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Good Idea, Bad Idea: PlayStation Vita in 2012

GR: "Kaz Hirai recently confirmed that the US and European markets would not see the release of the PlayStation Vita in 2011. Anthony Severino and Daniel Bischoff have laid out why they think it is a good idea (Anthony) and a bad idea (Daniel). Whose side are you on?"

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Sev1879d ago (Edited 1879d ago )

I can't wait to get my hands on the Vita. Again. Sometimes I think it's worse that I actually got to play it, now I know what I'm missing.

C'mon Sony, can't you just give me one?

I'll prob end up importing from here: http://www.play-asia.com/SO...

dbjj120881879d ago

Thanks for the link! Can't come soon enough.

user8586211879d ago

shame sony banned people from selling their products to europe......

Sev1879d ago (Edited 1879d ago )

Good question. I'm not entirely sure. But I have heard that to be true. Time for me to do some research, because I have to know so I can buy one :)

MaxXAttaxX1879d ago

I think it's best to launch the PS Vita with multiple game options, than to release now with little to no software.

It also gives us more money and time to spend on some pretty great games coming out later this year.

darthv721879d ago (Edited 1879d ago )

"They’ve made the 3DS look like an inferior product from specs alone, then to have it at the same price point? It made the 3DS look like a rip-off compared to what the Vita offers.

Nintendo is now in a poor position with the 3DS: sell it for much less than planned, alienate early adopters, and let the world know that it was struggling. This hurt Nintendo, and I’m not sure that they can get out of it."

A couple things in that statement doesnt click. I guess the obvious fact the 3ds was technically inferior had to be reiterated in case there were those who didnt know? Seriously.

It isnt about the technical power. Its about how you sell it. Granted there are many who would say the price drop is weakness but that is the obvious position one would take with no interest in the matter. If you have no desire for the 3ds that is fine but no need try and spin the obvious into something it isnt.

I also find it funny how up until the price point of the vita was announced, people were already saying it would be over $300-400. Nintendo never said they would make it the most powerful thing on the planet nor did they say the price would stay at that point for years after launch.

Sony announces their price and we are supposed to believe rumors that it was the reason the 3ds was lowered? You nor I nor the rest of the logical thinking world knows what nintendo had in mind for this device but we sure like to proclaim we know more than them. Major BS on that part!

Nintendo in a poor position...? coming up just shy of 400k units to make their prediction for the fiscal year. That isnt poor by any means. If we are talking an 8 million prediction and only selling 2 (units not millions). THAT is an example of "POOR POSITION".

And somebody please tell me how a price drop alienates anyone. If this is bad then all those who bought a ps3 or 360 at launch or there after must be overwhelmingly PISSED at those who waited for the price to drop.

Hypocrisy at its best.

tiffac1879d ago

@decimalator

Yes the PSV is region free. It was announced at E3.

http://www.computerandvideo...

Bull5hifT1878d ago

Okay i Got $7,800 in the Bank , i am a Very Impatient Person .....i Cant Wait For The Jeolousy ill Get By Having This-And Just The Sheer Thought Of Holding This in my Hands-- Im an American , What Happens When i Import it From Japan? What are the Negatives apart from getting charged a little extra , InLighten Me

Bull5hifT1878d ago (Edited 1878d ago )

Okay i Got $7,800 in the Bank , i am a Very Impatient Person .....i Cant Wait For The Jealousy ill Get By Having This-And Just The Sheer Thought Of Holding This in my Hands-I Want To Get Started Looking On what kind of Video Files it Plays, Does the Music have an Equalizer?, or Sound Crisp in Loud From The Speakers Built In?, can i View huge 12 MegaPixel Pictures In all There Glory and not get a Dumb Down Version?, Will This Have Cooler Music Visual Effects?, How Well Does The Internat Work? , Can i Play Flash Games off The Internet?, How Long Does The Battery Last?, Can I Use The Built in GPS as a TomTom, What Kind of Memory Stick Does it Use?, Whats The Biggest Size Stick i Can Afford?, How Responsive is this Touchscreen?, How Visible is the Screen OutDoors, Will the Sun Kill Pixels in Oled Screens? - Im an American , What Happens When i Import it From Japan? What are the Negatives apart from getting charged a little extra? , InLighten Me

MaxXAttaxX1878d ago

What are you blabbering on about in that wall of text?

You're right about the price drop not really alienating anyone. And you're right about it restating the obvious about the tech specs.
BUT everything else in that quote, as harsh as it it is, is technically correct.

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BigWoopMagazine1879d ago

Agreed doc. If it's ready now, release it now, dammit. All they're doing now is letting the 3DS gain momentum. So what if the Vita costs more? Consumers that want something good will drop the bills for it, and all the features on the thing are clearly worth the money, and probably more.

MaxXAttaxX1879d ago

If it released now, it would have a terrible launch.
It's best for it to have a strong software line-up, than to have little to none at all.

mastiffchild1878d ago

When the games are there they will launch. IMHO they waited to launch PS3 and EVEN then it wasn't enough-they should have waited longer and had MORE of a launch line up. It's EVERYTHING for a console right now as 3DS has proved. Even now it's best game is one I've actually already played to death on TWO Nintendo systems(and with VC only last year!)and to my mind had Ninty had a half decent launch line up of games their console wouldn't have had a cut yet-and definitely not one of the size we've seen.

IF Sony COULD release Vita with a shedload of content worth playing today, trust me, they would, but as they won't have enough ready 'til later they're right to sit tight and release WHEN the games are ready-but they cannot mess it up then and the games MUST show the systems strengths and show them well.

3DS may never be in a weaker position than the one it's in now but the lack of a 2011 Vita shows Sony CLEARLY aren't ready yet and have learned from the past that no games at launch is BAD!! the best Sony were ever likely to even HOPE for this handheld generation was a chance to compete let alone the chance to look at reducing anyone else's market share so I reckon, right now, they're pretty happy with how it's going and are trusting that they have to have the games ready before jumping in.

Naturally, if the thing gets hacked week one it's screwed again.

ABizzel11879d ago

More bad than good.

Good because there's just way to many games to try to buy for the rest of this year.

Bad because they're going to miss out on the much needed holiday sales. That's more important than anything.

Honestly I think they should launch in the US or Europe first.

They're the biggest gaming markets in the world, and Japan is currently satisfied with the PSP which means they're making nothing but profit form the PSP over there, so why stop that. It makes no sense. In most cases the US bought more copies of PSP games so the US should be the launching pad for the PS Vita, then European and Japanese releases later.

Mustang300C20121879d ago

Why would they launch in the US first when they sell more in Japan than they do in the US with their handheld?

ABizzel11879d ago

Did you not read my comment?

They're still selling PSP's in Japan. The PSP is nothing but profit at this point, so why put out the PS Vita in Japan where the PSP is selling the most.

They would miss out on the profit they're making selling PSP's and start taking a loss since we know they'll be selling the PS Vita for less than it cost to develop for the first couple of years. That's why they should launch in the US first, and continue to bring in profit from the PSP in Japan. That's a smart business decision.

The longer they wait the cheaper PS Vita development will be, and if they launch in Japan next year, then development cost will be less. Even if it's mere cents less that will save the company a lot of money when they sell in Japan.

shadow27971878d ago

They've already said they'll be breaking even or profiting on vita out of the gate. This is not the PS3, Sony planned for the price point before developing the hardware so they wouldn't have to sell at a loss.

ABizzel11878d ago (Edited 1878d ago )

Sometimes I truly wonder do the people on n4g have brains because you guys are either seriously lacking in reading comprehension, or you just blindly post ideas you grab from your delusional minds.

Do you not remember that Kaz Hirai, someone who knows a lot more about Sony then yourself, STATED the PS Vita will not make a profit until 3 years time. THEY ARE SELLING THE PSV AT A LOSS. If that's not enough then here.

http://www.examiner.com/vid...

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://www.1up.com/boards/p...

http://www.andriasang.com/e...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

http://www.psu.com/forums/t...

Seriously how hard is it to take 1 minute to check your facts before, posting a comment that's completely wrong. The only way the Vita won't lose money is if they include game sales with as profit for the device which is nothing more than fluffing numbers for investors.

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decimalator1879d ago

Yes, the dark ages really sucked.

rezzah1879d ago

Always seems that the Sony systems or mostly anything sony is bad in some way.

never ends, will it?

Since the PS3 release.

SilentNegotiator1879d ago

I'll eat used baby diapers if this confirmation of what we already knew (That Vita was going to be released in one region this year, others following, within the same fiscal year) is not called a "delay" by several websites. It is a Playstation product after all. Remember how GoW3 was "delayed" because Gamestop posted a 2009 release date? Or GT5 several times because sites kept creating expectations?

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Kran1879d ago

Good idea.

Why? I can now actually afford everything I want to get Q4 2011 ;P

mrmancs1879d ago

no external hd output is a amazing over site, on what to looks a (near) perfect piece of kit.

UltimateIdiot9111879d ago

I doubt it's an oversight, they probably are going to repeat what they did with the PSP.

First one will lack the output while the later models will gain the "new" feature.

As much as I probably know this will be true, I am mostly going to get the PSVita day 1.

mrmancs1879d ago

i said the same only the other day in a n4g thread , typical snidyness by a corp , yet again.

tiffac1879d ago (Edited 1879d ago )

But by putting an external HD output on the PSV the connectivity feature between it and the PS3 would fail miserably.

fullmetal2971878d ago

An HD output would definitely help Game reviewers and people who just wanna showcase the games.

Ace_Pheonix1878d ago

Yeah, didn't care when they added it to the PSP either. It's made to play away from your HDTV, so why bother? They normally look worse big in the first place. Plus, with transfarring it's really a moot feature to begin with.

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insertcoin1879d ago

I want the PS Vita to come out at the proper time, so that they have enough launch titles, enough marketing time, and enough development time to come out with a long-lasting product. I rarely get handhelds within the first three months, because I want a better idea of where my money is going in the long run, particularly since an updated PS Vita is practically an assumption.

BigWoopMagazine1879d ago

I'm sure there will be updated models, but the line-up so far is looking pretty awesome. Not sure how many of those will make launch, but there's no doubt that eventually it'll have a bunch of great games.

dbjj120881879d ago

So have we all come to terms with the name "Vita" now? I'm still a little awkward with it.

Pikajew1879d ago

I don't like it sounds like Vista and Visa. They should have made it more catchy

decimalator1879d ago

No less awkward than Wii U. Oh yeah, well Wii U too pal.

Ace_Pheonix1878d ago

Ha, or Wii in general. It sounded SO ridiculous at first, but now it's normal as pie. I hated Vita at first, but it's growing on me pretty fast.

Trexman891879d ago

I just say PSV. Just as catchy as NGP.

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