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Why The Wii U Will (Almost) Certainly Fail

Jake Rhodes looks at the upcoming release of the Wii-U and why he thinks its almost certain to fail.

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jacksheen00001736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

By judging Nintendo behavior pattern, they always add about one major feature to make their product likable.
And then, fool us all in to buying it to compensate
for less graphical power, less features,no DVD/Blu ray playback etc etc/

N64 + analog controller - for less Graphical power

3DS + LCD 3d capability - for less Graphical power

Wii + motion control - for less Graphical power

Wii U + ipad like controller - hope is not the same thing

tunaks11736d ago

"N64 + analog controller - for less Graphical power "

your logic is flawed.

jacksheen00001736d ago

@tunaks1

What I was trying to say is Nintendo know they can't compete against their competitor in graphical department. So, to compensate for that, Nintendo would normally add a feature/gimmick to their console to make it likeable.

@ SilentNegotiator

Now as for the N64..the only reason why Nintendo first gen games look and play the way it did is because they got help from a 3rd party company by the name of ANGEL STUDIOS to teach them how do use 3d application to make 3 dimensional games.

http://www.thefreelibrary.c...

OH and Nintendo went with a cartridge based configuration for N64; so that its matches their skill-set at the time. That being said, had Nintendo added a DVD drive..that would leave Nintendo wide open for criticism from gamers,as to why they couldn't add more graphics to 1 gen games on a hardcore level.To me, I'd say It was just a obvious excuse why they couldn't give more; which worked rather well in the favor. Can you Blame them? No, cause at the beginning of the 3D era; nintendo wanted to take things slow, so that they would get the hang of using 3d applications before taking big steps.

blackbeld1735d ago

@jacksheen0000

Graw up will ya.

Wii U will certainly not fail as the Xbox.

N4g_null1735d ago (Edited 1735d ago )

Wow jack they went cart to match their skill set what does that mean? Are you trying to say ps1 1st party part was superior to nintendos? LoL really? Take crash bandicoot and Mario n64 and tell me which one looked better even texture wise? Hell take little big planet and dkcreturn which one looks better? That last one isn't even fair because you would think a hd game would crush a dx7 game art wise but dk chews that game up. Nintendo just made 3 RPGs dude how many did Sony make? Never mind if they are coming over here but uncharted did not happen until now. Back in the day every one was limited by the tech. Even with DVDs Sony could not even touch nintendo back then.

I'm mean it's cool you don't like nintendo but making bogus reasons are lame and makes people not respect your opinion because your logic is flawed or straight up based on lies. Hey but it's cool if you just don't like their games plenty didn't like sonys either.

Jack what makes you assum nintendo can't compete tech wise? You do realize nintendo uses the best OUT side tech companies to help make their tech right?

So you are basically saying no other tech company can beat Sony when this has been done over and over again?

Oh and I think n vidia, amd/ati, IBM, could all do and does make better tech than Sony in regards to powerful chips.

Could Sony throw more money at the problem to get better specs that sort of out perform the comp sure. Could ms throw more money at the problem oh yes. The question is will they and then the next one is if they do will we see better tech than what is currently on pcs? That would be wishful thinking. Hey but any thing can happen?!

Yet I'm pretty sure nintendos next hardware is the best spec for the price in hd console gaming already. I have over 16 gigs in my workstation laptop. The os eats 8 and even crysis 1 wont use more than 1 -2gigs. I can even open up zbrush still. Pcs have had the power to do what the wiiu is doing since 2002 yet no one has done it till now using power from the first real hd gpu in the unified shader class of cards.

Sure maybe you can do better but the visuals won't pay off nearly as much and then you have to pay out way more money to make those higher end games to show that all off. Expect gamers to pay thur the nose for that.

Once the price of gaming gets to high even more will drop out of it.

SilentNegotiator1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

"N64 + analog controller - for less Graphical power"

I have little bad to say about the 64 or PS1, but Ps1 absolutely did not have better graphics. Not by a long run. If anything, you should have went with what was a far bigger blow - less memory (cartridge). The difference between cartridge and CD was huge. Blu-ray and DVD might cause little roadblocks today, but the DVD of today is like a toll booth compared to cartridges then like a brick wall.

nopunctuation1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

0:1 agree ratio? That could not even be any further from the truth. Nintendo has never ands I mean NEVER been about graphical power. They rely on using cheap technology to get their product out faster. In a world where we demand high end technology, this is starting to hurt Nintendo and it will show when Wii U comes out.

Anyway, this just shows that the agree system is flawed. People just want to hit disagree on anything, including neutral statements just to be pricks. Ill give you an agree, but by now the sheep on this site have concluded that this is an "unworthy post" and will probably pile them on. At least I have the stones to admit when I disagree. Id like to see people get away with it if the system was NOT anonymous.

na-no-nai1735d ago (Edited 1735d ago )

So Naughty Dog a 1st party developer to Sony used the Wii U that is created from Nintendo. Many developers 3rd parties and some 1st parties Nintendo didnt even know about. Wow amazing lol. Yeah right like Nintendo actually let them try the hardware out and actually used it.

Trying out a game that is still in the early phrases (most likely been created a few months prior to the showcasing) does not show how powerful a hardware is. And why would you even listen to a rival 1st party dev

DNov1735d ago

This was the only generation where Nintendo was last in power. This is also the only generation where Sony wasn't the worst in power. Get your information right. He'll, Nintendo can even make games on the Wii look pretty good with the architecture from the 90s they used.

DNov1735d ago

Naughty Dog didn't say the PSV and PS3 were as powerful as a Wii U. He said that if you created a game where you could play on the screen, you could potentially do the same with the PS Vita and PS3. Even if you have to buy the game twice and have it ultra laggy because of slow Bluetooth connections.

darkpower1736d ago

Only...people on the floor of E3 have said that the system is effin powerful, and they've mentioned the system runs in 1080p (the highest avaliable resolution).

Please, before trolling like you know something you don't, do some fucking research so you can at least PRETEND that you have any idea what you are talking about. Good lord!

nopunctuation1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Naughty Dog has used the Wii U and confirmed that its about as powerful as Vita or Ps3. So in other words, its last gen like the Wii is now.

http://mynintendonews.com/2...
There is your research.

Seferoth751735d ago

Nothing in the link you posted says anything about "Power" It's kinda pathetic that its clear what they are talking about but in order to troll you make yourself look ignorant..

So you pretty much just proved the guy right by being a moron. Great job you did there kid...

The fail is strong in you.

Optical_Matrix1735d ago

Jacksheen what are you on about? Gamecube was graphically superior to the PS2. Of course Nintendo can compete on that front. But it's not their focus. Out of anyone Nintendo makes the best game games. No need for fancy cinematics, godly graphics or AAA voice acting.

They're so good at creating fun core gameplay mechanics, it doesn't really matter. They do it far better than Sony and Microsoft.

N4g_null1735d ago

Jack assuming stuff can be bad for you. I know the pr guys told you what happened in the past but seriously. The ps1 was.... Wait when did you start gaming? Where are you getting your info from?

Aside from the cart issue the n64 was very much like the ps3. The only problem is it used carts that limited it and the early dev kit ran off silicon graphics work stations. Those thing where 70,000 for the lowest model lol. The ps1 was actualy the cheap route since the middleware tools where way cheaper plus ps1 gamers where easily satisfied with wrinkling textures and cgi play back.

The ps2 was a lot better yet not better than the gc. Just look at res evil 4 port to the ps2.

I'm sure game wise there where more games you liked on the ps2 but don't let that be your bases for changing the fact when it comes to tech.

Also what a company did in the past does not alway mean they will be able to do it again. The ps brand seems weak with out a new medium to usher in.

What is funny is the wiiu is the result of years of nintendo doing their own thing while trying to accommodate third parties and I think they got the balance right now.

The wii was the last hurrah for fixed shader units and boy did they push that tech. Yet the industry uses unified shaders with the new computing shaders with the newest tech. This makes porting even easier but it gives you access to way more engine options. The main problem is using lots of engines and porting can do crazy things to your assets. Which is sort of the problem on the ps3 really.

Yet we will see open gl and shades of the new shader model 4 on the wiiu. Lots of devs are hush hush about possible games because they don't want a red steel 1 scenario.

Ms and Sony would have to severly over price their console to do better and more ram on a video card isn't going to give you the jump. Why? Wellthe wii u uses large amounts of edram, system ram and video ram with a solid-state drive solution that is faster than harddrives with the ability to use USB external drives.

More system ram isn't going to beat a solid state drive with out raising the price range that consoles need to hit.

Sure some of can afford $1000-2000 consoles but many of you can't. The ones that can have pcs or they will be buying all next gen systems but that's maybe 20 million gamers world wide??? They all don't like the same games either.

I'm not going to even get started on the controller since it has not revealed all of it's surprises yet. Not ar gaming isn't the surpise but pc gamers are going to live it!

lionelglitchy1735d ago

agree nintendo had the best tech in all their consoles untill the wii how can say they won't return to that policy if you buy one top of the range gpu it's expensive if you order 50 million its a lot cheaper

fatstarr1735d ago

Notice the trend? that each of those things changed the world that we live in in some way?

so im guessing the wiiu's controller is gonna revolutionize something.

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Venox20081736d ago

please, shut up with those silly articles..

TruthbeTold1736d ago

I won't report this article as lame, even though I want to, but I'm REALLY sick of these articles. 'Why would a Playstation gamer buy this when blah blah blah Vita/PS4, etc. etc.' Oh I don't know, maybe because they like games, and different ways to play them? Maybe because many people can *gasp* buy Sony's offerings AND a Wii U?

It's as if there's an anti-Nintendo propaganda campaign going on right now, courtesy of Nintendo hating Sharks who smell a little bit of blood in the water and hope they can persuade a person or two to forsake Nintendo. Lame.

LordStig1736d ago

they should get rid of opinion pieces.

Kran1735d ago

But whyyyyyy.

Then I wouldnt be able to post my "Have You Played..." articles people like ;)

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