Ryan Hillis discusses what Nintendo should do if they truly want to compete in the next gen.
Nintendo needs to drop all the casual gamer gobbledygook
Agreed - or at least, they need to do both in a better way. I think maybe opening themselves up to more of an indie market could also help in some capacity.
That or stick to current systems. Remember, they want to make games for the DS, 3DS, Wii and the Wii-U. Make up your damn mind on what you want to support
It would be business suicide to drop the casual gamers... why would you make a silly comment like that? Nintendo needs to stream line and continue to support the casual gaming community (which is very large) and put majority of their resources (which currently they are doing) in their efforts to stake claim on the core audience. This can only happen if the WiiU hardware is good enough. Core gamers are like sports cars junkies.... they care about horse power not if the steering wheel as a LCD screen on it.
Nintendo doesn't need to cater to the hardcore crowd. There are enough viable options out there for them. Who really wants the Wii U to be an updated Playstation 3 or an updated XBOX360? Nintendo needs to continue going their own direction. They also don't want to start selling their consoles at a loss. The casual market is growing at a faster rate and the Wii U will once again offer a different type of experience. Not everyone needs or cares about bleeding edge technology or cares about a well established online service. Millions only care about having fun and Nintendo has decades of experience in that area.
@ Levelhead I agree with your comment 100%. I know the people around here don't like it, but some of my favorite games this gen are on the Wii. They treat it like a dirty word on this site, but Super Mario Galaxy 1&2, NSMB, Mario Kart Wii, Punch Out, Metriod Prime 3,Donkey Kong Country Returns, and the best version of Okami, just to name a few. I do not dispute the Wii is primarily a casual focused console, but to deny the hard core offering is just keeping yourself from some very good games. Hell what do I know though, I’m just one of those ignorant gamers that will still choose fun over graphics any day of the week. I wonder when that changed? Somewhere down the line someone decided that being fun wasn’t the most important feature of a game.
lolwut? The Wii-U is a failure before it has even launched. The two days that followed its announcement Nintendo stock dropped by a whole %10. There's a few reasons for this. One is that they're amping up the hardware for the core gamers, but at the same time they're marketing towards the casual gamers, which in turn drives the core gamers away. The amped up hardware drives the price of the system up which in turn drives away the casual market. One of the biggest reasons that the Wii sold so well to families and casual gamers was its small price tag. The Wii-U won't be able to match that. Nintendo has split their new console in half by attempting to reach two radically different audiences, and this sort of strategy often ends in failure on both ends.
The casual market doesn't buy third-party games and therefore doesn't count for much. This fact is the ENTIRE reason behind the creation of the Wii-U.
Nintendo need to open up SNES portfolio begin banking on those up-graded games on wiiU
Nintendo just needs to watch and learn from what is working out there right now.
They spend too much time playing catch up and trying to rely on motion and 3D gimmicks. Still live nintendo but just wish they weren't so far behind.
Sony is just as big on motion and 3D gimmicks as Nintendo is. The Move, PSeye, their new 3D TV, 3D PS3 games, etc. Just saying.
That is a good point. But Sony makes good games.
To silencedwriter: And Nintendo doesn't? Seriously.
Um, so does Nintendo? Lol.
Yeah but to be honest I'm not a huge fan of Sony either. I prefer the Xbox above everything and they tried something genuinely different with there motion stuff. Kinect still isn't great but its nowhere near as bad as Nintendos stuff. Also PlayStation and Xbox have far Superior hardware and software to Nintendo which was my original point. Unless Nintendo can pull in a market that isn't family orientated then they are going to be in trouble.
wow Kinect has worse motion games than any wii game
can someone mention some Nintendo software that they consider hardcore and then give some sales numbers. Cause I cannot think of one good Wii game to be honest. PS3 and Xbox have better games for core gamers
Well Super Smash Bros. Brawl sold over 10 million, O wait! That's not what you wanted to hear is it?
any others not featuring Mario? I dont care so Im glad they had 1
Twilight Princess? Donkey Kong Country Returns? Pretty sure that's sold over 4 million. Metroid Prime 3? Over 2mil. Not much for a first-party Nintendo game but still a multi-million seller.
Dkc at 5 million and Zelda at 5 million. Note these games out sold uncharted 1,2,3. GT did bad also I think 2 mil? Ps3s biggest game was cod at 5 mil. Lots of their games only sold 2 mil. If that is what you believe is a hardcore following then Sony will have to abandon you and stop making sequels to those games since they clear are not selling yet they have huge hype behind them. Also you have to go 20 games deep to find dkc and even more to find the 2 mil sellers. I mean come on red evil 4 wii make sold that much lol. True those games may look better but why is it I can find people playing brawl and Mario kart in droves online and a lot of nintendos top sellers do not get traded in yet that is all you see on the xbox and ps3 side. Games have to have replay value. I mean they have to actually be a game not a wanna be movie. Those are fun the grist time. The stories are not that amazing.
Try House of the Dead: overkill or Silent Hill. Why do you need sales figures? Just try them yourself.
As the Wii is number one selling console of the current generation(7th). Nintendo already knows about the problems that plagued the Wii, so the Wii U is being developed to rectify those problems. Holy smokes! The article has "dudebro" all over it! xd
Sales have meant nothing this generation. Look at the sales and compare them to the quality of the consoles and thier games and you will see that the sales are not indicative of console quality. Nintendo took advantage of the market be releasing a console with last gen specs at half price of the competition. It may have had an edge in price, but the games have been terrible, especially in the 3rd party area. The wii is running solely on mario and bad exercise games and yet it sold so much by appealing to the blue collar family market. The competition by comparison has been able to release and popularize new IPs of games and new technology that has become a standard for the current generation and beyond. The consoles that have the least in sales have driven gaming further than the wii ever could.
did you just say sales mean nothing. Im glad you're not running any business. You would run it into the ground like the Greek economy
Sorry. I didnt know there were so many nintendo stockholders on this site. I dont see how you could care about sales so much otherwise. My point was sales /=/ quality. If a console was released at 50 dollars and another at 500, which do you think would sell more? The 500 dollar console is obviously more well put together and offers more, but the 50 dollar console would sell more. You know what, I just realized that arguing with you is pointless. You are obviously a troll judging from your username and will probably use your last bubble to respond with another weak comment like that one.
Dude, why do you people just write Mario off like that every time you start talking about Nintendo? Mario Galaxy 1&2, and the NSMB are some of the most fun I've had this gen. I could do the same thing to Sony or MS, All Sony has is Uncharted and Killzone, or all MS has is Halo and Gears, see it's easy to bash when you discredit the best stuff right off the bat. Mario games are top of the line quality, yes they have a bunch of them, but ALL the main cannon stuff is excellent. Just because you are “too good”, are “too cool” for it doesn’t make it bad.
Your about 2 says late to the party buddy. This argument is dead and I clearly won judging from all the hate disagrees I got. If they disagree so much, why not responing with your own logical argument? Case closed.
Full agree... their approach this time around is clearly very different with a focus on 3rd party support (they already have dev teams working with 3rd party developers to get their projects up and running). They have out source the development of thier online infrastructure to a outside company that specialize in that (also new for Nintendo). They have said very little about their own 1st and 2nd party titles to keep the emphasis on 3rd party developers.
Hd is all that was needed ill be getting the new gear.
nintendo are making all the right moves and i dnt think motion control is dying thats a silly statement...but haters will hate i guess.....sony has motion control, microsoft has motion control, cell phones have motion control......no doubt in my mind the wiiu will win next generation.....it actually offers endless gaming possibility.
As for the shovelware, it's not like nintendo is making it themselves. Seriously, i don't get why people have the perception.
We may classify humans as intelligent, but that doesn't mean all of us are smart.
anyway sony started shovrlware on the ps1 and ps2 nearly 5000 games on both consoles most of them rubbish no shovelware on n64 to expensive to make
I wanted to say that you just said.. people are ignorant and other thing is that 3rd parties screwed Wii's reputation the most with lots of shovelware
Only noobies would complain about shovelware. The hardcore found their games all 30+ of them not counting the vc and wiiware. It's always been a problem. The truth is hd games don't really sell so they stay on the shelf longer. Half my list you can't even buy any more. Any one who says they only have Mario and Zelda are just collectors or casual hd core.
I just want more info on the console itself and the launch line-up then I'll be happy...oh and the price.
New dev kits this week I believe some already have theirs. Specs are becomng sold now and it's interesting. Expect spec leaks this fall.
regain fan support? they never lost them
Nintendo is doing well so far; but I think Nintendo needs to buy out at least one more game company like Retro Studios. The reason is, I m already seeing evidence that Nintendo is struggling with getting games out for the 3DS.And if Nintendo is having issues with getting KI ready the means their game development team is not big enough to handle all of the work load. Proof of this, is when Nintendo stated back at the 2011 E3 convention that the reason they can't do smash bro for the Wii U is because they are spending all of their time getting kid Icarus uprising ready for the holidays. Another proof:Nintendo hired team Ninja to do Metroid other M, which leaves me to believe that Nintendo don't have the skill-set to do it themselves. I hope Nintendo realizes that they can rely on 3rd alone to make the Wii U a successful gaming console.
This article was poorly thought out. Nintendo doesn't "invest" in those shitty 3rd party games. Hack publishers just throw them on the system because it's so cheap to do. The rest of the article is either subjective (i.e. Zelda, a lot of people loved Wind Waker's style) or obvious to everyone at this point.
Like stated above, this article screams dudebro. We want another Wind Waker. Of course we do. It was awesome. And the real problem with Nintendo, as I see it, is poor localization policy. You know, Operation Rainfall, Mother 3, blah blah blah.
Well that was a crap article, thank's for wasting my time.
Naw, these people who call themselves gamers needs to wash there eyeballs out and recognize greatness.
first off, nintendo did not make any gummy bear games, and secondly i like toon link more than real link
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