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Submitted by ironhammers 1151d ago | news

Battlefield 3 Not on Steam so EA Can Offer ‘Best Possible Experience’

Ironhammers writes: If you’re a PC gamer and have the slightest bit of interest in Battlefield 3, you’ve probably heard about the ongoing debates and rumours over why it’s not available to pre-order on Steam. If not, you’ve likely at least noticed that it’s not in the Steam store. Well, EA have made several little comments about the reasons behind this, but now the Battlefield 3 Community Manager, Seeson Mahathavorn, has said it’s so that EA can ‘provide players with the best possible experience’. (Battlefield 3, EA, PC, Steam)

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Pandamobile  +   1151d ago
Well I guess that's that. Oh well.

I wonder if this will have any impact on Valve's policies.
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egidem   1151d ago | Immature | show | Replies(5)
MAJ0R  +   1151d ago
Valve's policies aren't that strict, anyway I'm not buying the game now
Pandamobile  +   1151d ago
You guys are acting like you can ONLY buy it from Origin.

There's dozens of places where you can buy it that aren't Origin. The amount of melodrama on N4G about this is insane.

Did all of you skip Starcraft 2 because it wasn't on Steam?
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MAJ0R  +   1151d ago
the point is that there not putting it on steam because they want their Origin to be a success when we all know it will have the same fate as GFWL

they also don't wana give people options, doesn't mean I won't play the game though :)
vickers500  +   1151d ago
I'm not buying it either. Unless it comes to steam. There are PLENTY of games I am looking forward to, and I am excited about all of them equally as much as battlefield, meaning BF3 can wait unless those greedy f*cks at EA learn their lesson about not trying to take down the most widely loved digital distribution service of all time and trying to replace it with their bullsh*t trashy "we delete the stuff you paid for after 2 years of not playing it, even though you paid full price for it" origin bs.

I like all my games centralized into one place when it comes to PC gaming, and I'm not switching over to something else just because EA are greedy little morons.
Pandamobile  +   1151d ago | Well said
Believe what you want. Valve's the one that removed Crysis 2 and DA2 from Steam, not EA.

BF3 not being on Steam is a joint effort from Valve and EA. If EA really want Origin to succeed that badly, they could have completely barred other distributors from selling BF3. If that were the case, then yeah, I'd suspect EA of being underhanded like Activision-Blizzard and forcing users into only buying digital goods from them; but BF3 being on D2D, Impulse and every other major digital retailer shows that that really isn't the case.

I've played the BF3 alpha. I've seen how deep it's integration is with the Battlelog service. I can completely understand why it wouldn't work well if that was trying to run under Steam.

You guys are really being stupid about this whole situation.

I'm probably the biggest Valve/Steam fanboy on this website, but a game not being on it is not going to impact my desire to purchase it, and it shouldn't impact yours either unless you're completely OCD and can't handle buying games from places other than Steam.
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Sillyace92  +   1151d ago
@Pandamobile
Well said
radphil  +   1151d ago
@Pandamobile

What the hell happened to "voting with your wallet" on this site?

It's now turned to "people being stupid".

Some people like to go DD, but not get strongarmed into their choices.

For me I'm getting my game through physical retail, but still, calling people stupid just because they choose not to get strongarmed into their choices is kinda fickle.
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evrfighter  +   1150d ago
just get it retail man.

EA wants to see some bloated sales numbers on Origin. But don't be a statistic for their DD sales meeting. Just go retail. who cares if you have to install Origin. Point is you have the physical copy in case they delete your game and you they gotta split up the sale between all the middlemen by going retail.
GenoZStriker  +   1151d ago
I have given you a bubble for practically every single one of your comments because you are the only person here actually making sense in what you say and not following a mindless hivemind.

Key thing of what you have said "If EA really want Origin to succeed that badly, they could have completely barred other distributors from selling BF3."

This is quite true now that I think of it. I myself thought they were trying to push Origin but now that I look at it, it really makes no sense for them to have it on other DDs. There has to be something regarding Steam that we either don't know or choose not to believe for EA not releasing it on Steam. Because at the end of the day, sales are what matter right? The more digital distributions the better. And there are some EA games still on Steam except for the last few games that were removed.
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Lazy_Sunday  +   1150d ago
This will have ZERO impact on Steam's policies. Just hopefully I'll have two places to get better deals instead of one.
Rushing_Punch  +   1151d ago
Origin, duh
TheDarkness  +   1151d ago
LoL "Best possible experience" My ass
ironhammers  +   1151d ago
My sentiments entirely...
joab777  +   1151d ago
Its their biggest money draw ever and as such the biggest draw to origin. Its how they stake their claim. Its also one of the biggest reason so many console gamers chose consoles, everything is in one place, friends, trophies/achievements etc. Someday, hopefully consoles will swallow the PC whole and offer their own services and we can b done w this. Actually, i think if Microsoft or Sony signed a deal w valve to run steam on their next Gen console, it would b a step in the right direction. Well, hopefully it doesn't backfire on ea. There is alot riding on battlefield 3. Next year we will get west and zampellas new IP on origin only, i assume. We have Microsoft v Sony, origin v steam and activision v ea. Lets see how everything aligns.
bumnut  +   1151d ago
It would be more accurate if they changed the word 'experience' for 'profit'
stevenhiggster  +   1151d ago
Your avatar is awesome @TheDarkness.
Kamikaze135  +   1151d ago
They want to offer the best possible experience on a program that's clearly under beta rather than on a program that's been out for years and has millions of registered users? This just proves how stupid EA is.
Pandamobile  +   1151d ago
The game has no interaction with Origin unless you buy it through Origin. Origin won't even need to be running to launch Battlefield 3 when it comes out.

Everything is done through Battlelog and Battlelog != Origin.
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Kamikaze135  +   1151d ago
Well if that's true, that only makes EAs seem even dumber. Why sell it through Origin and not Steam when you need an entirely different service to even use it? Mass Effect 2 is available through Steam, yet the DLC is purchased elsewhere and nobody complained.

Also, Battlefield 3 is available on D2D...EA is just full of it, lol.
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Pandamobile  +   1151d ago
Mass Effect 2 was on Steam before Valve changed their policy.

Crysis 2 and Dragon Age 2 came out around the time when Valve changed it, thus, Valve removed it.

What it sounds like to me is that EA was doing things their own way, without regard to Steam's policies and after they've nailed out all of their online features and plans they sort of realize that this doesn't fit in with Valve's policy of not letting the developers supersede Steam's system by going over its head with the patching system and in-game DLC purchasing.

I really doubt EA is purposely keeping Battlefield 3 from Steam. They've had a good relationship with Valve in the past, and good sales results with their games on Steam.

It's not like they're keeping it from every digital store except for Origin. You can still buy it from Impulse, D2D, Gamersgate, etc.
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pumpactionpimp  +   1151d ago
"Battlefield 3 Not on Steam so EA Can Offer ‘Best Possible Experience’"

lol if that was true, EA wouldn't be involved in any way, that's the best possible experience.
yamzilla  +   1151d ago
don't care, for any game i am going to pay full price for i buy a boxed copy, if i am paying $40-$60 for something I want a real box, a real disc and a real manual...

Don't get me wrong, i own over 150 steam games but never, EVER spent more than $25 on one

shiiiit, usually they were $5-$15 for $50 games, love steam!

Let them have their fu#$KING lame battle, buy a retail copy and show them what we want!

All digital is crap, If you want my $50, I want a box, artwork, manual

If all your gonna give me is lines of code, you better drop that
FU$%#KING price down to $40 for ever major AAA game!
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jdktech2010  +   1151d ago
I understand your point but 95% of the time when I buy a box and a manual, it sits in a corner or drawer somewhere because I don't care past the intial opening of the box. I'm fine with Origin because you don't have to have it open to play the game and it's one less thing I have to throw away because it's just in the way.
zag  +   1151d ago
For the collectors editions it's worth while but if your only going to get the poor mans version of the box well, it wouldn't matter much.

The other thing is your paying the same price as it would be at the store on release so why not support a store and staff.

If there are no store there's no 2nd hand market anyway and some people fuss about that as well.

The 2nd hand market doesn't matter to me as I've only bought 3 2nd hand games and I don't sell my games afterwards, ever.
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TheDarkness  +   1151d ago
Bubble up sir..
zag  +   1151d ago
Great stuff.

I'm not impressed with steam anyway, and like yamzilla I won't pay for anything above $10 max, I hardly see the point.

Biggest pain in the arse steam is with most store games needing it and then wanting to have a patch downloaded straight away just because the Devs couldn't be stuffed to make their disk properly in the first place.

That and the fact that everywhere else in the world has to wait for the USA release on steam, so you buy a game only to find it's not been released yet via steam rendering it 100% useless.
iNFAMOUZ1  +   1151d ago
I'm kinda scared to buy anymore EA games knowing that their servers might shut down sometime you get really into that game and you love it to death then it dies a fast death, if that makes sense.
Pandamobile  +   1151d ago
The only Battlefield game they've shut down is Battlefield 2: Modern Combat, which is 6 years old and wasn't incredibly popular to begin with...
Gran Touring  +   1150d ago
Don't know why you got a disagree. it's statistically the worst selling and least played bf in the franchise
Chnswdchldrn  +   1151d ago
hate to say it EA, but Call of duty still has steam so you are kinda shooting yourselves in the foot here

whatever floats their boat I suppose
GenoZStriker  +   1151d ago
The fact of the matter is that this will have 0 affect on the gameplay and looking at what they have shown so far BF3 looks great. I have to do this for some of my other PC Games as well, which have their own online platform. Steam is great and it's the best thing to happen to PC Gaming, but you can't always have it and policies & developers plans clash sometimes which you can't really blame anyone for.
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electricshadow  +   1151d ago
Meh, I pre-ordered a physical copy from EB Games so this really doesn't affect me. I don't really have a problem with Origin like other people, however, I do understand why some do. What I don't understand is some people are just not getting this game altogether because it's not available on Steam.
vortis  +   1150d ago
It's because Steam, for the lack of a better term, safeguards its consumers. If you pay for it, you know it's yours and it's safe. Valve really does put the consumers first with Steam.

The problem is that a lot of people don't want to open or register multiple accounts with digital distributors for one game and have no safeguards or guarantees.

I can't blame anyone because I was going to buy BF3 from Steam, too. They have great deals and equally good support. The next best thing to Steam is buying boxed games out of a bargain bin at the local retailer.
fileman37  +   1151d ago
Are Blizzard games on steam? No, cuz they want users to use theire battle.net. I dont see anything wrong so STFU childish COD lovers!
AKissFromDaddy  +   1151d ago
But MW3 is on Steam.
LOLOLFFSA  +   1151d ago
For users that likes to buy their games from steam and only from steam this is not the "best possible experience". Surely there are other ways to get this game so why the hate?
badkolo  +   1151d ago
pandamobile told you exactly why its not a conspiracy to push origin yet everyone still goes on and on, if this was about pushing origin then it owuldnt be available at 100 other online places, gosh darnit people
qwertyz  +   1151d ago
now sony must decide which to support, origin or steam. EA already favors sony because MS sided with activation(EAs arch rival) but if sony continues to support steam it may damage their relationship with EA. I'd love to see how this turns out anyways.
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Bladesfist  +   1151d ago
You guys are idiots. Valve did this when they released steam. Do you see left 4 dead 2 sold anywhere else? Counter strike? Half life 2? No. Hypocrites.
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vortis  +   1150d ago
It's Valve's games...they can do with them what they want. They're a developer, publisher and digital distribution provider.

Besides, the only reason people are making a fuss is because 1.) Valve is good at developing games. 2.) Valve is good at publishing those games. And 3.) Valve's Steam isn't about screwing people over and has garnered a lot of trust from the community.

If a game ain't on Steam a lot of people won't buy it. It's not about being hypocritical is about knowing your money is going to be well spent and you WON'T get screwed over.
Bladesfist  +   1149d ago
WTF are you on about. Buy from origin, pre load with origin and add to steam launch list. You dont need origin running after.
vortis  +   1148d ago
"WTF are you on about. Buy from origin, pre load with origin and add to steam launch list. You dont need origin running after."

Uh, and what happens when the game gets deleted, must be re-installed, you want DLC?

It's not about using Steam, it's about the security of Steam. The one thing you don't hear about gamers complaining about is getting screwed over from their Steam purchases.

I don't think anyone likes Steam's intrusive software (it's horribly annoying) but you can't beat the prices or the software convenience. Especially if you need to re-download, get DLC, etc., etc., without worrying about surcharges or some underhanded tactic (i.e., the old EA Store).
GamerPS360  +   1150d ago
I love steam and I am not downloaing another digital distributer. Hence, I am buying Physical copy.
AO1JMM  +   1150d ago
I'm going to laugh when it requires you to download Origin.
Jacobite  +   1150d ago
I don't care if its not on Steam though I prefer Steam, but I don't want Origin so retail copy for me then.
AO1JMM  +   1150d ago
I see nothing wrong with Origin. I have a shit load of games on Steam and now I have a few on Origin......Is it that hard to double click on a different icon on your desktop? Have you no space on your hard disk for some odd reason?

Steam Fanboys seem to cry alot....
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Bolts  +   1150d ago
I have no issue with buying from Origin. The truth of matter is that EA is right. Steam is the real bully here and there should be an opt out option when buying from Steam. Sometimes all I want from them is a game download without their restrictive bullshit being slammed down my throat. I want to install the game where I want and control my own updates.
hilyou  +   1150d ago
thats is the lamest reason i hav EVER heard in my WHOLE LIFE! i cant even tell u how lame that was EA!

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