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Motion gaming coming to a standstill

A misunderstanding of what constitutes a casual gamer has all but delivered a killer blow to the motion gaming movement. Like a political party, motion gaming has served a four year term full of broken promises to those who supported it.

Kinect has failed to wholly support a hardcore game and Sony’s PlayStation Move has been underutilised. And in the strongest indication that motion gaming is on its deathbed, Nintendo has moved back towards a more traditional controller for its next console, complete with a six-inch touchscreen.

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Inside_out2337d ago (Edited 2337d ago )

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Wow...motion gaming is dead. Somebody better hurry up tell M$ and the 10++ million people that bought a Kinect in the last 7-8 months...O_o

As a matter of fact according to M$, Xbox 360 has been performing above expectations with a 35% increase from the same time last year...bad it's all for not, Shaun Idontknow says it's dead because of...um...apparently a app named Angry birds has taken all the gamers away...0_o

Seriously, I doubt that Nintendo will ignore the same demographic that allowed them to sell 90+ million consoles. The Wii Fit alone has been a smash hit. You will see all of that and more on the Wii-u

fr0sty2337d ago

let's not forget the 8 million move buyers during that same timeframe. Or the fact that nintendo's new controller isn't used in multiplayer games, you still use wiimotes.

Jocosta2337d ago

waaahhh!1 I gonna hit disagwee just cuz I don't like the twuth! waahhh!!

punisher992337d ago

Are you a gamer or some kinda investor?? Definitely not a gamer because its not about how many of the product that sold. Its about the actual games the device has. And the fact that you even mentioned Wii Fit is an absolute joke.

Unicron2337d ago

10 million bought connect, yet it seems no one is buying GAMES for it.

24,000 - Child of Eden. What a joke. It deserved better.

gamingdroid2337d ago (Edited 2337d ago )

Child of Eden is a niche game and probably didn't have the marketing budget behind it. Blame Ubisoft.

Try Kinect Sports that has sold better than some hardcore focused Xbox 360/PS3 exclusives! AS of April of this year, Kinect Sports sold 3 million copies!

... and that is on a user base of 10 million Kinect owners. That is a 30% penetration rate.

jneul2337d ago

^^weird im sure sports champions is doing quite well also...2.4m according to vgc, so it's probably at around 3m by now:-D

gamingdroid2337d ago (Edited 2337d ago )

I'm not familiar with Sports Champions sales figure, but if you went with vgchartz, which is what I'm assuming you are going by it is 2.5 million.

http://gamrreview.vgchartz....

However, Sports Champions was bundled with the PS Move, so doesn't necessarily constitute a sale, no more than Wii Sports sold 70+ million units.

Can you provide sources for your numbers? It might shine some light on what those numbers really are.

gamingdroid2337d ago

That's odd, last I checked the Wii was selling as good as the PS3 based on the strength of motion gaming. Now we don't even need to talk about Kinect to understand that if this continues, the majority of gamers will soon be casual gamers in motion control world.

That's of course excluding motion control in mobile games.

Anon19742337d ago (Edited 2337d ago )

"As a matter of fact according to M$, Xbox 360 has been performing above expectations with a 35% increase from the same time last year..."

Where are you getting that information from? In the last quarter Microsoft reported, 360 sales were up just over 10% compared to the quarter the year before, prior to Kinect's release. According to Microsoft, when Kinect released, 360 sales for the quarter jumped up 20% compared to the year before. The next quarter, 360 sales spiked up 80% compared to the year before.

This past quarter the 360 posted an increase year over year of just 10%, only 200,000 units more than what it was selling prior to Kinect's release.

And have you noticed Microsoft suddenly stopped showing Kinect numbers? In Q2 it was "Yeah! We moved 8 million Kinect! Wooo!" In Q3 it was "We sold 2.4 million Kinect! Wooo!" In Q4 "So, um. Kinect is still selling. Trust us!"

Microsoft does this all the time in their earnings releases when they don't want people to focus on something - they just omit it. In 2007 when 360 sales were showing year over year declines, Microsoft simply stopped reporting 360 numbers until numbers started to improve after the price cut. They don't have to tell investors how many units they're selling. They just have to report revenues and make their books available for audit. That's what they've done this quarter with Kinect after yelling Kinect numbers from the rooftops in the past.

Now, suddenly, the 360's sales spike on the back of Kinect seems to have all but vanished and Microsoft stops reporting Kinect figures. You really don't have to read between the lines much to figure out Microsoft isn't reporting Kinect figures because the hype for Kinect has died off, and so have sales. In fact while overall revenue was up for the year, Microsoft's division responsible for Kinect and the 360 was almost in the hole again for the quarter, posting a profit of only $32 million.

If Kinect is doing so well, where has the growth gone year over year? What happened to the increase of 80% for 360 sales year over year for the quarter? Why are MS hiding the Kinect figures? Why is the division almost in the red for the quarter?

I think this guy may be on to something. Microsoft loves to crow about Kinect numbers and suddenly they're silent for the quarter, instead talking up old numbers for Kinect. Time will tell.

gamingdroid2337d ago (Edited 2337d ago )

Why do you like to skew data for your agenda?

***In fact while overall revenue was up for the year, Microsoft's division responsible for Kinect and the 360 was almost in the hole again for the quarter, posting a profit of only $32 million.***

First of all, that is NOT PROFIT, but income. There is a difference, read up on it. More importantly:

"Entertainment & Devices: $32 million, up from $172 million loss a year earlier [income]."

http://www.betanews.com/joe...

That is for the entire division which includes a lot of other products. Xbox is one of the areas that MS is making huge profits from. This includes all cost, so if they had heavy investments then the income will be reduced, but not the profit.

FYI:

"Entertainment & Devices.The division's revenue increased a healthy 30 percent year over year. Microsoft shipped 1.7 million Xboxes during the quarter days. Xbox console sales rose 79 percent -- that's 2.7 million units. "Xbox 360 platform revenue grew $293 million or 29%, led by higher Xbox Live revenue and increased volumes of Xbox 360 consoles sold," according to Microsoft financial statements.

For the year, Xbox revenues rose by 48 percent, to $2.7 billion.

***Where are you getting that information from? In the last quarter Microsoft reported, 360 sales were up just over 10% compared to the quarter the year before, prior to Kinect's release***

The number you are quoting, is not the number they are quoting. They are likely doing monthly as opposed to quarterly.

***If Kinect is doing so well, where has the growth gone year over year? What happened to the increase of 80% for 360 sales year over year for the quarter? Why are MS hiding the Kinect figures? Why is the division almost in the red for the quarter?***

You do realize that this is the slowest time of the year, Spring/Summer. All console makers makes the bulk of their sales during holiday season, around 40-70%. Besides, why would they release numbers if they are bad. It is common sense....

Also, they might be almost in the red because they have made major investments. Besides, they are posting a profit not a loss unlike last year. That's a positive trend.

Needless to say, the rest of your argument is biased speculation and hearsay with no real basis.

gamingdroid2337d ago

I must apologize to darkride66, my source listed it as "income". However, everywhere else it is listed as "operating profit" while some erroneously list it as just profit.

However, profit is not the same as income, and not necessarily the same as "operating profit".

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jacksheen00002337d ago

Seem to me that People are getting tired of Kinecting the DOT.

punisher992337d ago

I wonder what they are gonna think about Disney Land and Sesame Street? I know what I think. Pathetic.

punisher992337d ago

Its just a money grabbing gimmick. Its not real gaming in my opinion.

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