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Submitted by MicrocutsX2 1068d ago | news

Kojima’s FOX Engine Is Next-Gen Ready | GameBlurb

Gameblurb writes, "At the Konami's Gamers Day at NYC, Konami's Product Manager for the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection gave us a bit info on Kojima's FOX Engine." (Dev, Fox Engine, Next-Gen, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

ATi_Elite  +   1068d ago
Whose Next Gen cause Graphically it looks just like FarCry2 to me! I wonder will it have the awesome grass fire that FarCry2 had cause that was really cool.
Gray-Fox-Type0  +   1068d ago
what this engine looked like current gen games...nothing special about it.
SilentNegotiator  +   1068d ago
A little early to make a judgement call either way. More important than graphics when it comes to engines themselves is efficiency and development options/tools.

One early demo isn't going to show that.
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ATi_Elite  +   1067d ago
Yeh i agree..

I compared it to FarCry 2 and got mad crazy disagrees but seriously it doesn't look anything special that i would consider next Gen like BF3!
MaxXAttaxX  +   1067d ago
@ATi_Elite
You got "crazy disagrees" because you said it looked like FarCry2, despite the title saying next-gen "READY".

That screen is from a current project.
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Shane Kim  +   1067d ago
There are engines that are over a decade old and can still look pretty good to this day. It's about the dev tools and how to further optimise the engine.
leahcim  +   1067d ago
its a PICTURE!!!! you have to see it in actual movement to say what you are all saying
showtimefolks  +   1067d ago
i will put it like this
if we want to see a huge jump in graphics and in performance than we should be willing to pay 599 plus but as we saw with ps3/sony that 599 price for a console won't happen.

so next gen won't be as huge jumo as ps2 to ps3 was.

now if the companies actually wait till 2015 and i do mean nothing before 2015 we could see a huge jump and a decent price point

but MS will jump the gun to get a head start we can all bet on that and we will all most likely win that bet

and i am glad kojima took his time to make sure it was next gen ready to deliver a MGS game at launch for next gen consoles or maybe a year after launch
Bay  +   1068d ago
I'd say the Unreal Engine is next-gen ready, what with the Samaritan demo and all...

Not sure about Kojima's FOX engine though. Looks like current gen games, although there hasn't been much games or demos for it yet.
zinki33  +   1068d ago
Yes ,.. maybe,.. but to get that thing running at stable framerate in gameplay mode,.. We will probably have to wait 3 or more years, if we expect consoles to be affordable to most gamers,.. It was certainly impressive.

Can anyone link what rig that was running on @reso@fps?

@fluffydelusions (DOWN) Thanx bro!
lol,.. ok than,.. damn,.. lololol never mind consoles in 3 years, to get so affordable,..
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fluffydelusions  +   1068d ago
Well I know it had 3x580's in it...
Voxelman  +   1067d ago
1920x1080 60fps
3X GTX580

But Epic said that it was unoptimised and they said could get it down to 1 GTX580. Add in lower profile OS and less API overhead of consoles and it should be doable by a ~$500 console in late 2012.
nickjkl  +   1067d ago
wait what no

put a gtx 580 in a console in 2012

do you want them to over heat or something
Voxelman  +   1067d ago
@ nickjkl I actually meant to put "2013" lol but no not a GTX 580 but a GTX 660/HD 7770 equivalent should be about right which should offer similar performance as a 580 once tweaked and optimised for consoles, at much lower power and heat.

Nvidia are promising significant reductions in power usage and heat from their next arch thanks new power management and transistor design and going down to 28nm should offer insane performance per watt.

And given the more likely date of late 2013/14 for Sony and MS's next consoles and you are looking at a generation of GPUs past even that.
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MaxXAttaxX  +   1067d ago
3x GTX 580s???
That's $1500. No thanks.
junk3d  +   1068d ago
Man I really want to see this on the PC and see if it takes advantage of DX 11.
DankJemo  +   1068d ago
I wonder if we are going to see this engine first in an MGS game, or if he's got something bigger planned for it. I know Kojima has been talking about other projects recently. Either way, it is going to be an interesting bit of information when it finally comes out.
zero_cool  +   1068d ago
Id say the fox engine rivals the best game engines in the gaming industry thus far!
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cj1pate101  +   1068d ago
Can you say owned nub?
You sir = epic fail. Your that type of person that can see god waving his hand in your face but you would still ignore it. Last time I checked the only thing they have shown was screen shots of the engine. Have you worked with this piece of flop yet? I don't think so kid. The best part is next gen consoles will have 4 gigs of ddr3 ram and a graphics card no way close to what I have in my computer. So while your games look like this =/..Pc will have evolved to much greater heights then this bs. O and btw my graphics card is a 4 gigs of ddr5 video ram while ur console 256MB of RAM and 256MB of video RAM -.-. Epic fail kid epic fail.
BubbleSniper  +   1068d ago
how fast is your clock speeds on your gpu? if you dont mind me asking
cj1pate101  +   1068d ago
How do you disagree with a console having 256 mb of ram and a computer having a dedicated 4 gigs of vid ram.
colombiankilla01  +   1067d ago
I think people disagreed with you because you sound like a 12 year old little queer! Epic fail epic fail epic fail ! STFU
Bonobo12345  +   1067d ago
@cj1pate101

Ha! he made a valid comment, an engine doesn't have to have anything to do with hardware, it's software and can be made to run on various platforms, his point is valid since all we have seen is a screenshot! no one know the details yet.

He just stated his point of view but what confuses me is that you saw this as your cue to insert pre thought out argument in a completely pointless circumstance.

grow up kid, I have quite a beastly PC but I don't find the need to go around the nets inserting pointless arguments where they don't belong.

You fail gamers, the industry and most importantly, yourself.
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MaxXAttaxX  +   1067d ago
They have serious insecurity issues.

He doesn't know anything about it, yet he calls it a "piece of flop".
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Truth  +   1067d ago
it is a very nice looking game engine and I'm sure in the right developers hands with the right hardware it will be amazing. Don't forget Kojima was the first to truly push the PS3 with MGS4 and it still holds up pretty good even today. And wow, so you have a nice gaming rig. Who cares? I have an E46 M3 with headers, under drive pullies, flashed ECU and possibly a HPF turbo build coming in the next few months. So yeah, you're computer can emulate your pimply face with it's hardcore, pwnage, epic, l33t ( insert other immature crap adverbs )graphics cards, but my car is cooler, faster and picks up more women than yours. Have fun exploding in your pants when you're explaining your rig to your D&D friends, while I'm railing chicks in the club. :D
user858621  +   1068d ago
future games multiplatform confirmed
Gamer_Z  +   1068d ago
Idk Fox Engine looks kinda cartoony like shrek, I think ID tech 5 and Frostbite 2 are true next gen engines.
cj1pate101  +   1068d ago
id tech 5 is john carmack selling out pc gamers...
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zero_cool  +   1068d ago
Haters always gonna hate & never have anything intelligent to say in the least!...what is this world coming too?

Cheers Gamers & Happy Gaming!
cj1pate101  +   1068d ago
Dude what didn't you understand the only thing you saw was in game pictures. You are already declaring this to be the best current gen engine you nub..? Do you not see the irony in your statement?
MaxXAttaxX  +   1067d ago
You say he hasn't seen anything but a screenshot and NEITHER HAVE YOU. Yet here you are, calling it a "piece of flop" when you don't know much about it yourself. Hypocrite.
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Sticky__Rice  +   1068d ago
Nothing extraordinary, but nothing bad either. As for people talking about MGS5. MGS5, If they ever did it.. would be using this engine i would assume, and would be multiplatform. Konami wants more money so... no Sony exclusive for MGS5 I wouldn't expect to see an MGS5 until late 2014 or early 2015. The production time for these games are 2-3 years+.
yamzilla  +   1068d ago
lol...it is not even current gen, it looks nowhere near crysis 1 from 2007!

consoles are last gen, or really two gens old, pc is current/next gen all at once all the time!
Jack_DangerousIy  +   1068d ago
You never quit do you? You amuse me.
Jappy-k7  +   1068d ago
it's from Kojima Productions and i trust them!
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auen1  +   1068d ago
just give us mgs 5 already :-O
Voxelman  +   1067d ago
I want a new IP myself limiting Kojima to one franchise is just sad.
auen1  +   1065d ago
i wouldn't complain about a new ip, but with the way mgs4 ended, i think he can take the mgs franchise in a different direction. i'm a big fan of the mgs universe, which is why i'd like to see the franchise continue, even if it is with mostly different characters.
azshorty2003  +   1067d ago
I would certainly hope its for the next generation. because of how late it was announced this generation, my immediate impression was that it was for new consoles.
kasser  +   1067d ago
dont judge from the graphics shown. judge from the capabilities of the engine and we haven't seen much in-action.

BTW, even nowadays, we have games running on old engines such as id tech 3 (quake 3) and unreal 2. Because these engines are flexible in increasing their graphics capabilities but limited to some degree.

UNREAL is a commercial engine and it is too strong and provides alots of features because the engine will be used for lots of game types and will be used by various developers. FOX engine is not commercial and so far it will be used by kojima team and they can ignore the limitation of the engine and focus on its strong points.
Gordo789  +   1067d ago
great..... how about some games?
Braid  +   1067d ago
If this is going to be the next gen graphics l say we should keep using our consoles for like, another five years. As long as the leap is not that big l'm not going to let the dust cover my console.

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