VelocityGamer writes: The spiritual successor to the masochistic Demon's Souls is coming to an Xbox near you, but is that market ready for the challenge?
Why wouldn't it?
You know why.
Here's some words for thought. I don't give a shit because the game will kick so much ass whether it sells 5 million copies, or 10 copies. DARK SOULS GOTY 2011!!!
How about instead of arguing which version will be better, we just tell everyone (since pretty much everyone can buy it now) to buy it and support such a fantastic franchise, so we can have more?
We get it that you people don't care about whether the game sold 10 million copies or -1 copy(if that's possible).But the thing is if you would realize that the company that has made your beloved game NEEDS to sell in order to keep making those great games,continuing support and expanding the series;then you would care about them selling or not.Sure we're gamers and not business associates,but knowing that the support is there for the company which you love would make you more comfortable about their future and brings some kind of satisfaction knowing that that particular company is doing well. The same goes for publishers.Eventhough people on this site take it a step too far with sale arguments,i myself DO care about whether Sony,Microsoft or Nintendo are doing good so that i'd know if they would keep delivering what they've been delivering all along.
Come on now @ captain. I'm sure biggc meant he was gonna be 1 of the 10 that got it specially if he pushing 4 gameof the year.lol. but I do hear u in us wanting 2 see our devs get the sales they deserve but I think he's in hype mode an just real happy bout his game comin out..an would recommend it so it gets the 5mil shoot he sold me on it.lol even tho I wanted it be4 now I really do cuz of him.lol
It's a pretty niche title and they do not tend to sell well on the Xbox 360. It's not to discriminate against anyone it's just how it usually is. PS3 owners seem to be more open to that, especially when it comes to JRPGs while Western/action games tend to do better on 360. I think given Demon Soul's success and the hype that Dark Souls has been getting, it should do fairly well on the 360 though I think it will sell better on the PS3 mainly because it already has a fanbase established on it. But we'll have to see.
It's not like the first game was a sales juggernaut on the PS3. It barely crept passed 1 million in sales. On either console, it's a niche title but it will find a fanbase on the XBox 360.
1.25 million wow, that is one sad fan base in two years time. no wonder it went multiplatform, it should do well on 360.
Actually I'm a 360 fan and a PS3 fan as well. I'm not like that at all, in fact demons souls and now dark souls and gears3 are my most anticipated of the year
'I'm sure some 360 fans will buy it, but let's face it. 360 fans just don't embrace these types of games. It'll for sure do better on the PS3. If you have a shooter, even a mediocre one, you know it'll sell well on the 360' Don't let the known trolls like Dark ride fool you. This silly console war has still got the usual suspects trying to pretend that PS3 gamers are on another planet from 360 gamers. But we ALL know PEOPLE lie, the numbers don't. Which is why Call of duty is the # 1, # 2 and #5 selling PS3 games in history. Again 3 of the top 5 games on the PS3 are shooters. Almost 11 million PS3 gamers bought Black ops on the PS3 alone. So what was that about shooters Darkride? I say it all the time..I've been a From Software fan since King's Field and I bought Demon's Souls day one. In fact, if it wasn't for my preorder I would have never got the game when it was released. It essentially sold out from pre-orders because they didn't misread the anticipation for the title. I've died so much in Demons souls I thought I was playing Too Human. There is absolutely no way I'm not going to earn achievements in Dark Souls for getting my @ss kicked this time around. As for it's success, well Rage jumped in on that date and will honestly grab ALOT of the spotlight away from Dark Souls. The hardcore will bite, but it won't do mainstream numbers, but here's to hoping that the game doubles what Demons Souls did. Who cares what console you buy this gem..just BUY it Evil
it supposed to be harder than DS and appears to be serious even borderline solemn, so I think it's more oriented to the PS3 demographic and by that I mean: mostly guys on their 20s that started playing games when there wasn't any handholding like in this generation or the previous one I think that even if Demon's Souls didn't exist Dark Souls would do better on the PS3, just like Alan Wake would have done better on the PS3
"...but is that market ready for the challenge?" Basically that is a hype line to bait people. i.e. our game is so good that you can't handle it.
On another note. What is up with people and their writing...? Stop making comments and then supporting comments with non-contextual examples. In this statement below they talk how JRPG market sub genre not doing well with Xbox owners and then give an example of a non-JRPG game not doing well. Why? "Despite a tremendous money-backed strategy by MS to capture the JRPG market the sub genre never did do well with Xbox owners. Remedy's story driven horror shooter Alan Wake performed well below what it deserved."
Believe it or not, there are people who have a 360 who dont just like shooters.
nor in-game chat maybe a factor... that and being much more difficult than the normal mainstream game may count as well...
"that and being much more difficult than the normal mainstream game may count as well..." Implying that most ps3 gamers are not "average mainstream" kind of gamers?
Xbox are flying off the shelves because of Kinect you know... And then add the fact that games like SFIV, Bayonetta, FFXIII and anything that is not a COD clone it always sells better on the PS3. edit: Oh and how can I forget, Heavy Rain sold more than Alan Wake even though it was an extremely niche game. And the same with LA Noire... But watch Battlefield 3 sell more on the Xbox; Dance Central and FPS are the games of the average mainstream.
Implying that one game defines the entire audience of one console?
cause I'd rather "chat" with friends than game?/s
It won't. As much as people may call me a troll or hate to admit it, niche games don't sell well at all on the 360. That's why most of them are either on handhelds or on the PS3.
Basically every good western style rpg game on the xbox 360 sold very well. Alan wake sold poorly due to being released neck to neck with red dead redemption!
Dark Souls is a niche game. Demon's Souls was developed for a very small niche audience, but sold very well in the end. I'm sure in the end, most of Dark Souls sales will be from the PS3. If I had to guess, I would say over 70% of the sales. There are more 360 users, but most don't care for a niche game like Dark Souls. Which is a shame.
Dark souls is a AAA game whether you want it to be or not.
I say we just let the sales numbers do the talking, Kamikaze, because I'm willing to bet that, due to the huge number of 360s out there, there will be more sales for the 360 version. A much larger percentage of PS3 owners are going to buy it, sure, but I think you don't give "hardcore" gamers on the 360 nearly enough credit. I own a copy of Demon's Souls and I don't even have a PS3, and essentially every friend of mine that has seen Demon's Souls has said that they are definitely getting Dark Souls since it will be on the 360.
Can Dark Souls Succeed On Xbox 360? I hope it succeeds on both PS3 and 360. IMHO (No fanboy) I believe it will sell a lot more on PS3. Mainly because it already has a fanbase on PS3 (Demons Soul's) Like Rinkuchal said not having in-game chat will probably hurt its sells on 360.
what if i chose to play this on my 360, then i cant even join a party chat???? is this true? why would they deactivate that?
The dev does not want this to be an easy game. They do not want you to be able to get help from other people. In DS, you could not invite friends, you had to accept whomever came in your game. They might help you, they might kill you, you never know. That is the whole point to this series. Trust no one and constantly second guessing your actions.
If you played Demon's Souls. The developer don't want any type of chatting going on in Demon's Souls. That ruins the experience and the type of game the developer is trying to portray. If they enabled chatting. That will defeat the purpose of the hints and bloodstains feature and should just remove them. The developers want everyone to be anonymous(not those idiotic hackers). You will rely solely on your skills, quick thinking and instincts.
this game will do well on the 360. Most games do.
Well I guess we'll see, won't we? That said, the fanbase for the game is definitely on the PS3 considering they've already gone through Demon's Souls. It might be too much for Xbox fans to deal with. I'm betting the mixed reviews on difficulty would have some rather gun-shy.
Of course it will. And given the install base, it should sell on par with ps3 version. The best incentive for me? Achievements and live. The game will do well on both consoles. Especially since Demon Souls put From Software on the map, in the US that is.
King's Field & Armored Core did that for From Software long before Demon's Souls was a thought.
Does it have a gun and aim assist? Then no.
That argument is repetitive, and proven false time and time again. Miss the open zone.
A list of 360 all time best sellers: Call of Duty: Black Ops Kinect Adventures Halo 3 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Gears of War Gears of War 2 Grand Theft Auto IV Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Halo: Reach Call of Duty: World at War Halo ODST You telling me 360 crowd wants a difficult rpg? sure thing.
Jack, 5 of those shooters are 360-exclusive, and this list is not at all indicative of whether or not shooters are the ONLY games that sell well on the 360. Real gamers (that is, if we exclude the 12-year old CoD players) on the 360 want a good RPG. Look at Oblivion and Fallout, which sold very well on the 360. Look at Borderlands, even if it was a pseudo-RPG.
You're all missing the point of the list: the only game on the list that DOESN'T involve shooting is Kinect Adventures (which is possibly only that high because one gets sold with every Kinect). And I guess you could kinda say GTAIV. While other games MAY sell well, they didn't crack the top ten.
It damn sure better, seeing that Demons Souls was great from the beginning to the very end..... "So the world might be mended".......
Lol, I still hear her voice in my head and I quit playing months ago. Bubbles for now getting it stuck in my head this fine weekend.
Your welcome lol
I think it will do alright, like people have been saying, but it will definitely sell better on the PS3. It's a pity MS has such a closed network, otherwise we could have cross platform multiplayer matches, and I could invade a random 360 player and hunt him down. That would be most satisfying. *licks lips*
It will sell. I bet there are lots of 360 owners such of myself wishing Demons came to 360 as well.
I hope it gets good sales. From Software is great devs.
I'm thinking it'll do better on the PS3. I'm looking at our preorders and right now it's almost 3-4:1 PS3 vs. 360 at my store at least. Looking at Elder scrolls 360 has more preorders for 360 than PC/PS3 combined. So if trends follow then Elder Scrolls on 360 will be massive and Dark Souls will do better on PS3, because the built in audiences will definitely just follow what they bought before. I could be wrong, but, based on preorders that's what'd I'll say will end up happening.
I think it will do well on both platforms. It will sell better on the Ps3 however because it already has an established fanbase.
although im getting the ps3 version the game will selll very well on the 360. Don't be surprise if it outsells the ps3 version.
I hope for From's sake it does do well on the 360, I dont think the primary 360 player is geared towards a game of this type but stranger things have happened. I see the game being a cult classic just like Demon's Souls and I think once some 360 people realized the depth and the difficulty it will get shelved by most of them.
I hope it sells decently well on the Xbox. This would encourage more developers to take some risks with games...especially with difficulty (in the most brilliantly balanced game I have ever played...ie Demon's SOuls). This is a type of game that goes beyond fanboy wars...This is something special. Demon's Souls came out of nowhere for me (took a risk bought the Deluxe Edition on the advice of the importers), and Ill be dammed. It became my favorite game of the last decade (or pretty damn well close). I thought one thing...ONE...Man, the only thing that would make this better would be a little more open world gameplay. And then, it came...Dark Souls. Im ready...
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