Speaking in a special edition of Iwata Asks, Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata and Shigeru Miyamoto talked, amongst other things, about the perceptions of the Wii as a casual console.
I'm "core", and it appealed to me. *shrugs*
Stupid articles making stupid assumptions.
LOGICWINS! ...I agree....
Thats because you take anything up the arse Nintendo gives you. I have seen your videos.
I've got one, I've got all the resident evil games for it, and picked up the gamecube version of resident evil 2 and 3, got scarface, the godfather. The games it had on offer appealed greatly to me
I believe I'm core and i would like a metroid for ps3 also xenon chronicles etc i think i is appealing just not enough to own one
I'm core and I love the wii, it has great games
Anyone care to explain the disagrees?
Of course, no explanations lol. You people are funny.
I got Tales of Symphonia, Fragile Dreams, Blade of Muramasa, No More Heroes 1 & 2 on it and is still waiting for Xenoblade and Last Story to hopefully come along the NTSC English speaking market.
This is what happens when everyone tries to use industry buzz words like "core". I bought a Wii right away and couldn't have been happier with it. Looking forward to Zelda Skyward Sword later this year!
It had some great "core" games, it was just outdated and had a really bad online system
If I had a pathetic little laptop, and all I wanted to play were new, small indie games, would it still be outdated? Kinda. But not for it's intended use. The Wii isn't as strong as it's competitors, but it does what it is intended for.
True, but that's assuming the only games you played were indies. I think hardcore gamers would want something more at some point.
Metroid Prime was awesome, Metroid other M was awesome, Super paper mario if freaking awesome, so yh dont get what this article is on about :/
I don't even know what "core" means. But I bought the Wii.. and sold it after a couple of months because it had zero appeal to me due to the fact the control scheme was so inaccurate and the games out at the time had no appeal to me whatsoever.
I'm core and I hate the Wii. Why? Because despite Nintendo games, the system was still an overpriced piece of old gen non HD gimmicy crap.
I'm pretty sure we all know why it didn't appeal to the 'core'. Do we really need an article on it?
I think Nintendo failed to the core gamers when the Wii graphics and Wii motion control/play mechanic didn't improve as much; after their 1st Gen Games. That being said,some Core gamers simply got bored of playing the Wii and would rather spend the time and money on the PS3/360.
the worst nintendo system ever created, yet the highest sales wise nintendo "console" ever created. earth is a strange place to live in XD
only ppl who hate the wii so strongly are fanboys usually
I am primarily a PC gamer and I spend time enjoying the Wii. I find the system a blast!!!
Shite dated hardware Shite Online Nothing but crappy kiddy games, and a ton of shovelware Not Hi Def nothing but mario & Zelda rehashes Over priced for what it offered. Nothing more than a Faster gamecube with gimmericky motion controls.
As long as the games are fun who the hell cares about dated hardware? The PS3 is severely dated compared to my PC so what is your point? PSN is decent at best. It is by far not the most stable online platform. Games lag on LBP when you have 4 player matches... Yeah. PS2 has more shovelware and crappy kiddy game than the entire Wii library combined yet nobody complains about that. It's blasphemous for Nintendo while it's awesome for Sony? Hypocrisy much? I can say the same about the PS3 - Not 1080p60FPS in the majority of AAA blockbuster exclusive titles. There are some ports with sub HD resolutions like RDR. And Sony is spending SO MUCH TIME in rehashing PS2 games instead of giving gamers backward compatibility in the Slim PS3s. What, those are not rehashes? Overpriced for what it offered but yet it's the cheapest console of this gen. No wonder it sells so much. Oh and the Move isn't much different from the Wiimote and it has no good games. Now eat it!!!
exactly. when was the last time nintendo brought a new IP.. pikman? that was years ago. and above, the thing with the ps2 was that SONY still had enough first party studios to churn up first party exclusives and new IPs.. something NINTENDO fails to do nowadays. and sony is not spending "SO MUCH TIME" bringing ps2 games back in HD glory, they have more new core titles coming out. the fans are the ones asking for the HD collections, and SONY happily obliges. PS3 when it came out at 600 was not overpriced. I laughed at everyone with my blue ray player, game system, and media HUB. Its not SONY's fault third party studios can't muster up the resources to make the most out of the system. I see first party games that deliver HD gaming, where the Wii vastly struggles and/or is crippled at doing. Finally, the Move was/is a gimmick, just like the wii and its waggle controls. This is why the Wii is falling quickly off its perch. The casual market simply does not have the capacity to keep purchasing more of the same product. Perhaps Wii+ , err WiiU, will jump start sales. However, I'm skeptical because the huge tablet controller will throw many people off. And no, its not because they are idiots, its because of this simple reasoning: what is the point of having a console, when you have a huge controller in your hand, why can't you remove the console, and have everything set up in the palms of your hands. Nintendo also did a horrible job a demonstrating the product and confused more than they had hoped. Moreover, I'm not buying the bs developers are saying about the WiiU's power, show me the specs and I'll make my own conclusion.
"Its not SONY's fault third party studios can't muster up the resources to make the most out of the system. I see first party games that deliver HD gaming, where the Wii vastly struggles and/or is crippled at doing. " HD gaming? You mean the old antiquated 720p30FPS even on PS2 remakes? Oh, ok. Thanks for the heads up! EDIT: Feel free to flag me down as a troll all you like. I could easily brush you aside as an moron but simply choose not to. Xbox and Nintendo fans simply cannot enjoy discussing their system without idiot Sony trolls downplaying other non Sony consoles in the name of the PS3. Why can't I as a Wii and Xbox fan also troll? Why are Sony fanboys the only morons entitled to trolling other consoles on N4G? Is the PS3 really that amazingly entertaining its fans still have enough time on their hands to bash Nintendo and Xbox all day long on this site? I am not convinced at all, really. Maybe the fanboy trolling is a result of "AAA blockbuster action" games being significantly shorter this generation than your average game from yesteryear, thus gamers get bored of their games quicker. :)
/facepalm. troll fails at trolling. edit* I'm not saying Wii games are bad. I thoroughly enjoyed metroid corruption, and a huge fan of SSBB and Mario Kart. Above all when theres 3 +, the Wii is always the best system to use.
"pikman" You mean Pikmin. Pikman just sounds like a failed superhero.
Zelda rehashes? Where? I want to play more Zelda -- I could have sworn there's only one Zelda game on the system!
Would love to know the name of the other Zelda game already released on the Wii. There must be one, otherwise there wouldn't be 2 disagrees.
isn't anyone sick of this "core" talk all the time we are all gamers, and we all like different things just bring out the Wii U already.
Xenoblade,Last Story,SMG 1-2,Metroid Prime,Metroid other M,Dragon Quest X(TGS),Monster Hunter Tri,Resident Evil 4,Zelda SS,all casual games? -Its cool core games- I like Wii.
The "core" didn't like the Wii because they were told not to. Most everyone else is just fine with it. Not everyone likes it, which makes sense. There is more than one type of person, after all. But then there are people who decided to hate it when Nintendo stamped their name on it. And most often, hate isn't logical, so common sense dosen't aply to these people. Which is a shame, cause the Wii is pretty awesome.
Games defined the Wii's target audience. Nintendo always promoted their Wii Music, Fit, and Play to the extreme. Then there's the fact they didn't and still don't localize any of their core games outside of the typical Nintendo franchises, which are mostly kid-friendly. Iwata and Miyamoto pointing the finger at HD and online tells me they still don't get it. For North America, first step to redemption is to fire the biggest douchebag, Reggie.
A lot of those games not having made the trip yet probably has more to do with Nintendo Europe not wanting them to, or Corporate Nintendo as a whole, than Reggie. Nintendo will sell these games for the increase in sales it will bring in Europe from gamers who imported American Wiis in order to take advantage of the lower American price. Think about it. No flat out "no" from Nintendo, empty first half for Nintendo next year console wise, and three big games alot of people over here want. But if they announced this outright, Europeans would simply wait until next year and import, and Nintendo Europe would miss out on sales. Are they coming to America? I think so. But we'll have to wait and see.
There's no secret plans for NoA to release those games.
It's a MO game with huge monsters,weapon & armor ceation, and arena battles.There's also no friendcodes required! It's not like they can't afford to buy one - the system is so freaking inexpensive now.
Too busy. Playing COD.
They wonder why their console doesn't appeal to hardcore gamers? it's very simple because those hardcore gamers who like "specific" type of games for example shoot em up or JRPG or racing or sports or action adventure etc.. cant find anything to play on this console if u want racing then PS3 & 360 have GT5 & Forza if u want sports u can find PRO and FIFA also on PS3/360 if u want beat em up then u can find plenty of those on PS3/360 and there is exclusive franchises that million of ppl of teen age to 30-40+ love like Uncharted, Halo, MGS, Gears, Infamous, GoW and more... what Ninty have? mario? tell me a game who can appeal to a hardcore gamer of age 20 to 30 dont forget that most hardcore gamers play games for the past 15-20 years they want some adult themes to their games platforms wont do the trick anymore.. When I was 10-12 I was owner of a SNES and atm it was for sure the best console existed but my taste back then was different I could play Mario & Donkey Kong and have a blast not anymore after that I pass to PS1 and guess what was the game that made me buy one, RE1 ofc the experience back then on 96 when u was playing this game was something out of this world the quality of games we play in general in PS1 was truly astonishing I can say with ease 100 games that it was AAA titles. Till now I couldn't care less for the Wii it was 100% a family console with kiddie games like every1 say already but now that games like Xenoblade & The Last Story coming it make me desperate to buy one just to play those games the reason is that I didn't play a JRPG worth my time for the past 10 years and the creators of those 2 games have made my 2 all time favorite games FFVII & Xenogears for the first time I can say that now it is worth it to own a Wii.
" with kiddie games" I love how you continue to say that it's suddenly a weeabo console. E rating doesn't mean "kiddy" btw. It just means there is no content which should not be viewed by a younger audience. To each his own, but it sounds like people are afraid to be judged if they play games that look colourful and innocent at core.
I still play mines.
Because they need to get over peer pressure?
I consider myself core. I had the SNES, N64 & Gamecube. Ocarina of Time is one of my favaorite games of all time and I still have the gold cartridge. The reason Wii didn't appeal to me was because it just seemed like Nintendo re-packaged the gamecube with motion controls and overcharged for it. This is just my perception and I'm not saying it's a fact. I'm glad it worked for them so that they can stay in the game to give Sony competition.
Because it wasn't catered to the hardcore? I mean seriously, any Nintendo fanboy denying the blatant chasing of soccer moms in Nintendo's advertising campaign is a fool. Nintendo says right in the interview that they failed to meet the needs of "core gamers" so what is with the denial?
The wii has had core games on it but not as many good ones as the other two systems. Some games were definitely missing from the wii, like a new pikmin game.
I'm sick of the term "Core". It was only invented by players / games developers to try and make what used to be seen as a geeky hobby somehow "cool". Whatever type of game you play, you're still using a controller to move a bunch of pixels on screen.
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