NowGamer: Uncharted 3 won't get anything like the amount of online players as Modern Warfare 3 admits Naughty Dog's Robert Cogburn.
sad but true, even though U3 mp is probably better
"You can play multiple play styles, and we have these massive set pieces that you can’t get anywhere else. No other multiplayer title lets you jump from truck to truck while attacking a flying airplane." The stuff they are doing in this game is really cool and prolly keep me playing longer than like say call of duty which I love for the first 3 or 4 months and then I just get bored and stop playing. I am personally more interested in coop but loving this beta in all game types.
"No other multiplayer title lets you jump from truck to truck while attacking a flying airplane." Maybe not, but Halo 3 lets me jump from Elephant to Elephant while attacking a flying Banshee ;)
Unfortunately NanoSoldier you're a fanboy 9 years old COD Fanboy!
Yea its fun and all but after the 20th time, you just want to get the actual map and not deal with the moving trucks. I think the MP is fun but unless they got like 14 maps, i hate dynamic type MP maps after a while. They get tedious. I still will never buy MW3 though LOL. BF3...maybe for PC? I think ill pass this one, I overplayed BC2 .
I played the U3 beta but it's really bad you have to empty the whole clip to kill one guy even when he is few feet away.
I'm actually slightly disappointed in U3 multiplayer! The menu interface is a bit "blah" and boring and not very intuitive to use. Then there is the thing of too many options for things, like needing medals or something for special power up in game, then there is another special power up you buy each game one time only? Then there is customisation that you have to get money to pay for the add-ons and customisation, then there is general XP you get to level up. It just feels a little OTT and un-organised, it's 1 of the problems I have with COD, you can't just jump in and have some quick fun because all your weapons etc are sh*t because you need to spend time upgrading and customising your load outs etc. They also seem to have ruined all of the weapons from the U2 lol, the AK-47 is useless, all the guns feel the same - with some very under-powered with some very over-powered! Gameplay is good though and maps load REALLY fast! I like the new 3 team DM too, prob what I like best about the new MP! It has been stable for me too. It IS only a beta though so I'm not judging yet and I'm still buying it day 1 for the SP campaign anyway. I bought U2 for the SP campaign and the multiplayer was a bonus, which turned out to be really addicting and great! I just preferred the simplicity of U2, but I suppose I can still go and play U2 online too, it's not like they have taken the servers down or something lol, so I actually think it's good they didn't pull a COD and just give U2 online a 1.5 patch lol.
Obviously, Naughty Dog are real developers and they will not lie and be biased. Does this mean MW3 is a the better game tho? NOPE! two different games. They have guns in common.. on another note, Uncharted3 Beta had 1+million players the 1st or second day (I think the sony blog said 2nd day). and the numbers have been increasing, so Uncharted3 will still be a MEGA success in popularity and will get attention from people. (unless some people live under a rock, ie. those guys in that geico commercial)
Yeah it was 1 million unique users logged in to play. Pretty good for a beta. The game should see a lot of people playing compared to other games that are not named battlefield or call of duty. Just as a comparisons sake, blackops hit over 14 million unique users last months (includes people who make new accounts) http://blog.us.playstation....
That guy under the rock (who speaks) is Chum Lee from Pawn Stars. Funny, he calls out to Rick, too.
Don't care which is better. I'm buying Uncharted for the singleplayer (and possibly co-op). I probably won't play either's multiplayer as I will probably move on to Assassin's Creed: Revelations or something. Too many games to play to care about MP.
You and me both. It's one of the finest, single player campaigns going. Although it's nice that multiplayer is there - personally I'm just not interested. I didn't play it on Uncharted 2 (just replayed the campaign 3 times), I'm not playing the beta now and I probably won't take U3 online when it hits later this year.
@ darkride. Yes the SP is superb but sink enough time into the MP and you'll never look back, its like crack, once you get it, it gets VERY addictive.
For me the true fun was co-op in uncharted ..it was somewhat lacking in the first attempt ( only 3 maps ) hopefully , ND will correct this mistake and bring longuer and more diverse maps
not interested in uncharted multiplayer at all but if i had to choose between uncharted 3 single player and mw3 i'd go for uncharted everytime. i'd even prefer they ditch multiplayer totally and add another 5 hours or so of single player.
I love Uncharted 3 Multiplayer, something different :)
"something different errr... rip-off Gears cover *cough* ...
Ohh yeah because Gears invented cover... 0_0
gears only made the 3rd person genre a "bigger deal" this generation, they never invented the whole "cover system" mechanic...
Is there anyone else who wants a new down-bubble option added "100% wrong information" or "spreading lies"?
Killswitch invented that kind of cover system and let me know when you can jump and climb in gears mp
@ infamousXX87XX "let me know when you can jump and climb in gears mp" This a is pretty stupid comment. I can come back and say, let me know when you can use execution moves and chainsaws in Uncharted's mp. See how pretty stupid of an argument that is. Both games offer what is best suited for that type of game. And since when is "jump" and "climb" big features to brag about? Seriously "jump" and "climb"? LOL give me a break. That comment make you look like you are desperate and backed into a corner and didn't know what to say.
"Killswitch invented that kind of cover system " winback says hi
Ok moty so cover is great and being able to climb is meh, got it. Being able to climb brings a more varied appoach to the gameplay. Gears is on a 2d plane and it works well for it. Uncharted is on a 3d plane and that works well for it too. In terms of a cover system gears wasnt the first but it was the first this gen that i can remember so some will wrongly label it as the inventor. Gamers who are old enough or just less ignorant know this. Both games have their individual feels and thats what counts. They can live in unison
@ infamousXX87XX Winback had it before Killzone and Splinter Cell did it prior and better then Killzone too. People talk of Winback and Killzone... and I never cared for eithers cover system in the game. Killzone had it's primary game focus as being the cover system and both Epic and Naughty dog give inspiration kudos for the game design mechanic. Fanboys on both sides will keep spouting off who was ripping off who. I still find the cover system in Rainbow 6 to be the better cover systems for me. Going from a 1st person to a 3rd person view to see your character as they take cover was a step above all this 3rd person shooting crap we see these days. Give me FPS games and the 3rd person games can stand in line waiting for me to get to them after I play a more enjoyable game experience for me.
@ Why o why I don't get your point. Both Gears and Uncharted have cover. So why are you bringing in cover? I never said Gears was the first to bring in cover. I stated that comparing 1 games features that the other game doesn't have is a pointless argument because the other game may have features that the the other doesn't have. like the example I gave, sure Uncharted you can jump and climb, but Gears allows you to use execution moves and chainsaws. Now you tell me, which of the 2 games sounds more exciting to do while playing. Chainsawing a guy in half or ripping off his arm and beating him to death with it....or climbing a wall and jumping....I think the answer is pretty obvious. At the end of your comment, you also basically just agreed with my comment. I really have no idea what point you were trying to make. Please try and keep up. I know that sometimes these conversations can go to quickly for some of you.
GUYS! This guy speaks the truth! (/s) FORGET the cutscenes, medal kickbacks, power plays, events going on realtime and level changes as you play, not to mention cool customization and emblems shown throughout the level... they STOLE the cover system! It isn't different at all!!! /s
@ moty Why even say something stupid? Executions and chainsaws are NOT capable of enhancing environments, or making a game play more vertical. The fact is gears games are kinda linear, actually if it got anymore linear, it would be on rails. When executions and chainsaws can enhance the environment, then your argument would be relevant, but as it stands, not so much....
Keep up yeah.....oh a bit of unhumorous humour. You speak like what you say is facts. Would i rather do one of 3 pre canned 'chainsaw' finishers or aim a well timed jump to land behind somebody then do one of the 3 pre canned neck snapping finishers then climb to a ledge and pull the dude who was letting shots off over the edge...ITS OBVIOUS INIT. Anybody can project opinion as facts. so thats a fail. My whole point was that you were downplaying playing on a 3d plane which obviously gives you more options and gameplay mechanics. Not downplaying anything but finishers are just finshers and are more for affect and style over a game changing mechanic. Still good.
Just for anyone looking, Perfect Dark Zero was the game where Gears stole their cover system......Works two ways huh?
Do I even play Gears? No. Do I care about this debate over where this concepted cover system was based on in development? No. It works. Its pretty good, but not perfect. I have noticed death in beta even while in cover. Magic bullets or something.
Well nd dont worrie you wont be killed by me I love the beta and u3 will be my number one game this year online, call od duty is dead deep down and plus u should not worry really. Call of duty is loved mostly by people who are just idiots who cant get kills on other games and likes to camp big time.
First of all ppl can camp in any game, whether its UC3, BF3, of MW3. Thats about the only thing that UC3 and MW3 have in common. These games are nothing alike and that extends to their multiplayer components. To say "only idiots that cant get kills play CoD" is just a really generic, unintelligent thing to say.
Yeah, he went too far and looks a little OTT as a result. Thing is, COD does appeal to eople because they CAN pick the game up and after a few hours, even having never played FPS before be holding their own or even doing well in a few matches[-it's pick up and play, as Halo started really, taken to a higher level and as suc it's, again like Halo, easy tobe OK at but vdery hard to excel purely because anyone with a modicum of skill can have a game where they can mess things up even for pros. It's a falsel;y made and contrived playing field that does ske things to give new players and the less skilled the chance to feel they're not that bad, that they can mix with the big boys-really, as i'm shit at shooters it SHOULD be my dream game but after bit I feel patronised by it's hand holding and the fact it feels the exact same as it did last year-so I wonder why I've been cajoled into buying it again-it's fun but it's reached a point where I feel it thinks a lot of us are stupid and is catering to that rather than the gamer in al of us. Conversely, my favourite FPS is TF2 and my favourite console MP title would be Warhawk and neither game can be saisd to be pick up and p[lay imn any way and as a self confessed FPS/shooter liability I had to REALLY work at these games just to be Ok from time to time bt the way UI enjoy that streep and unforgiving learning curve over a longer time than I can keepplaying COD sows that the pick up and play model doesn't work long term(I have NEVER stayed interested in ANY COD game to buy ONE map pack for example while I've bought lots of Halo packs, all the Warhawk expansions and updated everything i could going back to Counter Strike days on PC. This COD being the game of the idiot ignores the way sme GREAT players like to tewst themselves in a different way and COD offers that by being a bit of a leveller for them-in games based more centrally on gaming skill and no assisted aim they know luck is taken out of it a lot more and maybe they get bored of the constant equality of that experience and like the risk of being upset by a relative noob kin COD-as a crap player IDK and can only guess! Pint is any shooter can be for any gamer but Warhawk or, in this case, Uncharted won't attract the big, pick up and play crowd's simply because they're a bit harder to play right off the bat and don't hold newcomers hands as much either.
well liked the beta ,not bad at all but ps3 gamers will play more call of duty for sure and not support uncharted mp again
I haven't enjoyed the beta as much as I thought I would, but I'm looking forward to having a go on the finished thing...
Read it,they say because UC3 is only on 1 platform....runs n hides from the 360fanboy mods who mark posts as trolling if you dont support 360. ....Waits for anti-ps3 comments to get mass agree`s n 360 fanboys being in another ps3 article n not getting removed. I also find it funny how this will get approved(along with all the other psn got hacked articles n sony is 3rd place/sales are bad articles) yet any article against the 360 gets FAILED.
What in the hell are you talking about?
you will be marked as trolling by anyone who reads your comment not the mods. Clearly you are a troll as you are the only one here who cant shut up about 360. I will be getting this game specifically for the multiplayer, I love it. Im even going to go eat at crappy subway in october so I can get early access to the multiplayer. Edit- The fact is that the COD multiplayer numbers on PS3 alone will still decimate the Uncharted numbers. But who cares, I know that I will be enjoying the uncharted 3 multiplaer for hours and will not be buying COD. The only time Ill play COD is at my friends house since I know they will be buying the new COD every year.
BS and you know it clearly being a 2bubble troll. How does someone with more agrees than disagrees get marked for trolling but the real trolls with 20-30 disagrees, not get marked for trolling n infact gain bubbles and dont even get me started on anti-ps3 articles , they will have 13 reports n 1 or 2 approvels yet magically it gets approved. Just remember this for when im perma banned n the likes of LONER n WARPRINCESS are still around.
bring your friend some jersey mike's subs and throw out that subway crap.
entire quote: "In terms of numbers of players, I have no doubt that Modern Warfare 3 is going to kill us. It is a ridiculously powerful franchise, you know, their sales are through the roof, they’re multiplatform, and to be honest, the industry needs games like that," he added.
"Tommy, did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?" "So?" Wow buddy. I had to read that twice to fully understand it, lol. There are clearly alot of fanboys here for both sides but I definately think this site is PS3 oriented.
Think you got it backwards.
. Black ops last I heard had sold 10+ million or about 3-4 million more than Uncharted 1 and 2 COMBINED. Using the multi-platform excuse might work in terms of total sales but EVERY COD game will out sell Uncharted and as I have just pointed out, just one installment has out sold all Uncharted games on it`s own console...the PS3. Does that make Uncharted a bad game or unplayable...NO...but lets not start making excuses either. CoD is giving that fanbase what it wants and that is why it sells the way it does. People don`t buy games because they hate them...0_o It seems the more popular a game is, the more the haters whine. Sony should never launch Uncharted in the same launch window as Battlefield and MW3. If the game doesn't sell well they have no one to blame but them selves. Add to that, the beta has been plague by many problems...maybe ND is starting to feel the pressure like Dice.
The multiplatform mention didn't really sound like an excuse - just another reason why COD's reach is longer. ND in no why tried to downplay COD or BF's successes. Stop making up your own subtext.
U2 & K3 together have less players online than B-ops, and thats just on the PS3. That's nobody's fault but the PS3 owners who just happen to prefer COD online. Not on this site, but in the real world....
When was he using it as an excuse? I'm pretty sure he made it obvious that he respect both titles. Hence, him referencing how his team logged 100s of hours in BF and Cod and him saying the market needs that type of game. Stop being stupid. @iistuii Less players doesn't=nobody playing. If you can find a games who cares how many people are playing?
Did I say nobody playing it ?, I said more people are playing COD, as stated by ND themselves.
Fully agree...I mean look at how MS handled Halo? They kept that game a few months clear of MW and it has served them well. Halo sold big time and the 360 version of MW also sold big time... Sony should shift Uncharted in the future out of that Nov. window and into a late Sept. / mid Oct. release.
Im not worried about how many people play or buy CoD, I know U3, and ACR are the games im looking forward to the most in november. So don't worried ND i'll be playing ur multiplayer when I have the time. Speaking of which I think imma jump on later today to try out the new stuff.
If they knew that they wouldn't get COD's numbers why did they make Uncharted so COD like, adding loadouts, Upgradable Boosters(Upgradable Perks), Kickbacks (Killstreaks), Weapons mods to make your weapons powerful......basicaly making people win in Uncharted not by Skill but how much better stuff they've unlocked for their weapon/kickback slot or booster slot.
If you are skillful, you will unlock those upgrades quickly. There is also a hardcore mode if you don't want some of those things.
"If you are skillful, you will unlock those upgrades quickly." Let's say U3 is out and your starting U3 online for the first time, your against a level 45 while your level 1. Instead of him beating you because of skill he beats you because he has a better kickback or a better weapon mod making his weapon better then yours......that would be unfair, making it harder to level up since more higher levels aren't better then you, but because they have better stuff to kill you with. I really don't think your going to level up with it being like that, skillfull or not.
The upgrades will not allow a poor player to beat a better one. That's a bad excuse for not doing well. What upgrade makes a person so powerful? Even if there were no upgrades, a player at rank 40 will beat a newcomer. It is what all newcomers face. If you want to buy a multiplayer game, buy it soon! Then you will not be at a disadvantage to those with more playtime.
What does that have to do with anything? UC2 had boosters and weapon mods too.Plus they are not talking about simularities they are talkijng about COD being on multiple systems and getting high numbers of players.Please if you have nothing but fanboy BS to say while ND is trying to say something sensible just don't say anything at all. Only crappy games whine and cry about perks and mods.Real games overcome any disadvantage or use any advantage they have to come victorious in the end. I started UC2 late when everyone was ahead with perks to climb faster, move faster and have more bullets in each clip. And I STILL worked my way up and used my SKILL to out manuver them.
I think he's trying to say that if your new to the game then your going up against high leveled players who will wipe the floor with you, but not because of skill but because they've unlocked better weapons mods, upgraded there boosters and have better kickbacks. U2 didn't have weapon mods, all they had was boosters and most of them were pretty crap. The mian one which was unfair was SA, so you had more people in U2 beating other players based more of skill then help from boosters. Oh by the way why are you calling his opinion as him being a "fanboy". Do you even know what it means because it seems you don't. It's not like he's saying "Uncharted 3 SUCKS" or "Uncharted is crap...COD ON 360 4 EVER" etc is he. Don't come off such a dick because his opinion is differen't to yours.
That's what I'm thinking if they knew that they wouldn't be able to match Call of Duty, since it's a multiplatform game, then why did they make Uncharted 3's online more like any other online game instead of making it more Uncharted like. I'm just going to stick to hardcore mode since it seems that's where ND are pushing all the U2 veterans. "If you don't like changes, go play on Hardcore mode"...fair enough but I feel like the Hardcore mode will just be forgotten about while they focus on the new playlists. There better be hardcore plunder, objective and elimination modes, especially elimination mode since with Kickbacks/better boosters and people with the best weapon mods the matches will be over pretty quickly, kind of like how U2's was over quick since people went for the power weapons all the time.
Im pretty good at uncharted multiplayer and I wouldnt care if they completly removed those things from the game. However that would just make it harder for noobs to kill someone like me. All the kickbacks and boosters I use are ones that were unlocked early. The biggest factor towards getting kills is still SKILL in this game. I can use my early unlocks and destroy anyone with much later ones still. You cant press right on the d pad and have an AI helicopter come and get 20 kills for you. edit MR SPACE- If you are a level 1 fighting a 45 then Im pretty sure skill will have something to do with you loosing and not just the boosters/kickbacks. You think someone gets all the way to level 45 without learning atleast something along the way? If you are a skillful 1, then you can kill him and take his weapon with the better mods. And I dont think that boosters/better mods are the reason that high levels beat lower levels. Its called skill and experience. I still use early unlocks at level 30, and I have always been able to beat higher levels easily, their boosters/kickbacks cant usually help them beat someone who is more skillful.
I don't think you have played the beta very much. It is extremely balanced for the stage it is in. And no kickback is uber powerful.
....Well I think I have I'm level 25 now so I think I've played enough and I played the crap out of Uncharted 2....so please don't try and say that I havent played it when I have...you don't know me. I can say that I bet you havent played on U2 online that much because it's obvious there is flaws in U3's online and Uncharted 2's onlien (before the 1.5 patch) was perfect in balance. Kickbacks aren't as powerufll but you can earn them really quick because medals are easiley earnt. I have had 3-4 RPG's a match. People should only be allowed one kickback per match/round because it will make them think about when and where to use it. @HeavenlySnipes: No I don't...I;ve seen people just stay behind there buddy, go for treasure chests so they can earn the RPG kickback quicker...even if they earn a few kills it will go towards them leveling up. It wasn't like that in U2 so yeah you've negated your comment (like most of your comments on this site).
you believe that UC3 doesn't take skill completely negated your comment. There is a clear difference between good and bad players. You can't camp your way to a good match in UC3. EDIT: If you don't want to lose because lvl 42 people are using endurance and back in the saddle (lol, none of the boosters are OP if you think about it) or the RPG (EVERYONE uses that kickback. Its also given to you first) play hardcore. No kickbacks, no boosters, no powerplays, higher health, (I think no weapon mods)
B/c perks are almost standard now, i heard someone on mic say where the fucking perks at. Cod just made perks standard now and thats why its in like assassin creed brother hood and uncharted.
Another reason why i dislike COD because what they do has become standard?!? Thats os the BS that ruins games that dont follow their "standards" i dont like that U3 has all this cod stuff that much its fun for awhile but i just wished it was like U2. But ill just stick to hardcore if have money to buy this game in november
IT ADDS FLAIR AND REPLAYABLILTY. Killsteaks aren't the same as kickbacks. You don't need to be on 1 life to get a kickback. Similiar, but different. All of these grabs people's attention and keeps them sucked in. If it didn't have the mods and perks, it'd just be a shoot shoot shoot. Not, work with your loadout and how you think you should play with it. CUSTOMIZATION!
I hope a lot of people who hate COD realize what this guy said and how correct he is. "In terms of numbers of players, I have no doubt that Modern Warfare 3 is going to kill us. It is a ridiculously powerful franchise, you know, their sales are through the roof, they’re multiplatform, and to be honest, the industry needs games like that," he added. Look at the end of that statement. "The industry needs games like that" (referring to COD). Games like COD bring new gamers to the table. You know how many people bought a console because their friends rant and rave about COD? When games like that are around and they push system sales, it's great for the industry. Now that respective person has a 360 or a PS3 and now look, they rent or try other games like UC or Gears. Think about that before we trash COD or any other mainstream game.
It shouldn't just be one game that sells crazy. I'd rather have multiple games that sell crazy, it would draw in more new gamers as well. To make it better, why not have a couple of games from each genre sell great? Whats the harm in that? Where as if it's just one game than other developers COULD try to be similar to it. And do we want that? Me, personally, no. I want different experiences as far as games go. And btw I agreed with you but just stating that there could be multiple games that sell crazy amounts which to me would be great for the gaming industry.