It's been a common excuse for underwhelming early PS3 releases, but according to Infinity Ward, the developer of the Call of Duty series, developing the game on the PlayStation 3 was easy.
Who said it was not easy? that it took longer to get to know the system does not mean is harder to dev for it. Look at Kojima's Team(MGS4).
I guess it all depends on who are the devs.
Yeah, but Sony's development Playstation Edge tool is improving with every game released. Naughty Dog already said that they made sure to make their development process open and is dedicated to helping all other PS3 developers with their projects once Uncharted is completely released. You have to respect a close-knit community of developers that are helping one another like this.
Who said it was not easy? Oh, how short of a memory people have. Carmack and Gabe Newell, just in the last few weeks, I believe.
and how many games have Carmack and Newell released on the Playstation 3?
hmm, let's see...um, 0 each. that's a whole lotta nothin'
Infinity Ward, Naughty Dog, and Insomniac at least *HAVE some actual PS3 development experience, so i'll take their word over Carmack and Newell anyday. especially considering that Newell is one of the most obnoxious PC-hugging fanboys i've ever seen (and i *LIKE PC gaming for the most part).
the PS2 was difficult to develop for also. didn't stop games like MGS2-3, God of War 1 and 2, and a *SLEW of other games from rocking. history dictates that it takes time to come to grips with new technology. as the technology becomes more elaborate, the longer the learning curve for getting a handle on it.
we are at the stage now, nearly 12 months into the Playstation 3's life cycle, where developers who were brave enough to take a stab at early PS3 development, have learned how to work with the machine, whereas developers that were wishy washy, afraid to try a new way of thinking, will probably continue to have problems with the system, and complain about it.
either they will shut up, and learn the console, or they'll continue to b*tch and moan, or pull out of development.
the way i feel, if they aren't even going to put in the effort to learn the consoles intricacies, then i don't think i should put in the effort to play their game. i'm not paying $60 a pop for a [email protected]
unlike last generation, however, i'm a lot more judicial about where my money is going. i know game development isn't easy; i've *WORKED in the gaming industry for over 3 years, and i know how hard it is. but there is a time to b*tch and moan, and there is a time to roll up your sleeves and get to work. i'm glad Infinity Ward, and quite a few others (Kojima Productions, Team Ninja, Insomniac and Naughty Dog, Ubisoft, to name a few), have decided that the investment was worth it, and bothered to learn the PS3. it's a good machine, and is capable of some pretty fantastic stuff. and PS3 owners deserve some quality software, considering the investment we've plunked down on the machine.
fortunately, there is plenty of software that is looking *FANTASTIC, and that's already out that's fantastic, so, personally, i'm not disappointed with my purchase at all.
What about that loser who used to work at Harmonix and attacked Sony on his dumb blog? Talk about idiots, he's a big one. He sure looks foolish now. I think I'll have to find his blog again and post this article on it for him.
the developers get used to making games on it and when that happens it's a wrap ....there going to start making some crazy games on it...this is good for gamers like myself
no matter what console
no one could said better. bubble 4 ya'
thats why we got games on time from Team ninja. and COD4 devs Infinity ward. i will support them to the end because they rock. awesome devs deserve our money.
and comments like this from the developers will finally shut-up the lazy developers who whine that the PS3 is harder to develop for.
Infinity Ward deserves applause. Not only did they make a excellent version for the PS3, but managed to make the other versions identical, with the PC being the best graphically depending on the user's computer.
Now I'm curious for what's new for Infinity Ward in the future as far as PS3 games. Sony should buy them out lol.
Call of duty 5 future warfare. DuH with laser guns and Mechs and jetpacks.
CoD 5 will take the series back to WW II.
They had better not. I'm sick and tired of WW2 games. They should stick to the modern era or do what socomnick said and go futuristic with jetpacks and such.
only lazy devs looking for a quick buck will complain about PS3 development
Good I want a reason to get a PS3....although I will probably hold out till MGS4 or God of War III....
seems like developers are having no problems with development of PS3 games when they build from the ground up on the actual system. so far it has seemed like all the "problems" have been when porting 360 code over to the ps3, with a few exceptions of course.
hopefully companies will take the hint and develop ps3 and 360 versions of games independently on each system, so that we can have identical looking games on whichever system we choose. well done infinity ward.
hope ea will be doing just as good of a job as they do one day.
IW, will you please share your knowledge with the rest of the PS3 devs that don't know what they're doing?
everyone knows it's possible to make amazing games for the PS3, Sony wouldn't have made it if it was going to be crap.
I only wish they could shut up that fat Valve developer guy.
But this is great news.
call of duty is the most graphically impressive multi plat to date and it looks just as good on the ps3. and the ps3 still has alot of potential, i seriously cant wait to see what this thing can do 4 years down the road.
actually god of war will show what the ps3 can do.
and now they have gained my respect and since they've don that, i will support them until the end, i know alot of people cant seem to do that now days
INFINITY WARD YOUR A GENIUS
Actually PS3 graphics are way superior to xbox games.
Ratchet & Clank
your that guy......
Resistance - graphics are OK
MotorStorm - graphics are amazing in motion , but when the car stops moving the graphics are meh
Folklore -never seen it yet
ng Sygma -quite decent but not next gen material
HS - Stunning, but they should really include more enemy's, and the animation movement is not as fluid as god of war.
Lair -have not seen it in person so cant comment
Warhawk -umm graphics suk but amazing multiplayer
Ratchet & Clank- stunning it is true it is like a pixar like graphics, but old school pixar animation like. Saw ratatouille yesterday on blu-ray simply stunning.
and the comments were going well until you came along with another list. No need for fanboy crap.
Calling Infinity Ward "Geniuses" is an understatement.
Full 4X AA, 60 FPS, 1080P, all this on a multi-platform game along with Multi-player options that are some of the very best we've ever seen.
Seriously, these guys rock !!
why cant 3rd parties, great developers no the deal, just like gamesr4fun said
How much do you think Sony paid him to say that? Well, it was on the Playstation website. Maybe he said it, maybe he didn't.
It it was so easy to develop for, then why the heck is Killzone still not released years after the PS3 came out, and it is being produced by Sony and they supposedly know their own system?
Do you know how dumb your statement sounds? People like sony dont rush out their products, not every game has the same development time, im pretty sure your a troll since you dont think before you post.
"why the heck is Killzone still not released years after the PS3 came out".
A year = 365 days. Math is not your strongest point, I suppose.
Infinity Ward proves that if you commit and give 100% you can make excellent PS3 version of multiplat games, and there were no delays for the PS3 version and no difference with the 360 version
Good job guys
IT was always said to be easier than PS2. However, it's hard to port from 360, since architectures are different. You can do things on PS3 that you can't do on 360 too, while you can do things on 360 that you can't on PS3. And while PS3 is more expensive, it gives you more bang; 360 can become more expensive too (and it could be worth it). Yeah, 360 has more games NOW, but PS3 will catch up in 2008; remember, PS3 will have Japan, you can't deny that. Overall, you will get the same with both, in terms of price and value for the life of both consoles. OF course, nothing is a certainty, but that's what is likely to happen, and I hope both Sony and Microsoft can learn something from each other for the following generations, so that Sony doesn't fall behind with lateness to the market and high prices, and that Microsoft doesn't bring rushed products and gets more variety in their games to fare better in Japan. =)
It's no big secret that you can't take the methods for PC and 360 programming to the PS3. I won't say it makes other devs who don't do as well garbage, as I'm sure they do well in their area of expertise, but at least someone is showing that it can be done, and done well.
COD4 looks just as good on ps3 as 360, think we can all be happy! Now for them to start pushing for cross-platform multi-player...
They are infinity ward.
...Infinity Ward developer of the year.Simply for NOT having a lead platform.
not when it is built from ground....
devs should learn a lesson, it should not be a valid excuse anymore from now on
I think they should require devs to show them a multiplat game was developed for the PS3 and not ported from 360 code. If not they can just refuse to licence the game.
i betcha this game doesn't use unreal engine3.i bet it's an in-house engine.
use the same type of old techniques and cheats,and gamers lose.infinity built both from the ground up.no memory issues,no graphics issues,no online issues.basically 2 great versions.
it makes EA,the biggest dev company,look like money grubbing whores that spend less on making a game,and more on advertising the crap out of their products.
it should send a message to gamers on expecting more from these devs for the money we spend.it's why i have pretty much boycotted 99% of all EA games.only a few impressed me in the last couple of years."a few."and that's all they deserve,a "few dollars" from me.it's why activision is kicking EA's @ss now.quality over quantity.activision is not perfect either.but they are trying HARDER.
we need more companies like infinity,tecmo,sega,etc.who make games,not complain about the work.
get it done,reap the rewards.
AKA Shut the f#$k up you lazy freeloaders who think making a top quality PS3 game can be done like a Wii... after this I don't think you will hear much complain unless they want to feel like idiots. Besides your typical PC Fatso like Gabe Newell who had his mind made up before he ever touched a PS3. IW just made all-round bad ass game.
IW just gave EA a big FU !
Man I cant wait to finish work.
Should I go straight home and play COD4 or go buy GH3 on the way?
are a class development team. The best developers make the best games, its as simple as that. They take the time to negotiate any issues and learn new skills. The quality of COD4 is a testament to their great work. Good Job IW.
Well it shows in their work. How many other developers, regardless of the platform, have given us a 60fps shooter? Outside of Insomniac, I can't name any.
The game RUNS ULTRA smooth on my ps3..... but bare in mind everyone it really does not seem like 1080i/p
It feels like it is upconverted a bit from 720 p. I have to agree with gamespot on this one. I tested it on a small 27 inch lcd and a 100 inch projector... it does not seem crisp as lets say ridge racer 7 or pc games running at 1280 x 1024.
I was playing graw 2 before COD4 and it was not bad frames, but now switching back and forth from the two games.. graw is quite choppy
Since when does the PS3 upconvert the vertical resolution?
If the game runs in 1080P then the vertical resolution is 1080. Horizontal can be from 960, 1280 to 1920.
Anyway, it is not 720p upscaled to 1080p.
When you switch between 720 p to 1080i....
There is litterly no different, the only thing i notice is that the gun itself is a minor difference in the fatness of the gun.
But more importantly compare it to a game that does have 1080i/p capability, You will see that these games are miles ahead in crispness.
It kindov reminds me of warhawk and rainbow six vegas, when you force it to 1080i it actually makes the image quality noticly blurrier.
But in the case of cod 4 I dont notice the blurryness, but then again t he resolution doesnt really seem to have change either ( though it does say on the monitor settings projecting at 1080i).
In the end it seems that it is software, games like warhawk and rainbow six vegas can make the screen outputt at 1080i BUT they actually look worse than 720 p. I have a 100 inch projector and it shows ever minor detail since its so big. And I do notice these thigns when I change res.
I cant get my hands on one :(
Me either so im just going to have to get one off of gamestop or wal-mart websites
infintyward need to make a football game or some one to make e.a make quilty football game again after this yrs madden ill never buy another game from e.a. till they stop trying to copy one version to 5 differt systems make them from the ground like last few teams have. nauty dogg infintyward insomniac ubisoft have gained alot respect from me as a gamer ill buy there games for sure i know nauty doggs and ubisofts isnt out yet but there gonna be great i can tell
I am starting to see and read more about how developement on PS3 is being shared amongst developers that share the common interest for creating content on the PS3.
Is it the same for Xbox 360?
EA and others (i.e Gabe)no more feeble excuses now, they need to stop being lazy with porting games over and get to dedicate their time to develop for the PS3 properly.
.. we should let Infinity Ward do ALL the quality control on ALL games for the PS3 and XBOX 360. "NO GAME" will hit market until it is up to Infinity Wards standards.
If the games turn out to be like COD4, it is a WIN WIN for all.
(Of course I know this will never happen and it is a bit in fun, but in my book, IW is on THE TOP of the hill ... hands down)
Now any Developer who says that it is hard making games on the PS3 just sucks as a developer.
From now on all multiplats will be as good as or better than the competition right?
Because the excuses have now been completely exhausted.
IW just kicked EAs lazy asses!
down and then dev's will have no excuse. As long as Sony keep getting tools out to devs to use, we will see the huge shift in good looking games toward the PS3. At a boy IW, keep it up!
Xbox 360 has the advantage of the architecture being close to a PC that makes development quick when you know PC programing. PS3 is different. once learned it is as good or better. PS3 just seems to get on a roll with negative press and it does not deserve it.
looks Like Game Noobwell, EA and and few other lazy devs just got owned by Infinty Ward
Gabe Newell never said it was difficult to develop for, just that you couldn't apply what you learned developing for the PS3 to anything else.
THEY ARE JUST FREAKIN AMAZING
It seems to me that in all honesty it's not hard to develop for the ps3 which Infinity Ward have proved as they have built both games from the ground up on both the ps3 and the 360 with nigh on identical results.
The problem seems to be "porting" games from the 360 to the ps3 and or when the 360 is the lead platform, thats when some developers have experience problems.
Now we are seeing games being made on both at the same time these problems we were seeing seem to be ironing themselves out.
thats my take on it
well duh! it's cheap
I never had a doubt about it because how come Oblivion, and Dirt are far better ports than the 360 version and EA and the rest of the developers are complaining? listen I own COD 4 for the PS3 and I had a 360, which I played the beta on, and let me tell you the game is graphically flawless... Don't worry about the online, it is smooth - however I had experience minor latency when playing 18 player match - and it has all the functionality the 360 has.