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Submitted by donniebaseball 997d ago | article

PS3 10% Ahead of 360 This Year Worldwide, 'Strong Contender' to Take Second Place

Xbox 360 shipped nearly 14 million units over the last fiscal year for Microsoft as the business grew 45%. The console and the Kinect camera have clearly propelled Microsoft forward in 2011, but in the end, a number of analysts still see Sony's PS3 edging out Xbox 360 on a global scale (despite a year's head start for Microsoft in the console wars). IndustryGamers surveyed several leading games business analysts to get their respective takes on the evolving console battle and who will end up in second place behind Nintendo's Wii. Here's what they had to say. (Industry, Microsoft, PS3, Sony, Xbox 360)

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firemassacre  +   997d ago | Funny
Thats how sony does it baby

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ksense  +   997d ago | Well said
notice how everyone keeps saying high replacement rates for the xbox 360. I feel that is one of the reasons xbox is still ahead besides the obvious year head start and year and a half in Europe.

@below Well I am just making a point about the article. I don't care if PS3 ends up third place as it has already taken first place as far as games go and games that resonate with me. The problem is that some xbox users defend their system of choice with sales and that is wrong. what shoudld matter is if the system is providing you with games that you really want and Microsoft has been lacking in that department with its focus almost entirely on Kinect. SALES DON'T MATTER unless you are a shareholder or an extreme fanboy that needs something to boast that their system is somehow superior because of it.

@superlupe I still have my 80 gb fat ps3 with backwards compatibility and I see no need to replace it with a slim console that has less features. On the other hand you have an xbox slim that has finally added wifi and is a lot less likely to RROD. so I think it would make sense to replace the fat one with the slim version so please use some common sense before spouting bullshit.
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gamingdroid  +   997d ago
What you consider important is different to everyone. For some, yes it is games and for others, it is other experiences like online community, maybe Blu-Ray and so on.

For some, I suppose it is sales. I find it interesting, but that factor doesn't shape in to my purchase (unless it is really bad and affects third party support or experience).

My point was that games alone isn't necessary the only appeal for everyone clearly as the Xbox 360 is still selling like hotcakes. Early in PS3's history, it was sold largely because of being the cheapest and highest quality Blu-Ray player.

Also, if all MS is selling are replacement, then it doesn't explain the strong software sales. As mentioned in the article, many of these used systems end up as second or third hand purchases.

Finally, the article is actually an estimate by an analyst that concedes he has been wrong multiple times in the past. It's not the actual numbers.
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squallheart  +   997d ago
I agree. @ksense me and my siblings all still have our ps3 fats and love them. I will only buy a slim when theres a price cut so i can use it for rpgs or games that i would play longer sessions seeing how they handle heat better. People need to use common sense. Most of the people i know are on their 4th 360 and ask why not buy a ps3 their anwer they prefer to own one bt cant afford it. Which then leads me to believe if thers a price cut theyll all jump ship.
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darthv72  +   997d ago
regardless of personal opinion and "analysts"....
there is obviously something of interest on all 3 platforms that continue to garner the $$$ from consumers.

Pick your side if you will but dont deny that consumers are not fans like we are. They buy what they want and enjoy it without the 2nd guessing of others telling them they bought the wrong thing.

I work with a few people that bought their respected platforms for their reasons. Not anyone elses. I dont downplay what they do because it isnt my place. I tell them about the stuff they probably havent heard of for their platform.

Gaming is just to damn fun overall to pick a side.
blackbeld  +   997d ago | Well said
Xbox 360 will end on 3th place.

That is xbox fate...
EVILDEAD360  +   997d ago
LOL @ the 'analyst' bringing up that he through 3 Xboxes as his only support for the 'active' user base. The best part is ALL of it is speculation.

The bottomline is that Micrsoft dominates North America and Sony dominates Japan. When it comes to Europe, Micrsoft has sold commendable numbers in Europe, but it hasn't penetrated all of the countries that Sony has since the ol' PS2 days.

No matter how you many analyst bring up RROD and all the supposedly dead systems being replaced, the Xbox Live active members is now 40 Million+. Kinect did 10 million in only two quarters.

In the case of software, Micrsoft's dominant install base is exactly where it needs to be. North America and Europe dominate software sales. This is why Microsoft can sell Halo 3 and get 11 million in sales..Halo Reach and get 8 million in sales..and Gears of War and get 6 million a pop. All on the strength of America and Europe.

It's the exact same for PS3. Call of duty dominates PS3 sales (as it does the 360), with almost no sales from Japan. But, where it hurts Sony IMO is the fact that the biggest non-Japanese Sony exclusive franchise like Uncharted, Killzone, Little Big Planet, etc. get little interest from the Japanese user base. The majority won't even sell 200,000 in Japan. Where the Euro/NA market push millions.

So in the end, all 3 consoles found different ways to achieve success. At this point in the game the 360 sales have no effect on the PS3 and vice versa. None of em' are going to stop the Wii from ultimately reaching 100 Million install.

For the record all my 360s from original first year to my Elite to my Slim all work just fine. My PS3 slim and my Wii have never had problems as well. (knock on wood)

Support whatever system you own..there are just too many great games to be mad about whose going to win this fake war at this point.

Evil
kreate  +   997d ago
@evildead360

confirming .. 'all' ur 360s from the 'original first year' to ur elite. to ur slim all work fine?

how many original first year xbox360s do u hav? to ur elite. to ur slim?
and ur saying none of them broke down?
nix  +   996d ago
i now have faith in humanity.
EVILDEAD360  +   996d ago
'how many original first year xbox360s do u hav? to ur elite. to ur slim?
and ur saying none of them broke down?'

That's exactly what I'm saying..don't believe the hype that EVERY Xbox must die just because a fake poll and a bunch a fan kids said so.

I bought my original first year Xbox and have since bought two white ones as gifts. I bought my black Elite as an upgrade and absolutely loved it. But, bought a Slim not too after it dropped and never looked back.

When PS3 unvieled the Slim I simply couldn't resist. Absolutely love it. I never liked the fat models, but only was going to buy one to be BC with Shadow of the Collosus. Fast forward and SOTC is coming in HD! (Life is good).

I own every console..just like every gen. But hands down this was the best console gen ever.

Evil
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DualConsoleOwner  +   996d ago
@EVILDEAD360 LOL "Fake polls" are you kidding me?
"That's exactly what I'm saying..don't believe the hype that EVERY Xbox must die just because a fake poll and a bunch a fan kids said so. "

Are you kidding me? RROD was a freaking epidemic. Former Xbox 360 designers came out and even said so.

Polls were done by reputable magazines and what not all said that failure rate was as high as 50 percent. Hell even the law makers in UK forced MS to extend their warranty to cover RROD.

thats how bad it was. LoL. only fankids like you are trying to defend 360 with bs.
bunfighterii  +   996d ago
Feel like its one of the reasons? It clearly is one of the reasons, thats what they're all saying.
mikeslemonade  +   996d ago
Haha Wii doesn't count so PS3 will be #1! PSN down and PS3 still is outselling 360 this year!
AngryTypingGuy  +   996d ago
Both Sony and MS work incredibly hard, so they deserve any success that they get. Even you Sony fanboys have to admit...MS has done one hell of a job staking its claim in the videogame market. After PS2 dominated by such a large margin, no one expected the 360 to still be in the lead in summer 2011.

It'll probably stay in the lead through the beginning of 2012. The reason I'm predicting that is because there is both a Halo and Gears game coming out in fall. While Halo Anniversary is a remake and won't do the numbers of a "real" Halo, it will do well.

The fact that Xbox Live will be built into future versions of Windows is a brilliant move on MS's part. I'm wondering why they didn't do that sooner.

Oh yeah...before you PS3 fanboys accuse me of being a 360 fanboy, let me just say that I've been playing my PS3 almost exclusively since I bought it a few months ago. Which reminds me...gotta get back to God of War!
RedDragan  +   996d ago
I just wanna say that due to the fact that my balanced and logical comments have cost me 3 bubbles and despite how much I want to comment I cannot risk posting an opinion... [see attached picture]

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Fel08  +   996d ago
@mikeslemonade

Last time I checked, the Wii was a gaming console. Whether u like it or not, it is still #1.
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miDnIghtEr  +   996d ago
@ksense... lmao.. sales don't matter to you, yet you just wrote a big old 3 paragraph response to a sales article. Ha.
SuperLupe  +   997d ago
I hope you guys stick to the "sales dont matter" attitude every time theres article about good 360 sales.

@KSENSE: 1. Bullsh!t.
2. I havent seen a fat ps3 in freaking years like a lot of other people unless its on a used console shelf... I guess a lot of PS3 sales are fat PS3 owners buying the slim...right ?

Whats your spin on that ?
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M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L  +   997d ago
Even if there was good news about 360 sales, sales still wouldn't matter. The only one worrying about what Sony fans think is you.

What matters the most are games either way. This must be your way of spewing damage control.
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SlyFoxC  +   997d ago
im still rockin the fat PS3...whats up!
Laika  +   997d ago
i still got my fatty
HannibalBarca  +   997d ago
My fat ps3 is still running strong
Ser  +   997d ago
I've still got my fat PS3.

Have at you.
morganfell  +   997d ago
Still got my 60GB Launch Fat. Just went from a 320GB to a 1TB drive. And two Slims in the house.
Electroshocked  +   997d ago
I still have my first 160 GB fat PS3, my friend uses it when he comes over, I bought a 250 GB slim a while back and I now use that, but the point is that I still have my 160 GB fat PS3, it's running perfectly and it's still being used. My friend also still has his 80 GB fat PS3. I'd like to see you giving proof of someone still having there first XBOX 360.
donniebaseball  +   997d ago
I still have my original "fat" PS3 too. Swapped out the 60GB HDD for a 250GB a couple years ago.
lil Titan  +   997d ago
with a name superlupe i expect to read intelligence but all i read is ignorance at least with this post...*checks other post* nope ignorance
kreate  +   997d ago
my original fat 60gb ps3 broke last year with the blinking red lights.

but .. i also went through 3 broken xbox 360s at the same time frame.
rrod. disk tray broken. the console not reading games.

were the problems i had.
InspectorG  +   996d ago
I still got my 60gb launch PS3, has never failed. Installed a 320gb drive in it, and it sings beautifully...
kingslayer1000  +   996d ago
i still have my fat ps3
Treyb3yond  +   996d ago
I still got my 60gig original fat console. That bbw is still going strong and serves me well. 360 is a dead console dude, I never use mine because it has no exclusives. Face it, ms have done it again....onto the next gen. They will drop 360 cold just like the original xbox when the new one arrives.
Tonys Creed  +   996d ago
I still have my 80GB (now 320GB) fat PS3 (MGS4 bundle) and got it repair once for YLOD. Works like a new!!
DaTruth  +   996d ago
My 60 gig is dead, but everyone else I know with a Fat still has theirs! I can't complain, I was on parental leave for 8 months and really put it through the works. It died one week later!

Don't worry though, if MS want to post big numbers they can just give away more 360's with PC's... and cars... and toilets....
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callahan09  +   996d ago
Anecdote: I have been a PS3 owner since 2007, I have owned exactly 1 PS3. I have been a 360 owner since 2006, and I've bought 3 of them. My personal experience is that the 360 wasn't reliable enough until the new slim version came out last year. PS3 has been much more of a high-quality piece of hardware since the start, though now those new sweet 360's give it a good run for quality and reliability I think.
bebojet  +   996d ago
I still have my 80 GB PS3 and I recently upgrade the HDD to a 320GB. How's your fat 360?
hiredhelp  +   996d ago
Superlupe

@KSENSE: 1. Bullsh!t.
2. I havent seen a fat ps3 in freaking years like a lot of other people unless its on a used console shelf... I guess a lot of PS3 sales are fat PS3 owners buying the slim...right ?
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WAKE UP CALL there are gamers still use phats. If you pay close attention to specially videos that show devs working on playstation alot of them in background what so you see running. PHATS, why because they look better more vents , apart from added extras. If they could put reduced chip's in the phat we bring them bavk out id buy one. I have gon threw 3 PHATS
YLOD replaced with sony that second hand had fault sent back got another after a year i sold that on to get a slim. I MISS MY OLD PS3.
SkyGamer  +   996d ago
How is it that everyone thinks MS will abandon the X360? You are so ill-informed. They used off the shelf parts for the original xbox and had no control over production. nVidia, (which powers the ps3 btw), no longer made the video card in the xbox and it would have costed a buttload of money. MS OWNS the chipset and graphics inside the X360. They can find another maker for the chips. That is why nVidia and ATI FOUGHT for the X360 contract. ATI eventually won because MS wanted to OWN the designs so they wouldn't have to have a repeat like the first Xbox. nVidia went to power the ps3. nVidia owns the 7800gtx. Just think if they discontinue that graphics...You think sony would still continue the ps3 if it didn't have an uber install base? No, they would cut their losses and make a new system, hopefully learning from their past mistakes.
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Jamzluminati  +   997d ago
I thought PS3 was already in second as of 3 months ago?

-We are watching
donniebaseball  +   997d ago
That was some report that looked strictly at "active" in use PS3s vs 360s. It wasn't a literal figure for installed base.
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XGamer  +   997d ago
I love how some idiot takes speculation as post this as fact in the title. loserrrrrr.
gapecanpie  +   996d ago
People have been saying this for years now and it still haven't happen ..... (Yawn) can we get some real news please?
kikizoo  +   996d ago
Hmm ? in your fantasy land probably, but it's real, each year since 2007, in reality.

by the way, lol@the fanboys always jumping on selling articles, the only thing they can play (forgetting that selling with powerfull marketing, it's just sad for them....exclusives, functionalities, free online, 3D, best hardware and motion controler, etc are way better for real gamers)
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gapecanpie  +   996d ago
@ kikizoo

Last I check MS is still second and where is your data for this year to back up what your trying to say or you just talking out your a**?

Your fantasy land more like it...
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SkyGamer  +   996d ago
at kiki...whatever. Best hardware, let's check..
blu-ray - more storage less speed... - subjective
cell - single core cpu with limited cache - outdated
256 mb ram - outdated
7800gtx w/256 Vram - outdated
wireless-g - outdated
2 usb 2.0 ports - outdated
still listing games for 480i on back of game - outdated

Really trying to grasp your idea on best hardware because it is really difficult to do
Just because a game company says it's the shiz, doesn't mean it is fact. That goes for all companies, looking at you MS when you stated that there would be no reason for IE to go above 6, lol.
subtenko  +   996d ago
I feel like Im the only one who doesnt ignore the fact that the xbox360:

1) had a high failure rate, in which people bought multiple consoles

2) release a year ahead

3) Had more sales because of the dropped support of xbox (unlike sony who still supports ps2)

I mean I dont care about the sales..sales are sales, so what? I just care about the content and quality and thats what matters mostly. Knowing that the ps2 is still supported, I can rest assure Sony will continue to cater to the ps3 for a long time too, and Im glad :)

Agree or Disagree if you Agree
SkyGamer  +   996d ago
Yes but look at this way. How many early adopters of ps3 just used it as blu-ray? Goes both ways.
gapecanpie  +   996d ago
Awefull logic....
zeddy  +   996d ago
most people buy ps3's for bluray and thats evident in the software sales. mostly everyone who buys a 360 is getting it primarily for gaming. it is annoying when the 360 and ps3 are almost equal in sales yet uncharted only sells just over 3 million. doubt sony mind though atleast they're shifting units.
xPhearR3dx  +   997d ago
We heard this last year, the year before that, and the year before that. Give it a rest already, if it happens it happens. If it does, then write about it.
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LaChance  +   997d ago
Did anyone read the article ? Their figures are based on "surveys".

Crap figures for a crap article.
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paintsville  +   997d ago
It's the classic sony defense. but lets forget that ps fans aren't worried about sales, right? Well that is until an article like this shows up. Entire thing based on surveys...do the moderators even read these articles before they approve them? Classic programming..garbage in equals garbage out. I'm only interested in the facts. The way it is now 360 has a much larger world wide installed base and would be even larger if Japan wasn't so opposed to buying imports in general.
DigitalRaptor  +   997d ago
It's cool that's you're interested in facts and all, but why do you pretend that 360 fans don't do the same things that PS3 guys do. Maybe there are more PS3 supporters on this site, but the whole web is packed with equally biased views from both sides.

And in answer to your point that the 360 has a much larger installed base... much larger? How do you define "much"? ~4 million is a large number but in terms of units sold/shipped/whatever, in business is next to nothing, especially when you compare that the gap was ~8-10 million units when the PS3 launched.

So on that factual basis, the PS3 has been selling faster and better each year than the 360 has and software sales (multiplatform) are no longer much higher on the 360 like they were a few years ago.

You deal in facts, so explain to me how none of that is relevant?

Anyway, I know you probably get sick of seeing these articles, but it's the fault of the media who spread this bull when it suits their agendas. In fact so much of the hate has been spread by media sources and flamebaiting authors.
TyrionL  +   997d ago
@ Digital
"why do you pretend that 360 fans don't do the same things that PS3 guys do".
Can you show me where he said anything like that anywhere in his comment? I didn’t see where he said anything close to, “Xbots don’t do this”.

I always see you getting so defensive when people call out the Sony fanboys, but I think you imagine a lot of it. He just made a comment about this article, and you swoop in like Captain SDF, and start putting words in his mouth. To be honest it’s unnecessary.
I also want to point out that Sony catching up with MS at the tail end of this generation is not anything to brag about... Unless you’re a Xbox fanboy. Sony has been dethroned after 2 gens of complete domination, anyone that argues that is lying to themselves. If anyone is the king now it’s Nintendo. I guarantee that if anyone was told that the big 3 would be in this position before this gen started, they would have been laughed out of the room.
You are right about this site though, it is over run by the Sony side. This is the site we’re on so there is no reason to bring up other sites. I hate it when people do that.
Guy A : “This is N4PS3G.”
Guy B: “You should have been here 5 years ago, it was a 360 troll heaven”
Guy A: “Why do you PS3 people act like this?”
Guy B: “ Because Ya’ll started it”.
I hate when people blame their actions on someone else.
So because some fanboy douche bag acted like a douche 5 years ago you are going to act that way now? You hated this guy when he did it, yet it doesn’t bother you to act that way.
F%^ing hypocrites.
Oh, and by the way, to me 4 million is a hell of a lot when you consider the giant Sony was. They went from undisputed heavyweight champ, to equal in one gen. No matter which way you flip it, that’s is a huge win for MS, and I don’t mean that like Sony is doing bad. They are both kicking ass, and that can only be good for us as gamers. I bet we would all have hated it if MS would have failed and Sony would have keep the same attitude they had at the start of this gen.
units  +   997d ago
we hear every year about ps3 passing 360
still hasnt happened
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zerocrossing  +   997d ago
Maybe not in the US, but it has been for along time in the rest of the world :)
SuperLupe  +   997d ago
Yeah but EU + Japan =/= World. Kind of funny I have to tell that to a Sony fan, how ironic.

@below: sorry dude that sucked. The world = The world NOT EU + Japan only. And USA + EU + Japan (+ any other country) = World = 260 STILL ahed of PS3.

Spin it all you want it wont change anything, I promise :)
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spektical  +   997d ago
yea but SONY outselling 360 comfortably outside the US... kinda funny i have to tell that to a 360 fan, how ironic.
zerocrossing  +   997d ago
@Lupe I don't get your point EU + Japan have a higher majority of Sony fans in total when compared to MS, Americans are bigger fans of Xbox that's a given considering the company is American and aims to appeal to Americans and that's fine, But if your talking world wide popularity PS3 wins its nothing to cry about and it takes nothing from the 360 fans, Other than those who need to believe the 360 is some kind of almighty god console that wont be out done till xbox 720.

Im not a fanboy I just tell it as it is.
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BlackSharinganX  +   996d ago
@Super lupe = super retard? dude he said the rest of the world excluding the US how can you not get that simple sentence lol.
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M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L  +   997d ago
Lupe, no amount of spinning will change the fact that the PS3 is gaining on the 360. :)

That goes for anyone else making excuses for Microsoft. They had a lead start and yet they can't overtake the Wii *or* beat the PS3 once and for all.

Hilarious.

EDIT?: Just keep spinning, just keep spinning...spin, spin, spin. :)
Are you seriously deluding yourself into believe the PS3 can't overtake the 360? The 360 had a headstart and YET the PS3 sold over 50 million consoles? They can't even overtake the Wii!

Wow. Spin some more.
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SuperLupe  +   997d ago
Yeah dude whatever.

Almost 6 years in and the PS3 is uncapable of overtaking the 360 though Sony sold 220 million consoles in the past as undisputed champion compared to MS's 25 million xbox's and MS is the one who has to make excuses ?

What delusional world do you live in ?

Anyway, I know I just wasted my last bubble responding to such a dump post but hey no biggie lol.
negative  +   997d ago
Nothin for nothin... but SuperLupe is right. 6 years in and Sony is still playing catch up.

XBOX/XBOX LIVE FTW!!!
maniacmayhem  +   997d ago
@marshow
Wow, who is being delusional and spinning? because i think you're spinning out of control. I don't care about sales but i do find it funny that the sony brigade year in and year out always praise and chant that the ps3 is catching up to the 360.

It has been 6 years and we still get these articles. And by your logic the ps3 hasn't beat the Wii also, with all its blu-ray, the cell, and excluuuusives. So i wouldnt even go there.
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Biggest  +   997d ago
But it HAS beat the Wii. BluRay and HD streaming beat DVD and SD streaming. The Cell beats whatever the Wii has (Is it the Mega Drive? I forget). I'm pretty sure there are zero people alive that would disagree that the PS3 beats the Wii in all but one subjective category.
MrDead  +   997d ago
@SuperLupe and blueshirt7749 how can somthing have been playing catch up for six years when its only been on sale for 4.5 years?
DigitalRaptor  +   997d ago
SuperLupe and all the promoters of the opinion that the giant has fallen...
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Did the PS1 & PS2 sell 100+ million in a day? A year? NO!!!!

PS3 is on track to do the same (or similar) numbers and it hasn't even dropped to $199. Starhawk isn't even out, Uncharted 3 isn't. Resistance 3 isn't. And Versus XIII isn't (will be huge in Japan).

So you think that a console that has already sold 50+ million in 5 years won't have sold close to 100 million in another 5 years? Given Sony's track record?

No-one is saying that the 360 hasn't sold HUGE numbers. They are saying that when all is considered, Sony are not that far behind, and looking at how they chopped the lead down by over 5 million since launch, by the time another 5 years has passed, is it so hard to believe that they will no longer hold that lead?

Some will say that by that time is would be too late, but then what the heck is point in counting numbers in the first place if any sort of lead doesn't count?

Just think about what you're saying.
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rob-E  +   997d ago
@ SuperLupe

Almost 6 years? Really? I could have sworn the PS3 was released in November of 2006. That would make it less than 5 years in, certainly not "almost 6 years".
Snakefist30  +   996d ago
@SuperLupe Next Gen it will be Microsoft who will be playing catch up.Maybe they will end at 3rd next gen!
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hiredhelp  +   996d ago
Units. Lol that a lame joke?

Passing of 360 for the past couple years is right. For get the units the EXCLUSIVES
Some ppl need to engaged there brain think what they buy there systems for.

Plus not everybody needs to rebuy a new system every year. Maybe just maybe reason why sony hasn been in leed isnt cos not selling but there consoles havent played up half as much. So why need to pay for one unless for another reason.

See way i see it ms finally got off there as@ and actually acknowledged there was a fault. But took them 2 years to do something solid about it. That was the elite.
Then when ps3 launched ppl didnt get breakdowns till at least about 2 year into it for some that is. That was from everyday use. Unlike my old white 360's 6 consoles but cos no ps3 we bought another console 360.

At least when the phats did get ylod. They didnt blame consumer or try defend it. They went back did a redesign.
JellyJelly  +   997d ago
I thought it was based on statistical numbers but turned out it's just analysts speculating. Not that anyone in here will know the difference...
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donniebaseball  +   997d ago
The 10% is based on numbers. Sony has been tracking ahead of Microsoft by 10% in console sales globally in 2011. Sony is catching up despite big momentum in North America for 360.
Kurylo3d  +   996d ago
no the 10% is not based on numbers... u should really site your sources before you talk out of your butt.
Sinner101GR  +   997d ago
We can thank KB for this.
Fishy Fingers  +   997d ago
Some of you guys still think this stuff matters eh? Cute.
dgonza40  +   997d ago
i just come for the comments lol
Bonobo12345  +   996d ago
right? I care about games, If its the best console I couldn't care less if there are less sales!

I look at what the service provides me and make my own choice, I don't get convinced by commercials and friends telling me what to get, I make my own decisions and think for myself.....
jacksheen0000  +   997d ago
I figured Sony would surpass Microsoft by 10% in sales

Sony console has more going in the media department. Not to mention, all the 3d/VR stuff that Sony has aggressively been putting on the market has made the PS3 even more attractive.
MysticStrummer  +   997d ago
It doesn't matter, really. A console's sales numbers at the end of the gen don't determine the quality of the console, just like a game's sales numbers don't determine the quality of the game. Having said that, as a MS hater since well before the original XBox, I will root for Sony to surpass them before the Wii-U shows up. If they don't, that won't suddenly erase all the good times I've had with my PS3 and it won't make me want to play those 360 exclusives that I had no interest in before. If it does happen, it will just make me smile and think of N4G.
Redgehammer  +   997d ago
You and I feel the same way, just reversed.
ghaleon1980  +   997d ago
And so what if Sony pulls ahead (albeit by a small margin) this generation? Gamers win overall becauwe of great competitition! Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have really been pulling out all the stops... I mean, look at how versatile our systems have become:

1.) Fantastic online gaming for those that like to compete as well as an online community.
2.) Motion control gaming for the casual gamers that also allows for great party games.
3.) Netflix, Hulu, Facebook and more for those that use their consoles as a media hub.
Redgehammer  +   997d ago
Truth alert Truth Alert--Someone give that nameless disembodied internet user a bubble.
spektical  +   997d ago
competition is good.

im glad people are beginning to see that the wii is just a novelty.. it would've started a bad trend for next gen had the wii continue to succeed.
donniebaseball  +   997d ago
True, having MS and Sony go at it should produce better games in the end for consumers.
SuperStrokey1123  +   997d ago
Does it even matter anymore? Both system have achieved more than enough of an installed base to garantee that they will all get almost all of the others games.
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punisher99  +   997d ago
It doesn't matter what position the PS3 is in currently. The day the PS3 came out it had a 9 to 10 million deficit. Guess what that deficit is now. Roughly 3 million. The PS3 has outsold the 360 WORLDWIDE every year since 2008. The 360 is still ahead, but the PS3 has sold more per year vs. the 360.
Jocosta  +   997d ago
It's amusing to read this and match it up with articles from last year, then the year before that, etc, etc. I see the ole' year head start excuse is still there, oh look, no mention of RROD all but negating the year head start. Oops, sorry, I forgot that the RROD caused MORE sales due to replacements. It's as if you guys write from some Sony liturgy, expounding on faults of "the enemy" only when it's convenient for the argument at hand.
BlackTar187  +   996d ago
how did RROD negate the headstart? If anything it caused me to buy 3 xboxs and im sure im not the only one who bought multiple 360's when ps3 had no game to really play like they do now.
Jocosta  +   996d ago
Your really dumb enough to buy multiple 360's when they were under warranty? Utter lies.
insomnium2  +   996d ago
@Jocosta

Um yes. Many people I know bought atleast 2 x360s. One to game on and one as a replacement incase it RRODs. It's really much more convenient to just swap the HDD and keep gaming than to wait several weeks to get your x360 back from MS.

I know it's crazy but it has happened a lot I would presume.
xtremegamerage  +   997d ago
Actually the gap is 1million.
DiRtY  +   997d ago
So far the Xbox is 600k ahead in 2011.
And what is this active userbase bs? I mean a lot of market research is done to get the "sold to consumer" stuff right and we are still debating about it.

There is no, ABSOLUTELY NO, way to count , estimate or whatever an active userbase. The problems start with the definition of active.
Tito08  +   997d ago
Dude, the more active and reliable, the less likely for the same person to buy a second system or replacement!!!!!
Platinum_k  +   997d ago
you're stupid... enough said.
cochise313  +   997d ago
I'm not surprised at this news; Sony has been putting out quality diverse exclusives for a while now. They are now reaping the benefits. If they have a price drop come fall it's lights out for the rest of the competition.
Solidus187-SCMilk  +   997d ago
ahaha this ISNT NEWS buddy, this is speculation/prediction from analysts they interviewed.
cochise313  +   997d ago
you mad?
MrDead  +   997d ago
We all know the PS3 sells better then the 360 thats how the gap between the systems has shrunk. After reading this comment section I cant belive that people are upset by this, just shows how pathetic some children are.
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banned_nope  +   997d ago
can you hear them coming?

the rumbling of footsteps of kinect fans are coming... hold on tight!
Phantasm  +   997d ago
Japan will always be a lost cause for Microsoft.

Japan: (roughly sold)

360 - 1.5 mil.
PS3 - 6.7 mil.

Europe and other countries will always be battlegrounds, but the PS3 has already won these territories this gen.

The PS3 has lost the states this generation.

Yes, the 360 had a 1 year head start, but we're 5 & 6 years into this generation with the 360 still about 3 mil. ahead of the PS3.

It's been a lot more competitive this time around with all 3 doing very well.

Next gen, I'd like to see cocky Apple enter the console scene just to see them get crushed by Sony and Microsoft.
Redgehammer  +   997d ago
If the PS3 passes the 360, wouldn't it be about time? I mean SONY was the king, and MS the upstart. MS has nothing to be ashamed of, because it was not even supposed to be in the race. I believe MS forced Sony to change its couse and try harder to please and engage its fans, and improve its online service. If it happens, I hope all of you number counters are finally satisfied, but just remember it took at least 5 years, and the entire world, for the most powerful console maker, on the planet, to catch the youngest, most inexperienced platform holder. Oooh impressive!

So many of you crack me up with the vitriolic attitudes you display toward a piece of electronics, and the people who are its users. I am a gamer who chose the 360, for my own reasons, and that does not make me hate people that are affiliated with, or love Sony. Hate is ignorance, and I endeavor not to be ignorant. Being an American, I think competition is the impetus that drives, and moves, our shared hobby forward. The gaming world would be a sad place without Sony, but the same could be said for Microsoft and Nintendo. There are 6+ billion people on this earth, and that means there is plenty of room for growth in the gaming industry, as well as room for all three of the console giants.
Bonobo12345  +   996d ago
I approve of this opinion, bubs+

I wish there were more people with this kind of perspective on things!
qwertyz  +   997d ago
360 is still ahead by 5 million worldwide because of kinect which is a useless device but people are still buying it anyway :/. do all of you really think nobody took advantage of the extended RROD warranty ? are you guys really that blinded by fanboyism ? why would anyone go out and buy a brand new console if they can get a replacement for free ? some of you console fanboys are emotionally attached to your outdated consoles that have been holding back pc development since 2006. you ps3 fanboys are delusional lol weren't you the same people that attacked dice because your pathetic console cant mach pc Battlefield 3 ? even xbots are not supid enough to compare their console to pc.
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Thoreau  +   997d ago
did you see that ufc kinect commercial. i bet you are hyped up for it. as for me, i'll take the numberous ps3 exclusive games over n.america's stupid love for the 360.
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BlackTar187  +   996d ago
some people had warrantties thru Best buy like myself so sending it to MS was a waste of time also there are tons of people traded in there sytem or bought a new one b4 the RROD extended warranty.

use your head sending a system to MS for most of the kids in this generation is way to long to wait so some bought a new one while they waited. Some alot used bestbuy warranties to return 3 of them(Which is awesome because i got to keep all 3 20gb HDDS)

QWERTZY can you sound anymore emotionally attached to your console? i mean the emotion for 360 on your behalf is outright overpowering.
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Redgehammer  +   996d ago
And BlackTar I am sure you have a warehouse full of empirical data that substantiates what other "kids" may or may not do, right?
JonnyBigBoss  +   997d ago
The PS3 is outstanding. Consistent games, reliable, powerful, free online, and more. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Clarence  +   997d ago
Nothing but the truth.
edonus  +   997d ago
First we are talking worldwide and remember Japan doesnt by 360s. If you remove Japan the 360 is killing the Ps3. But Japan is part of the world so Iguess you do have to count them. But Japan is totally out of whack with what gaming is and have shown a blatant bias against the 360 so even though we have to count their numbers this leave the results skewed.

Second, when you talk about winning or place I think that we havent evolved in our thinking yet. Up until the ps2 a game systems only value and way to make money was games, so how many systems you sold represented how many people would buy your games meaning the more you sold the more money you made. But now especially this generation our consoles are multimedia boxes that make money in way more ways than just selling software at a store.

I propose when you think winner we think of which company makes the most money off of their product. Tey never release those numbers but i think as far as consoles go Nintendo probably would be in last place, they sold the most of a cheaper product, and sold less software than either Sony or MS and have no revenue for movie download and downloadable games or dlc. This is why they had to jump out of this generation and release anew system already.
Optical_Matrix  +   997d ago
Nice damage control
Clarence  +   997d ago
@edonus
If you remove NA then the PS3 is killing the 360.
The point is each console needs support from every country in order to be successful.

Why do you think M$ spent so much money in Japan. They knew that without Japan there was no way that they could maintain their lead over the PS3.
edonus  +   997d ago
But look at the money being generated from Japan in software sales (the bulk of any game systems income) their numbers are a drop in the bucket compared to every other market. If it wasnt for the fact that their contribution only keeps the ps3 competing against the 360 they would be a non factor.

You cant remove NA because its the biggest and most valuable market. And actually MS is proving right now that they dont need Japan. If the 360s numbers from Japan were taken out of the equation everything would sretty much still be the same.
skrug  +   996d ago
LOL

First we are talking worldwide and remember US doesnt buy PS3s. If you remove US the PS3 is killing the 360. But US is part of the world so I guess you do have to count them. But US is totally out of whack with what gaming is and have shown a blatant bias against the PS3 so even though we have to count their numbers this leave the results skewed.

i'm sorry but i just had to do it...

anyways

You do know that Nintendo makes $$ per console sold since release. also Look how many Mario Kart sold. 20+ million, which is the 4th highest selling game on the Wii, 3rd if you dont count wii sports.
edonus  +   995d ago
The reason the argument doesnt work in reverse is because they do buy Ps3s in the US. In fact most of the Ps3 sales come from the US along with most of their software sells.

What you would like to potray is that I think the 360 should be outselling the Ps3 in every market....NO. I what I am saying is that since the 360 launched they have only moved around 1.5 million units in Japan.....adjusting for tastes and branding the 360 based on what it delivers should have sold more than they have if the market was a uncorrupted market.

Look at the UK the Ps3 is beating the 360 in sales but the 360 atleast has sales. The system is not a piece of junk sure you can have your bias and opinion but the 360 in it truest form delivers a one of the best entertainment experiences you can find. In fact if you look at it the Ps3 has actually statrted implementing features the 360 had, PSN store and throphies to name a few.

As far as nintendo goes it was speculation...but still look at the Halos and CODs and Gears, and Fables and other 3rd party games that sell 1-2 mil. Nintendo doesnt have that. Not to mention revenue from digital media and xboxlive membership fees. If nintendo was doing so well with the Wii why not ride it out until they really stop selling Wiis because the Wii is still selling. This tells me that despite all their consoles being sold they are still leaving lots of money on the table.
skrug  +   995d ago
@edonus

Maybe the Japanese are smart, they didnt/dont want to deal with RROD or pay for online? Espcially after the TALES game that went onto PS3 a year later, I doubt they have any trust in MS... And PS3 sold ~ 6million there. ~1.5 vs ~6 million is not that much...

compared to ~20million(ps3) to ~32 million(360) in the US
thats 12 million difference compared to only 4.5million difference

Each Nintedo game is sold at at 50$ [x 20+ mill for mario kart, thats over $1 billion for 1 game]
Mario Galaxy sold 8+ million. MG is the NINTH highest selling Nintendo game. so between the 3rd/4th highest selling game (Mario Kart) to 9th highest selling game (MG) the sales between ~8million to ~27 million
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edonus  +   995d ago
Thats a soft argument, as I said before even with all the issues and preferences one may have against the 360. RRod(this is actually a non factor considering they didnt buy the system before RRod was known, after the warranty was extended or after an entire new system that was designed to totally eliminate RRod). As for paying for online thats another soft argument because you dont need the internet to play the games, sure for multiplayer games true but everygame isnt mp and dont forget all the features that came along with the 360 and xboxlive(which is still the premiere console gaming network).

Even with that said the 360 does enough things right to have gained more sale than 1.5 mil. That number is like the system launched 3 months ago....its been out for 5 going on 6 years.The 360 is atleast good for half a million a year no matter what region or preferences. They should have sold atleast 4mil 3mil would be respectable. Its like watching a sports game and you see the referee cheating for one team with bad calls. In the first quater your looking at the players like come on get it together but by the half your like this game is BS. That whats happening in Japan...their market is BS.
skrug  +   995d ago
The RROD will leave a bad after taste even with a redesign... not only that, you expect it to sell 3-4 mill. when the PS3 is only at ~6 million?

ATM Japan is more into handhelds than consoles. Becasuse more (J)RPGs and other Japanese games are going/went into the handheld market instead of consoles.

And you cant say Japanese are against american products, look how popular Iphone is over there...
Noctis106  +   997d ago
Dethrone!
BitbyDeath  +   997d ago
Why do people care about sales when it should be about the games?

Sony spends it's money on getting more developers which benefits both them and their customers in the long run (they just picked up two more recently in the past month or two) while MS spends their money on timed exclusives and mass marketing which provides MS with sales boosts.

This is why MS has been out in front for so long, and people are proud of that?
Platinum_k  +   997d ago
There's more working PS3's out there than that 360. FACT
OllieBoy  +   997d ago
Not surprising. Sony is a worldwide brand while MS only caters to North America.
Petro  +   996d ago
Gave you agree even tho it should say: Microsoft caters more to North America.
HAF912  +   997d ago
there is no such thing as 3rd place for the xbox so far. MS has done a huge amount of damage to sony and has stolen a good portion of ps2 gamers era gamers who went for xbox rather than ps3.

they couldnt be more successful if they tried. Also, they charge an insane amount for multiplayer, and have few first party studios. They are getting money by the truckload.

Just saying...
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