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Kotaku: Is Sony Quietly Removing a PS3 Feature?

A tipster sends us rumored word (and image) of an incoming replacement model for the 160GB Playstation 3 which brings with it a change in the way some people will hook the console up to their HD television.

Update: This isn't Sony removing the component cables. Rather, this is Sony complying with the AACS Final Adopter that states no Blu-ray players may have analog outputs (component) starting in 2013.

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M-Easy1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

If you want to slander Sony to Kotaku just to send a photoshopped picture and spell Sony correctly and boom you're a contributor. Gawker network at its best.

GameSpawn1837d ago

This is more just Kotaku perpetuating misinformation.

Look at the screen cap and article carefully and you'll find this is a GameStop announcement and NOT Sony.

GameStop is phrasing it this way so they can do two things:
1) Phase out and get rid of component cables
2) Make more money from HDMI cables which have a MUCH higher profit margin than component cables, because HDMI is to quote "More High Definition"

This is nothing more than GameStop taking advantage of uninformed and gullible customers to make more money. Unfortunately it leads to uninformed gullible employees perpetuating incorrect information and lies which then in turn ultimately feeds the fanboys, trolls, and fanboy trolls. Kotaku is one or more of those, I'll leave it to you to decide.

Fox011837d ago TrollingShow
MaxXAttaxX1837d ago

It's about component cables which don't give you the best HD picture in the first place.

For those future PS3 owners, get a decent HDMI cable online for $2.

@Fox01:
How is that a downgrade? HDMI is still there and it's better than component.

This, IF true, is only a change for future PS3 models. It will NOT affect/change/remove anything on any current PS3 models.

bayport1837d ago

I bet Hauppage isn't happy about this

Darkfocus1837d ago

it sounds pretty legit actaully according to this http://www.afterdawn.com/gl...

any BLU ray player after 2013 will only be allowed to use HDMI for HD play back(it's a piracy protection thing, which is pointless because it'll be bypassed in a week...)

seems like sony's just complying early

BlackKnight1837d ago

@GameSpawn

What are you smoking? Gamestop can't change the PS3's hardware internally to NOT support component cables. If anything, this is to make sure a Gamestop employees don't accidently sell component cables with a console that doesn't support it due to Sony.

This also means home users can't make any more HD videos of their PS3 games (like myself) since the PS3 encrpts EVEYRTHING that goes over HDMI, even if its a game or XMB. Xbox only encrypts when you watch a copyrighted movie/show/etc so you can record and making videos through HDMI.

For any new users of PS3 that want to record their games on this new system, you out out of luck. Also if your HDTV only has component, which many homes still have older 720P HDTV's with only that HD input type.

gamingdroid1837d ago

Dang! That will put a show stopper to all the people that vidcap their game play and post it on YouTube!

With every major release, it seems the PS3 has features taken away. That really sucks!

sdtarm1837d ago

@fox another troll? wow

Fox011837d ago

How am I trolling? Sony is obviously removing another feature from the PS3 and off course you guys are ok with it.

mastiffchild1837d ago

No, fox,they're complying with a law that states any NEW iterations of ANY BR capable machines must be only HDMI output. How in the world are Sony beung out of order here? It's justthe usual Kotaku anti Sony hate train that Crecente encourages since he made a prick of himself over the Home story he published when he was in a position to garner his site some real trust with a major industry player. Kotaku could have been getting world exclusives from Sony now and that burns away at Brian as he knows it's all his own daft fault. Face it, it wasn't EVEN that good a scoop to start with.

Hence any article made with a hate angle toward Sony gets on his awful blog. Again Kotaku get it wrong about Sony and again only a half arsed climb down rather than the apology any site with ANY class would print when their mistake and lack of ANY fact checking becomes clear to everyone and their monkey. Gawker, FFS, sort the shit eating grin wearer out before he makes your entire network even more of an intellectual toilet. He just allows ANY story space that hates on this company-I don't want to suck Sony's corporate dongle but, Christ, they aren't deserving of any more hate than MS or Ninty but the way Kotaku paint it, or try to, you'd imagine Kaz and Ken sit about munching on babies.

Obviously Ken's now mental but surely not even he's a baby muncher these days, is he? Don't tell kotaku Isaid any of that or it will be a "fact" and get turned into another hate article for Brian Crecente's collection(he doesn't even care who writes them or where they come from or even if there's a whiff of truth about ANY of it as long as he can help his little crusade to make up for his own schoolboy editorial mess).

SilentNegotiator1837d ago

Laws are killing off BR component support?

Friggin' ridiculous.

air11837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Lmfao! if that's true that is crazy... Kotaku going on a story that was made up by gamestop to take advantage on hdmi sales.

Looks like gamestop fooled more then just gamers that don't know, they got kotaku too!

If this is true it makes me hate gamestop that much more cause I have family that don't know anything but the name Of the game.

I still don't get how they get away with selling an open box game at full price. I don't care if all they did open for a display box, it's open!

Dee_911837d ago

i didnt even know you could get HD let alone watch a a movie in HD with component cables ...

AngryTypingGuy1837d ago

Whatever. Sony, just give us cross-game chat already! I mean honestly, how long has it been now?

MaxXAttaxX1837d ago

Nothing will change on current systems.

fr0sty1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Guys, here's a little information from someone who authors Blu-Ray discs for a living.

Sony is NOT removing the ability to output via component from PS3. PERIOD. Gaming and even most movies will still output in HD via component. When you author a Blu-Ray disc, you have the option to set a flag that disables the video to be output in HD via an analog source such as component. If this flag is enabled, the output will still work, but the quality of the video will be downgraded to a lower resolution format when it is output to the TV. This only applies to Blu-Ray movies, which you should be using HDMI to watch anyway. Nothing has to happen at the hardware level of the PS3 in order for this change to take place. The only thing that has to happen is the BD disc author flipping that copyright bit to on before sending the disc off for mass production, and it's done.

This is something that had been agreed upon by the Blu-Ray disc association long ago, that all professionally produced discs will not allow full resolution HD output via component by 2013. Just enough time for PS3 to live out the vast majority of it's lifespan. You guys will likely be playing or preparing to buy a PS4 by the time this even takes effect. Just fear mongering by Kotaku.

kikizoo1837d ago

"With every major release, it seems the PS3 has features taken away. That really sucks! "

even if that kind of troll were right (but they don't), they forget that even with more"features taken" in the future, ps3 will always have more usefull features than their outdated system of choice :)

fr0sty1837d ago

Also folks, to clarify since I've gotten messages about the issue, if you like to record your games with a HD PVR , you will not be affected by this.

Again, THIS IS NOT PS3 HAVING ANY HARDWARE/FEATURE REMOVED. The only change takes place on the actual Blu-Ray disc and ONLY FOR MOVIES. Component cables will still work just fine, however if you play one of the newer discs that has the mandatory analog copy protection (after 2013), it will be downgraded to just above standard definition unless you play it out over HDMI. GAMES ARE NOT AFFECTED IN ANY WAY AT ALL. PS3's HARDWARE IS NO DIFFERENT EITHER. ALL PS3's will see this change take place, because again, the change takes place on the blu-ray movie and not the game console itself. It's an authoring issue, the bd disc author just flips a switch and it disables HD output over component and downscales it instead.

I hope this clears things up a bit.

guitarded771837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

@ Fox01 (2nd post)
There is a difference between removing and feature and no longer supporting a feature. Removing a feature is like what they did with Linux... no longer supporting a feature is like how the 1st gen PS3's had 4 USB ports and the slim models only have 2. From this article, we can see that Sony will no longer be supporting color stream component HD on their next PS3 SKU, which is apparently going to be the case for other Blu-Ray devices by law. Sony is doing nothing wrong here. Kotaku are just sensationalizing the story with a crap headline. The story is actually very interesting, but many can't read past a headline.

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MaxXAttaxX1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Not sure how reliable this source is.
Let's wait and see.

Hayabusa 1171837d ago

A comment you said earlier:

"How is that a downgrade? HDMI is still there and it's better than component."

It is downgrade because the PS3 has less functionality. It won't affact it's image rendering capabilities but it's one less feature the PS3 has therefore it's a downgrade. And like it or not, being able to use HD with a component cable is usefull.

MaxXAttaxX1837d ago

Also, like I've said before.

No one's PS3 will be downgraded. If you already have a PS3 then this doesn't affect you.
It only affects future PS3 models.
IF true.

Surfaced1837d ago

This is the truth:

http://www.engadget.com/201...

Sony has no choice but to kill Component support. All manufacturer's must do this soon.

But of course, Kotaku being Kotaku, they downplay the truth as a minor little "update" at the bottom, leaving the story up for a full-blown sensationalist frenzy in wake of Sony's other controversial headline-making decisions.

Dante1121837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Also, didn't Microsoft also stop including component cables when they revamped the Xbox line? As far as I know, the "slim" models don't come with them.

Edit: Lol at the "Sony evil" posts below even after the fact that Microsoft has also stop shipping component cables with Xbox360 (slims/revamps).

Edit2: And watch the edits lol....MOTY's the only guy still hyping the "Sony evil" theories now.

TBM1837d ago

@surfaced

even though you've given a link that clearly shows that all Blu Ray players will be required to remove component cable ports, and strictly use HDMI ports only there are a lot of simple people/haters in this article.

RIF=Reading is Fundamental

too many idiots/haters roaming this site.

Blaze9291837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

I don't see why they'd do this for gaming though. Not only does it affect people who like to record their gameplay, but now it directly affects the gaming industry as a whole who use component cables to capture gameplay video, screenshots, and do previews/reviews etc.

PS3 is HDCP enabled preventing people from using hdmi to record gameplay. So we might see less to damn near no video footages of PS3 games anymore.

So I'm more interested in the backlash from the gaming community.

Legion1837d ago

I really doubt that this will have too much of an impact on video coverage on PS3 games.

Those that are currently providing coverage will still be able to do so as no update will change the current systems in use.

Of course if a new system is purchased without a mode of recording being available then yes... new systems will not be used for such coverage.

But seriously... bypass systems to record video is usually up and available within a month of any device being created. I don't see the HD cable requirement being to much of a hinderance in video coverage.

fr0sty1837d ago

Read my post above. This affects gaming in no way, shape, or form.

bozebo1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Stupidest law ever and it wont make any tiny difference to piracy at all. If somebody wants to rip a Blu-Ray they stick it in their PC and click rip...

subtenko1837d ago

If you already have a ps3 dont worry, if you dont have a ps3 tell your parents to go ahead a buy you one since they are a weeks work of a paycheck! Good gosh you people... trolls..

HDMI is better anyway

Agree of Disagree if you Agree :)

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lazertroy1837d ago

Kotaku go eat a you know wut!

trainsinrdr1837d ago

I remember EA removed godfather dlc behind everyones backs but at then end of the day it is EA.

Army_of_Darkness1837d ago

EA removing DLC behind everyones back. oh man, that really hurts... (-_-)...
Not that I cared or would even purchase the DLC in the first place.

blumatt1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

I wish all these companies would remove paid dlc. Put the content on the disc before the game releases OR, if you they must release it as dlc, make it FREE. Hell, if a gamer were to have bought Black Ops at launch and then bought every subsequent dlc map pack, they would have spent at this point around $100 or more. That's ridiculous!! DLC should either be FREE, on the disc, or non-existent. DLC is the biggest cash-in of this generation. And, sadly, it's working. The last dlc I bought was the map pack for CoD4 and it only cost me $10. The new map packs are $15, which is overpriced. I'm done supporting dlc. I commend some devs. this gen who have given us free dlc after the release. That's more like it. Kind of like a "Thank you, customer. We appreciate your support." instead of Activision's thought process where they say,"Keep on sucking at the DLC teet!" lol All I can say is that's some expensive a$$ milk, Activision!! haha

About this whole removal of features BS, I don't think it's a big deal if they remove component support from the new models. Anyone that's going to purchase a new PS3 within the next year most likely has an HDMI-equipped HDTV anyway. HDMI cables can be had for around $2-3 on Amazon. There's frugal and there's just plain cheap. Go spend $3 and get it over with.

Arthas1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Wouldnt be the first time but seriously... who uses this option? Anyone?

Expect a hack from Anon over the loss of the High def component cable option lol

xX-StolenSoul-Xx1837d ago

Those things are bad quality anyways lol.

starcb261837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

I still use components since I ruined my HDMI slot.
@ Arthas On the TV.

Arthas1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Before you know it, Kotaku will be writing up a slander article about how Sony is taking out the lightbulb on the power / eject button.
Blasphemy!

yess1837d ago

There newer was a lightbulb, it's a smurf with a box of matches;-)