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When did it beat FIFA? @ Dave, ah right, I only have pes 08 and a demo for 2011(HATE 11 with a passion)
Who cares? I hardly play sports games, and if I want to play a football video game i'll pick the best one up, whether its fifa or pes.
@DarkCharizard_ If u dont care y did u comment :/
Lol, at least I stated my opinion. Your comment on the other hand.... *sigh* Again, when I want to play a soccer game, I'll play the best one. Whether that's PES or FIFA doesn't matter because they're almost completely the same :/
Actually no you didn't state your opinion on the article at all.. you made a statement completely unrelated to the article. "Who cares?" Isn't really what you'd call an opinionated response.
Pretty much consistently until either 2007 or 2008, depending on your taste.
PES 5 is still amazing.
Lol yeah because trailers always tell you everything about how a whole game is going to play. Not to mention how bad Konami are at hyping up PES games with trailers themselves anyway. As for the actual question, hard to know, PES2012 will tell since we'll be able to see if Konami have actually recitified the problems of 2011 and are still heading in the right direction, or not. If FIFA continues to stay the way it is (i.e. EA continue to be lazy and not change anything but kits and squads) then PES will catch up soon but I think despite what EA are saying they realise that PES is coming back into it again so they will have to up their game (which can only be a good thing for everyone).
I just think that PES has had a massive fall from grace this gen. Master league is no longer what it used to be and FIFA is only pulling further ahead. PES 11 was a mess.
Play real football retards
You did not need to call them retards for being a different type of violent. Football fans have their teams do the violence for them while in soccer the fans attack each other.
football fans are no different from game-football fans, they are fat/drunk pieces of s****!!! just play football yourself with your friends for fun, and also sport, no need to go all world cup...but at least don't play it on damn TV!! and not just football, all sports video games suck
@ x5exotic You're right, playing sports games is stupid. I could just play as my favorite team in real-life! Hell, i might as well load up the shotgun and start shooting my friends, first-person shooters are stupid too! Also, i might as well just walk out to the street, pull someone out of there car and start running people over and look for stunt jumps around my town, GTA is so stupid!!
anything you can't do in real life (cause it's impossible) like swinging blades of chaos and going Rage of the titans, devil trigger etc... and anything you shouldn't do(illegal) like street racing and killing people(would be fun actually) are okay to make games about..but sport games can be played in real life and guess what, it would actually be SPORT! any1 who disagrees is a fat drunk lazy [stereotype] you guess the word xD
With a clean slate, maybe they can bounce back
Nope I don't think PES ever will. Simply put, Seabass and his team don't have the man power or resources to compete with fifa. Each year the gap gets bigger and bigger while Konami plays catch up. I tried getting into the latest pes earlier this year and after a few hours in, I just couldn't stomach it anymore. It's not really all that bad but there is a HUGE gap in the defensive side of things. PES has no real psychical side to it's game and it really takes away from the overall experience. This latest fifa seems designed to take the defensive things even further. People claim master league is better than Career mode and maybe it is I didn't spend enough time in it to see for myself however overall, Fifa has a lot more options especially for online play. Then finally you have the license issue of PES. To think in today's age they can't even get the full license for the biggest leagues.. it's a big kick in the teeth when you're forced to use teams like Man Blue when in comparison to the depth of the fifa teams and licensing. The other thing working against PES is that EA have the money and resources to step up their game whenever needed if PES ever does come close to fifa. TLDR version: Nope pes won't be catching fifa this gen at the very least.
Cool story, bro.
Cool response bro, I think my IQ just dropped by 10.
One day ! (we hope)
I prefere PES11.....Fifa11 doesnt do it for me, it seems to cater for noobs. I played 5 games on Legendary and i already figured it out.
Depends what you mean when you say "Beat". Sales wise, no. I dont think PES will ever outsell FIFA. I reckon both series have the same amount of hardcore fans, the guys who know the games inside out, been playing it for years,keeps progress of development etc., but i think FIFA has nearly all the casual fans because it is most user friendly and mostly because of the huge marketing compared to PES. Quality wise? Well if we go by reviews, then probably no again. Lets face it, game journalism isnt the most reliable these days and they all tend to just go with the flow. I'll admit this gen's PES has definitely been way below par and this is reflected with the general reviews. But for me, FIFA is a very average game, a game that flatters to deceive. Yet going by the reviews FIFA 10 & 11 are fantastic football games, 'footballing perfection'-OPM, it got mostly 9&10/10s. Personally, yes, PES will beat FIFA. Like i said in a blog post i made about this, there is no pressure on FIFA, they can keep going on making small changes every year and still sell and do well critically. Whereas there is huge pressure on PES, they have to make big improvements from now on, so the only way is up for them. By the way, here is a PES 2012 video where Jon Murphy demonstrates some AI improvements: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
They should HD up ISS 64 to the XBLA or PSN, that was my favorite football/soccer game.
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