360 Magazine: The biggest names from across the industry step up to defend a motion-controlled future…
Im sure its a good piece of tech. But besides dance central, I havent seen any other games to justify the 150 dollars.
Kinect Sports, Fruit Ninja and Child of Eden are all well received games. Upcoming Forza 4, ME3, Ghost Recon, Ryse, Steel Battalion and Fable: The Journey all look promising. The fact, is with every console release there are hardly any games out for it the first year. Why would you expect anything different for Kinect? Especially, when they already released a number of solid and well received games.
Defend it with games already , not empty speeches
Ironic that the "biggest names across the industry" defending it are the ones making games that incorporate it. I'm done criticizing Kinect tbh, I owned it, I sold it and chances are, I don't see any real reason to buy it again. Still if developers feel the need to constantly defend it, then it's Microsoft's fault for the direction they are taking it. Xbox is a console for the fps junkies.. not catering for them when initially unveiling Kinect I still think will cost them and for many of us former fanboys, it's left a bitter taste in our mouths.
I think Kinect is a great piece of technology but some of us still like traditional controllers.
And with good reason.. trying to navigate menus using just kinect is sloppy and annoying.
I don't find it sloppy, but I just use the voice integration: "Xbox Play"!
I meant ingame. The game I got it for was ufc trainer and it was awful to navigate with a controller
I think since this is really the first of it's kind on the market, there will be plenty of those to go around until a universal language is figured out. Remember in the old days, when you had obscure missions that didn't tell you what to do? This generation has moved leaps and bound over previous when it comes to usability. That said, voice control in the game menus should be mandatory.
show us the games...
2 Microsoft owned devs and Bioware saying nothing in defense of Kinect. Profound.
I can see why some people think kinect is not worth getting because all the core games that are out for the 360 so far this year have not used Kinect. But this is starting to change and ME3 Forza 4 will now use Kinect and im sure more games will follow. EA have said Fifa NHL and some other games will use Kinect next season and I see the next COD game after MW3 using kinect in some way as MS seem to get extra work done on there games over the PS3 version. But 10 million devices is not to be shot down everyone on here anyway was saying Kinect was going to be the biggest flop ever and it has been far from that. Yes there were not core game out for Kinect last year but MS knew that the biggest fault with the 360 was it was know as the core console and it needed to be a all round console if it was going to keep ahead of the PS3 and try and gain some ground on the wii and with games like Dance Central Kinect Sports, Joy Ride, Your Shape it has done this. MS have said from the start that the first 12 to 18 months we will start to see changes in what kinect dose and how it is added into games and the xbox its self. The new dash will show alot more developers what it can do and will also help push Kinect too as from what we have seen all the dash can now be controlded by Kinect so it will mean DVD's or streeming media can now be voice controled rather than going into the Kinect screen and only seeing half the dash and options. I still dont think Kinect will replace the controller but I dont think MS have planed to do this anyway but what it will do is add tracing for some games like FPS RPG but also add voice control on the fly too. Like in Fifa saying change tactics too 442 on the fly rather than having to pause the game and then change them or line change in NHL rather then pressing a button. Kinect can add something to each gore of games but it is up to the developers to start using the tech and find the best way to add it into there games. Look at Forza 4 for exmaple it has made the Graphics 100 x better than on forza 3 but also adds head tracking and voice control. I know kinect is not for every one that is why we have choice in life and that is what makes us different for animals but people need to stop looking at kinect as replacing the controller and start seeing it with a controller and realize it is powered by software not hardware so MS can keep improving it and also give the developers tools to add Kinect into there games for voice and tracking where no other console offers this.
I dont see any hope for core gamers if all they can come up with is voice commands for $150. Plus didnt micro say it was "replacing" the controller and they would never intergrate the 2? Correct me if I'm wrong I really remember reading that.
No you have got mixed up of the logo you are the controller for it release but they have talked about controller + Kinect since the start. As I said voice commands is just one thing Kinect can offer games. I agree £120 is alot to just use with voice commands in a few games but as more and more games come along and more developers start using Kinect they will find different ways to add it into there games. You need to rememberer kinect is a new device and it will take a few years for devlopers to find ways adding kinect to there games just like it takes developers a few years to get the best from new consoles. But this is also the same for the PS Move the 3DS and it will also be the same for the PSV when it is released.
Exactly. What happened to you are the controller? Now they are creating things like guns and steering wheels and trying to integrate it with the 360 controller. Not to mention that when you look at it Kinect has more average scoring games then high scoring ones. Their most recent attempt RON has been getting scores like 4 and 5 all across the board and people still try to defend it. If any normal non Kinect game had gotten these types of scores it would be torn in two by the gaming world e.g. Bodycount. Now I am sure everyone will jump on me and tell me I 'hate' Kinect. But I am just giving it the scrutiny all systems get when they are launched. It selling 10 million units doesn't automatically make it a great device. Failed systems have sold 30 million units and still died out. So far Kinect hasn't proven that it can be used for more complex games as of yet. To the rest of the gaming world it has long way to go to prove it isn't going down the same path the Eyetoy is
Developers Step Up and Defend Kinect .. Lets see these statements of defense : “One of my favourite things about Kinect,” explains Lionhead legend and Fable: The Journey developer, Peter Molyneux, “is that it’s not as precise as a controller, but that makes sense. " -- So, using Kinect is a sloppy experience. Check. Studio head Dan Greenawalt is adamant that Kinect is a genre, and that genre-specific games are still some years away. -- So, Kinect games are coming soon, really, just a few more years, we promise. Check. BioWare, however, is exploring through voice communication how Kinect can add another layer of investment for gamers. -- So, Kinect has a microphone. Check. Mass Effect 3 is using Kinect to enhance its gameplay by pulling players deeper into its world. How successful it is will depend on BioWare’s bravery. As it stands, Kinect’s use is superficial during the series’ staple conversations and untested during the new combat. -- So, Kinect has a microphone, again. Check. So, that's the whole defense lineup for Kinect? LOL, FAIL
I remember when the wii came out and started with the party games then gradually started moveing into more hardcore titles. The difference with kinect is that its a whole new interface that they have to learn and master as they try to go aginst the expections of the people buying the games. The biggest argument that i bring up with commenters is that its going to take time for them to master what can be done with kinect and we have already seen the improvments that can be done with finger recognition.Also why is it that when theres a move article the kinect one is always populated with more ps3 fanboys on kinect? I mean theres even more ps3 fanboys on their own articles. Its like they have to attack the progress of kinect everytime someone is defending it or something positive happends with it. Even if theres an awsome mod to the codeing that gives it 1:1 recognition and implements a nice looking gameplay mechanic its like the pop out from under the bridge of gameing evolution and just start spamming hatered for the device.
The best advocates of Kinect I've heard so far were Tatsuya Kitabayashi and Kenji Kataoka, speaking about Steel Battalion at Gamescom. They couldn't hide their excitement to be working with it in that interview, even acting out some of what you can do.. Japan is stepping up in defence of Kinect and that's about all that matters.
So Japan is defending Kinect and not buying the 360. Makes total sense.
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