The latest issue of Xbox World magazine is making the bold claim that Gears of War 4 and Forza 5 will be heading the Xbox 720's launch. What do you think?
If they are smart a new franchise at launch makes sense. It will introduce everyone to the game. Like Resistance for the PS3. Forza is more likely than Gears 4. Gears 4 is big if they waited a year after release there will be more people who will buy it to play it.
Agreed. A new and exciting IP backed up by a few of the existing exclusives, like Gears and Forza, would give them a wide audience.
Lolwut? PS3 didn't have a good launch at all. When consoles launch with established franchises, they are far more successful. Not saying that a new IP isn't welcome, just that it isn't enough to successfully launch a new console. SNES Launch - Super Mario N64 Launch - Super Mario PS2 Launch - Street Fighter, Tekken, DoA, Ridge Racer, Unreal Tournament Wii - The Legend of Zelda, Warioware Xbox 720 will definitely do well with Forza and Gears at launch!
@DarkCharizard_ You missed my point. I never commented on the PS3 launch. It was smart for Sony to release Resistance as a launch title.
@DarkCharizar; iamsuperman didn't comment on the quality of the PS3's launch, he merely stated that it was smart to have a brand new IP alongside the console when it came out. I believe a new IP or two backed by established series provides the best launch platform for a new generation console.
best time to launch new IP is at the start of the gen. Anyone who has been gaming for more then a few years knows this by know. Except for people like DarkChild, got their xbox last Christmas and now he knows everything. MS wouldn't gain anything by releasing these two IP at launch. Only same consumers. Save those for one year after the launch.
@iamnsuperman I disagree. Gear 4 and Foza 4 at launch would be a better idea simply because it would make it easier to make graphical comparison between both systems(lastGEN vs NextGen) from a recognizable franchise like Gears/Foza.This is, of course,is something that most core gamers love to do, make comparison,especially at the beginning. Now don't get me wrong, a new IP sounds like a great idea. But I'd rather wait until the game developers gain enough experience working with a new DEV before deciding to develop a new IP. remember...Good things come to those who wait.
This isn't so much a bad idea, except that they need more exclusives besides their Big 4 exclusives. The sad thing is that Xbox World Mag will be saying another 5-6 years from now that Gears 7 and Forza 8 will be Xbox 4 launch titles. lol They keep using the same games so much that they're at the milking point. Buy some new studios and make some exciting new IPs.
Who said they won't have new franchises also? And if they have they certainly won't leak them now.
yeah charizard thats why nintendo keeps milking mario cuz they got no talent ok? dont compare them with the likes of sony capicce?
This rather fits in with the timelines we've heard thrown around so far. Usually there are 2 years between Gears releases. A new Gears would be 2013, and that's often the year that crops up when discussing the next Xbox iteration. That would mean we'd probably see a reveal at next year's E3. That's pretty exciting when I start to think about it.
Forza is very possible but Gears 4 dont think so. I can see a new exclusive from EPIC being that Cliffy is good buddies with MS. Also if the 720 releases before the PS4 then you can expect allot of developers to make a game for the 720 at launch kinda of like the 360. Eventually some games will get ported over to the PS4 but if Sony is smart they wont let history repeat it self and make MS get a head start on next gen - that Next gen starts when we say so attitude does not work and MS has gathered a huge fanbase this gen. Edit: Also I can see MS taken advantage of the head start and work out some deal with Activision to release a new Call of Duty on the 720.
Epic has in the past mentioned how MS is a great partner and how Gears of War fits with the Xbox well. It wouldn't surprise me if it stayed exclusive next generation as well.
how can there be Gears of War 4 when Gears of War 3 ends the trilogy?...meaning no more counting.
Halo 4 :)
A new trilogy? Because a game is written as a trilogy doesn't mean the story can't continue. Remember the days when studios would only plan for one game and now they plan for three. In the future, maybe six?
Halo was never a planned trilogy nor was it announced as one. Just, "finish the fight."
I have to respectfully disagree. I was all set to wait for a game I actually liked when the Xbox 360 came out, but then when I saw Gears I knew I had to have one. A Gears Of War at launch for the next Xbox would definitely be a system seller, which is what launches are all about. As for new IP's, they don't usually push a new console, but they might look for something from Crytek or someone like that to do an exclusive out of the gate. Sort of how the Xbox 360 launched with games like Condemned, Call Of Duty 2 and Saints Row, which are still some of the better games this generation.
Forza is almost a given as it comes out roughly ever two years, so a 2013 720 release would fit perfect. Isn't gear 3 the end of the trilogy? Why would they make Gears 4? Maybe a spin-off but I don't think they'll be direct sequel. What I would love is a prequel game where you're on the front lines during E-Day.
Dont give M$ any good ideas. We dont want them to survive next gen.
i don't know. since epic already said: "Epic Games 'Would Love' to Put Gears of War on PS3" ( http://www.industrygamers.c... micro will need give a lot of money to epic if they want gears of war stay x360 exclusive. if they think they can sell 5 million on ps3 = 300 million dollars
Grasping at straws ^
Unless Sony changes the Dual Shock 3 then Gears will never be on the PS3. Cliffy B does not like the PS3 controller and that one reason why Gears is not on the PS3. “I would say in the foreseeable future there’s zero chances of Gears of War being on the PlayStation 3. Can we bury that now? Seriously. It’s like, we have a great deal with Microsoft, they’re a great partner…” “It’s one of those things that would be exciting news. Hopefully DualShock would get tweaked a little bit, but anyway, enough about that.” "micro will need give a lot of money to epic if they want gears of war stay x360 exclusive" Your talking about MS who gave R* a sh!tload of money for time DLC and gave Kinect a boat load of money for marketing.
You do realize that MS is the one that not only enabled Epic, but also help them to become the engine licensor they are today, right? That sort of partnership isn't something you just walk away from and that is why I would find it odd if Epic and MS parted ways. Maybe MS new engine developer is Crytek.
Bungie parted ways with MS and their relationship was even closer. It could happen man, money talks and after finishing off the trilogy, it seems Epic has paid MS back in full. They own the IP and it could very well end up on PS3.
I'm not saying relationships aren't broken, it happens. However, with Bungie there were many indications they wanted to do another project. It's common practice to spread some rumors to pressure the other party, but most recently Mike Capps (president of Epic games) expressed his satisfaction with MS as a partner.
KEY PART OF SAID ARTICLE . Even so, Capps acknowledges that Microsoft has been immensely helpful to Epic with the Gears franchise. "I don't regret what we're doing with Microsoft. They make it worthwhile all the time," he said.
LOL Micro$oft only has Gears and Forza exclusives maybe they should think of new IP's instead of milk milk milking it any further. Disagree? Come at me bruh!!! >;D
The only thing coming at you are moderators ready to mark you for trolling.
It makes since because of the current 2 year cycle on games. 2011-Gears 3, Forza-4 2012-Halo 4 2013-Gears 4, Forza-5 2014 Halo 5, They bring something big every year. With the exception of this being a Halo/Forza/Gears year because of the Halo remake. M$ usually runs a predicatable schedule with their games. I think that the surprising success of Kinect probably allowed them to push Gears back.
I highly doubt that Halo will change to a two year cycle. They've been working on Halo 4 for 2 years already. The only reason Halo 4 is coming out 2 years after Reach is because there was a year of overlap time while Bungie was working on Reach. I honestly don't think they will be able to do Halo justice with only a 2 year development time, and Frank O'Connor is definitely very passionate about making a Halo experience that the veterans will be able to love.
Halo 3- 2007 halo wars - 2009 Halo odst - 2009 halo reach - 2010 halo CE remake - 2011 Halo 4 - 2012 ^ this is a big problem imo. They need to separate Halo titles at minimum 2 years....They will quickly kill the franchise if this is what Microsoft has planned to do with the franchise...5 titles of the same franchise in a span of 4 years in unacceptable....Microsoft needs to expand and expand fast. By the looks of it Microsoft is going to make yearly releases of halo in one form another...
Err, excuse me, Halo 4 has been production since 2008. That'll be about 4 years of development once it launches next year.
That's what I was thinking: that this would mean the next Xbox is coming in 2013, since the Gears and Halo franchises do the whole "leapfrog strategy" thing. Seems plausible.
MS would absolutely need killer software like these two. Turn 10 and the newly realised IBL technique would be very likey uncanny photorealism and a very big deal for people that like to go wow. Similarly a Gears4 with the already shown new unreal tech for next gen would also truly wow people If MS knows what it's doing, and i believe they do, this is just the sort of thing to expect from them and partners
Gears of War 4 is not possible. The 3rd one is the end of the trilogy. I know we will see more Gears of War games (Cliff has basically confirmed this), just not centered around Marcus's story.
Halo,Gears,Forza,Fable-sure fire 3million+ sellers Alan Wake,Crackdown,Perfect Dark,Kameo--these are games that they can "reinvest in" for the next gen. I haven't played Kameo but alot of people like it. Kinect-wild card The screwed up part is the they have the money, talent, etc to make excellent games but they choose not to go that route. Last gen they did pretty well with creating new IP's although some did suck. Here are the franchises that M$ own. Why they don't do more with these I don't know! (disclaimer some of these games suck) Aegis Wing Age of Empires Azurik Banjo-Kazooie BattleTech Black & White Blinx Blood Wake Blue Dragon Brute Force Combat Flight Simulator WWII Europe Conker Crackdown Crimson Alliance Crimson Skies Fable Forza Motorsport Freelancer Fuzion Frenzy Game Chest Series Grabbed by the Ghoulies Halo Hexic ilomilo Infinite Undiscovery It's Mr. Pants Jawbreaker Jetpac Joy Ride Kakuto Chojin Kameo Killer Instinct Kinect branded games Kung Fu Chaos Lips Lost Odyssey Magatama Maximum Chase MechAssault MechCommander MechWarrior Microsoft Flight Simulator Microsoft Train Simulator Microsoft Space Simulator Midtown Madness Nightcaster Ninety-Nine Nights Monster Truck Madness MorphX Motocross Madness Ninety-Nine Nights [email protected] Ultimate Digital Experiment Perfect Dark Phantom Dust Project Gotham Racing Quantum Redshift Rallisport Challenge Rise of Nations Starlancer Sudeki Tao Feng: Fist of the Lotus The Movies Tork: Prehistoric Punk (character) Toy Soldiers Trenched Viva Piñata Voodoo Vince Whacked! Zoo Tycoon maybe they will surprise us. But new IP or not, exclusive or not the game still has to be good. Maybe financially its not worth the gamble developing a new IP. People seem to love their Halos, Gears, COD's just fine.
There is no way they would make Gears 4 a launch title. Microsoft makes a lot more money on game sales than they do on the console itself. They will wait for a larger population of next gen Xbox owners before they release a guaranteed seller like Gears. Forza 5 as a launch title is more likely I think. However I still think that it will come out 6 months to a year after the next gen Xbox for the same reason.
Ever heard of the term "system seller"?
How is it any less of a system seller if it comes out a year or 2 after the console launches? As long as people know it's coming, it will help sales of the console. MS used Gears 1 to sell the 360 before the 360 even launched, and Gears didn't come out until a year after the 360 launched. Their going to dangle Gears 4 in your face enough to keep your attention, and make you wait another year. They won't sell nearly as many copies of the game if nobody has a console to run it. This is also why truly good games don't come out for a while after consoles are released. If you have a game that is guaranteed to sell extremely well, why would you release it to an extremely small crowd?
They better be! Gears4 and Forza 5 are 2 years away which would put them at 2013. The 360 will be 8 years old by then, moving into its 9th...
Give us a new IP!!! For god sake!!
Again I say, just because they might release established IP's for a launch, doesn't mean there wouldn't be a new IP in the mix for the launch as well. I highly doubt we'd hear about a new IP for a new console at this point and time. That being said, I hear a lot of complaints for new IP's and then they sell like crap. I wish people actually bought the things they said they were going to.
This rumor is not that tough to come up with to be honest. I mean these companies are working on 2yr cycles...and we expect the next console in... 2yrs.
After Halo 4, what is there left on 360? So that means 720 will out holiday 2013 with Gears 4 and Forza 5 as its big launch titles.
*borat's voice* VERY GOOD ;)
Wow if that happens there will be no exclusives for like a year lol
What's with all of these crazy "rumors" from magazines suddenly?!
Killer instinct 3 and a new IP.
they will launch with a few new IPs just like they launched gears of war and crackdown early in the 360s life cycle which helped make the IP a success. I know it will have an exclusive from crytek because they have an inside track on the nextbox this time and not epic games, rumours are currently pointing to timesplitters 4 alan wake 2 might launch with the new console because remedy said a while ago that they had developed new facial animation technology for their next alan wake and yet we haven't heard anything else about it, therefore MS might be saving it for next gen.
I really hope that the next gen of consoles will still at least a year away. The economy still not good enough for a new gen right now.
Actually, if you really look into it, the economy has little to know effect on gaming. Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft have all seen increased sales/profits even during the bad economy. If anything, new consoles and games is great for the economy because it gets people spending money.
The economy for sure has an effect on me. ;P
I honestly hope not. Microsoft needs to give all of their milked franchises a rest….They really need to by first party studios and expand their game library….they can’t rely on just Gears, Halo, Forza, Fable and pretending CoD is exclusive…. If they do they will very quickly get slaughtered next gen…..it has worked this gen because they were able to exploit the casual crowd through CoD and Kinect….It would work when the casual crowd moves to the next “what’s in” thing…. Sucks too, I pay for xbl and it bums me out that all they care about is rehashing the same 4 games over and over and over….5 Halo games in a 3 year time span by the time halo 4 comes out. That’s the definition of milking…. They have a great library of ips too but choose to ignore them because they only want the high profit high selling titles… Why do you think we have not seen a Alan Wake 2? Why do you think we have not seen a new perfect dark? A new banjo? Reviving Conker and Killer Instinct? Reviving Crimson Skies? They just don’t care about making games….they just care about maximizing their profits, which I totally understand, they are a business. That business plan though will only work in the short term…people, especially gamers, wise up to that crap and will move on to the platform that will offer them the best gaming.
Gears 4 = Pendulum Wars? Seems to be a good direction to take it in.
I was thinking E-Day but pendulum could be cool
Forza 5 seems way more likely than GeoW 4
By "gears of War 4", I don't think they necessarily mean a direct sequel, just another game in the Gears franchise.
2012: Halo 4 (get 10 million+ people start a new trilogy) 2013: Xbox 720 with Fable IV, Forza 5, CoD will do just fine 2014: Gears of War 4 2015: Halo 5 let 10million+ people keep on playing the trilogy. Mix 1-2 new IPs in it and you have some serious system sellers.
Gears - Forza - Fable - Halo *rinse repeat* They need other good games not just the same old 4
It would be smart if they were. Finish the games they're working on now then start working on 720 sequels so they would have some good launch titles.
I'd like to see the successor to dark souls, whatever that may be.
I demand a Ms. Pacman reboot at launch. The hardcorest of harcore games. Also, I would not be opposed to naming the next Xbox "Ms. Xbox" with a picture of Ms. Pacman devouring Mario on the system. Legs first, that way he feels it.
Just give me my Xbox 72o! I will sort out the games later! Like every console ever launched, the rumors are the same about what games are coming and what new tech will debut. I love the thin line between speculation and conformation. Once things start getting confirmed it makes the built up anticipation worth it.
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