Everything about the service explained in an easy to understand list.
Well...doesn't seem too bad now that it's laid out like that.
Kinda what I was thinking. But the monthly "DLC" seems sketchy. How often are those going to be maps instead of gametypes? Oh, and we get to keep the DLC after our membership expires? I would have never thought Activision would lets us do that.
Well it makes sense - your technically pre-ordering DLC (albeit at a slightly cheaper price as an incentive to use the service) so that you can access it at a later date. This is better for Activision as they can just pocket your money straight away rather than having to wait around and heavily market each DLC as and when the developer has finished each one. Also would you really see people choosing to use Elite to get DLC slightly cheaper over the conventional method if you couldn't permanently keep them? People would just be up in arms about this if it wasn't the case. Besides, you can only buy a yearly subscription with Elite anyway by the sounds of it so your tied in for the entire year - so it's not like you can exploit the system by buying a months subscription and reaping a years worth of DLC. They're trying to make it seem larger by saying you'll receive "20 pieces" of MW3 DLC. This is pretty much what they're doing already but they'll just spread out the 5 maps you get with each DLC pack (think its usually 4 per game right?) into monthly installments. In the end your not really any better off by using Elite - by paying for a subscription you're just promoting a new way in which publishers can get to our wallets through stripping content from the main game. They try and justify it by saying that people will be able to compete for prizes but lets be honest; the vast majority of people that subscribe to Elite won't even win a single thing so it's win-win for Activision. It will be interesting to see what sort of prizes will be on offer to win and how many... considering the amount of money we all know Activision is going to make from this it would be great for them to actually invest the money back into the community that got them where they are today - still cannot believe that they don't provide dedicated servers across the board for all platforms... what a joke. Also I don't see why anyone would want to use the tutorial services and in-depth gameplay analysis tools that Elite looks to be providing. Can people not see that by using these tools you'll be taking the fun out of the game? Why would anyone want to spend hours reading through weapon descriptions, heat maps, weapon ballistics? I just don't get it... where's the fun in that? The best part about playing games is figuring things out for yourself! Seeing yourself slowly improve through trial and error, NOT because some death chart showed you died from an exploding dog, next to a dustbin, 23.5% of the time you played Dome. It's laughable how they try to get people to take COD more seriously by providing these services, when they should look at the content they're putting in the game in the first place. I've gone on for much longer than I thought with this... oh well, peace out.
I think they are specifying "you get to keep the DLC even if your membership expires," because if they didn't, people would ask "do I get to keep the DLC if my membership expires?" Don't forget, Playstation Plus members are given "free" games each month that they lose access to if they let their membership to Plus expire.
Most people don't need more than a year to play a game. Besides there are plenty of other advantages. Besides, there are more discounts on content and games with Plus which you get to keep, even if it only cost you a penny. ___ Now back to Call of Duty. Doesn't COD DLC usually amount to $50 during the lifespan of the game anyway? That's the same price as COD Elite. So how are these "free maps-packs/DLC"? [Edit] Ok maybe I was a bit harsh. There are plenty of mini features and whatnot involved in this too. I can see that this is for people that really take their online military FPS multiplayer games quite seriously. Definitely not for me. I won't be coming back now, lol.
After all the hub-bub, it turns out the service is essentially free with a discounted purchase of all the DLCs. Activision is definitely greedy, but I don't see them using underhanded tactics like EA towards their customers (like have nasty terms of service, prevent you from playing your games, or even deleting your account).
Plus if you pre order the dlc like this than you friends who didnt will be more likely to buy the dlc so they can play with you ;)
Yeah, I'm grabbing the Hardened Edition so hopefully the 1-year trial will prove it's worth it.
I think I might be grabbing the Hardened edition as well. Does it come with the premium Elite service, or the free one?
you save 10 bucks buying harden edition versus paying the sub separately it comes with one year of elite service an various minor stuff
You get CoD: Elite membership for a year and founder status with the Hardened Edition. I might grab that myself... here's hoping for a sale!
that's what she said *giggles*
Well I thought DLC was already pretty awesome. Paying $15 for a new map and some old ones is a great deal. But now to think that for a "low" monthly fee I can get all those map packs for free! It's an amazing idea! Obviously we won't get to keep the stuff after our membership expires, but who cares? I mean by then the new CoD will come out, and then I can subscibe to that games monthly fee, and get maps for free again! I hope most of the map packs they release feature CoD:MW3 maps! That would be awesome. Already a day 1 buy for me, an extra $200 a year is nothing for the best game franchise out there!
I'm right there with you ShamefulDispray! WOW, to think that someone loves the COD franchise as much as me is just plain awesome!!! Want to join my clan? We're called "The S4rc45tic D0uc6e's," you'd fit right in! ;) In all seriousness, the ELITE service is obviously not for you. I on the other hand am excited by the monthly DLC and other benefits the service provides for a series that I really enjoy playing. peace
***Obviously we won't get to keep the stuff after our membership expires, but who cares?*** You do get to keep all the DLC after you subscription expires. Perhaps research things before you condemn it?
You mean, I not only will receive maps the same time as 360 players since the map packs are the only thing that are timed exclusive, but I can stop paying for CoD Elite at any time and keep the maps?! Holy shit! Only now do I see the errors in my judgement. Listen up world! CoD Elite no longer sucks ass. In fact it's the best idea ever imagined for any CoD player who was pissed off by timed delays. Activision once did something right. And they're charging $2.50 per map on Elite, which is actually a steal, since it's $3 per map in the physical DLC.
Maybe I missed something here, but I don't recall them saying there wont be any more timed delays. Maybe I'll give it another read, but I'm pretty sure MS has given Activision a nice big bag of cash and a signed contract for timed delays. Who know's?... I could be wrong.
No timed delays on content from CoD Elite. Timed delay on DLC Map Packs--this is Activision's sneaky little way of getting the PS3 and PC players back into CoD, since they already screwed themselves once and don't want to do it again. Every month they'll be releasing new maps and modes for (ten, twelve?) months, for all CoD Elite players, so that the experience never gets old. Unless they release maps right at launch--which I don't see happening, since it would cause a lot of hate, being that DLC right at launch is total bullshit--everyone will receive the same amount of maps and modes at the same time. And, for a pay service, they wouldn't not release maps a month after release, since people expect content for their payment. There is no devised "exclusivity" rights for a pay service like Elite, because it would have to be too complex. They're running into a third party service issue there--and Microsoft tends to leave those alone. They still have their timed exclusivity deal, and I'm sure it makes them think they're happy.
I guess they found their loop hole...
Question: Is DLC still a timed exclusive on the 360? If so, does this affect anyone's decision to go premium on the PS3? From a psychological stand point, people tend to want to see more out of their money spent up front sooner rather than later and I wonder if having to wait a month or more longer might make them feel adverse towards subscribing to a similar plan in the future. Just look at how MMOs are turning out more and more today, with F2P methods rather than the traditional monthly subs because people A) don't play as much as others and feel they don't get the same value out of it and B) have varying play times from month to month and want the cost to match their time played and not a base amount of expected value that may not be matched each month. Turning to this sort of subscription service with individual games could be a hit or miss, but it all depends on the perceived value by the community, which the differences between consoles will not help to improve, IMHO. Can't wait to see the statistics of the program and community response once it is live.
IF the maps are released simultaneously, I'd pick this up for my PS3 (the Hardened Edition - I have a $100 gift card balance from Amazon to use up...) but if there is still a timed delay in map DLC even with Elite, it's an easy decision on which console to get this on.
Lol, you people are easily brainwashed in accepting being ripped off.
Activision Doesn't Understand Proper Nouns When Making Charts Apparently.
So you are going to police them but you are going to capitalize every first letter in your post?
That's the joke, yes.
SuperStrokey - You Obviously Didn't Look At The Charts, Or You Don't Understand What A Proper Noun Is, Or What To Do With It Grammatically.
LMFAO charging just to have a golden clan tag name?? Like i said only idiots will pay for this crap. It's a sad day when you know people will actually pay for this crap SMH.
You mean like hats in TF2? Not so stupid when it's not CoD, right?
Hats are Hats. Clothes in Home are Clothes in Home. Golden Clan Tags are not a purchase item, they are thrown into a list of items designed to make you think this monthly fee is a "bargain."
the hats you can make a market for buying an selling various things with steam beta trading the COD maps are just that maps nothing more
yeah but i can sell my TF2 hats and make some real cash! You can not do that in COD so STFU!
@ATi_Elite and @jimmywolf So tell me, you're selling or trading the hats to someone, correct? Doesn't that mean someone else on the recieving end is essentially buying those hats? The ability to trade doesn't deter from the fact that people buy useless things in game. So if you were intelligent you would realize that it doesn't only occur in CoD.
I guess you missed the part about all the DLC being included.
and we all know dlc is going to 90% game modes / challenges 10% maps. Still a scam.
@DirtyLary Uh, yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about it. Activision is also selling all the maps like they normally do. Activision isn't going to stop making maps in favor of modes, then sell them in $15 packs. Nobody is going to spend that kind of money on new game modes. Use some common sense.
It's either your brain is half-developed or you didn't have a happy childhood you are filled with senseless hate that made you what you are today, a dysfunction in the society.
sounds like the same stuff wow players pay for and eat up
hey when i paid $25 for that mount it was worth it .... maybe
All you did was pick the smallest thing they are including under the Elite service and ignored everything else.
i wonder if they have to tell themselves that this is a good idea in order for them to make themselves feel better, prolly just how they tell themselves that call of duty is still a relevant game even though it still looks like its from 2007 and will have twice the bugs as the last game
Why start this bullshit you troll?
how am i troll when the game is terrible, that sir is a fact sorry your to close minded to understand that
@Cpt_kitten your a troll because you are bashing the game and saying something is terrible is all your opinion and honestly no one cares about your opinion when there opinion is a conflicting one.
Opinion is not fact. Good day sir. and these Battlefield trolls already claimed one of my bubbles.. You are sad sad idividuals.
How can cod be not relevant when black ops and mw2 are the 2 best selling games of all time on 360 and ps3?
I'm not the biggest Call Of Duty fan but I don't see why you think there bad games? to be honest Call Of Duty games are actaully very fun. Sure they look dated but the core gameplay is a lot of fun espically online with friends. I'm gonna be picking up the hardened anyway as i'm interested in Elite.
lol ill just stick with free elite kthxbai!
God, where is gaming headed to? Or where did it go wrong? This crap is an insult to gamers and if any gamer has just a bit of intelligence and self-respect than they won't get it. COD ISN'T THAT GOOD. Gamers should show Activision that they can't just re-release the same game with different maps and "different" story mode each year and charge $65 for it. I have faith in the intelligence of gamers and hope that people are smart enough to not get this and not pick up MW3 to show Activision that we had enough. Bring some innovation into the games or don't make games. COD was cool in 2006, but it's 2011. 2006 gameplay got old and boring already. Time to innovate!!!
Hating on COD was cool in 2009 but now it's just tiring...We need to show haters that they just can't retype the same things with different names each year and get away with it. I have faith in the haters that they will stop....because quite frankly, WE GET IT...you don't like COD.
You are wrong on so many levels.......I'm not even going to explain it to you. I let you figure it out.
When are you going to post your "leave cod alone" video on youtube?
Being a COD fanboy was cool in 2007 when COD 4 came out but now it's just blind fanaticism. We need to show the COD lovers that they can't keep defending COD and its tired graphics and gameplay and get away with it. I don't have any faith in the fanboys getting it and waking up...because quite frankly, WE GET IT.. you can't stop defending COD.
Ironic you think I'm a COD fanboy because I"m anything but. I enjoy the game for what it is. An arcade experience that is fast twitch play with quick in and out gameplay for when I don't have a ton of time. I'll play BF3 when I want a more prolonged experience and I'll play Gears 3 for a change of pace. I want COD to change as much as anyone else but I don't go into COD articles and keep bringing it up when in all honesty, if you don't like the game....why the heck are you in a post about it? That's like walking into McDonalds and going to place your order and say I hate the Big Mac and walking out....does that make much sense?
Most of the "haters" are just jaded from buying pretty much the same thing for 4 years now. If nothing is said the series will never evolve. Its like if McDonalds only served the Big Mac, you may have a valid complaint...
The article is about CoD Elite, what does your rant have to do with anything in the article?
actually they dont charge $65 for the game. they charge $60 and that $5 is actually taxes pay to your wonderful country so buy is and support your country.
@ares84 And just how should CoD "innovate"? I swear some people just regurgitate what they saw other hater posters put on the board. CoD is a proven and effective game that has sold and made more $$$ than what we will see in our lifetime. they have broken records and is compared to some hollywood summer blockbusters. Millions and millions of people around the world are enjoying the game and every company is trying to imitate and cash in on the craze. And you seriously come on here and say "innovate"? I love posters who are also back seat developers.
Its ok I love you hater. I know your bitter to the bone with a massive butthurt for CoD but I love you and hope that you can get over it as soon as possible because CoD is here to STAY. Bye Hater.
I guess it's worth it in the context that you'll save money on DLC so if you're gonna buy all of them you might aswell get Elite so you can buy BF3 for the money.
Looks good to me hardened edition already paid for
This is going to be great. Well worth the price.
"20 pieces of new MW3 DLC" fuck
Relax! The 20pc meal comes wit 2 free sides!
Biscuits & Gravy and Mac & Cheese please
So your clan can level faster if you pay the $49.99? CoD is like a F2P MMO now, low quality game designed to squeeze out as much money by selling advantages.
Basically this is what your getting: Map Packs Game modes Clan support Stat tracking Videos Anybody else notice that it would list the same thing 2 or 3 times like if it was something else.
I can see someone getting elite if all they play is MW3. Edit: Now that I think about it it's sad that a $50 Elite subscription seems like a good deal if you're planning on buying all of the DLC. I remember when DLC wasn't so overpriced.
So, pretty much stuff that you can already do for free Activision is starting to charge you. (Minus the map packs.) -Game Modes (It should come on the disc already not separate as DLC.) -Clan Support (All people usually do is change their clan tag and join games. Is it even necessary to find other clans to battle you then just going on Call of Duty forums or on Youtube and asking for challengers?) -Stat Tracking (You can look at all of that on your gamer profile in the game and your stats are located on the leader boards.) -Videos (Youtube videos. Hello that's all you need. Do you really need a special Activision exclusive site to watch all of your game play videos? Really?) After owning and playing all of the Call of Duty games this Elite Package is a complete rip off and a disservice to all of the fans that support this franchise even those who go as far back as PC. ---> PC/PS3 (Free Online Services) = Paying $50/year to play one online game franchise? ---> Xbox 360 [XBL ($60/year) + $50/year (Elite Package) = $110/year to play Call of Duty.] What's even more sad is that idiots will pay for this rip off service and this rehashed yearly game franchise again and again every single year with every new COD game. I swear COD gamers have the worst community of any online game I've ever seen, witnessed and played. :(
hey guess what? the stat tracking is between ALL CoD games from black ops on. So I would know my overall wins and kills betweenn the games. I think thats pretty cool.