GameZone Confirms at PAX Prime that massive RPG The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim will ship on 1 disc for the Xbox 360
Whats install size? boy its gotta be big...
It doesn't necessarily have to be that large because it will most likely have smaller resolution textures and maybe lesser sound quality. Also, are there any cutscenes in Skyrim? If not, that could save a ton of space. If it fits on 1 dual layered DVD it would probably mean it's less than 10 GB.
So youre saying (between console versions) the blu ray version could have better graphics and sound? Still hard to believe a game this size will fit on one DVD
Going to have to disagree. Smaller resolution textures and lesser sound quality compared to what? The game looks unbelievable. You sound as if they had a better game up and running then downgraded it for the 360. Perhaps the game was designed from the ground up to be more efficient from the start. Just saying the game demos shown look phenomenal for this genre or period for that matter. Older build http://www.ign.com/videos/2...
Seems like Bethesda will be making some devs look silly. I'm still wondering how, with so much content, Gears 3 will be on one disc. The talented devs know how to squeeze every drop of goodness out the tools they have to use. What I find cringe worthy and wasteful is Blu-ray discs with only 5-7 gigs of info out of 25? It's crazy...
hopefully they dont downgrade PS3 version to match the graphical quality. and LoL @Wraith Gears is MP game. same thing over and over.and SP isnt too long. And bluray is 50 gig with double layer. Every dev complains about disc size. has nothing to do with who is better dev. you just gotta make sacrifices to fit everything into one disc.
Oh, my comment wasn't to downplay Blu-ray, it was towards devs not putting enough content on them. I'll leave the mudslinging to you folks with one bubble, lol.
Oblivion was less than 6 gigs people. 9 will be enough, they aren't putting in more content than OB. Just BETTER content. The graphical upgrades are the only upgrade that requires a larger amount of space.
Basically, the game will be a slightly better looking Oblivion, full of the same bugs and glitches that plagued every other game these guys created. If you loved Oblivion and Fallout despite all their problems, you'll love Skyrim. They won't be making any devs look silly.
@dualconsoleowner You do know gears of war 3 is the longest single player game epic has EVER made period. Their not "downgrading" anything. The DVD isnt that limited. They only need 2-4 if its cutscene heavy. Texture are not that big on disc space.
Oblivion's and Fallout 3's glitches were minimal. Fallout: New Vegas wasn't even developed by Bethesda.
Not disagreeing with you but the unreal series was basically multi-player only except unreal2 i think. So what OTHER single player games are you talking about?
Wow, did not expect that. Oblivion GOTY was on 2 discs for the 360... Does not bode well Edit: Who disagreed? Proof -
You are forgetting two things. First, Skyrim uses a new engine. Second, Oblivion was released five years ago, and developers(including Bethesda)are now more capable of optimizing their games for each of the systems.
And besides what Jack said it is cheaper for them to add another DVD to the GOTY edition than to pay a buck of people to redo the original to fit all the DLC on that disk. Just pop in another DVD and sell it for full price again.
Wow! I am very surprised but he nailed it. Its all in game but from what I have seen its huge and gorgeous. My hat goes off.
Doesnt really matter since its optional
not gonna lie...a bit surprised but since they've basically only shown the 360 version in demos and such, I'm not too worried. The game looked great in all the demos.
Kind of a bad thing...
...for people that don't know what they're talking about...
This is surprising given the size and scope of the game.
its not surprising for anyone that actually has any idea about game development. Rage is HUGE on disc because of megatextures - thats the ONLY reason. id, for better or worse, literally draw the entire map - every single square cm of it is unique. every other game uses repeated assets/textures. now neither method is "wrong", just different to each other. i mean, do you notice or care if the ground texture isnt unique in every cm of a level? i dont. i dont care if a brick house has the same brick textures as another brick house - theyre just bricks, they tend to look the same. in rage, no 2 bricks/trees/rocks/paths look the same because theyre all unique, and as such the megatexture takes up gigs and gigs of space. the same play area using conventional techniques would be a few hundred megs at most. thats why Skyrim can have a MUCH bigger playable area, with great graphics, yet only be a fraction of the on-disc size. size on disc != quality of graphics or size of game. and the install size wont be more than 8gb, because it literally cant be.
Yeah, don't know where the guy above you was getting 10 gigs from.
new 360 disks hold 10 GB thats probably what he ment What I find funny is people worry about stuff they don't even know about. For all we know this was suppose to be 600 hours instead of 300.
actually 10gigs even 12 or 13 gigs is possible.Many things decompress to install.An it appears the game will be have to be heavily compressed.Which to be honest sucks because no compression would mean they could push it further then they have.
I'm actually very surprised at this news. I wonder how they managed to make it fit into 1 disc... Its kinda worrisome for me, this game is supposed to be jam packed with content and I don't want any less...
When has a game Developed and Published by Bethesda ever really left people feeling cheated? Especially the Elder Scrolls series. I can't think of one in the last 10-15 years. I have complete and total faith in Bethesda.
@ Element I never heard of a GAME called "Horse armor". When did that release? Oh, unless you mean the DLC that no one HAD to buy. I do believe he said "When has a game Developed and Published by Bethesda ever really left people feeling cheated?” Key phrase being "A GAME". Now if he would of said “When has Bethesda ever released ANYTHING that left people feeling cheated?", you might have a point, but he didn’t, he clearly said A GAME.
Well, I think people feel cheated by DLC from Bethesda. Get off your high horse, even if it has armor. If you want to nit pick everything everybody says then consider the DLC something Bethesda made. It may not be a game, but they created it, they chose to sell it, and it was the laughing stock of the year. I love the Elder Scrolls series and the Bethesda Fallout 3 game, but they aren't infallible.
Yea but YOUR comment towards him was WRONG. He said “a game Developed and Published by Bethesda ", "GAME!!!!!!", he was specific, he didn't say “anything they’ve done”, or “DLC”, or even leave it up to you to figure out, he said “A GAME!!!!”. Then you went on to talk about DLC which had nothing to do with what he said. I guess my "high horse" bucked and kicked you in the head, because you've got to be pretty dense not to understand the difference. No one had to buy the armor, and again he asked "When has a game Developed and Published by Bethesda ever really left people feeling cheated?", see “A GAME!!!!”, can you understand, it has nothing to do with the "Horse armor?" [email protected] you wrote. One more time, he was talking about "A GAME!!!!!!", specifically. I know it seems like people are on high horses when you are so low in the gutter, but it should be easy, for even you, to understand how dumb your original comment was, and how little it had to do with what Sabian187 said. Why is it so hard for some people to admit when they're wrong, or at least STFU and go about their day without defending their stupidity?
You sound angry. Chill out, man
@ ElementX Actually he sounds right to me. You sound like you got called out and have no way to counter, so you say, " you sound mad chill bro". @ Tyrion I think you hit the nail on the head, and it hurt someone’s feelings.
let see fallout 3 one disk fallout new Vegas 1 disk oblivion 1 disk Bethesda games are usually one disk they re-use dungeons textures and a lot of their dungeons are small only 2 or three areas sometimes big or small depending on if it was used for quest or not and it looks the same in almost every room except for import rooms meant for major quests or events so are you shocked it is only on one disk but just imagine what it would look like on two or three disk one thing about multiplatform games it is only as good as the lowest system can handle unless you have a pc then the sky is the limit the ps3 only gets minor tweaks if anything otherwise almost the same graphics with little more color to it which you don't even notice after a while of playing it everything starts to look the same eventually thank goodness for quick travel and usually a good story line.
Yay, that means tons of DLC for 10-15 a pop. Don't get me wrong, nothing will stop me from buying it, but come on, it seems like it should at least be on 2 discs.
More discs doesn't necessarily mean more content. Take L.A. Noire for example. 3 disc, 20-25 hours SP story and THATS it. RAGE, 3 disc, 20-30 hour SP story, co-op, multiplayer and 20,000X better graphics.
Hi-res graphics means more discs, not content.
@lifesanrpg Not necessarily true either. Look at Crysis 2, and Gears 3. Both amazing looking games and on one disc for 360. EDIT: Hmm Crysis 2 I would say yes. Gears I don't know. I mean they have SP which I'm not even sure how long that's estimated to be, co-op, horde mode, beast mode, MP etc. Gears is compressed to hell though. Skyrim definitely has more content, but L.A. Noire I'm not sure. Most of the space used was for the facial tech anyway.
@ xPhearR3dx I agree completely. Don't get me wrong, content does take up space, especially when you are talking about the amount in a game like LA Noire and Skyrim. But it doesn't take AS MUCH as graphics. I'm not sure on the total hours (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), but I think the content for Gears 3 and Crysis 2 is considerably shorter compared to LA Noire & Skyrim.
More devs should follow Crytek's super PC upgrade packs. Skyrim should have one too.
If it took up more disks, that doesn't mean there adding a bunch of content. So don't be wishing for more disks. Oh and if u kept up with development, a lot of the gameplay videos of Skyrim were shown on 360 and they looked amazing. So stop complaining about how the graphics are going to suck. Remember the days when graphics in games weren't that important. Damn u graphic whores.
lol it's an open world game if it were on 2 discs it would be hard to manage, can you imagine getting to a point in the world and having to switch discs to go to the next are it would either become frustrating with quests spread across 2 discs or it would limit many of the quests ect they HAD to get it on one disc realistically....
-_- wow just wow. La. Noire wasnt like that. Mass effect 2 wasnt like that. A dvd can fit an open world game.
la noir I can't speak for but mass effect 2 isn't the same as an elder scrolls game- more often than not you're mission would take place on one or 2 planets on ME2 so having half the planets on 1 disc wouldn't be as big an issue but as I say I'm not sure how their system for that worked, elder scrolls games typically have you travelling around to various places ALL over the map so if parts of the map were on different discs it would limit the game.... I didn't say it couldn't fit an open world ame I just said it's more complicated to have multiple discs with a fully open world game.
ME2 is not an open world game. The mission levels are actually linear.
All I know is, Every open world game thats being made on a xbox claims to have to switch discs every time your in this region but thats never the case.
that's because that would be game ruining :p it would be awful and annoying so they find ways around it :p
Fallout 3 was three discs too, right?
They have pretty much being showing the 360 version. Its going to look fantastic on whatever version you play. The PC crowd will have the most eyegasms though, too bad my PS3 copy will have to do =)
Deus Ex is a 40hr plus game and it's on 1 disc. Dead Space 2 has a 10-11hr SP and 5 multiplayer maps and was on 2 disc. Still can't figure out why Dead Space 2 takes so much space.
I'm just going to throw this out there but I have a funny feeling this game could of been way longer....longer then what it already is if Microsoft didn't use that stupid DVD format which, let's be honest, has dumbed some games down this gen and I bet it's held some MP games back. If Microsoft had the same format as Sony's blu ray I bet they could of added ideas into this to make it even more epic then it already is. I mean sure you can say if it was just made for the PC and PS3 then the PS3 would dumb down the PC version but at least it would be as bad as it being dumbed down more for the 360 version. How many times during development they came up with an amazing idea to add to the world of Skyrim only for one person to say "Great idea................but it means we would go over the 360's DVD disc size" <throws idea into bin> I just feel like they don't give a crap about us PC owners anymore. Like were not the first audience...we don't come first.
I really really really doubt that they could have made it longer than the 300+ hours of content they've already confirmed. By they way, What do you think the PC physical copy is going to ship on? It sure as hell wouldn't have been blu-ray...not enough people have blu readers, I know I don't and I have a hell of a machine..
PC doesn't need blu-ray because basically every game must install to the hard drive which is not limited by size and runs much faster than optical media.
Why does every N4G idiot think he knows what game resources consume data on a disc? Games are not like DVD movies - there is no direct link between length of game and size of game on disc. Heck, classic games like Tetris and Asteroids are, in theory, millions of hours long. Infinite, to be exact. They're also like 1k in size. According to the logic of most of the morons here, these 2 old games should be multiple blurays in size. You don't have to be a game developer to look at this example and realize length of game is irrelevant to size of game. Quit talking out your ass like you know a single thing about processing and storing game data.
I still don't get why this is a big deal, get off your fat lazy ass and change the disc.
amazing, just amazing, good news for 360 fans, and yet ps3 fans still try to spin it. I stopped hating so much when I bought both systems, something I suggest you all do too, stop hating on the systems fanboys.
I imagined it would be on one disc considering the fact its more content than environment 200+ hours of gameplay is simply impressive. Lol you're making a game with tremendous content, an immersive world and addicting gameplay not a story driven drama game(that tends to drag) where u have to solve crimes that barely fits on Blue Ray and 3 discs on the Xbox.
Wow. Wouldn't have mind more than one disc as long as I could have installed the game and just play on one. I wish I got a better PC.
Good news for me. I'm buying it on PS3. I think this guys (Bethesda) are trying to hide something. Why would they say that they have gotten it to fit on the 360 Disc it's dumb. Somehow i think they took off stuff. Maybe graphics. Textures,bits of stuff that will not be present on the 360 version. Because of the DVD. The PS3 version in the other hand will be better "PS3 Version Getting lot of Attention" Maybe improved graphics way better than the 360 Version. I just glas so glad that i'm hearing this news. Makes me giggle. I buying Skyrim for PS3 thats for sure now that i have heard this news, and most probably it will be how i say. The PS3 Version will be better. PC>PS3>360. Just like Oblivion was on the PS3. It was the best. Better that Xbox.
What the hell are you all talking about? Fallout 3 on PS3 was better. It was Oblivion repeated again. Don't deny it 360 fanboys. You just say that so you can feel happy. :P. Plus the Oblivion GOTY came in one disc. And Fallout 3 GOTY also came in one disc. I prefer that. :P
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