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Simplify, Simplify: Are modern games being dumbed down?

Elder Scrolls fans are angered over the "streamlining" of Bethesda's upcoming The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. But does streamlining really spell doom for all games? Save and Quit argues that it does not.

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MrSpace2348d ago

Yeah Bethesda said it was so people didn't start the game over six times to get their character right but isn't that the whole point of exploring what best suits your character. I did the same in Fallout 3 and the character creation was made so you didn't really have to do that...but I still did.

Although the thing which bugged me in Oblivion was that if you wanted to be a theif/mage then you couldn't get the best out of magic since you needed to have a lot of magicka to use the best spells, the only way you could do that was to pick a magic type class, the mage star sign and focused all your ablities on magic which in the end didn't leave room for other skills IF you wanted to mix it up and become a mage/theif or a Warrior/mage

RedDead2347d ago (Edited 2347d ago )

In fairness, Skyim is stll like that, you're limited to the perks you get on one playthrough(50 out of 230), which are the real character defining things, it would be the same as starting again in Skyrim, except this time instead of wanting to start again 3 hours in, it will be like 50-75 in. At the 3 hour mark in Skyrim you will likely be thinking of using something you just discovered, as you described above, focus on thief/mage with some sword perks or bow to back it up. Instead of it not being in your major skills in which case....F**k no

That's the real difference, by the time you are lets say level 40 in Skyrim, you WILL be a defined character which would have had a preset name in the others. It just happens over the course of the game instead of right at the beginning.

Oh but eh, I agree with Headline

Anyway with perks, you're weapon of choice is chosen. Sword, ax etc. You're spells(better with Fire), armor type and some random specials(such as lady killer in FO3)

thor2347d ago

The worst thing about Oblivion was that the best strategy was to set your MINOR skills as the ones you will use most often. The entire levelling system was awful.

1PC2PS333602347d ago

yes and no

are there more complicated games out there in 2011 than there were in 2001>>> YES

games like Empire Total War
Civ 5
X3 Terran Conflict

Battlefield 2 and 3

The Witcher 2
Demons Souls

But certain franchises yes, absolutlely, see dragon age 2, mass effect 2

Bladesfist2347d ago

lol civ 5 was dumbed down

Voxelman2347d ago

have you played the early Civ, Total war and wing commander games?

1PC2PS333602347d ago

i played civ 1 wayy back when computers were beige, lol

then skipped 2 and 3 and played some of 4

i have only played 3 hours or so of 5, it was complicated than most games, more so if you develop all your own tiles!

ASSASSYN 36o2347d ago

The highest learning curve game I played was steel battalion. I played so hard and mastered it. Nothing exists on the market for consoles with complexities like that. So yes I see console games as being severly dumbed down.

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