GB: "Gabe Newell had a lot to say about the PS3 version of Portal 2. For starters, we know he is happy that Sony allowed Valve to use Steamworks with PS3, which is a big deal since consoles are supposed to be closed platforms."
sadly thx m$ being too d*** strict I won't experience the benefit of steam....well there's always my pc
Buy a ps3 then? I can't believe you don't have one tbh... With the price cut and games coming out etc... If you're a 'hardcore' gamer you will have every platform. In short... Want to experience the benefit of steam? Play you'r games on pc through steam or get a ps3
College can't pay for itself sadly.
College is free if I'm not mistaken? (from the UK) (In the UK anyway) ... @Zeal0us
In the states college is about 20 to 100 grand a year, depending on what school you go to. Edit: thats just tuition. Books, food, boarding extra
20-100 grands ? that sucks, here In Sweden we get 500$ monthly for studying with options to borrow 900$ for food :)
It's "free" in Cali as well. Sucks that you don't have enough extra for a PS3 though.
JUNIOR COLLEGE can be free (fee waiver). But there isn't an automatic free college in California.
OMG Looks like i'm moving to the UK college Fee's and Tuition is killing my wallet
I used "free" instead of free because I consider the price of a dinner at Chili's to be pretty cheap for a college education. Ignoring the books and other fees means that at least the community colleges are around $20-$26 per unit. But you are right. They aren't free.
Well believe it or not most folks don't buy both consoles. They just dont do it. And Im talkin about the majority not the gamers who buy both consoles all the time. Like myself, I only have a PS3 and dont plan on buying a 360, but that doesnt mean I'll prolly never get one, just not any time soon. Every body's gaming situation is different so you just gotta roll with whatcha got.
College is only free to people who get a grant and those people are from poor backgrounds. I live in Ireland and college fee are around €8000 a year. On topic, I'm excited to see where the steam PS3 integration goes. This is only possible with an open console such as PS3.
I don't have both consoles and the main reason is the cost of games. I can afford the console itself, just not all the games that go with it lol. Like my priority goes towards Uncharted 3 & Resistance etc, I'd like to have a 360 and play Gears 3 and the Halos but just can't afford them all :( It's the reason I won't be getting Vita lol, until I get a good job anyway...
YAY, GAMING BOLT...........WAY TO WRITE AN ARTICLE ABOUT AN ARTICLE THAT EUROGAMER WROTE. YOUR WEBSITE IS TRASH.
If you spent more time studying instead of playing xbox 360, maybe you would have gotten a scholarship and that would enable you to buy a Ps3. j/k Seriously this is a great feature to have. Don't know why every game doesn't ave cross platform play.
@BeOneWithTheGun 20-100 grand a year is a little bit overstatement i think. Yeah sure, private schools can go high but even prestiges ones like USC and Stanford are at around 50-60k. Never a 100k (although I'm not gonna deny the possibility). I personally go to UCSD and tuition fee is at around 14k and that's a raise up from last year which was around 12.5k. So if you say 20-100k you are probably looking at food and books and etc (which is estimated to be around 30k for me including living costs).
I think when he says college he means Uni... and they are definitely not free in the UK! The A-level colleges that you can go to directly from school are free for school leavers, but to go to Uni and do a degree I believe you are looking at roughly £9000 per year (not exactly sure) to go...
you forgot the beer money to.
US collage and UK Uni are the biggest scams in existence. Promising jobs that aren't there and over educating students to the point where they are just a mess of facts and useless in real business environments. I sell books for a small business and have plenty of ideas to make money, I worked here straight after collage (free in the UK like junior collage in US). I get lots of chaps that come straight out of Uni with a degree and a stunning CV and they ask for work here! there is no jobs for most uni graduates, Businesses prefer experience! I have the job these graduates ask for and I have LOADS of money saved up in my account while these guys are looking for work and are £9000+ in debt! Not going to Uni was the best decision I ever made. My advice, get an Apprenticeship or start work at a small business, work your way from there. Get your foot in the door then you will be laughing when all your old classmates come out of uni or collage with massive debt and no work, I certainly am.....
It's not free in the UK jdfoster, by college he means their equivalent of University and it costs (in the next year or so) £9000 a year not including food and accommodation...
Yes but you only pay it back if you earn 20k a year and in instalments of £20 a month. I would say that's practically free!
@zealout - "college can pay for it self" But yet in your comment history you say that you are getting the MGS collection and many more games. zeal0us + 35d ago Great deal if you like MGS series, which I do. One of the many games I plan on buying. Your going to college but your mom still has to approve you getting M rated games...WTF 10 things about skyrim that might suck -10) my mom won't allow me to get the game due to an M rating : ( -9) another dumb*** FoxNews "fair" review -8)Fox turn something smalls as seeing a sideboob and blowing it out of proportion. 7-2) More Fox news/ half-*** reviews 1) Don't have the money to buy the game due to other expenses. #1.3 36d ago by zeal0us | View comment "I won't experience the benefit of steam" Your experience is already going to be awful on steam because you have dial up internet I still live in a area where dial up is the only thing available. CenturyLink to stubborn to give me internet b/c my house isn't within three miles of their only base in aurora,nc. Thank you CenturyLink. bots would be good for me #2 15d ago by zeal0us | View comment Your comment only had one intention and I hope the mods remove it.
Steam... ONLY ON PS3 and pc God I love PC/PS3 combination btw, I see Valve congratulating and prasing Sony a lot lately! Hopefully they will reward PS3 owners with great things in the future!
Now we see how quickly Valve's opinion can change. I just hope they don't start hating Sony again. >_>
Right? Every time I hear Gabe Newell and PS3 in the same sentence, I'm reminded of his remarks back in 2007
with LFD 1-2 on the same disk or a separate bluray????with all the dlc valve sees what sony has to offer now and likes it and that's great for us the gamers
Hey don't forget the Mac! PlayStation+PC+Mac....soon Android and iOS!
Dont you mean ONLY ON PC and select ps3 games?
To hardcore xbox only owners...why you mad? Get a ps3 if you want more open support for things. I remember people getting mad over Unreal Tournament 3 on ps3 having mod support and xbox360 not having it. I was like "well, just get if for ps3 if your pc cant run it as smooth." If not, then there is no need to be upset since this is already whats to be expected. It's like be being pissed my xbox360 doesn't play blu-ray...well duh they don't support that :/ Agree or Disagree if you Agree
Hey retard, I see you and other people ALWAYS saying, "Agree or Disagree if you Agree". That makes ZERO sense. You can't disagree if you agree. Next time just say Agree or Disagree with what I say.
I think they do it on purpose. Kinda like saying those who hit disagree do so because the truth hurts or they're hating. If you look at it with that frame of mind, it makes sense. Still douchey, but what can ya do. On topic, I ended up getting portal 2 on xbox cause PSN was down at the time. I guess ill check out steamworks with the next supported game that comes out.
@ above Lol it's only subtenko that does this I think, People are gradually beginning to accept it....
@JDfoster, there college is the quivilant of our Universities
College is only free if you're black. If you're white or god forbid, Asian, you're pretty much fucked. Prepare to destroy your parents life savings or finish school under a mountain of debt that won't be paid off until your 40s.
Yeah, Microsoft should be more open to stuff like this. As far as I can tell it would be a win-win situation for everybody involved. I don't really care on a personal level because I play all of my multiplats on the PC (especially any Valve game), but for those on the 360 it would be nice if Microsoft allowed Steamworks.
I'm so happy. Not only do we get Steam but cross play WITH KBM support (and Move) It'd be awesome if the game kept track of PC/console player stats for some good ole' bragging rights. You can really see that Valve wants to explore console gaming while retaining some of the freedoms/benefits of PC Gaming without having to "consolize" the experience.
Wait, there's move support or did I understand you wrong?
Yes there is move support :-)
Move and Keyboard/Mouse. Does it get any better than that? YES! Crossplay with PC gamers.
sweet. theres pros and cons to both ms's and sonys approach to their openness. This is definitely a plus for sony and their customers
offtopic: Counter Strike w/ Sharpshooter! *mind blown* edit: albeit still a bit bitter about Portal 2 not having Move support.
Portal would be even better with move support.
indeed :D portal 2 DLC
People need to realize that Microsoft are not being "d*** strict" about anything when it comes to this issue. Steam is a direct competitor to the LIVE brand. We have already seen the flood from GFWL to Steam, Steam on on Xbox would kill Xbox Live.
Is that why "exclusive xbla" games are on steam as well? And GFWL games being readily available on Steam too? MS is not EA. This isn't the Origin fiasco. To MS, Steam means more sales. Its because Live was designed as a closed structure so MS wouldn't lose any money 8and or so years ago when Live launched. That restriction really needs to be removed right now. Just imagine. CS:GO Xbox Vs PC Vs PS3... whoa.
That would be one shit talking lobby!
^^ would be awesome to have 3 team deathmatch (10v10v10) it would literally be a whole clan based on system lol add rewards fot each place the console is in concerning win or kills and i'd be on that game like a fat kid on cake
That would be good because then I could join a clan that had decent players of each platform in it... and we could easily identify the the dickless fanboys of each platform and go out of our way to show them the error of their ways!
Is that why "exclusive xbla" games are on steam as well? And GFWL games being readily available on Steam too? MS is not EA. This isn't the Origin fiasco. To MS, Steam means more sales. Its because Live was designed as a closed structure so MS wouldn't lose any money 8 or so years ago when Live launched. That restriction really needs to be removed right now. Just imagine. CS:GO Xbox Vs PC Vs PS3... whoa.
I've made the odd discovery that paying for LIVE Gold on the 360 for years, I've used the free services Steam and PSN for the overwhelming majority of my time gaming. My time on LIVE usually depends on when the latest Gears of War game has been released. I like that Valve seems to be very aware of the concerns Sony has about opening their online service to them. They said that they want to demonstrate to them that this will be mutually beneficial for Sony and Valve. I think that in general Valve has been very decent and generous to their customers and partners (well, Gabe was obviously a jerk to Sony regarding the PS3 early on, but he's gone much further than I ever imagined he would to make amends and work with them recently).
For the PS4 Sony should team up with Valve from the very start to recreate and redesign PSN.
I hope the do that. I like steam and psn.
Sony and valve should run steam so playstation and PC will be forever connected.
valve has successfully pulled the biggest face turn in the history of video games.
I agree to that. I just hope sony now seizes this opportunity and works closely with valve and hopefully we can see valve exclusive on the PS4. :D :D :D
the new and improved gabe newell!
Still fat though. J/K!!!
looking forward to the portal 2 DLC on ps3 the co-op mode was awesome cant wait for the co-op chambers one of the best games i've played
So does this mean free DLC for PC/PS3 and paid for 360? Like what happened with L4D(that might be the wrong game).
This is what Micro$oft get for wasting their time on limited exclusivity dlc deals on cod and skyrim when they could be doing something useful like this.
I am hoping for a future L4D PS3 release. =)
I don't know if L4D will ever make its way to PS3. I do know "Dead Island" looks really good and I'm looking forward to play it :D
I have steam for pc gabes just trying to drum up customers like any other company owner ,i think on consoles it would suck coupled with the constant updates it gets steam may kill psn and thats a good thing.
All I have to say about this is...YUS! The only thing that can make consoles better, is Steam. Steam is bumfuck amazing at EVERYTHING, so this is only a good thing. Nothing bad will follow at all, I can guarantee it.
Just imagine steam type sales on the PS3 :O God damn, this summer I spent so much money on the steam summer camp sale... >_>
Same here, but you have to admit that every purchase was worth it, right?
Yep! Totally worth every penny :)
I like to OWN actual prints of my games, no thanks...
I'm the same way, but when you can get digital copies of some games for an unbelievable price, it's hard to turn down. I have multiple copies of multiple games in digital and hard copy formats...
Unless you can actually buy PS3 games at Steam's PC prices then it's pointless. Thats all I care about. I actually pre order Warhammer 40K Space Marines for $35 on a sale one day, thats half the price of the console version.