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Submitted by yonkersfinest88 639d ago | opinion piece

Is Sony Shooting Themselves in the Foot?

Sony announced on Tuesday that the long awaited price drop for the PS3 has finally come at a great new price of $249.99 in all US retail stores. However, was this as smart a move as it seems?" (gamescom, PS Vita, PS3, PSP)

Update The title for the article has been changed to "Big Brother PS3 Says Hello to Little Brother Vita" due to invalid judgements solely based on the headline.

TheKindRoost  +   639d ago | Well said
for each step Sony takes, they(Sony) seem to always shooting themselves according to these bloggers *smh*
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TheBeast  +   639d ago
This is beyond pathetic. A price drop is good and sony even stated they will still be making a profit. How does that make sony shoot themselves in the foot?...journalism.
MintBerryCrunch  +   639d ago
If Sony lowered the price on the PS3 and shot themselves in the foot, then Nintendo must have done the same with the 3DS when they lowered the price as well

pointless article , only looking it at one sided because this is the hot new topic
darkride66  +   639d ago
Yeah, how many of these ridiculous articles are we going to see? "With the PS3 and Vita at the same price, consumers will get confused!"

No they won't. When I was spending a lot of time in airports because I was travelling a lot, I went to buy a portable device. I bought a PSP, I didn't walk out with a Wii because they were similarly priced at the time and I got confused because they both played games.

I can't believe we're seeing another one of these articles.
Slayer OP  +   639d ago
Hate article on Sony again? IT WAS THE SUMMER OF 95!
http://n4g.com/news/70979/s...
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farhad2k8  +   639d ago
The article does have a point, if I was not in to gaming, and I wanted to buy a new console for my brother, when I end up seeing that the PSV and PS3 are the same price, I will go for the bigger console with more features.
With that out of the way, I'm pretty sure Sony know this themselves.

Therefore, I predict a PSV price drop before the release.
The new prices will be something like $250/$300 and £200/£250 for UK.
As long as the PSV is $10 lower than the PS3, it will look lower in the eyes of all those confused parents who want to buy a new console for their kids. Thus leading to a whole bunch of sales for Sony.
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Fez  +   639d ago | Funny
Seriously, how idiotic would you have to be to not research something which will cost you over £200.

How can anyone not tell the difference between a handheld device and a console? And why would two things costing the same price confuse people?

I saw a washing machine that costed the same as a ps3, I was confused for a bit but eventually got the washing machine, it had better games, and was portable.
Jdoki  +   639d ago
"when I end up seeing that the PSV and PS3 are the same price, I will go for the bigger console with more features."

Wow, that explains the meltdown I had in a Sony store... The HDTV was BIGGER, but the Vaio had MORE FEATURES. But the price was THE SAME!!

I couldn't cope, and went home to eat crayons.

/s and maybe /jk
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farhad2k8  +   639d ago
@Jdoki
LOL at your reply.
I didn't mean 'bigger' physically. I meant technology wise, name wise.
People who have never had a console before would more likely go for the console that can be connected to a HD TV, watch blu-ray movies, surf the net with Flash and also play stunning HD games.

Compare that with the VITA, obviously people with no knowledge will go for the PS3.

If Mercedes unveiled a new smaller version of one of their classics, which was more economical and slower than the other better looking model, what would you go for if they are priced the same?

That being said, people like me and you who already have a PS3, already know that we're going towards the VITA, most likely because we already have a PS3 and don't need another one.

BTW, I'm probably the biggest SONY fanboy on this page right now, so don't try and say that I am downgrading the VITA or the PS3 in anyway, it's just logic to be honest.
I know what I am saying is correct from previous experiences with the elder family. It's simple.
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nnotdead  +   639d ago
people with no knowledge won't look at either, or look at the one that their kid asked for. most people understand the difference between a home console and a portable device. the Gameboy has been around for over 20 years, i think people get by now. if someone walks in to a store and doesn't own the ps3 or vita, i don't think Sony gives a shit which one they buy. either way it's money in the bank.
allyc4t  +   639d ago
They aren't shooting themselves in the foot with this price drop. If anything, they aren't helping themselves with what they've priced the Vita.

Yes, the Vita is going to be a great piece of hardware. But most consumers don't care about how much ram it has or what type of GPU it uses. They care about the price. As evident with Nintendo and the 3DS.

Nintendo thought it was going to make a bajillion dollars with the 3DS, but it turns out they weren't as successful with it most notably because of the price. Who wants to drop 250 on a handheld that isn't phone?

My point being, Sony made a great move with the price drop of the PS3. It's never a bad idea to get more people to buy your product. But it might not be so good for the Vita when it debuts in the coming months.
blackburn10  +   639d ago
Gamers care how much RAM or what kind of GPU it is. We gamers want the VITA. Everyone went on and on about how the PSP was more expensive blah blah blah and it ended up selling 72 million units. Its not a phone, it is a dedicated handheld device for GAMERS.

A phone's battery and controls can't handle the amount of gaming we play. A VITA is not competing with a phone. It is competing in the GAMING world. It does not have to out sell the 3DS or a phone it just has to sell well. The 3DS was never worth $250. Nintendo got greedy and tried to con you. The VITA is worth $250. Get it?

Stop with the predictions.They were wrong about the price, wrong about the exclusive games, wrong that it can't fit in your pocket and wrong about the RAM. Aren't all of you tired of being wrong yet?
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allyc4t  +   639d ago
The PSP came out at a different time. A time before things like the iPhone ever existed.

Believe it or not, the GAMING handheld market isn't limited by two handhelds (Nintendo DS and the PSP) anymore. It's now accompanied by the iPhone and Android supported phones as well.

Like it or not, despite it's inferior specs, battery life, etc. Phones are a major player into whether the VITA is a success or not. Especially in a shitty economy like the one we have going on now where people have to choose between one or the other and certainly not both.

I'm certainly not downlplaying how awesome the VITA is going to be when it comes out, I have one pre-ordered and can't wait to play some Uncharted on it. But to not consider the current mobile market as a competitor is naive and is exactly where Nintendo went wrong with the 3DS.
Wintersun616  +   639d ago
@allyc4t

While I love spending 5 minutes playing Angry Birds on my SGS2, it will never replace my dedicated gaming. The interface, controls or games can't compete with Vita on any level.

Nobody is saying that the smartphone market doesn't affect the sales of handheld consoles, but it certainly isn't destroying it either. As long as there are core gamers there will be handheld consoles and they will sell well.

The disappointing sales of 3DS is not caused completely because playing on your phone is on a steep rise. It was bad marketing (a lot of people think it's just a DS with 3D), too high price to begin with and the lack of good amount of quality games so far that caused that.
Max Power  +   639d ago
All I have to say is watch the video of Battlefield 3 on the iPad. With out dedicated controls games us gamers would enjoy the most wouldn't work as well. That is what the Vita is giving us, familiarity.
Soldierone  +   639d ago
While I AGREE entirely with your post it is flawed from a business perspective. I say it every single day, these devices are not putting out GAMES, its casual trends for wasting time, nothing more. However that hasn't stopped the recent Apple commercials saying iPad and iPhone play "games" or from them putting "Games" on the box to sell it.

Now you have millions of brainwashed people (the one thing Apple is good at) thinking their device plays games. "You spent 250 on that just to play games? I can do that and talk on the phone look" thats going to happen, I know it.

Its Sony's job to get this in as many hands as possible, thus a cheaper price, and to show people these are REAL GAMES thats what they do. You NEED a PSV to play real games or you go play casual WANNABE games. Truth or not, this is what Sony HAS to do to be successful. Honest Apple tooks aim at them, now its their turn to return fire. Make commercials that literally say what I just said and you are golden.
nnotdead  +   639d ago
@allyc4t

too early to say. until smartphones are able to make calls, text, game, internet, music and video all day with no risk of battery dying, i believe there will still be room to own more specific devices.
Silly gameAr  +   639d ago
This is probably the dumbest argument I've seen in a while. People who want a handheld would get the Vita. People who want a home console, would get a PS3. I'm not sure how Sony could be leading anyone away if they go to Best Buy with their mind set on a PS3. Likewise for the Vita. This is common sense right?

Who comes up with this stuff?
Narutone66  +   639d ago
Journalist with uncommon sense?
tarbis  +   638d ago
They just want hits on their sites, 'coz its dying. XD
remanutd55  +   639d ago
yes sony is shooting themselves in the foot , they are doomed !!!!!!! they will be broke by next year no more ps4 , bye bye playstation !!!! lmao , new playstation coming out , same old hate
Rushing_Punch  +   639d ago
Yep!
Just like everyone else does when they lower a price to improve sales.
Where is everyone getting all these bullets
Dart89  +   639d ago
Lmfao at the pix xDDD.

Say what now??
Godmars290  +   639d ago
The full console and the new handheld, which by all counts is as powerful as the full console, are the same price while promising cross-game playability.

How does someone shoot themselves in the foot like that?
MrBeatdown  +   639d ago
Amazing how anyone can see this as a problem. Someone buying a Vita any time soon is probably already a serious gamer. If those Vita launch games are enticing enough to make that person want a Vita for $250, games in the same franchises on PS3 were more than likely enough to get that person to jump at the opportunity to buy a PS3 when it dropped to $300.

I doubt there are a whole lot of people out there who want both buy have neither, but couldn't justify buying a PS3 until now.
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Optical_Matrix  +   639d ago
They're not shooting themselves in the foot because I thought about it and, if the majority of people look at both systems, and see one that is practically PS3 quality graphically, with features such as Twitter, Facebook and Skype...well in todays age that is obsessed with portable devices, they will go for Vita. The portability of Vita alone makes it attractive to the mass market.

It wont be a problem for PS3 either because it's still selling healthily and people that want them, Vita or not, will buy them
SLEDGE  +   639d ago
They could make a bundle?
400USD for a PSV&PS3... right?
GynGa  +   639d ago
PS3 is home console
PSV is a handheld

^ These two are not competing
Jonah_Reese  +   639d ago
Why do people use this for a statement/question? "Is Sony Shooting themselves in the Foot?", "Sony is shooting themselves in the foot."

Anyway,I guess you can see this as a "problem" if you look at it as they're competing with themselves. But the PS3 is the PS3 and the Vita is the Vita the idea of the Vita is to use it in conjunction with the PS3 and then as a solid, stand alone device.
DJ  +   639d ago
This article is dumb. The Vita is essentially a portable PS3 and HDTV. If that's not value, I don't know what is.
plmkoh  +   639d ago
Tell that to Apple who price the Iphone and Ipad similarly. And yet they effortlessly sell 17million phones per financial quarter.
Masta Kaos  +   639d ago
So slashn da price n stil makng profit is bad? Ok i get it
knifefight  +   639d ago
"Is" followed by "themselves."

*Sigh*

Learn your own language, guys.

On topic: No, they isn't. I think they is going to be OK. Unless it don't. I doesn't sure at this time.
KwietStorm  +   639d ago
Funny as hell
n to the b  +   639d ago
well, he/she got it right in the source article, "ARE Sony Shooting Themselves in the Foot?". lol that when he/she submitted to n4g they suddenly got the tense wrong.

EDIT: and now the source article title has been changed altogether. prob a good idea.
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ExgamerLegends  +   639d ago
Author is missing the point. The vita and the ps3 are in different markets so they arent competing. They both have different purposes. One for home gaming the other for mobile gaming. So if a person had to choose it would be a question of mobile vs home gaming rather than bang for your buck. A lot of ppl who want a vita already own a ps3 (or with the recent price drop will own one before vita releases). And if they dont already own a home console of some sort then they prolly only game on the go anyway.
coolasj  +   639d ago
Customers with $250 to go buy a Vita will walk out with a Vita.
Customers with $250 to go buy a PS3 will walk out with a PS3.
They both do very different things. One's a home device and a console. The other is a handheld with the capability of an iPod. I wouldn't walk into an Apple store and be like
"dur dur dur do I want an iPad or Macbook? ]_]"
Call_me_Ishmael  +   639d ago
how can they shoot themselves in the foot,any gaming platform the consumer chooses between the two,they still make money
Brownghost  +   639d ago
Still $200 for the vita would be great but I don't own a ps3 yet might have to choose the ps3 might wait for a price drop on the vita
yonkersfinest88  +   639d ago
OKAY WOW!!!!

Hey Guys its me R17, First off I must say never have I written something that has become soo misunderstood to the point where I felt I have to respond back to all of you. This is because almost everybody is missing the message and not understanding the article at all.

I have a feeling that perhaps most of you guys did not read may article in it's entirety, otherwise you wouldn't have released half of these comments on my article. Your conclusion is completely invalid and I will kindly explain.

My belief, which was written in the article, was stating a fact that handheld gaming (whether it be the 3DS, PSP, iPhone or iPad) are generally selling at a faster rate than home consoles such as the PS3, 360 and Wii. My article is stating that people in 2011 are more interested and willing to play casual handheld titles that are not restricted to only home use. And according to the iPhone/iPad market sales figures, this statement completely could not be more true...not even counting the fantastic sales figures of the 3DS within the past week.

So again, my article is not about handheld systems dying out!!! or about PEOPLE BECOMING CONFUSED ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PSV AND PS3!!!, but rather replacing home consoles! I am talking about the fact that most consumers today do not want home systems they want handheld's and the same price point for PSV and PS3 I feel might lead people away from PS3 and more into PSV based on the statistics nowadays. Also I base this on the fact that people who do not own a PS3 as of yet will realize that there are far better and a lot more games coming out for the PSV than PS3 in the coming year of 2012. I would appreciate everybody giving my article the time and effort of carefully reading every detail before hitting a disagree button for the wrong reason. Again, thank you guys for your interest I appreciate all future feedback from everyone.
n to the b  +   639d ago
no, I will not "[give your] article the time and effort of carefully reading every detail". j3sus, learn how to write proper English if you want to be a journalist. else how can I respect you/your writing?

"my belief... was stating a fact..." lol, which is it? a 'belief' or a 'fact'?
tiffac  +   639d ago
Thank you for explaining your article but you miss one fundamental point.

Sony is a hardware developer their strategy is to make products for each market and sometimes their products unintentionally do affect the other market.

Just like the iPhone affected the sales of the iPod and the iPad on the Mac notebooks. This things happen.

So to say Sony is shooting themselves in the foot when they are completely doing what other hardware manufacturer is doing, is completely misleading.

The PSV is there for the dedicated handheld market (even the Xperia is somewhere out there) the PS3 is for the console market. Will they affect each other? Sure. Will they kill each other? No.
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matey  +   639d ago
i wouldnt pay £150 to play half of them Vita games and its £250 get a grip no chance is Vita worth a penny more than 3DS going off graphics ive seen better on 3DS so far
C0MPUT3R  +   639d ago
Does The Author Have Brain Damage?
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It doesn't matter if the PSV steals from PS3 sales the money still goes to SONY.
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Derp de Derp de diddly derp.
tiffac  +   639d ago
How can Sony shoot themselves in the foot with the PS3 and PSV when the people buying the PSV will probably already have a PS3...

Not to mention the PSV is being advertised to have connectivity with the PS3.

After the Ninty made the price drop to the 3DS and it started selling now everyone else is turning to Sony and the PSV for their doom and gloom article. Will the dedicated handheld market ever catch a break from these guys?
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GamerGuy153  +   639d ago
I don't understand. If someone walks into a store thinking of buying a PS3 but they see that the Vita is priced the same and decide to buy the Vita instead, doesn't Sony STILL get a sale of one of their consoles?
PnUt1ne  +   639d ago
Reason Sony has made this move is, to my opinion, because it (Sony) is competing with itself. This being said, Sony does not have a competition, no I am not a fanboy but I mean wouldnt U come up with a different product to compete with urself? Think about it.
tarbis  +   638d ago
I suggest these "journalist" shoot themselves in the head before they say Sony shoot themselves in the foot.
Why is making the PS3 much more affordable a bad thing?
AdmiralSnake  +   638d ago
The 3DS I believed at one point cost more than the Wii..... and was 50 dollars less than a PS3.... -_-.... ? This article is pointless like most shit on N4G.
AWBrawler  +   638d ago
Its always one or the other. either it's bash Sony or Kill Nintendo. Can't we get a damn unbiased article.
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