TSA: "Insomniac community manager James Stevenson has once again spoken out about the still all-too-vague new service."
The future makes me sad.
You have GameStop to thank for that.
cheapskates who buy used to save $3-5 carry some blame too.
I'm afraid b4 this gen is over all games will have a pass of some sort:(. Edit:Freaking retarded disagree fairies *Brings out flamethrower lets see you do it again :D* http://youtu.be/mUC1fkjzaV4
So you can use it on your multiple accounts if it on the same system, but if it's a different one (a friend's, borrower or renting it out) you might have a problem.
Sorry Insomniac, but I'm going to have to "pass" on this atrocious idea.
Its cool Insomniac, I'll buy his copy. Love some Resistance.
Maybe if we keep on complaining we will get something better. You know, like how everyone keeps on complaining about Sony and they keep on delivering better stuff. Just keep bitching.
Yeah except everyone will do it, it's already catching on and once everyone does it it won't matter what you think.
I think people should stop talking about the PSN pass. If you buy used on Craigslist and buy the PSN Pass, you are STILL saving money! Only now you are saving money and supporting the developers. If you buy it new, you have nothing to worry about and don't have to pay anything extra. The only scenario where it is bad is when you're buying used to only save $5-10 in which case you should cough up the extra money for it new.
I would actually prefer it to be at the PSN name level. So that you can use it with only one PSN, but on many systems. Thank god the slim doesn't YLoD, otherwise this pass would be really annoying.
True, like the author said, Sony should give more details on the PSN Pass system. We're just now finding out that we can also use it on multiple sub accounts.
and that its system level, as BryanBegins stated, this is worse.
I'm sure the slim fails and people are going to get screwed. For most this isn't really an issue. I play so very few games online and I always buy new (at $30 lol!).
Or both, linked to PSN AND the PS3 would be better
not worried about it, i play my games at home, 1 system, 1 controller, the best exclusives and myself...
i dont care, i buy all my online games new on week 1 to play online and not get destroyed. The only thing im worried is if we will be able to use the same game for 2 online accounts on the same PS3.
everyone complains about these online passes why don't uall try to come up with something that will work for every party involved. whether we like it or not these online passes are here to stay and will put a lot of money back into publishers and developer's pockets and rightfully so. How come every store make a killing off used games sales besides the people who actually made the game i don't think its fair. if you are planning on playing a game online for few months buy it new. If you are not sure use gamefly or buy it used try the 2 day free trail and than pay $10 to play online. I will rent all games that i am interested in single player wise from gamefly as usual and any game i am interested in online will be bought new at launch.
i don't care about the ten dollars, it's locking the game i paid for too one console so if i want to start a game in bed then continue in the living room i can't and that's bs.
who are using what they bought new in a legit way but what they are trying to do is control used game sales i guess there is no easy way out of this a lot of gamers feel like they paid full 60 they have every right to do what they want but i am with the publishers on this just because you pay for something once doesn't mean others can use to 4-5 different times on different consoles and i know i am one of very few who are on publishers sides i rather see some money go back to the devs than gamestop getting richer just look at how many studios have closed off in last 2-4 years in a way we are loosing some of our fav devs so we need to support them
And they have NO right to expect money from used sales.Does the car maker get any, do i as a musician get any , does a film company when you sell on a DVD?no. we just take it ion the chin but the games industry is the biggest greed monster in the world and we fall for it every time. Sadly, this is gonna hurt them too-a klot of students who would have been big gamers may now lose touch with gaming-I would have done and now buy tons of games-if they aren't able to join in with used titles. It' short sighted, greedy and childish. Here's an idea-if they want people to buy new and keep games forever and even get the poor to save up for their new games why on Earth don't they make them any effing good? Just make the games good enough to keep-problem effing solved. but, noooo-that might mean accepting that they aren't God's gift. Gamers agreeing with this are like turkeys asking for ten Xmasses a year.
i hope that psn pass thing isnt plastered all over the game case "literally"
when are you guys going to realize, its all greed. sony is starting the nickle and dime stage. face the truth. i have been gaming for years and its just not fun anymore.i cant buy a game without having to buy something else just to enjoy it.im done after this gen. personally i think my last game will be "the last guardian".i cant take the $60 price tag, dlc, online passes, shutdown servers etc etc.
Amen to that.
But when Microsoft charges you $60 to play online all is well right? When are you and Logic (above, love his hypocrisy btw) gonna realize that you're getting nickel and dimed? Sony evil, Microsoft good. XD
'Sony evil, Microsoft good.' That comment is starting to stick for me. Love my PS3 but come on, PSN Pass!? If this is all about pre-owned sales ruining profits where is the Xbox Pass hmmm? Shouldn't this have been announced across the board for all console manufacturers? PCs on the other hand don't need this BS. Serial key that comes with the game is used to authenticate online and its worked fine for YEARS so this idea of a PSN pass is just a way for Sony/Game Devs to leach money for functionality (online modes) that they always say is just additional content...
@ caseh Why doesn't Nintendo's Wii, Sony PSN, as well as some PC online titles charge you $60 to play online like Live? Shouldn't that have been announced across the board for all console manufacturers, hmmmm? Maybe to leech money?
'Why doesn't Nintendo's Wii, Sony PSN, as well as some PC online titles charge you $60 to play online like Live?' Thats Microsoft's decision, if they want to charge for their online services you have a choice...If you don't want to play online don't pay it. This PSN pass isn't a service as such, its an individual payment i'll be expected to make per game if I fancy playing online unless you buy the game brand new. Just because I buy a game pre-owned I shoulnd't need to pay extra to use it online. Same was if I buy a used car I don't need to pay the manufacturer $xxx to use the air-con
no its not ok either, thats why i never bought xbox. im not a cheap tight person but its the fact of the matter though. all gamers are doing is making CEO's pockets fatter and we have to work harder more hours for 4 hour single player "HYPED" campaigns and and buggy online and where does all our money go for "server maintaince"? it goes to the CEO's 5 million dollar bonus at the end of the year. i dont know why so many gamers are so blind and dont see that.i do, thats why im giving up.little by little my games have been getting traded in.
That is how it's been for centuries the ceo always makes more than everyone else duh, you have to pay for maintainence on the servers that are running 24/7 and the people that service them. Like everything else in an economy Over hyped 4 hr sp campaigns and buggy online, if you buy over hyped games it's your own damn fault, i have yet to play a 4 hr sp campaign game recently. Every game has bugs, both offline and online this is hardly new. I think your being over dramatic, dlc don't want it don't buy it, $59 games funny because i remember smb 3 was $59. Online passes, finally you have 1 valid point that isn't whining about your taste in gaming not being satisfied. Do it the way homefront did it and that is fine by me, but i will agree it is headed down a unappealing road. "i dont know why so many gamers are so blind and dont see that.i do, thats why im giving up.little by little my games have been getting traded in." Every industry is set up like that not just gaming, welcome to working for a living. Gaming is no longer fun for you, fine by me i am still enjoying it more than enough to merit the occasional inconveniences or cost. And your calling gamers blind with that poor grammar, if your words are that disorganised, why would your thoughts or reasons be any better. Our hobby is evolving, we can either adapt with it or give up like you are going to, if the occasional online pass is required so be it, i am a predominantly single player gamer any way. Lmao over hyped 4 hr single player campaign, play more than just shooters. Btw the value of a game whether 4 hr or 40 is dependant on how much enjoyment the specific user gets out of it, not a pre determined length.
The idea of a PSN Pass is a load of horse shit, I hear people going on about how we can blame Gamestop for this. If the whole reason behind this is pre-owned sales then why havn't Microsoft announced anything? And before anyone mentions anything about the fact you pay to play online with Xbox, I would happily pay the online fee and play what I want when I want rather than pay for a 'pass' just to try a game online.
So you would rather pay $90-$120 bucks (Live $60 + Game (Used/New) $30-$60 ) than pay $60 for a new game + pass with free online to play whenever you wanted (The pass come free if you purchase it new and it's only required once)? Great idea! Edit: Idk about you but if it came to choosing to pay an additional $60 fee just to play online, I'd rather just buy the game new then.
I'd rather they(the games industry)treated us with some respect(then we might even turn on the pirates)and asked us to do neither. It'money for NOTHING. It's a con. Used sales aren't this big scary monster and don't eat into new sales anything like hat they'd have you think-in fact most gamers that stick with gamning lng enough to make a big game buying contribution will have been poor at one point and stayed in touch with games via used games and taking away that option will see future possible gamers drift off into other more inclusive hobbies. You can see a shitty industry by the way it treats it's employees and customers and gaming is about the worst. This is shooting themselves in the feet and making them look like greedy kids. It's a simple rip off.
@Dante Yes I would rather pay a $60 (a year) fee for online so that I can pick up multiple used games for a fraction of the price. Look at it this way: $60 + 10 pre-owned games @ $30 - No need for passes = $360 Online pass: 10 pre-owned games @ $30 + 10 Passes = $400 10 New games @ $60 = $600 Now, which of those deals is the most appealing to you?
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