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When Developers Fight, Gamers Lose -The Mind of Game

The Mind of Game Writes - "It has been rumored for months now but yesterday, in a statement from Turn 10 community manager Brian Ekberg, the rumors were finally confirmed. Forza Motorsport 4 will not feature any vehicles from one of the most prominent and revered automakers, Porsche. Why? Because the Porsche license is wholly owned by EA and they have decided not to sublicense it out to Turn 10 this time around. So, a manufacturer that has been a staple of the Forza franchise from the very beginning will no longer be a part of it, and that kills me."

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newleaf2301d ago

Screw you EA, I'm going home.

dark-hollow2300d ago

Seriously wtf EA????
This is so anti-competitive.
They should worry about making better NFS games than blocking everyone from sub-licensing

FighterJoe2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

Not sure why this is a suprise to many, EA has been playing games with the Porsche license ever since they got hold of it back in the 90's, MS has been bending backwards for years to get use of it in Forza but I guess they couldn't bend far enough this time. I will point out that MS has a couple licenses themselves (actually I can think of 3 off the top of my head) that they play games with and has directly affected make and model inclusions in rival software.

dark-hollow2300d ago

To get a lisence from a car manufacture so you can get royalties from sub licensing is one thing, but to abuse your license and block other developers no matter how they want the license is just anti-competitive.

Forza guys already tried everything they could to get porsches in forza 4, but alas...

"We’ve asked our contacts at EA to reconsider their position frequently and regularly over the last 18 months. We also reached out to various influential people in gaming to lobby on our behalf, and on your behalf, but that was to no avail.  
 
In our business, we stay friendly with all of the manufacturers and licensors necessary to deliver players rich and innovative automotive experiences. As you’d expect, this includes quite a few key people in Porsche circles. To make sure we tried everything, we consulted with these advocates and were happy to find they were already aware of the situation and lobbying from within on behalf of Forza 4--and, despite the result, we thank them for their efforts.  
 
While we respect EA’s need to run their business as they see fit, we’ve regularly collaborated in the past and hope we can find our way back to that approach. Forza had the exclusive license for all Ferrari cars, for example, on the Xbox and PC platforms. But at the end of the day, we’ve always found that we just weren’t willing to block other racing games from having Ferraris outright, as we believed that this would do nothing but hurt the racing ecosystem. 
 
I’m very sorry for all of this. Fans shouldn’t have to think about any of this – you should just be able to drive Porsches and Ferraris in the games you love. Porsche makes wonderful cars and I’m sorry that we won’t have them in Forza 4. As I mentioned earlier, we have added three RUF cars in Forza 4. RUF is a manufacturer in their own right, not simply an aftermarket mod shop—they completely remanufacture and enhance the models that they start from, and the results are unique, incredibly fast, and the cars look great. Losing more than 35 Porsche models is a lost opportunity for Porsche fans (as well as a lost opportunity to make future Porsche fans), but I hope that Forza 4 players understand and enjoy the new makes and models that have taken their place."

FighterJoe2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

Thats right, however MS has done the same even if it wasn't as severe and they wont admit it. I wont go into details but it stems from a contract made to a certain manufacturer who needed software licensed for their onboard electronic multifunction equipment (OS licensing). The got in return a (among other things) bunch of terms relating to time make exclusive and new model exclusives. It's all business (for EA too, they are playing a harder game), and no I am not refering to the Audi timed exclusive deal they had for Forza 3.

Si-Fly2300d ago

If I can't drive a Porsche in Forza then EA just lost any future purchases of their racing titles from me.

Hicken2300d ago

I'm gonna get called a fanboy for saying it, but where was all the anger when the same thing happened to GT?

Yes, it sucks, and I'm hating EA more and more- it's looking like my copy of BF3 is getting less likely, even as I spend hours each night playing BC2 in anticipation- and I feel for Turn10.

But I don't recall such outrage when Porsche was denied in GT5.

dark-hollow2300d ago (Edited 2300d ago )

Because two years ago forza had porsches but now suddenly they don't.
That, and I didn't care much because I thought we gonna get 1000 polished cars.
That, before the standard cars fiasco...

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