There Should Be a Price Drop Coming For Microsoft Shortly
Jeff from Volatile Mode explains the urgency Microsoft should take in responding to the recent price cut by Sony. If not, Microsoft threatens the bleak lead they hold over their biggest competitor.
(Industry, Microsoft, PS3, Sony, Xbox 360)
A price cut would only help extend the lead that MS has now. Their sale figures have been impressive for a long time now.
If Sony wants to keep up, they should do another price cut. Hmmm, maybe even go the way of HP and do a fire sale just like the Touchapd.
Speaking of the HP TouchPad, if you missed out on the killer deal, just wait a few weeks. HP is producing another million of them right now. All will be sold for $99!
Would it be the worst thing in the world if the PS3 outsold the 360? I mean, it wouldn't change anything and both Sony and MS are doing great now. There really is no need for a 360 price drop
The gains that MS is making month after month is enough to make Sony nervous. Think about it man. Stop begin a fan boy for just a moment. I'm not knocking the PS3.
By the way, MS really cares about it's gamers. Sure the bottom line is business but Sony is the same way. It only makes sense.
Also, if Sony out sold the 360 I would congratulate them. I love Sony and own many of their products including the PS3, PSP, TV, etc
if a price drop is coming.... it will be on the stand alone kinect unit. I can see them selling for $99. If MS wants to sell kinects to the millions who have the older 360 then that is what needs to be done.
They wont cut the price on the retail 360 but instead add more freebie games to it. Or create various different game bundles.
Sony actually did with the new KB "Long Live Play" commercial. Not exactly the focused commercial that one would expect like they did when the Slim came out.
Of course there is also the matter of the volume of ads Sony is putting out there because they've already said before they can't out-advertise MS and they probably can't do so either.
As for the 360 price cut. I still think its too early especially if the PS3 price cut doesn't affect the sales of the 360. I see no reason for MS to cut into their profit.
Drastic times calls for drastic measures but this ain't that time not for the 360 anyways.
a £50 price cut off xbl live would see me purchase an xbox otherwise they can drop the console price all they want im not stupid enough to pay back what was knocked off through xbl over the years
that argument is so tired... is it really such a big deal that it costs $5 a month for live. Break it down even further and it comes out to $.16438356164... per day over the course of a year.
That is cheaper than feeding those starving kids in other countries. Not to mention you get more satisfaction from live than you do wondering if they really are feeding those starving kids in other countries.
Since it isnt a big deal. Can someone tell MS to just let me play online for free?
I accept ur arguement xboxlive is better than psn. Just like how the ps3 is better than the xbox360. Or the pc being better than the ps3.
But I simply cannot afford to pay for that 0.05618 or whatever cents per minute or 60 buck every year becuz I got other expenses I hav to add thats like 0.0049562 per min and it adds up.
I cant even pre-order any games cuz gaming is too expensive. There some games I simply cannot even get or ever play cuz I dont hav enough money to pay for all of them.
Last pre order game? 3rd strike Am I a plus member? yes
so honestly what is your point also £>>>$ It cost more over here and you get less to the service. alot less then the ps3 offers for free,
@kaveti6616 I work for my money and spend It how I want to spend It If I don't feel to give what I worked for to charities I don't this does not make me good or bad positive or negative...
@lMHl Never said I needed a new hobbie...crack? are you stupid I have no money problems In the end that can turn out way more exspensive the gaming plus I need not turn to drugs as I have no interest in them
wear does this talk about not having money come from? I said i'd buy an xbox if they got ride of xbl fee's correct me if im wrong but im sure the xbox cost more then 12mnths live
"Am I a plus member? yes " what you are is a hypocrite. Do you even realize that by being a member of "plus" you can really no longer differentiate yourself from the free members?
You have to really think about that but I will save you the time. When you are a paid member of anything there is a different outlook you now hold on what that membership means. You are telling sony that you will pay to play their "free" games for as long as you keep your membership current.
You cant say you can play online for free anymore because you are paying for the service if you use it or not. I am not talking in the sense of required to play but in the simplest of...you are paying for a service you may not take advantage of and sony still get the $$ if you do or dont.
At least with MS they were up front about it. Charging from the first day and ever increasing what you get from that membership. Sony and their free philosophy is going in the opposite direction. We are suddenly seeing a robbing from the poor to give to the rich. Meaning what once was available to the free members is now being restructured into the paid side of things.
Sony may keep online play free but there will be a restriction. Game size caps and player limits will be imposed to those who arent paid members. They know that to get people to sign up they have to slowly start taking things away from them to squeeze them into the corner of plus no longer being an option.
Like I said about live. It was paid from the beginning and has been getting better. So much that they never needed to create a free side but they did and with 90% of the same rights as the paid members. That last 10% is the online play aspect. There are lots of people who dont game online but they use live to chat and download movies and games and yes MS has free stuff too that is free for all with no strings attached.
Sony had to start off free because there wasnt anything their service was good for except the online play. So that is why we will see them setting limits to those free players. And yet they can still proclaim they offer free online play.
MS has made a killing off of live. You dont think sony wants to as well??? Every new feature for PSN will come to the Plus members I guaranty that.
I pay for live but I dont pay for psn. At least for now anyway.
@gw4k Your funny. The PS3 has been outselling the 360 for the last 3yrs, and at a higher price point. This year the PS3 has been outselling the 360, this was before the price drop. M$ has had a cheaper console on the market since then gen started. Yet it continues to get outsold.
The only way the 360 will outsell the PS3 is if they do the Fire sale.
@KingSlayer Sony's not sweating that 4m lead from M$, because its not a 4m lead.
@Kingdoms What momentum are you talking about? How can M$ have the momentum when they have been outsold for the past 3yrs? Sony is the one with the momentum. Every year the PS3 sells more.
A price cut would make sure Sony couldn't gain any ground but MS has a business to run it doesn't matter what us 360 fanboys wan't. MS feels risking a slow down or possible loss in top sales is worth the maximum impact of a real cut later on due to the current momentum being so high now.(they're not only going to risk PS3 outselling the 360, they don't mind too much because they think an official cut later on will have a greater impact than the last one)
After Sony released their figures first for the first time in a long time earlier this year, MS released theirs 2nd showing with out a doubt the 360 was beating PS3 WW, Sony couldn't wait to adjust the real figures after seeing MS's this last time. Sony dropped the price and MS feels bundles will be good enough to combat Sony's cut forced by the 360's momentum.
unlike morons like you, microsoft know profit is more important than sales.
Sometimes just because you sell more, doesnt mean you make more money. Why do yuo think sony doesnt have a 199 ps3 right now? Or why nintendo waited to cut the price of the 3DS?
I imagine COD sales are gonna break records again if this is true. Everyone and their mom is gonna have one. Especially if they cut it to $100 bucks, my God I would have one in every room in the house.
yes because 200 isn't cheap enough go whine somehwere else if your complaining about the 360 price then complain about the vita price.......honestly people don't think
but then again its n4g so anything that isn't in support of sony is condemned.....i still will never fall for this "console war" joke i like both of em what now fanboys
I included the Simpsons 360 because it was gold, and I was implying the console would be golden if Microsoft made the appropriate action. I guess it didn't resonate with you guys lol
My impression when I saw Simpsons model chosen as the picture is Microsoft acting like Homer for not dropping X360 price. Let's try to gain as much profit with the current price until they got beaten by PS3 later in sales.
I say a price cut right before the holiday season will occur. given that people will take advantage of the holiday sales ,black Friday, K-mart layaway plans ,cyber Monday & everything else that takes place after thanksgiving. that when a price cut will happen.
I think MS will officially announce a price cut across the board as the the holidays approach, what retailers do before an official price cut is just icing on the cake so to speak.
When is the last time that the 360 lost in sales numbers in the most important place in the World for sales? Could of sworn NPD has had it on top, month after month, after month...
I'm sure MS is pleased with losing ground in Europe, being last in Japan, and hoping the 8 million lead they have in the US over Sony will last forever. While MS and Sony battle it out in the US, Nintendo laughs at both of them.
There will be a price cut but I don't think it will be anything dramatic. If MS is trying to extend this gen as long as possible and still make a profit, price cuts will only take you so far. The Wii is the cheapest it has ever been at $150 yet sales are slowing for it. If 80 million units sold (which I think the Wii is at now) is the saturation point, both MS and Sony don't have too long before they hit that and price won't matter.
Like Nintendo, MS and Sony should keep adding more to the package (games and downloadable content) instead of engaging in a price war.
it's business and it's time 360 top model launched at $400 360 top model today $300 That's a 25% drop
PS3 top model at launch $600 PS3 top model today $250 That's a 58% drop
Wii top model at launch $250 Wii price today $150 That's a 40% drop
M$ needs to do it to stay on par with the comp. Competition is great for consumesr. I'm glad there are 3 consoles on the market. And to think the 360 was suppose to die when the PS3 launched.
MS would have to had worked out a price cut well in advance with retailers.
Retail chains and MS sign deals, basically stating that, if MS chops the price before a certain amount of time has expired on a set of purchased consoles, they have to refund the retail chain the difference, etc. Price cuts must be planned well in advance for this reason, and others -- often they are timed with manufacturing process changes, so that, conveniently, old models are taken off the shelves by the time the price cut happens.
MS is not going to cut the price this year, for many reasons. The best they can do is make some sweet holiday bundles.
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If Sony wants to keep up, they should do another price cut. Hmmm, maybe even go the way of HP and do a fire sale just like the Touchapd.
Speaking of the HP TouchPad, if you missed out on the killer deal, just wait a few weeks. HP is producing another million of them right now. All will be sold for $99!
By the way, MS really cares about it's gamers. Sure the bottom line is business but Sony is the same way. It only makes sense.
Also, if Sony out sold the 360 I would congratulate them. I love Sony and own many of their products including the PS3, PSP, TV, etc
it will be on the stand alone kinect unit. I can see them selling for $99. If MS wants to sell kinects to the millions who have the older 360 then that is what needs to be done.
They wont cut the price on the retail 360 but instead add more freebie games to it. Or create various different game bundles.
Why should Sony care more about the profit MS make than their own?
I swear people on this site seam to think this is a war and not a business.
Of course there is also the matter of the volume of ads Sony is putting out there because they've already said before they can't out-advertise MS and they probably can't do so either.
As for the 360 price cut. I still think its too early especially if the PS3 price cut doesn't affect the sales of the 360. I see no reason for MS to cut into their profit.
Drastic times calls for drastic measures but this ain't that time not for the 360 anyways.
is it really such a big deal that it costs $5 a month for live. Break it down even further and it comes out to $.16438356164... per day over the course of a year.
That is cheaper than feeding those starving kids in other countries. Not to mention you get more satisfaction from live than you do wondering if they really are feeding those starving kids in other countries.
yes the argument is tired but its still valid if you dm paying twice 2 use a p2p connection for gaming ok
Can someone tell MS to just let me play online for free?
I accept ur arguement xboxlive is better than psn.
Just like how the ps3 is better than the xbox360.
Or the pc being better than the ps3.
But I simply cannot afford to pay for that 0.05618 or whatever cents per minute or 60 buck every year becuz I got other expenses I hav to add thats like 0.0049562 per min and it adds up.
I cant even pre-order any games cuz gaming is too expensive. There some games I simply cannot even get or ever play cuz I dont hav enough money to pay for all of them.
Wow.
I guess some can afford it and others cant.
I got a new hobby for ya....Crack
Last pre order game?
3rd strike
Am I a plus member?
yes
so honestly what is your point also £>>>$ It cost more over here and you get less to the service. alot less then the ps3 offers for free,
@kaveti6616 I work for my money and spend It how I want to spend It If I don't feel to give what I worked for to charities I don't this does not make me good or bad positive or negative...
@lMHl
Never said I needed a new hobbie...crack? are you stupid I have no money problems In the end that can turn out way more exspensive the gaming plus I need not turn to drugs as I have no interest in them
wear does this talk about not having money come from? I said i'd buy an xbox if they got ride of xbl fee's correct me if im wrong but im sure the xbox cost more then 12mnths live
what you are is a hypocrite. Do you even realize that by being a member of "plus" you can really no longer differentiate yourself from the free members?
You have to really think about that but I will save you the time. When you are a paid member of anything there is a different outlook you now hold on what that membership means. You are telling sony that you will pay to play their "free" games for as long as you keep your membership current.
You cant say you can play online for free anymore because you are paying for the service if you use it or not. I am not talking in the sense of required to play but in the simplest of...you are paying for a service you may not take advantage of and sony still get the $$ if you do or dont.
At least with MS they were up front about it. Charging from the first day and ever increasing what you get from that membership. Sony and their free philosophy is going in the opposite direction. We are suddenly seeing a robbing from the poor to give to the rich. Meaning what once was available to the free members is now being restructured into the paid side of things.
Sony may keep online play free but there will be a restriction. Game size caps and player limits will be imposed to those who arent paid members. They know that to get people to sign up they have to slowly start taking things away from them to squeeze them into the corner of plus no longer being an option.
Like I said about live. It was paid from the beginning and has been getting better. So much that they never needed to create a free side but they did and with 90% of the same rights as the paid members. That last 10% is the online play aspect. There are lots of people who dont game online but they use live to chat and download movies and games and yes MS has free stuff too that is free for all with no strings attached.
Sony had to start off free because there wasnt anything their service was good for except the online play. So that is why we will see them setting limits to those free players. And yet they can still proclaim they offer free online play.
MS has made a killing off of live. You dont think sony wants to as well??? Every new feature for PSN will come to the Plus members I guaranty that.
I pay for live but I dont pay for psn. At least for now anyway.
Your funny. The PS3 has been outselling the 360 for the last 3yrs, and at a higher price point. This year the PS3 has been outselling the 360, this was before the price drop. M$ has had a cheaper console on the market since then gen started. Yet it continues to get outsold.
The only way the 360 will outsell the PS3 is if they do the Fire sale.
@KingSlayer
Sony's not sweating that 4m lead from M$, because its not a 4m lead.
@Kingdoms
What momentum are you talking about? How can M$ have the momentum when they have been outsold for the past 3yrs? Sony is the one with the momentum. Every year the PS3 sells more.
After Sony released their figures first for the first time in a long time earlier this year, MS released theirs 2nd showing with out a doubt the 360 was beating PS3 WW, Sony couldn't wait to adjust the real figures after seeing MS's this last time. Sony dropped the price and MS feels bundles will be good enough to combat Sony's cut forced by the 360's momentum.
Sometimes just because you sell more, doesnt mean you make more money. Why do yuo think sony doesnt have a 199 ps3 right now? Or why nintendo waited to cut the price of the 3DS?
but then again its n4g so anything that isn't in support of sony is condemned.....i still will never fall for this "console war" joke i like both of em what now fanboys
I guess, we go on living kitten-san. I guess we go on living.
When is the last time that the 360 lost in sales numbers in the most important place in the World for sales? Could of sworn NPD has had it on top, month after month, after month...
Like Nintendo, MS and Sony should keep adding more to the package (games and downloadable content) instead of engaging in a price war.
360 top model launched at $400
360 top model today $300
That's a 25% drop
PS3 top model at launch $600
PS3 top model today $250
That's a 58% drop
Wii top model at launch $250
Wii price today $150
That's a 40% drop
M$ needs to do it to stay on par with the comp. Competition is great for consumesr. I'm glad there are 3 consoles on the market. And to think the 360 was suppose to die when the PS3 launched.
Retail chains and MS sign deals, basically stating that, if MS chops the price before a certain amount of time has expired on a set of purchased consoles, they have to refund the retail chain the difference, etc. Price cuts must be planned well in advance for this reason, and others -- often they are timed with manufacturing process changes, so that, conveniently, old models are taken off the shelves by the time the price cut happens.
MS is not going to cut the price this year, for many reasons. The best they can do is make some sweet holiday bundles.