Microsoft's Xbox chief has said the company was not surprised by last month's PS3 price cuts and believes Sony "had to respond" to the console's high entry point.
Of course he thinks that... What a SMACK & POON DART all the same. When, in reality, it's not a better value at all. I can get a ps3 for 400 bucks that allows me to play blu-rays, upscale dvds, run Linux and multiple emulators, browse the internet, online game for free... import/export pics and music..., upgrade my hdd to the size and brand of hdd I want, edit video and stream hd movies to the hdd using Tversity and, ontop of all of that, play ps1 and ps3 games...
I can get an xbox 360 that allows me to play xbox 360 games and a handful of xbox games. pay for my online gaming, even tho I already pay for broadband... force me into using their storage devices. Don't allow us to use Keyboards and mice. Yeah, sounds like a real good value, Microsoft.
It is the better value, and yes sony responded out of desperation and came out with what is it now in less than a yr. 5 different SKU's? It's all about gaming, please stop w.the I can watch a BR movie whenever I want to, great I hope you and your mom watch 20 BR movies a week, sounds sweet, however the rest of us know that were Gamers. We play Video games and the Xbox 360 no matter how you spin it, comes out to be NUMBER 1.
Spin away wussy boy, spin away.
Wow, so aggressive, calm down a bit. He was just stating his opinion like the MS guy was. The quote on it being the better offer is pretty subjective. We all define it differently.
Some people, like me, bought a PS3 because we believed it gave us the best features, highest reliability, and longest life cycle. And obviously, there are others who bought a 360 for their own reasons.
If the guy from MS thinks 360 is a better value thats perfectly fine, but it does annoy me when he forgets to mention some of the things its competitors does better.
I Got the 60gig PS3 1 week after launch for $600. Everyone knows whats included in it. If I bought a 360 that is comparable with the PS3 that I have it will cost the following:
Xbox 360 - HD DVD Bundle
SKU: 999977000050000 $579.97
Xbox Live Accessory Bundle Includes:
Wireless network adapter,
Xbox Live 12-month Gold renewal card and
1,600 Xbox Live Marketplace Points $169.97
Plus $60 per year for Live renewal
No Online surfing
No memory card readers
Grand Total of 749.94 and $60 a year for online.
All prices are from Bestbuy.com
And then there is a possibility that it will turn into a brick because of the dreaded RRoD.
You tell me what the better deal is?
I Thought So
a better deal.
in what way?
i`d rather pay the extra $$$ for reliability.
i spent about $1500-$2000 on my 360 in a year(and it broke) i got rid of it.
i`ve spent about the same on my ps3 and it WORKS LIKE A CHARM.
a better deal is your console surviving longer than a year.
mine xbox is currently under repairs by a guy, that flashed my xbox360 dvd drive and he will fix it so the RROD problem won't appear again, i'm not risking a MS xbox change, cause they would only give me another xbox, that would broke in about a year...
a better deal is not waiting and really playing.
"i spent about $1500-$2000 on my 360 in a year(and it broke) i got rid of it."
Why get rid of it when fixes are free? oh yeah.. your liar.
You're a douche-bag.
no i`m not lying My GT was SUNNIHALO
because fixes weren`t free, when it broke.
it had a 3 month warranty.
so the first time it broke i had to pay 170 bucks to get it fixed.
the 2nd time I thru the thing you love in the TRASH.
and just played SOTC and OKAMI.
which by the way are more next gen than anything 360 released in its first year.
Lost Planet- Sh!t
Just Cause- Sh!t
Dead Rising- Great(thats it)
GeOW- WAY overrated.
don`t think i`m lying because you don`t believe how much of a piece of Sh!t the 360 is.
360 just doesn`t work.
my friends have also gone thru multiples.
don`t worry you little puke, your 360 WILL break just because of your KARMA(trying to call me out)
when that day happen remember the NAME.
That Microsoft was circulating broken consoles back to people who sent in faulty units, mainly because they can only make so many new consoles every month. If production capacity is 500,000 units a month and 2 million units are sent back for replacement/repairs, then that puts a LOT of strain on production. RROD has been linked to the GPU – CPU connection becoming broken, but Microsoft representatives have stated that that is only one of multiple reasons for the RROD problem.
This doesn’t necessarily mean that AllAroundGamer is telling the truth or lying, but it’s important to acknowledge this notable fact. I mean, with a 30% failure rate, it's hard NOT to run into people who have problems with their 360s.
ANEGO MONTOYA ???
that was a very nice drama....
Your Bias of games is shut down by Metacritic by the NO AAA games PS3 really has.
I'd put more dirt on the poor quality PS3 games really are. but naaaah
and what the heck? no rumble yet???
LOL: weak minded? I'm actually respecting your input of 360 games by not putting mine about PS3 games. But there has to be a standard or something on paper in which no bias are cluttered. Sorry again... but the only narrow minded person here is you. That's what reviews are for. That's what IGN, Gamespot, PSM are for. To keep Narrow Minded Fanboy Bias' out and real genuine reviews and thoughts in. Agreeable or not, aslong as no fanboy comments are in.
look how brainwashed you are.
you RELY on METACRITIC to tell YOU what YOU like.
your VERY WEAK MINDED.
What is really brain washed..
is believing in Cell, Blu Ray, Freeonline, Rumble being last Gen, 120 fps, Better Multiplatform games, Exlcusives not being lost.
And the other guy is lieing, you didn't have a 3 month waranty not did you pay 170, and even if you had which you havent all people who paid from day 1 recieved all there money back from MS.
Stop the lies and move on.
the reasons for RROD are mostly purely overheating of the graphic card, MS used a bad quality paste on the GPU chip and it becomes hard after a while and won't conduct the heat to the passive cooler.
my 360 broke and thats what MS told me($170)
people like you make the 360 a laughable piece of trash.
i`m not ever on this SITE going to waste my time lying about my expierences.
360s break and MS fu(ked over alot of people at the beginning, yes they seem to have gotten better at dealing w/ these problems. But it doesn`t change whats happened to me.
the funny thing is DEAD RISING the only game i love, was the game that finished of my 360(playing it so much)
i don`t lie.
and its quite PATHETIC you think i would do that.
The 360 really have a better value, it does RRoD on you !!! and they are free :D
Gah... really i don't like all that "uncle Bill Gates" nonsense and buying every soul on the planet with his $_$, to satisfy his greed and monopoly hungy, he don't mind to say nonsense too :/
of course he had to say it. he works for microsoft. of course sony had to respond with a lower price point. they did their homework and realized a mistake. and of course MS is going to do something in response to the sony price drop as well. it's called a competitive marketplace. but now we're going to get 100 posts about how much more value the 360/ps3 has over the ps3/360. fantastic.
says we are winning the war
why does he say that you may ask
because he has 2
kinda like this guy
he does work for MS... what did you expect?
I laugh at your craziness.
Just look at the library 360 has.
no matter how much the PS3 cuts its price and all these promises.
It all comes down to games.
ya ya, all 360 games are PC games!!! what library are u talking about??? PS3 crushes 360 hands down in exclusives.
But is PC a console?
How long did it take for Gears to appear to PC?
How Long is it till Halo 3 is out for PC?
How long is it till Mass Effect to be for PC?
I'm not gonna give my personal views of AAA games and neither should you because of major BIASes..
SO lets look at Metacritic. How many games of the Microsoft Library do you see having 90+???...Now how many PS3 games do you see having 90??? check it out yourself.. Again, keep you opinions to yourself and look at the stats.
"PS3 crushes 360 hands down in exclusives. "... sure again.. your bias is really being shutdown by simple facts.
Your PS3 still has to beat gears... in awards and scores.
right now....for games yes, the 360 is the better value. slowly the ps3 is catching up. but in my mind, i got myself a $400 dollar blu-ray player, with a promise of games coming my way. and blu-ray winning the format wars. im hoping my decision works out for the best for me. the 360...scared me with all its RRoD problems. thats one reason i opted for the ps3. MS scared me...
360's got the sickest games. I dont care how much it costs as long as its leading with exclusive titles. 360's got alot this christmas that have already scored above 9's. I think mass effect will show why 360 is the best console on the market. Ill get a ps3 and wii next year when they got something worth playing. Ps3's got haze, ut3, and uncharted, but they got nothing on Mass Effect. That games gonna be addicting as hell. 1ups already confirmed that. cod4, halo, assassins creed will be hard to finish once that game comes out. Ive seen UT3 it looks average. haze i hear has problems and it looks average, and uncharted will be awesome but ill wait. so yea 360's the best for now. BTW Too Human will be game of the year next year. Looks like Diablo times 10. Customizable characters is insaine, and the loot gathering coop will make this game another 10/10
I am sure his kids play PS3.
lmao! good one :D
it has a great online service that's free of charge, and its software lineup for 2007~2008 is killer. The only advantage Microsoft has right now is their hardware warranty.
That is open to debate. It isn't the better value in my eyes though it may be in other people's eyes. I myself am waiting for the 360 to drop down to at least $300 (premium) before I'll even consider buying it.
Premium is about £40 cheaper than the PS3 40GB model. It has half the storage, no WiFi - if you want to compare the technical specs in terms of that offering, the Xbox 360 would cost £120 more if you wanted the bigger HDD and the Wifi accessory. It's not better value at all.
He's not stupid. He was talking about "value" in terms of "content" which he spoke in depth about. You know, Microsoft have a great lineup this year. Absolutely no doubting about that but I think they're placing too much emphasis and weight on "the holidays".
If I was a gamer and I was looking at the 360, I'd be very happy with what it has to offer currently but I want a console for the next few years not next few months. What will it have in 08? I think its 08 titles are less appealing than that of Sony's IMHO and so if we're talking about value here, I'd rather invest my money into something I'll enjoy for the longest amount of time.
the arcade pack is a joke.
The Premium or Elite is the best value.
the 40gig value was a buy for me, but eversince I found out it was a retarded model taking out the BC. hell no. God of War is still the best game sony has.
Edit: The 80gig model should be having another price cut when MGS4 comes out.
I agree with you. Just save up for a few more weeks and get the 60GB/80GB version. You won't be disappointed with that.
i got my 60gb ps3 used from gamestop for $400 bucks. when i got home, all the cables were still in their packaging? i think someone gave me a new ps3 for the used price minus my trade in. good deal imo :D
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I hate these articles.
That was just poetry :D
i work for chevy....god i hate them....lol
all giving their little piece, they're acting like some of the lesser charactors on this site.
are M$ trying to lose what credibility they have?
they dont REALLY GIVE YOU CHOICE. they just make things look pretty.
for example, the arcade sku, they give you arcade games but your still gonna need a harddrive. at 400 bucks, i wouldnt say anything is forced on a player. why wouldnt we want all these features when if we brought a 360 (i did) would have to buy everything else for the full expierence. im glad bluray and a harddrive is standerd because developers KNOW that everyone has one. IM GLAD BLURAY IS BUILT IN THE PS3, (WERE GETTING LA NOIRE WHICH NEEDS IT, WERE GETTING GAMES THAT DONT HAVE TO BE COMPRESSED) microsoft sugarcodes things,but people just realize it.
about Blu Ray, Wi-Fi all you want, blah blah blah even the RROD can't stop the 360. Right now it's outselling PS3 5 to 1 in the US and about even the rest of the world. Say all you want but America is the biggest market for games in the world. And the XBOX got that covered. Can't wait till NPD numbers come out in Jan. Disagree all you want with facts. I bought over 25 games already for the 360, why??? Because it's the BEST.
The only fact i see on your post is that you are a good Bill Gates fan :D
The only reason u have 25 games is because u dont mind buying crap games ps3 owners such as myself wont buy any old junk handed to us we pick and choose the best games there are.Thats why all the 360 owners have alot of games cos theyll buy anything doesnt matter how bad it is,it must be true else why would halo sell and why would kameo sell cos ur happy with what u can get.
But from a hardware point of view, you do get more from a PS3 compared to what you`re paying, and it`s more reliable too ;)
I agree with Meus Renaissance, from a content perspective this year 360 has the edge, even though that is more debateable i think.
Still, 2008 seems to be Sony`s year, from what`s known about it so far, but one can never predict what suprises Microsoft has cooking up either so we`ll see. I`m leaning on buying a PS3 this year over a 360, because of the games coming out for it next year, some of the games like Uncharted, Ratchet, UT3, and maybe Haze this year
Thanks man :)
days are over get use to it. In other news Spider-man 3 Blu Ray can't beat out Transformers on HD DVD as the #1 selling HD movie. Sony claims that the release of GH caused this. Blu Ray dead buy next year don't worry BD will be used for games still thank you guys for funding the BD project.
P.S. Please post facts not opinions
STFU PLEASE!!! OMG ARE BEING PAID BY MS OR SOMETHING?
I am confused here.
You said in the same post
"PS days are over"
"please post facts and not opinion" ? ? ?
Can you see my confusion or are you just a typical fanboy that feels your opinion = facts and opinions not shared but you merely = opinions you don't want to hear?
Wow these fanboy wars over consoles are sad.
I actually think I just lost IQ points reading and responding to this post.
Or you are the son of bill gates.
what else would he say
Xbox 360 has more consoles sold world wide then ps3.
Xbox 360 has more games released then ps3.
Xbox 360 has more AAAA,AAA,AA,A games then ps3.
Xbox 360 has more games Sold each month then ps3.
Xbox 360 has more game attach ratios then ps3. (which only has movie sales)
LOL yep 360 is the proven better system, and better deal.
but but but but but but but but but but THE CELL...
but but but but but but but but but but Blu-RAY
but but but but but but but but but but HD-DVD is losing
but but but but but but but but but but Online is free!!!!
but but but but but but but but but but It's cheaper now!!
it's cheaper because it's in 3rd place and going to be staying there.
Related to the fact that Xbox 360 has been out for two years, while PS3 has only been out for one. Your last claim is actually false; PS3 has a higher software attachment ratio.
Xbox 360 got the games. If you ever buy a 360, don't forget to get gears of was (what' an awesome game.).
I have a 360 and the games aren't any better than PS3 games... and next year PS3 BY FAR will have the better games. The 360 is garbage. Anything you buy that is 40% defective and you have to return over and over is TRASH. No wifi. No bluray... no motion controls. NO internet... no nothing but SCI FI SHOOTERS. The xbox 360 has become a joke and EVERYONE IS TALKING TRASH ABOUT IT NOW. even people than own Halo 3 constantly talk trash about it. 360 will lose... sit back and watch it happen. Playstation will ALWAYS be the best console on the market.
hurts. Damn Sony fangirls you guys on the rag????
No but your mum is, my bed is a f*cking mess!!!
days are over get use to it....10 million wiht no competiton and 3 mill with competition.....what does that tell you...
8.5 million with competition, but your figure for 2007 is almost spot on. PS3's outsold the 360 so far this year, and by a pretty big number. I wonder what 2008 is going to look like.
will be your excuses after the holidays and the sales number comes out. Name calling wow you guys are really kids thats why no PS3 games get sold not enough money saved up to buy games.
lmao this is hilarious the xbox is not a greater value not even close the xbox is cheaper cause they make u buy all theire products to add on to it like hd dvd drive live account wifi etc un like the ps3 that comes with all that u can add ANY laptop hd u want and wat do u kno free online gaming so yea ps3 is def the better value
Come on microsoft...you are not even close...at this price point Sony is going to make a killing and by Christmas 2008...they will totally dominate...we all know Sony will hit the $299 price by then....
Bluray is still 2 to 1 in the states against HD-DVD...HD-DVD does not have disney.....and they never will....The PS3 will eclipse The Xbox 360 when MGS4 and HOME comes out...by the time Final Fantasy 13 comes out it is all over....
Uncharted Drake will be a better game than Mass Effect........
Oh.. god what happened now...
The PS3 is still far too expensive over here in the UK which is annoying. I want to get one but damn it Sony, make the PS3 60GB console £300 and stop over charging us for everything like most companies do over here. :(
Why wouldn't he support his own product. Anyways better value not, since it certainly is not a better quality product!!!!
He works for MS,so what else was he going to say?
STFU. 40GB is £299
That's good. There's no need to give you a 60Gb for that much since it comes with two f***ing games.
40GB is a great price, affordable. If you want better, you PAY better. You don't bi**h and whine and expect people to cater solely to your limited budget.
No wait thats just the PS3 fans spinning their last place console.
The PS3 is expensive and in 3rd and it looks to stay that way this gen so change your diapers and get used to it.