Sony has technology and game line-up on its side, says EA's Gibeau
For both Sony and Nintendo sack lets hope it does well. They have both invested a lot in mobile gaming. If the vita doesn't do well I can see a lack in a successor from both parties.
What else could EA say... they have been in bed with Sony for some time. As for the PS Vita, it looks like a great handheld, so i hope it succeeds ... but it has stiff competition from the smartphones, witch are getting more powerful each year.
The smartphones can have all the power they want but if they don't have good games then what use is that power? Even if Vita won't be that powerful the devs will make sure that it will still look and play better on a dedicated portable.
"The smartphones can have all the power they want but if they don't have good games then what use is that power?" On the Iphone you can find good games already... maybe not as good as the handhelds... but that is a question of when. As time passes more and more software companies are starting to make Iphone games... in 2 years we will probably have the Iphone6, Iphone7, Galaxy3, Galaxy4, or other Android phones, then we can compare the games on the smartfones and on the handhelds. One other thing that you are forgetting, in spite of the Iphone (or Galaxy) being double the price of the PS Vita, games on the Iphone are much, much cheaper then on the handhelds, many of them being free. In 2-3 years we can have this conversation again.
Why do I have to wait 2-3 years for a good game to come out of a smartphone when I can have it now when the Vita releases? I don't care for cheap games (I have an Ipod Touch btw), I care for playing great games. I won't even feel comfortable playing with games on a smarphone or an Ipad because it obviously isn't made for gaming as a first priority.
the ps vita doesn't need to worry about smart phone competition because all the REAL NON casual games will be on it. If say, like a new DOOM game goes on both handhelds for $30, how much casual gamers will buy it?! let alone pay for a game thats over $10?! lol! non that I know... Point being, vita will end up having higher sales for the more bigger budget games.
do you seriously think im gonna get a Uncharted , Resistance , little big planet , modnation , killzone experience on a phone ? yeap thats what i thought
Who the heck want's to put in the time money and effort into making a high budget AAA game for a PHONE?
"For both Sony and Nintendo SACK lets hope it does well." That made me laugh ^_^ Take note people, if your gonna make spelling mistakes at least make them funny. OT: If the worst comes to worst Sony are also investing in the tablet market. They could easily produce a Playstation branded tablet if demand was there. I actually think that would be awesome if they added wired/wireless support for DS3. @iamnsuperman don't apologise, it happens and it makes people smile when they are funny.
Sorry about that. Not sure how I managed that
I chuckled as well Chaostar. For f**k's sack. We've all dine it.... hoho It's all good superman..have a bubble Now what was this article about.
Add wireless DS3 support? You mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watc...
With Nvidia's Tegra line and the new APUs from AMD the mobile space is about to heat up. Be looking for "gaming phones" coming your way. Once that happens you will see the death of the handheld (slowly) start to occur.. until Sony and Nintendo release their own gaming phones. :)
Sony already has a gaming phone, the Xperia Play. But there is a problem with making phones more powerful, the battery technology isn't keeping up. We already have many smart phones that can barely last a day of use. Start using them for serious gaming and you'll probably not make it until lunch time. If your gaming handheld runs out of battery then you just can't play games, no big deal. But for many people a dead cell phone is a much more serious issue, especially with certain fruity brands that don't allow you to easily swap batteries.
I need the battery on my phone. Plus the Vita has inputs that no phone will have.
The reception and general buzz from gamers and critics has been stronger for Vita, for sure. It's looking to influence the future of portable gaming with its innovative features, flexible development framework and high-end production values through the impressive hardware. With the 3DS... I just haven't heard people talking about things like that. Don't get me wrong, the 3DS is a great handheld, and some of the games look great so far, but all it seems to be is the same DS with better graphics and an addional 3D effect that people seem to be complaining about. There's less excitement about the device aside from remakes such as Snake Eater and Ocarina of Time. How the Vita will do on the market is another thing, but as a modern portable gaming device, Sony has hit a home run. Developers are noticing this and so are gamers.
Looks like Nintendo will once again lose 3rd party support but still have a strong first party lineup for the 3DS. I myself prefer buying the Vita.
This isnt true at all. NIntento portables always have immense third party support. The only difference is The 3ds has more third party support than the ds ever had this early. And its only growing. Look at level 5 for the example. They have at least 5 3ds games in development where maybe for the ds they had 1 right away Honestly by the end of this I dont know who will have the most exclusives
The only thing that could save the 3DS is Mario. But then Mario could probably save any system. A good Mario game that is.
fail... you forgot Pokemon. All they have to do now is announce Grey version and 3DS sales will spike, it's more effective than Mario in terms of sales.
Also Mario Kart too this game spiked the DS sales and will do the same for the 3DS. I think the PSV will sell better than the PSP but I think at its price it will not start to sell well until it drops in price as people dont want to buy a portable console for the same as a home console. I expect the 3DS to beat the total number of sales of the DS as Nintendo now have a big game line up and a price that people will go for.
People still play Pokemon? Not being a wise guy, but I didn't realize it was still popular.
I don't know... a NEW Zelda may do wonders for it. They seem to be to fixated on porting old games and putting them in 3D though.
Nuff said. But I guess they'll label this guy a fanboy for stating the obvious. Sony has been handing free kits to the indies and made the platform extremely easy as well as afordable to develop for. This is on top of everything else they got going on with their network intergration and what such a thing brings to the table. I said it before and ill say it again. Its not the same, things arent the same anymore so dont bring history into it.
Things are more or less exactly the same in terms of perception, pricing,ect and history dictates the future. You forget EA was predicting the same thing with the gba, the ds, IE the end of nintendo I wouldnt label him a fanboy for giving his OPINION. Which is exactly what your doing
3DS because aside from Mario I dont see anything else interesting me. Vita on the other hand seems to have more games i prefer but Im not sure whether SONY will keep on releasing quality games for the system after 2-3 years!
Ya Its Sony They can support any system for 10 years They already said that they learned a lot from PSP. So Now U can expect too much from PS Vita First Day buy for me
This could be Sony's PS2
You actually got that backwards. Sony gives better quality games as the console gets older.
I agree completely but for the PSP the games stopped coming. I bought mine in 2008 and after playing the games that were already released by that time, there havnt been that many games. Recent favorites for me are GOW:GOS, FIFA games but my most favorite was MGS:PW!
The problem with the psp that Sony diverted a lot of developers into the PS3, but it still does have a decent game library and it's still selling and being supported after all these years. If you look at the devs that has signed up for making Vita games you know that this portable isn't a rush job.
The only console Sony failed to support, was PSP Go, because they learned digital download only is not what they were expecting. PS VIta as the savior of the next generation portable gaming, it is obvious it will have 100% of the Support with a lot of quality games.
Can't Nintendo bank on new IPs for the 3DS? Just asking.
nintendo and new IPs? are you crazy?!!?! j/k. But thats the reason i havent had any nintendo products in a long while.
they have new IPs
really which one are those?
A lot of people including myself will never be dedicated to smartphone gaming due to the lack of thumbsticks and face buttons.
i think EA are obviously planning better titles than what they did on 3DS so in all fairness EA and most 3rd partys get behind sony consoles alot more and why i ask i mean nintendo helped a stagnent market recover with wii and ds that helped 360/ps3 actually get sales and this is what 3rd partys do to nintendo i think nintendo should be buying dev houses to make the same games sony makes like GT5 ect and stop being the same old nintendo they need to buy that company that went bust making that james bond game on 360 and that racing game studio that went bust they have talent there games just didnt sell nintendo need to start buying into massive western/eastern talent and get the most out of there consoles graphically and socially quick If i were to guess id say nintendo will turn things around and dominate with there 1st party games i think but we will wait and see 3rd partys say nintendo always dominate with there software and when they give 3rd partys a chance they do this Nintendo should say right only 1st party and 2nd party games on out system and have very strict conditions on quality control simple
I believe part of the reason why 3rd party houses do this to Nintendo is because Nintendo puts it on themselves crafting hardware only they can master well. I mean after the super nintendo system it was all going downhill from there, n64? Cmon that next to an easy platform like the playstation at the time beg the question. Then you had the gamecube which due to its,format couldn't get a slice of gta fever which at the time was high and pushing units. Then the wii came along, now while successful in its own right, a failure in another. 3rd companies arent seeing the sales Nintendo themselves are seeing with their popular franchises on their own hardware. You just cant ask these guys who are used making primarly and mainly hardcore games to breakout and start going causal with their franchises. That takes time and effort which not many are willing to give. Whats next the wiiu? Seriously? Well ill just have say lets just wait and see. When Nintendo innovates with the hardware, they are usually the ones to succeed with it over everyone else. Both sales and reviews dictate this, which is why you are likely to get a mix bag of showelware and remakes of old games. I mean...
@ stealth Bro things arent the same anymore, look around you for a sec. Phones are now in the picture as well just eating away small chunks of market share with small games. Than theres also the fact that Sony has acknowledges its past mistakes from shifting development resources to the way they conducted their psp business. The new platform was built for easy and fast pace workloads at an affordable rate. The support is abundant and the vision is clear, all nintendo can do in this case is play the price game with Sony because they know they can afford to. Not saying Nintendo is doom by any means, but to say things are going to be as they were before when there are clearly signs of changes happening is silly. Past dictates history, true, but this only furter supports my point in when I say things arent the same anymore. I mean just look at everything Sony is addressing and how they are doing things now as oppose to how they did them before. Not the same. Not saying Nintendo is going to fail, I am however saying like this guy at EA saying Sony has a better shot than Nintendo this time around. Back then, the psp had buzz, but didnt have the support to support such buzz. Thus succuming to some form of failure, now thats changed. Now not only does the new psp carry a different name and image but in addition to buzz like the did, it also has the support as well. Those little things do make a difference and can very well dictate where things go from here. I dont waste my time looking at the history because I know Sony has experienced it first hand and is ofcourse working with it mind, while mainly looking ahead of a simple vision others might have.
There's no doubt that Sony will do much better this time around in terms of garnering stronger 3rd party support, but the Vita, much moreso than the 3DS and much like its predecessor, is fighting in two different sectors where you can argue that the alternatives are better. You say that Sony has learned its lesson, but I still see the same sony that's trying to go after the handheld and smartphone/tablet PC market with a jack-of-all-trades device. Not to mention that the Vita is now in direct competition with the Xperia Play. So the Vita is not only in competition with the 3DS and every modern smartphone/tablet PC, but with the Play as well. I don't see the 3DS selling like the DS, because the DS is up there with the PS2 in terms of commercial, but because of the rut Sony has yet again put its handheld inbetween two separate markets, I don't see the Vita overtaking the 3DS either.
Sony has indeed place its handheld in two markets, but thats how they function. Just because the vita is now in competition,with many devices, it dont mean is bound for the same fate. The vita unlike the psp is actually built to withstand such a fragmentation if you wanna call it that. What the vita offers, is why is more likely succeed than fail, the psp was at first a device build ahead of its time with no sense of direction and support. Thats the difference. The vita on the other is a device build for the market its in, and has a straight forward vision along with the support. For example, Sony this time around doesnt have to try and sell hollywood studies on a new umd format because thats not in the picture anymore. So the focus now is strickly game oriented from the start with the support in mind. Also the psp had many reasons and flaws that kept it from being snatched up by many. Of all those many reasons, a good 90% of them have been addressed with the vita. People wanted 2 sticks, well? Guess what, now they have them. Whats wrong with Sony covering their @sses with new inputs like a touchscreen and touchpads? They are looking at whats trending and wotking and utilizing it with what they are already good at. So if Sony decides to screw Nintendo all they have to do is simply bring over those 99cent games to their now compatible platform with everything else they got going, and then what? The vita is a jack of all trades device, but unlike the psp is not being promoted like one. Rather an advance gaming handheld with rich support instead. Thats the difference here. As for the xperia play, thats just a phone with controls under one carrier (thus far)with little to no support. The vita on the other hand is a Playstation device period, not a certified mobile device, but a playstation device being catered to by many studios whom solely and primarly do game business. Apple has the iphone and ipads I suppose they are competing with themselves. Nintendo has the ds and 3ds on the market I suppose they too are competing with themselves as well. Sony can build any type of device it wants being a simple or a jack of all trades type and still sell it well. Doesnt matter, all that matters is how is marketed and pitched to the people. Its all in the massage and the software ofcourse. So if you ask ill say Sony is fit to better in this environment than Nintendo is. A price drop in 5 months of release? Rumors about adding things the vita already has namely a 2nd stick? I mean cmon somethings gotta give now.
Vita will allow me to play Nintendo like games, smart phone/tablet like games, and home console like games in just one system. Sold! :)
Honestly, I think this is the reason that the Vita will do well because it seems they realize that small, bite-sized games that do well for iOS can be done on the Vita too. All Sony has to do is offer people the choice like Apple does on iTunes for small games or bigger games and price it accordingly. The Vita will print money then.
With all those games coming out for the PSV. I don't see it failing.
Don't forget the PSV can also be a social media device (not a phone) that alone is a plus in functionality.
phone battery life sucks so i dont game on them for real. ipads and tablets is what the vita is battling. the 3ds is battling ipads and tablets but also cell phones as the small brain age type games and cooking mamma type games nintendo makes a lot of are on the smart phones. Also 3ds will have crap online, no cross game voice chat and such. vita is xbl experience and 3ds will be wii online experience. Im sorry but now is the time for those x360 owners out there to put there money where there mouth is and buy the system with the better online and connectivity and such. vita will have cloud saving, cross pplaform play with psn games and such. vita goes beyond what a smartphone can do as far as game features and such. 3ds is still that clunky wannabe kid friendly fisher price online and mindset. dont buy the 3ds and make nintendo learn they need to change there way of thinking as far as hardware. If the 3ds was what the vita is now then it would be perfect but since its lacking all of that its pretty bad.
The 3DS isn't being marketed, nor is its hardware intended to compete with smartphones and tablet PCs. Despite the squabble between Apple and Nintendo, the 3DS is strictly a handheld and the I-Pad/I-Phone is strictly a tablet PC/smartphone. Your concern should be more directed towards Vita, as that's the product that's aiming for most of the mobile sector.
"Your concern should be more directed towards Vita, as that's the product that's aiming for most of the mobile sector." but on that very same token the 3DS is not doing anything to compete with those handhelds, but yet Sony has addressed that very segment. Its not anything that seperates the two between the 3DS an the PSVita both are still in the very same market for handhelds. The very fact that Sony has the "Playstation Suite" to be offered as an option on the PSVita is why Sony is exactly more Options expanded with in the Mobile space that many are pointing out. You cannot have it both way's, you cannot say that Sony is not promoting a handheld for this part of the game space an will have a very rough time with Ipad's an Ipods when Sony is addressing that very challenge, an Nintendo is not adressing it, you are saying Sony will have more trouble, than Nintendo when Nintendo is not doing anything to adress that very segment that's coming into this very market. Its not just about this part of the market anymore, why do you think both Sony an Nintendo have talked about the Ipods an Ipads an Android smartphones an Tablets coming in to this very market? It would be one thing is the smartphones an Tablets were not anywhere near the capabilities as the dedicated game handhelds, but that's not the case the tablets an smartphones all have GPU's that are quite powerful, most all of them outperform the PSP an the DSLight, think about that 3D GPU's in smartphones that can outperform what the PSP an the DSlight could do! yes no dedicated controls built in but bluetooth controls work just as well. the sales number's for these smartphones an tablets are many times that over the dedicated game handhelds per Quarter. there is just so many more of them the 3rd party developers are not ignoring that trend also, EPIC games an IDSOFT an unity all make game engines that work on these smartphones an tablets. those very same game engines work on the 3DS an PSVita, where the PSVita addresses this issue is the very same .99 cent game's on the smartphones an tablets can be put on the PSVita also. Why because Sony has indeed made a unified Software platform that is set to work across the Smartphones, Tablets an PSVita..that is the Playstation Suite. Nvidia Tegra is already certified for Playstation Suite, an so is the PSvita. Nintendo has no such platform for the 3DS.
Would you give up your PC for a gaming console just because it has a browser, Netflix, and other such features? Expectedly, your answer would be "no" because a console does not make the use of a PC obsolete even though it shares some features with that product. In fact, those shared features that the PC possesses are far and away better utilized on that platform with the addition of having even more features than their console counterparts. So, if the previous statement is true, what makes the handheld sector any different? Why would any consumer consider buying a Vita over an I-phone or Android smartphone if those products not only have the same features AND implements them a lot better, but also has features the Vita does not have? Do you people really believe that if you buy a Vita you will have NO need for a smartphone or tablet PC? Really? Because if you do I suggest you study up on economic definition of "substitute good".
once again you are skirting this issue,the issue is not so much as a replacement for such devices because, that's not what it's designed for. You seem to be so caught up in "It has to offer" instead of what it's offering! The problem with what Idea an your trying to point has really, no weight the Iphone an the Tablets may Have powerful chipset's but they Also are not developed "mainly" for the way handheld game console is made for in this market. as for this statement "Do you people really believe that if you buy a Vita you will have NO need for a smartphone or tablet PC? Really? Because if you do I suggest you study up on economic definition of "substitute good". I can ask you the same thing in the Gaming sector why buy an Iphone or a Ipad or Android if what your going to mainly do is game on them? You CAN NOT HAVE IT BOTH WAY'S, ONCE AGAIN WHAT YOUR TRYING TO POINT OUT AS A WEAKNESS IN THE Vita is also the very Weakness that Nintendo has with their Handhelds, If so once again Sony has put out the Playstation Suite that does exactly what your Question about the Viability of Vita..but you dismiss this very same thing about Nintendo. If your going to say that Well Nintendo 1st party software makes sure their Viable, that very same thing could be said of Sony, You may say that Sony's 1st party efforts do not sell as much as Nintendo. Maybe so but they do not have to sell as much as Nintendo. Its Nice if they did i would imagine Sony would like them too, but the point is Sony has taken the smartphone an Tablet market not lightly an put out the very thing you once again Question, Sony is putting the Playstation Suite on Android Devices 2.3+ an already Tegra 2 an greater Devices are already certified, the people with smartphones an Tablets can play those games, while Some other Gamer's may want more out of their Handheld. The Vita is not meant to replace, Its meant to be what it is ,just like the 3DS their handheld game Machines.
i wander will this new ds handheld coming be annnounced at there show in september help it anymore, we know its gonna have another circle pad and its loosing the 3D part aswell, maby they will beef up the power also? vita looks great tho aswell altough handhelds are not my thing i think they can both have there place in the market and will sell well in all countrys
2012 hardware/software VS. 2005 hardware/software. Who would've thunk?
I can't see the vita failing
Me neither. With great tech at a great price and a great list of games only a fanboy would say that the vita would fail. In my opinion where Nintendo screwed up was with price (hence the price drop) and launch titles (hence Nintendos holiday lineup). Sony isnt going to make the same mistakes as Nintendo with the price and launch titles. Anyways i am off to read all the comments and report all the trolls. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Ninty fans should be thankful that Sony is stepping up to the plate. This means from here on now Ninty should bring their "A-game" also. Without Sony pricing the Vita aggressively, Ninty would still be ripping them off their $$$. Imagine a system that maybe is only worth $150 is being pushed to the consumers throat for $250 w/o any compelling games to play on it.
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