Myona: Just when you think that PS4 and Xbox 720 wouldn’t be needed for the next generation gaming, now Qualcomm among the mobile chip companies that is going to change the ever growing landscape with the Snapdragon S4
Damn those visuals are insane for a handheld device.
Mobile tech is moving WAY faster than pretty much anything else these days. The amount of progress made in the last 4 years is absolutely mind blowing.
Yeah, I'd love it if the next Sony and Microsoft consoles were chip based. I'd be so much more convenient. I could just play on my smartphone and then when I get home I can play on my 42 inch =)
um... every game console is chip based. every computer is as well. microchips control it all.
The Playstation Vita still blows this Qualcom tech demo out of the water. I do like the fact it has HDMI out though, which is what the Vita should have.
Its a joke compared to PC hardware. Games will look nowhere close to PS3 or 360 quality
@BattleAxe The funny part is by the time Vita is released, by pure raw numbers these mobile chips will be faster than whats inside the Vita. Kal-El for example from Nvidia which is on the verge of being released and will be in tablets and phones before the end of 2011 has more GPU cores running inside it and more power. By 2012 or 6-8 months after Kal-El release, Nvidia releases its refresh to Kal-El which is even faster. Take a look at the release calender for Qualcomm and Nvidia mobile technology for the next 1-3 years and what you are witnessing is this mobile tech market moving faster than all other tech markets right now.
@ death2smoochie And the sad part is that by the time Vita is released, the best game on mobile phones will still be Angry Birds. Raw specs mean nothing without the software to use them. And how much will a high-end Kal-El smartphone cost contract-free? But hey, those benchmark apps sure look great!
Biggest problem with mobile tech is it is getting very close to its peak now, something we will likely see pretty soon. The Nm is only going to be able to decrease so far, after that leakage becomes an issue. The fact that battery is the only available source of power is its limit. Until we overcome leakage issues at such low Nm's (unlikely altogether) or invent a new power source its peak will continue to close faster and faster. Yet even more damaging is the fact that mobile tech is the ONLY tech moving at this rate, Its catching up with its big brother, But when it does, it needs advancement from its older bro to have footsteps to follow in. It will never be able to make those steps itself at all
if vita had hdmi you wouldnt be forced to have a ps3
I know, its so damn powerful it blows all other portable devices out of the water, and even competes with the 360 in terms of graphics. I think Aliens must have chipped in with the Vita design process.
" I think Aliens must have chipped in with the Vita design process." Please let's not do this again.
BattleAxe, I recommend finding your nearest Sony glory hole to blow off some steam. Maybe then you can rejoin society.
@ BattleAxe I consider myself a sony fanboy but you're just making us look retarded!
Yes, they are getting better, and they will continue to get better, But mobile devices will always be behind, Largely because they have to balance their abilities with power constraints. By the time a mobile device can precisely do what a console can do, say a PS3 for example, the next generation PS4 will have arrived and be a couple of years in.
I agree w u and I will add that hardware is only one apsect of gaming. There has been alot of hardware that has wow'd ppl but fallen far short in the software development. If a splash is to b made, someone will have to cut a deal w a major gaming company and create a great game, ie. Halo & GoW3.
awesome stuff for gaming. But I would wait for benchmarks co their gpu isn't promising, they just cant beat a desktop gpu so easily. - http://geeknizer.com
Theres certainly gonna be more choice on the market next gen, i dont like too many choices though, keep it simple, 1 or the other (2) Teh econonmy is goin doin the toilet anyway, doubt we'll av any choices at all
I completely agree. If we get too many choices then it will be harder and harder to have a complete gaming experience as you would have to own 50 different devices to play all of the games you want. Look at the start of the android market for example. They had sooo many devices running on different versions of android that iw was hard for developers to lock down a specification for what their game should look like. I have tht thunderbolt but I find it hard to play as many HD games as ones found on itunes, and that's just because of standardization. We really need to make sure this doesn't get out of control.
You mean you really care about Android games? I don't give a shit what games my smartphone could run, I have a PS3 and PSP for games. I use my phone for calls, email, and maps, I have no battery power to waste playing games on it.
. This is what everybody keeps talking about and what I have said many times...Nintendo missed the boat and M$ and Sony better get their new consoles out there fast or EA, Activision, Ubisoft, ThQ, Bethesda, Rockstar...you name it, could commissioned their own devices and cut those guys right out of all those profits. Technology has become super cheap, at least in terms of what makes the 360 and PS3 run. What if EA or Activision decided to put their IP's on something a little more powerful than that example, but their OWN device. You don't even need a handheld of any kind...just look at Onlive...that is the future. The only thing M$ and Sony can do at this point is make the next consoles so high tech, that it will take years for the IOS generation to catch them. Look at the price of a fully optional Ipad...you could build a killer console for that price. They better launch in 2012 or they lose big. They should of launched already...6-7 years between updates is just plain dumb. If Apple did that, they would be dead in the water.
Why is every one of your comments on this website just a giant wall of non-sense?
Panda well said xDDD.
Because he is an inside out idiot.
Maybe your the one that doesn't know what you're talking about Panda? I'm guessing you think consoles are gonna stay the same forever? Don't get me wrong, I love my ps3 and 360, they paved the way for online gaming on consoles, but to think that tabs and mobile phones aren't the future of gaming is just insanity if you ask me. Look at how powerful your precious Vita is. The WiiU already has a tab for a controller. Its only gonna be a matter of time before tabs and services like Onlive take over, and Sony is gonna do what they are doing with PS Suite. The thing is they lose so much money on hardware it's not even gonna make sense to make hardware when everything can just be downloaded on a tab or come to you from a cloud server. I would bet the farm that if the ps4 even launches, it will end up being a tab. You can still have blutooth controllers and headsets. I don't get you console and pc fanboy's side of the argument at all?
Will the console industry evolve? sure it will. Will it die out? I doubt it. When technology makes leaps and bounds there is an industry that will take a hit but its hardly a nail in a coffin especially if that technology can help evolve that said industry. So no console gaming will not die it will benefit from the handheld industry like the PC market did with the console. I think that is the part that people should start realizing by now and stop with this doom and gloom scenario especially when the current console life span is at its end.
accept this rofl as a free gift
@Da_shredder "but to think that tabs and mobile phones aren't the future of gaming is just insanity if you ask me." Thankfully no one asked you. tabs and mobile phones will have their place in the market, but they are no taking it over. "services like Onlive take over" Most definitely! Just look at how great onlive is doing...oh wait.
im sure you just copy and paste from the biggest troll site on the internet.....oh wait we are on it right now. @pandamobile.....well said.
well said inside out, dont let those idiots tell you otherwise. Onlive is a service the consoles cant compete with. Its only going to get better as internet gets faster. I play onlive and amazed of how well it works. Sony better pull something out of their a$$ on the ps4 because technology and internet is evolving fast.
The visual are incredible for a hand held.
both ps3 and xbox360 are over 5 years old so this is brand new mobile tech so its suppose to look better. and when the new systems come out they will look better its just a process when something new comes out its suppose to look better than what's already in the market before it other than that insane looking
The mobile market is advancing much faster than the console market. There'll come a time when both consoles and Smart-phones will be on-par with each other.
That's not really surprising considering consoles are designed to on the market for years at a time while smart-phones are upgraded every year.
Whatever makes the most money will have the quicker innovations.
That's because you not see a console release every year, if that was the case, gaming consoles would be leading, but that doesn't work, no one would buy a console knowing the next year it could be another one with more/better tech and improvements, it'd be insanely expensive for manufacturers and confusing for consumers...
The battery life of phones might hold it back though.
mobile tech advances because every year there is a new version of that product while console like xbox360 and ps3 will be in market for next 3-5 year adding close to 10 years of total time in market in ps3's case it maybe over 10 years. so go ahead plan a mobile device for 10 years. we see new iphones every year ipad's every 10 months or so but i do believe that moving forward the tech between mobile devices and home consoles will be neck and neck. What i mean is HD gaming on the go will become even bigger part of our life along with all the other hd entertainment
I remember back in the day where smaller companies would put out things like tiger electronic handhelds...now they put this out? Technology has come a hell of a long way.
I Remember the Tiger Ninja Turtles game, had it on days I had to wait till I got new Game Boy batteries... Gaming was simpler, harder back then... I also remember "Sonic the Hedgehog" watch I always wanted but never got :(
I remember the Goofy skateboarding game. Got it after seeing the movies on VHS when I was a kid, lol
cool except cell phones will still never be considered a real gaming device....nice try though
Texas Instruments' OMAP 4430 used in the Droid 3 and Droid Bionic is more powerful than Qualcomm's Snapdragon S3 because the S3 is still using ARM Cortex A8, while OMAP4 uses Cortex A9 with NEON support, which is 25% faster per clock cycle. Also the PowerVR SGX540 at 304MHz in OMAP4 beats the Snapdragon S3 by a pretty wide margin in some of the more graphically intensive benchmarks like GLbenchmark2.0's Egypt test. My guess is that the game they show on the tv is not real as the S3 is already available in phones like the HTC Evo 3D and HTC Sensation.
while i agree with what you stated except for this: "My guess is that the game they show on the tv is not real as the S3 is already available in phones like the HTC Evo 3D and HTC Sensation" well this may come as a shock but Desert Winds is a real game, an it's currently running on the Xperia-play which is the first of the 2nd Generation Snap dragons an it runs it smooth. the Adreno 205, is not up in the specs as the Adreno 220 but it can run the very same Game as the Adreno 220 gpu that's in the S3
Oh wow that looks epic. But then again 'Snapdragon S4 will triumph over Xbox 360 and PS3' when the new gen consoles (ps4 and xbox 720) come out, then they will triumph over Snapdragon :D But anyway... it looks awesome.
I'll take these kind of claims seriously when Naughty Dog, Bungie and Bioware start moving their AAA games onto smartphones and skipping consoles altogether. Just more Marketing PR chest pounding to stoke their stockholders - next consoles are dead article in 3...2...1...
Cool concept but nobody is a hardcore cellphone gamer people just play those game to kill some time like your riding on the train or waiting in line or something.
its similar to ps vita graphics not ps3 or xbox
Sigh... will it ever end? Mobile devices will never be better than stationary computers/consoles. At some point they are bound to outdo a certain console or hardware setup. But I have yet to see a mobile device to completely outdo the 6 year old 360 in performance and potensial... let alone ps3. Im sure they'll get there within 2 years, but the upcoming consoles will likely be 15 - 20 times more powerful than ps3 or teh superior snapdragonz devicez!1!11 unless moores law doesnt apply to one or the other lol. Current pc hardware is 10+ times as powerful as 360/Ps3 already. Stationary devices have the advantage of a solid powersource and huge ass die's! bigger size = more hardware, more complexity and more power... duh! They can brag about all the stuff they fit on that tiny little thing (Which is a lot of pointless bs since it could be better off without some of it...), but the truth is that larger die's allow for larger pie's! Cellphones and tablets for gaming = fail. What about proper controls, optimisations and effective software? Phones are so full of bulshit software they will never beat the most recent consoles even if they had somewhat more power. ITs either make a console with phone functionality or fail. The key thing with phones is lack of standards the peoples desire for new ones all the time. because of that and a few other details its never going to work. PC's and home entertainment systems will remain better for eternity. this cell phone stuff is just a little industry campaign to draw attention and sell junk to its believers. They are trying to appeal to "gamers" here and impress tech people, but most of them knows the truth. These devices are good but no good for proper gaming. The day mobile devices outdo any stationary system completely Ill travel to mars with rollerblades because freakin spaceshuttles would never do the trick!
I'll see you in Mars in about a few years then...
Well said. It takes more then great graphics to lure anyone away from their PCs and consoles. Mobile gaming can not and will not replace it. EVER.
Apples and Oranges Handheld gaming is awesome but home consoles provide more than just games, they are HOME ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEMS....enough said.
I think people buy them 99.999999999999999% of the time because of the games.
PS4 and nextbox will blow all handhelds out of the water. Then in 5 years handheld graphics will catch up again.
mobile tech is advancing so fast i wouldnt be suprised if it looks better than real life by 2015 lol cmon guys, who cares about these buttonless crap. PSV is gonna be better ...because it has buttons and sticks. no one is gonna buy a phone to play hardcore games. only little puzzle or card games. This is from experience and observation. Waste of tech, battery life killer ,etc.
Good old snapdragon, last time I heard of them their were in the Droid I think. But in no time something better then it came out. I don't see it this beating consoles or even PC, it most likely might be the best for cell phone devices. That is if something better doesn't come out after it.
When I will be able to see a smartphone game that is technically and graphically superior to let's say Uncharted 3, Killzone 3, Gears 3 or Gran Turismo 5, then yes I'd be more than happy to replace my PS3. But in the meantime, PS4 will be all over the place, so it's kinda useless.
I've been saying for quite some time on this site that mobile chips will surpass the console market. Even if Sony and Microsoft mad a successor is would still be a missing link because it wouldn't be that much of a leap due to it has to be affordable. I see the future being based on OnLive or a service more similar because gamers are entirely too overpriced and you don't have to worry about how powerful a console is or having to go to a new one...
I'll believe that when I see it with my own two eyes.
Graphics is Vita-like
NO lol more like psp ? yes
It has considerably more power than the Vita. Every few months they make a massive leap in performance - it is just what happens with non-fixed hardware platforms (smartphones and PCs).
It it just me or does 1:17-1:31 remind you of the Wii U Zelda Demo
You mean that demo that wasn't even on the Wii U?
cheesy marketing rubbish :/ It isn't really surprising that a brand new mobile chip can outperform 6 year old consoles on a per-pixel basis, I am not sure what they are getting at. And yes, a lot of smart phones have more RAM too. But the CPU power on them is just nowhere near enough to run the combination of AI and Physics which is already stretching the capabilities of the consoles (though consoles are more often limited by RAM). Whenever new consoles appear though, they will annihilate handheld solutions for another 4-5 years. And the smartphone industry isn't static enough to develop a high performance game because only a small number of people would be able to run it. I will personally never buy an expensive phone, because it will always be greatly outdated within a matter of a few months. And the price you pay for relatively impressive performance (compared to older smart phones) is extremely high compared to a console or even a PC.
Very well said :) I agree with you 100%
There's still a long way to go in terms of memory though, games are taking up 20plus gigs more often these days so maybe phones will technically be able to create the same graphics but the games will still hav to be streamlined. Not to mention ISP bandwidth caps and download times. So sure, maybe in 2 years phones will be able to recreate L.A. Noire; however, phone gaming will still kinda suck if their's no alternate controller option. Proper surround sound alone would take up too much room.
The lack of mainstream recognition will kill this thing stone dead regardless of quality.