The Fall Xbox 360 dashboard update has been revealed from Microsoft and it's looking very good indeed with gaming classics and films on demand.
Yes Crimson Skies was one of my Favorite game for the Xbox It was my second Favorite Flight game ever Warhawk It better but only because of Technology Seriously If you like Warhawk on the PS3 and have a 360 download Crimson skies!
Crimson Skies was a great game.
I wonder if they have worked on adding any additional functionality to these old XBOX games?
They managed to work online co-op and multiplayer into some of the arcade classics. It'd be nice if we could get some online co-op or multiplayer for the original Halo over Xbox Live....
Probably just wishful thinking
crimson skies sucks buy a PS3 and play beyond instead of adding on beyond
Don't 'bag on a game just because it was released before you were born. Crimson Skies was a great game. Played thru once and have been thinking of picking it up again...
We need a sequal to this (as well as Beyond Good and Evil)
awesome now microsoft can over charge xbots by letting them buy there over price hard drive..lmao..
As a PS3 owner, I would like to appologize for BestGamerAlive's comment. what a tool. Crimson Skies was a great game. Halo one would be a great one to replay too, but dont most people who have an xbox 360 have the first halo from their original xbox library? i mean i DONT have a 360 and i have the first Halo....
So, I bought my PS3 on November 2nd when the 40gb came out. I arrived @ Wal Mart to purchase it @ 6AM cuz for some reason I thought they would sell out fast. Needless to say, they didn't... I know everyone will say just to go with the system you like (and I do like PS3) but Xbox seems to be crushing PS3. I just DO NOT WANT ANOTHER DREAMCAST on my hands. Nothing sucks more than spending all that money on a system/ games, only to see it discontinued.
So here are my pro's and con's for each system:
* Cheaply replaceable Hard Drives (My friend gets 180GB's free @ work)
* Ability to run Linux (If my computer ever crashes....I guess)
* Bluetooth compatible with my keyboard/ mouse.
* Free Wi-Fi
* Multi-Platform Games
* Free, yet horrible Online Service. (Yeah, I know.. IT'S FREE, so was Net Zero!)
* Not interested in any PS3 exclusives
* Seems like every Multi-Plat game scores lower for frame-rate probs.
* Danger of Discontinuation (Let's face it guys, it really is)
* Awkward feeling Controllers (Feels like it's gonna pop outta my hands
XBOX 360 Pro's:
* Large Game Library
* Exclusives that I actually like (Bioshock, Halo3, Gears...)
* Great Online play
* Now offering HDMI Output (Important to me)
* No Danger of Discontinuation (till the next XBOX)
* (Supposedly) Superior GPU
* Awesome Feeling Controllers
* I've always hated Microsoft (sounds stupid, but it's true)
* Ring of Death (Of the 3 XBOX's I've played, all have malfunctioned)
* No Wi-Fi!
* Outrageously priced Hard Drives
* 2.4GHZ Contollers interfere with my other equipment
* Bill Gates charges you for Online play! Huh?
* Gay design
Help! What do you think? I gotta make up my mind by December 2nd, before the 30 day return period... Decisions, decisions....
WOW MS..WHAy TO GO.
Keep up the good work
Cool updates indeed but I wan't to hear about the other features.
Look at the pathetic Droids that hit disagree with you. They are the best at running down the list and hitting disagree with everyone that don't own PS3s. LOL there wasn't even anything to disagree with, huh?
all i want in this update is to get the video marcktplace in uk
I want the marketplace also in uk
well it says that video marketplace is close for the uk might not make it for the 4th dec, cool that u can download xbox 1 games, i can finaly play fable, ready for fable 2, but still there isnt really all that info that we want.
Good job... What's next? Ninja Gaiden Black as a downloadable?!
sweet i forgot that one, havent played that, i need to get an ellite now.
AWESOME, might download Fable then.
Damn! another nail to firmly hammer in the SONY coffin. Just think about it for a second guys. Sure, there are millions of Halo fans, but just think of all those who are still new to the franchise! As soon as this hits the Xbox Live marketplace, I think we all can envisage previous download records BROKEN.
I think this particular article has sealed the deal for me. After deciding to wait for the PS3 and not buy a 360 (what a waste of time that has been), I'm going to trade in this waste of space and get an ELITE. 4UCK THIS!!
There is no Sony coffin you muppet. I am sure you'll get on fine with a 360 anyway. I reckon the Halo community of 12 year old trashtalkers is just up your street.
there's no need to get personal here mate (I'd slapbox you in front of your girl), I'm just venting some of my frustration that I'm experiencing with my PS3.
Basically, it's S#IT!!
I spend much more time watching blu-rays nowadays than play games (which is not the reason I bought the fvcker for).
If you enjoy playing s#it games, then by all means play the PS3. I reccomend it.
I'm a SONY fan, but even I can see that MS and Xbox Live are leading the way when it comes to online support.
Only a muppet could disagree.........andy
I play Blu Ray Movies too, but here are the games I play;
Super Stardust HD > Geometry Wars
Ratchet and Crank > Kameo
Motorstorm > Is there a 360 only off roader?
R:FOM > Halo 3 (single player campaign)
Fifa 08 = Fifa 08
Heavenly Sword > Is there an equivalent on 360, maybe Dead Rising ?
Eye of Judgement > again, no equivalent, perhaps Uno LOL
Tekken 5 > Dead or Alive 4
As far as the future titles;
Uncharted > Tomb Raider Legend
GT5 > Forza
There are some 360 games which do not have a PS3 equivalent;
Hitman Blood Money
Rainbow Las Vegas
Moto GP 07
and then there are the multiplatforms which we can all get anyway;
Realistically, you can't throw that excuse around anymore. Athough the 360 library is much larger, many of the games are samey and easily forgettable, and of the must haves or nearly must haves, most now have PS3 alternatives that play at least as good, if not better, than the counterparts
So, am I the muppet, or have you not been to your gameshop recently and spend too much time watching movies?
give it up andy!
TRUST me, I'm a bigger SONY fan than you could EVER be. But I'm just realistic, you're still stuck in the past mate.
the PS3 is now a laughing stock in the video games industry. whether it's hardware sales or software sales, it just AINT CUTTIN IT! and with the games that you just mentioned, I can see why.
Wow, the best rebuttal you can come up with is some smart arsed comment regarding sales figures. Fantastic!
how could a sony/playstation fan possibly hate the PS3 right now? The price has gone down, theres good games coming out, it's online infrastructure is pretty damn good for just being 1 year old and free. How the [email protected]
Ratchet not good enough? Folklore not good enough? Warhawk not good enough? Heavenly Sword not good enough? Wow, just fukin wow lol.
I'm sorry for the words, but calling yourself a real playstation fan is absolutely insulting, and therefore I dont mind you selling it (if you didnt lie, which is probably what happened here), cos thats one less idiot I'll see online. Cya, [email protected]
Using your comparisons and metacritic let us compare.
Super Stardust HD vs. Geometry Wars
SSHD - 84, GW - 86. GW Wins. Super Stardust is an unheard of game. Geometry wars is branching out and is in high demand. Wii is getting their own version soon.
Ratchet and Crank vs. Kameo
R&C-89, Kameo - 79. R&C. Xbox 360 is lacking in this genre.
Motorstorm vs. Is there a 360 only off roader?
Motorstorm - 82, We can throw in DiRT (which is multiplatform) is better at 83, Flatout might be the closest thing at 80. How about on road, PGR4 vs... ? currently released game?
R:FOM vs Halo 3 (single player campaign)
R:FOM - 86, Halo 3-94. Please. Single player campaign for Halo 3 was exactly what I wanted. This game wrapped up the story arc that had been started, successfully. And this is an unfair comparison since we're ending a story, unlike Resistance is starting one.
Heavenly Sword vs Is there an equivalent on 360, maybe Dead Rising ?
HS - 79, DR - 85. Dead Rising was better than HS.
Eye of Judgement > again, no equivalent, perhaps Uno LOL
Maybe if we're all still M:tG nerds. The equipment and upkeep costs for this game are going to get expensive. It is a neat toy.
Tekken 5 > Dead or Alive 4
T5-82, DoA-85. Xbox 360 wins.
As far as the future titles;
Uncharted > Tomb Raider Legend
GT5 > Forza
So let's throw out some other Xbox games? Mass Effect perhaps? Maybe Orange Box? (since it is currently an Xbox 360 exclusive, I know it will be released onto the PS3).
Oh yes, Ace Combat 6 is better than Warhawk.
On top of that, does the PS3 have any RPGs? Not really. Oblivion was originally Xbox 360 exclusive.
Why not discuss how integrated and well executed XBL is to PSN? Oh no, you have to pay for a great, stable, service! God forbid. Atleast Xbox's COD4 players were able to play online last weekend unlike their PS3 cousins.
How about Bioshock? Anything to counter that? Again, Xbox 360 has the better gaming library right now (who knows 2 years down the road).
No, lets not use Metacritic to form our opinions. Why not have your own opinion?
I based my views on the games I own, both the PS3 and the 360 games.
I didn't include Warhawk because I don't own it. Its online multiplayer only and I don't have the lifestyle where I can spend many hours playing online. I play in my own time or when friends or family come over. I didn't include Bioshock or the Orange Box because I don't own them. I do have the GT Prologue demo and I own Forza2 and I think GT is better. I own Tomb Raider Legend and have played the Uncharted Demo and I think Uncharted is better.
Incidentally, I forgot to include Gears of War on that list actually, as that beats any game currently available on either console in my opinion, simply because of how great the campaign and the co-op campaign are.
I seriously could not give a toss about metacritic or any other half baked reviewer who plays so many games that it becomes boring and monotonous, and they do not view and play the games as we do as people playing games for a bit of entertainment. This is why you end up with such inconsistent scoring and then using metacritic to add all these inconsistencies up into another inconsistency. I'd rather make my own mind up thanks, and use the reviews as a guide. Stating that one game is better than another because of a 5% difference on metacritic is stupid really.
My point is that there are games to play on the PS3 that rival what I consider to be the better games on the 360, and I only raised it because someone reckons that playing 'last generation' xbox games is a nail in Sony's coffin. FFS, with all the controversy surrounding Backwards compatability and how the 360 owners said they didn't care, (after Peter Moore telling them they didn't care) it is completely baffling that they are so excited about paying to play old games on their 'next generation' console, and having to pay for a overpriced add on hard drive to do so, is even more stupid.
Let us use Metacritic. Metacritic is a much more legitimate tool to be used for comparisons versus something like VG Charts or Amazon. Metacritic takes the general critical opinion and averages them together. With any system of scoring or critical opinion you are going to see inconsistencies, it is the nature of human beings and their variables opinion.
However, because of Metacritic's nature does not mean it cannot be used to compare it against your opinion. What I have done is taken your opinion and thrown it up against the masses (which is probably the average, most likely case). Popular opinion may say that Geometry Wars is better than Super Stardust but you may believe otherwise. That is great, but you cannot legitimize your argument by saying mine doesn't count using a different approach.
You said that you do not have enough time to play loads of games but then you list a nice chunk of PS3's gaming library as well as some Xbox 360 comparisons. Then you go on to say that you've only compared games you have played. That seems a bit hypocritical that you can compare twelve games and then predict four more.
The point being made earlier is due to Xbox 360's larger library and much more solid games it trumps Playstation 3's golden children right now. Yes, Ratchet and Clank is a good game. Yes, Uncharted looks pretty slick. Yes, Metal Gear Solid 4 will be a ... well... solid game. Yes, Eye of Judgement is a neat concept and a cool toy, but Xbox 360's games beat that right now. Gears of War, Halo 3, Orange Box (while it is Xbox's timed exclusive), Bioshock, and Ace Combat 6. Including the Marketplace content and coming up games Playstation 3 is hard pressed. I don't think this is the final nail into the coffin of Playstation 3 but I think it is a step to making Sony worry a bit more.
Peter Moore may have said we (the consumer) does not want any of those old Xbox games but Peter Moore was wrong. Everyone knew it. So what happens when Peter Moore leaves? We get those original Xbox games to much of our pleasure. This has to be worrisome for Sony because they just removed backwards compatibility from their new SKU and Microsoft has now improved their backwards compatibility with the available download of older games.
You don't have to go out and buy and over priced HDD from Best Buy or Gamestop, you can borrow your buddies old copy of Halo or find it on the used rack for a cheaper price. You could also do a bit of surfing online and find a cheaper HDD from Ebay or some sort. I would much rather pay for an overpriced HDD than pay for an overpriced SKU.
If Sony does continue to bring out games of high quality LIKE Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, or MGS4 I may perhaps purchase one. Right now, I am content to play my neighbor's PS3.
Also Andy, bubbles to you. I am enjoying the ability to have a good wholesome debate without the nessecary fanboy-ism that plagues this site. Perhaps we can keep this moving in the right direction.
THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION! So shove it if you don't like it. I have a PS3 and their is a reason I play my 360 more often. Here are my favorites, all games I have bought and STILL own.
Madden 06 and 07
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Test Drive Unlimited
Guitar Hero 2 and Guitar Hero 3
Fight Night Round 3
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1 and 2
Rainbow Six Vegas
Gears Of War
Forza Motorsport 2
Ace Combat 6
That's 37 games Bud. Here is a list of games I am going to buy now through next year.
Devil May Cry 4
That means by next Christmas I would have bought 47 titles and this is before I know much about next year and all the titles releasing.
PS3 titles I own or plan buying that I am interested in.
Full Auto Battlelines
Throw in the 19 Multi-plat titles I have for my 360 that I would have probably bought for my PS3 (Including next years titles) and you have 28 total games I would have bought in the first 2 years of my PS3. Only going off of what I am buying for my 360 until this christmas (1st 2 years) that is 12 less games I would have got for the PS3 that interested me, plus if I bought the PS3 version I would have bought many titles not only later and usually not as good, but sometimes almost a year later, not to mention you waited an extra year for anything. The biggest number is the fact that only 9 of those games are PS3 exclusive to 20 xbox 360 exclusives. I admit I like my 360 more and pay more attention to it's games than I have for 2008 for the PS3, but other than maybe a few I have missed on either side, the 360 just has more games in it's first 2 years than from what I see for the PS3 from this year and what I see for next year. Oh and keep in mind next gen gaming in 2006 was not very "next gen" most companies were waiting for competition or other systems to release anything, their was huge game droughts because the 360 was the only system out. 2007 has been a ridiculous year for gaming and 2008 will be even bigger so the PS3 library won't be catching up anytime soon in amount of games, exclusives or quality of games for a long time if ever.
This is not a PS3 thread so please do us a favor and GTFO.
Nobody gives a sh!t about the PS3 in this thread we are talking about the dashboard update..
EDIT: Actually everyone in this reply is getting off topic. We can't even have a dashboard update discussion without it turning into a damn fanboy flamewar.. pityful.
Even though this turned into a flame war I commend most of the posters for actually detailing their points instead of jiberish and 2 year old babble.
At first I wanted a PS3 before the 360 came out, come on we were all clouded by the smoke. I chose the 360 only because it was out first and I was on house arrest and needed to kill time. After I still wanted a PS3 even if it was for a blu ray player. Now I just cant justify the price even at $400.00. The main reason I like the 360 is the lack of delays and the great ammount of demos. Plus when I found out that the PS3 is not HD out of the box (you need to buy extra cables) I personally think thats just rediculous.
and how many ps1 and ps2 games do you think could go on the psn,thousands,silly boy!i made my mind up aswell
That will be sweet but I still own some of these games, now what? Will I have to repurchase them just for the gamerscore? That I would not be happy with. They should have some way to let us prove we own the original still so that can download a copy on our drive with out having to pay twice for a game.
A great number of xbox 360 owners didnt own a xbox like me. I jumped the sony ship and landed on the microsoft Yatch. I wana download fable and hopefully kotor later.
Agree - cool downloads. I also am one of the owners of the 120 million PS2s sold (I had 2, so not quite unique owners) who jumped to the 360 after the final PS3 delay, and I am so glad I did--the games I want are on the 360. This does NOT mean the PS3 is somehow bad, but in my case, it worked well for me. gCM
Same here ex PS2 owner. I would even go out on a limb and say that %85 of even original xbots owned a PS2 at some point in time. Damn who didnt?
fable was actually a good game, but it promised that every single action in the game changed the game completely and that definately wasnt the case. i was disappointed but because i had high expectations after the developer basically lied. KOTOR was probably the best game on the xbox, other than the first Halo.
Thats pretty sweet looking, I hope something like that comes to the PS3, not to fussed about the movie rental stuff but the downloading of last gen games is cool. Maybe Sony has something similar planned and thats why they felt confident to remove the PS2 BC stuff from the 40GB PS3.
Still, very nice idea Microsoft, very creative use of the 360's D/L capability, gonna be tight on those 20gb HDD's though!
That's the thing... If this becomes huge, Microsoft would (we could only hope) be forced to drop the price of the 120GB HDD for users to upgrade.
Honestly, i don't see the 120GB hard-drive being enough space. Maybe if they compress them a lot people should be ok but still there are a lot of great games there to buy and i see hard-drives filling up quickly. Hopefully MS will bring out some larger hard-drive sizes to accommodate these new downloads because i know i will be getting a lot of the classics that i missed.
have you even looked on the psn?i have already downloaded last gen games for months,you muppet
fantastic new additions.better than what i imagined.
Wanted to buy the HD-DVD drive this christmas but it seems ill just buy the 120gig hard drive then.
Any news concerning the DIVX support?would like that as well but if not then what they have added will do.
im geting the hd-dvd add on this crimbo mate. 5 free hd-dvds to is to good to pass down.
I'm getting dead link, anyone got a good one or a c&p?
Article has been removed, very interesting indeed. Maybe CVG broke an embargo and have let MS's cat out of the bag.
I can understand why they would want to keep this a secret, its big news and if timed right with the right marketing push could be a very significant factor in hooking fence sitters during the holiday season.
Some how I knew sooner or later Microsoft was going to release original Xbox titles onto the XBL Marketplace. I'm glad that my assumption was true. ^_^
I wonder if Halo will have online play. That would totally be awesome! :D :O :D :O :D
Yeah I'm also wondering if Halo has online play. But this brings up a problem...if they start to release classic xbox games for download...than I'm going to definitely need a bigger HD.
i need a bigger HD on sometime in the future too, and i'm getting an elite too
i'm definitely downloading Fable & i hope they have Jade Empire too
The answer: Drop the price for the 120 Giga HDD or realese one with 320.
I just hope these games won´t cost so much.
And please online MP for Halo. *Getting of the chair and starts praying*
thats were i found it and tipsed it (was unable to submit it due to reached story limit so tipsed instead)
its not on OXM either, ms only told OXM all other websites got it of them them, my OXM werent suppose to make it public yet
Now thats what i'm talking about MS! I can't wait to put my hands on indigo prophecy again and hopefully soon download all of the non backwards compatiable games that were on disc.
If there is going to be online play in Halo: CE that means the M6D pistol is going to very popular once again. ^_^
Aww, and I started to like the Assault Rifle...
The one in Halo 3, that is. CE´s version sucked.
But what the hell. Overpowered weapons FTW!
I beg to differ. CE's AR is much better. It felt so much more powerful.
You know, I hope these titles come complete with achievement points...
And here I am still waiting for Sony to pony up some quality PS1 downloads, and Microsoft goes and gives me some of the Best the originial XBox had to offer. time to upgrade that HDD....
will it happen? If this happen I'll go nuts, this console race is over.
Only Xbox 360 provides gamers with firmware updates of the highest quality which pioneer the future of Xbox Live and Online Features.
Compare what Microsoft gives to its consumers to the terrible offering that Sony gave to PS3 owners with the 2.0 update, it is obvious to see why Playstation has lost significant marketshare to its competitors
I know you are a reaction speaker that loves bashing on the ps3 but just to annoy you lets put things into perspective. In order to be equal in terms of updates lets take into account the time that has passed between the last update for both systems. So in reality ps3s 2.00 includes a pretty good deal for the time it was in development but if you wanna go the full list add all the updates since the release of microsoft last update and youll see they are in the very least comparable what boh comapanies have done.
Zhuk the coffee scrote...How many PS3 updates have been released since the Spring dashboard update?...It would be great to see you run down the feature list added in the past 6 months...and I wonder why MS has decided to start allowing downloads of previous generation software?...I bet it had nothing to do with them being the only company charging for online service, yet still not offering it...
anyway...If they release the original Halo with online MP...that would be awesome...Its nice to see them kind of supporting the Xbox again, in a round about way...I was pretty excited last winter when MS said that basically my original Xbox was useless after just a few years...
It doesn matter how many udates you release, what matters is, what they release in the updates, and so far Microsoft has fullfilled our needs.
hahaha this is geat new imagine playing riddick return to booty bay that game was the best looking game of last genration on xbox
@doubleThree, how was that?
Would be cool if they did, since last time I checked my Riddick Disk it wasn't back compatible, nor is it on the latest B.C. list... A shame because the only thing Riddick for xbox needed was a good dose of anti-aliasing, which the 360 would enable automatically. So offering it over LIVE might work,....
HOWEVER! I remember hearing a blurb a while back that RIDDICK was being re-worked for next-gen platforms.
Check out IGNs interview w/ Strabreeze from May of this year...
Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena.
They've been pretty quiet about it since though, and the official site
( http://www.riddickgame.com/... doesn't seem to have gone live yet.
divx would be great
ive got my dvd collection on my external hd
butt 360 won't play dvds,so an update to play dvd's and divx
would rock, streaming dvds strait to home theather now that
would be great
ps so much for RROD my son and 2 friends played halo3 for 3 days
strait and blew up my projector lol .the fan melted
And you guys call yourselves better than PS3 fanboys...
Anyway, that's a great update for XBLM. If I had live, i'd be all over this... I was almost tempted to get live just so I could download REZ and IKARUGA in the near future, but I think i'll wait a little longer. I suppose once more XBOX games come out i'll have to jump in on the fun. I mean, 1600 points for a full xbox game isn't too shabby!
At least Microsoft is being pro-active about giving more people the chance to play old games again through the store. I wish Sony would hurry up and release more PSone titles, because their selection is rather sparse comparably.
yeah, 1600 MS pts for Jade Empire when it comes out: Phew, awesome!
You don't have to pay for Live to access all the content. You can access everything but multiplayer with the free silver membership.
I didn't know that!
yeaah sony fvcked up when the took out BC because they could have made alot of money selling teh vast ps2 library online.