onAXIS report: Following our earlier post, we've confirmed now that Call of Duty 4 does run at 1080p, and sorry for all of the confusion.
I never Doubt it
It upscales. It DOES NOT run natively at 1080p on either console.
It does run natively at 1680*1050 on my PC though. : )
so you should know that the ps3 does NOT upscale ps3 games.. only ps2 or ps1 games.. so the games have to be native 1080p if you want them to play in 1080p, and it really doesn't matter unless you have like a 50" plasma, and i say plasma cause my friend has an 1080p lcd but my 720 plasma runs circles around his.. it looks way better on mine tv than his..
but bottom line it probably will be 1080p on ps3 and 720 on xbox which will be upscaled and nobody will be able to tell the difference
BulletToothTony (cool name btw)
Have you tried unchecking 720p and/or 1080i on your PS3, and then play a 720p PS3 game?
If you willing to spend thousands of dollars to make your PC run these kind of games you got issues. PC gaming will go down the tube becuase of these $500 graphic cards and all that other stuff you need to play ever 2 years.
i am pretty much a 100% sure it isnt native 1080p i will confirm when i get mines tommorrow but i remember having to do the same thing for rainbow 6 vegas because the 1080p and the 1080i were extremely blurry so i would have to take them off. Its essentially the same thing except call of duty's 1080p is not blurry. If it automatically defaults to 720p that is the native resolution. I don't know about ps3 being able to upscale i dnt knw or care enough to find out how it is accomplished all i knw is if it defaults to 720p that is the native setting. I do own both consoles but i will buy on ps3 cus i dnt pay 4 xbox live lol
"so you should know that the ps3 does NOT upscale ps3 games.. only ps2 or ps1 games.. so the games have to be native 1080p if you want them to play in 1080p, and it really doesn't matter unless you have like a 50" plasma, and i say plasma cause my friend has an 1080p lcd but my 720 plasma runs circles around his.. it looks way better on mine tv than his.."
Unlike with the Xbox 360 the PS3 console itself does not do upscaling UNLESS the individual game does it with its software. 360 = hardware upscaling, PS3 = software upscaling (only when game studio has coded it themselves.)
this game uses software upscaling on PS3... that means there is enough power of the Cell left to upscale the image too, and THAT is very impressive!
Cool name dude!
But you know ABSOLUTELY F**KING NOTHING about the PS3 if you think that it does not upscale some games to 1080i/p.
And Panthers - You console on boys have been spelling the end of PC gaming since consoles started selling on store shelves. But guess what?
PC gaming does not try to mimic console gaming, Console gaming tries to mimin PC gaming. Why? Because PC gaming is superior to console gaming and the gaming companies know they can sell more consoles by featuring console type features. (Downloadable content, online play, and Praises be sung to Sony for allowing KB+Mouse support if the devs want to implement it)
If the PS3 can hardware scale, and it's as simple as that, why did the Naughty Dog devs have to ADD 1080i support to ensure compatability with all TVs?
Nor me, it clearly states on the box.:)
its b3autiful. 1 more day and ill be whoopin ass online
where you live? all gametops as far as I know will have today.
I called yesterday to confirm my pick up and they said yes is out today =)
Where I live it has just been delayed to the 16th.I hope it's just a mistake or something on the website,that would suck!
So what happens when the 360 version is found to be cheating to get to 1080p? or hell.. not even do 1080p? Will the xbots leave the ps3 side of this site alone?
Well until the Mass Effect reviews pour in, that game has GOTY written all over it.
Or will they use the halo3 defense..
"Meh, I don't care if its advertised as HD, yet is only 640p(which isn't HD in any shape or form. You cant even tell anyway.. OMG LOOK AT THAT REPLAY VIDEO HAHAH So cool, I love my rrod60."
People like you and jiggyjay (#7) below are ruining this site.
C'mon, what do you have to say about the people who posted and approved the original story then???
Remember, this was about the story of ONE guy, who would have somehow got the game before release. No name, but claiming it was not good. His story got reported on a BLOG. And sure enough, a whole bunch of guys jumped on this blog story, and approved it as a worthy news??? Those are the guys who are ruining News 4 Gamers. After all, this site was never called: Rumours 4 Gamers reported from a blog site.
At this point, I'm thinking people are approving news (or rumors in this case) without even reading them!
a great game is a great game after all
yeah...and only xbots (and i must admit some dumb sony fans..which i am glad that i am not one of those) keep comparing the graphics between the two...get a life, play the game, and be happy
OMG! 1080P CALL OF DUTY 4 ON PS3! I told you guys ps3 version is the way to go! and its out today! i can't wait! OMG!
Probably not native 1080p though.. with the PS3 memory limitations we all know it can't handle that!
you are "a troll" and even worse "a troll" with no good insults. Let alone lets not talk about resolution with a certain huge game.
well then you just need someone to post vids showing 720p and 1080p. if they look the same, its scaled
OK, lets explain...
The PS3 has an internal hardware scaler, which, if they want to output 1080p is almost certainly being used. Unlike the 360 one, its only horizontal scaling, so you need to put an horizontally squashed picture onto it, and get it to scale up.
The resolutions it supports are:-
960x1080, 1280x1080, 1440x1080 and 1600x1080
So lets say for the sake of argument, the developers are using 960x1080 upscaled to 1920x1080, the frontbuffer (the origional image) is still more than a 1280x720 (720p) image. (1,036,800 for 960x1080 as apposed to 921,600).
So at very worst, 1080p is still going to be more detailed than 720p image.
The 360 on the other hand can send (standard, ie 720p) any buffersize to the scaler to upscale to 1080p (or whatever), hence the reason people have been saying things like Halo and Gotham run in 640p.
^^ at least somebody got it :)
I would just like an in-game option, where I could override the default system settings. I'm curious why they don't implement that. Same with Ratchet. IMO way nicer pic at 1080.
sorry love daddy, I misunderstood what you were saying at first and disagreed with you, but I should have agreed. You're right, that's the way the upscaling works in the GT5p demo.
The PS3 doesn't have memory issues. Stop go by what everyone else is saying and do some of your own research. If you really want do to the PS3 memory configuration is much more efficient than the Xbox 360.
1080p @ 60fps. Hmmmmm, which version shall I get?
Well my XBL membership did just run out and I'm only silver now? Do I spend another $100AU on a years membership?
yeah Im so confused on this tittle ! I dont know which version to GET !!
Personally, I'm getting the ps3 version over my 360 because of free online play, 1080p native 60fps.
don worry ur in the minority as most people only have a 360 so they will get he 360 version u two can get ur ps3 version it wont affect sals haha =).
are you crazy
Can't wait for this game. I label COD4 the official "SOCOM KILLER".
Well for me the socom killer was ghost recon. But yea cod 4 does kill socom also.
BLASPHAMY! There is no socom killer. CoD4 is probably better made than any Socom game, but it will not have the same feel to it. I am getting it today, but only to hold me over till Confrontation. THERE IS NO SOCOM KILLER
EDIT: And GRAW was terrible compared to Socom. I know it is just opinion, but nearly every Socom player will agree.
Ofcours is better than SOCOM graphicly, but better than socoms gameplay? You gotta be kidding me! SOCOM's gameplay Murders every FPS and TPS out there! Ofcours someone who sux at socom would say the oposite. There is no other shooter that requires more skills and more strategy than socom to play...
And I got a Samsung 40'' which does 1080p in compoent mode on xbox 360 .But should I get the ps3 version for hdmi 1080p ?
Its a pluss also I get free online with the ps3.
as far as we know, the ps3 version is actually 1080p. the 360 version is 720p. if your tv says its 1080p, its jsut upscaled for the benefit of number whores
First off: you do not know for certain if it's 1080p native, or upscaled on the PS3.
Second: you do not know if it's 720p native or 1080p native for the 360.
In short: you're making assumptions, but one can only tell when both versions are running besides each other with official boxes stating stuff and checking the official output on the video ports.
To the one below: wrong. The PS3 can upscale, but only through software. That is doing horizontal or vertical upscaling at once, not both at the same time. I also don't see what this video proves, besides putting the PS3 settings in 480p or 1080p and unchecking boxes 1080i/720p. So if it wasn't 1080p native one would get a black screen on the PS3? Sounds pretty silly.
And I'm not nervous at all, just like to read the truth. Because I've heard so many lying PS3 stories about so many games that it would run better/higher res etc. and in the end the 360 version was on top, that's why.
But I can see PS3 fans are envy about the ANA chip in the 360, for hardware upscaling which can do the trick if it's needed.
I know for certain you sound nervous.
Besides aren't you Bot always telling us PS3 doesn't have an upscaling chip? If its 1080p it must be native right? Where as Xbox just call whatever the fuk they like 1080p once they blow the picture up enough.
dont be confused by Mart's mindless talks.
1. 1080p @ HDMI is always better than 1080p @ Component . (ask anyone who has used both if you dont believe me ) as your 360 doesnt have HDMI but PS3 does , I think you should opt for the PS3 version.
2. Free Online is an important point. If you dont have a gold subscription with Xbox Live already than you are looking at an extra amount over your game price. Why do that when you can play it in a lag free environment(PSN's most attractive feature IMO ) with all the features of COD4 for free ??
3. As all of the 1080p games on PS3 are natively 1080p and Most of the 1080p games on 360 are not natively 1080p , I think your assumption is pretty much on the spot. Untill devs says otherwise, PS3 COD4 is natively running @ 1080p on PS3. (backed up by all the other 1080p games in PS3. You dont need to be a rocket scientist to follow my logic)
@ rushbd - 1 Hour ago
1080p @ HDMI also gives washed out colours. And if your screen isn't over 42 inch, not many people would notice the difference. Component has more rich colours.
Plus, you can also go VGA on the 360 which gives a sharper output then component. If anyone can see the difference between HDMI and VGA on the average screens that people buy nowadays... I would just take the VGA out then.
Free online important? Don't know. I can jump in a friends game instantly. Even if I'm playing another game. We get clan support from the XBL dashboard soonish. PSN is a copy of the PC online system, it's not integrated, not unified, has no friendlist, no community feeling. I don't experience lag at all playing multiple games. Only Team Fortress 2 in the Orange box has some problems, but that's bad programming and needs to be patched. Gears of War, Halo 3, Forza 2, PGR4, and more all lag free
"Untill devs says otherwise, PS3 COD4 is natively running @ 1080p on PS3. (backed up by all the other 1080p games in PS3. You dont need to be a rocket scientist to follow my logic)"
I think it's the other way around: untill officially stated on the COD4 box and/or by the devs final words that 1080p on PS3 and/or 360 is in place you should be cautious by taking fanboys words of something being a certain thing.
"HDMI also gives washed out colours. Component has more rich colours."
OMFG are you in training for the talking sh*t olympics Mart? I've heard some crap from you mouth before but this takes the cake. Are you really trying to tell us an analogue signal is better quality than an uncompressed digital one? HDMI is the same quality as the source its coming from and you cant get better than the source. As soon as a signal hit an analogue cable its already downgraded. Thats like trying to tell me you can pump more water through a 1 inch hose than you can through a 5 inch hose at the same pressure. It just doesn't add up.
And did you say no lag on Gears? Ha, you must be the only one.
I think "the mart" just disqualified himself from any technical discussions. HDMI provides WAAYYYY more bandwidth than component ever will. TO think that every single manufacturer out there would go thru the expense of making their devices HDMI capable when in "marts" own little world it doesn't provide any benefit whatsoever is beyond STUPIDITY.
I know several of my fellow engineers that would chuckle and just pat you on the head with a "run along child, we got work to do" look.
WTF are you talking about?
PS3 has NATIVE hardware support for 1080p, so if the game is designed to run at 1080p the PS3 displays natively! The only time the upscaler is used is when the source is lower resolution. And AFAIK it DOESN'T upscale PS3 games, only PS1/PS2 and DVD. The main reason being that the cell is used to upscale so it takes a hit on performance.
All I know is that on my PS3, if a PS3 game says it runs in 1080p it will run at 1080p (Ridge Racer 7 For example) and I can see that from my TV menu (like in this video), if it says 720p maximum, It will adjust to 720p, even if my settings are 1080p in the XMB. And no matter what you try, it will only run at 720p (Motorstorm for example) You can't make the PS3 scale PS3 games!
Thats where the Xbox 360's hardware scaler has an advantage, but all that means is that NO xbox 360 games are native 1080p, they are at most 720p/1080i native (dictated by hardware) and then hardware upscaled to 1080p with the ANA.
And HDMI more washed out than Component? Are you on crack? try getting a PS3 on a TV that supports full RGB and set it on the PS3. Now output it through component on the EXACT same set and you tell me which looks the best. I've tried it myself and the picture difference is dramatically better on HDMI, much more vibrant colours and even more important contrast/brightness. VGA is better than Component, yes, but its still not as vibrant as HDMI (you can't test VGA on PS3, but you could run an Xbox 360 along side). The thing is you need a good quality modern TV.
And really Mart, your such a blind Xbox fanboy how can you expect anyone to believe anything you say?
Wow MART - that was the most stupid comment I ever heard on this forum. Well - lucky me - as I have the component cables for the PS3. And this "washed out colors" story is really really lame. Art direction determines the color scheme what you call wash out - or cartoony colors. My PS2 games play well on the PS3 - many of them with cartoony colors - so must I believe you that the PS3 can play PS2 games in vibrant rich colors - but the moment it is native PS3 it suddenly becomes "washed out"? Wow man - you must be the poepol of the year.
On the other note - I don't think the PS3 version is native 1080p - so people - just chill out. It is most probably a higher native resolution than the XB360 - upscaled - and peoples - just read more info on the scaler on the PS3 and the XB360 before making stupid comments. The XB360 is not where most of you are pointing to - it sits somewhere else - embedded if you like. And the PS3 scaler can do both h & v scaling - just that Sony is holding back on that - most probably because they believe it will downgrade the targets they are setting. Much debate around that - but that is their prerogative as the platform owner.
In the end - it looks good for both platforms - PS3 version might have slight edge - but not so much that you can make a federal case out of it. Just enjoy the friggin game and leave the other platform alone.
'1080p @ HDMI also gives washed out colours. And if your screen isn't over 42 inch, not many people would notice the difference. Component has more rich colours.
What ever remaining crediablity you had has just flown out the window. Basically now i think its fair to discredit you from any conversations which involve any technolgy at all. How do you do it mart? You have officially been owned
fisrt of all, TheMART, you started pretty normal in that first comment, but the rest was pure bullcrap... please leave this site and go play your beloved 360.
now we got that piece of crap out of the way,
Bifter, theMART was right at 1 point, the PS3 DOES PS3-game upscaling... but only if the programmers allow this: they have to program it in the game :)
more about copyright protection than picture quality.
the only problem with MART that he doesn't have PS3, I'm not sure he even have HDTV, so he just talk what he knows... and sorry to tell that what he knows is not beyond his own imagination.
so pity that you only know VGA cable, I'm not sure he knows about DVI either.
720p native... and can run at 1080P
This is a non-issue. Both consoles can upscale too 1080p
you have no clue what youre talking about. the console cannot make it look better than the devs designed
Crap, now it's going to look jaggy on my 720p TV. Hopefully I can find this game tommorow so I can get a high online rank early.
it wont, it also runs at 1280x720, so it will look fine
Call Gamestop around 10am and ask them when they expect it, they usually have extras but this game might be hot so who knows.
::360 trolls scatter and return to their holes::
Now raise your hand if you just got PWNED. Come on. Admitting that your an A$$ is the first step toward recovery, then go to the store and pick up a PS3 post haste.
Nice, perhaps now people can stay on their side of the fence if they don't have something nice to say.
Minutiae, minutiae, minutiae, son. Just enjoy your time here. Don't get bogged down in the small details.
im picking this up today after lunch =)
its out today or does it ship today? Sometimes they put the release dates but its the shipping date and it arrives the next day. I could have sworn I saw available Nov. 6th.
after lunch im heading to the store. ill post in the forums if I do get it today =)
My gamestop said today around 1pm EST. Im going to go check. I hope they have some left.
who doubted it? it clearly states it on the back of the box, is that not confirmation enough? strange....
anyway, damn you lucky americans, 4 more days wait here in the UK.
some are releasing this early so better call and ask your local gamestop or gameshop. here in jacksonville they are releasing it this afternoon. at least thats what ive been told.
I'll call first thing in the morning, I live in LA so who knows what the hell is going on here. Hopefully they release it today.
Anyhow, this is no news as we all knew this was the case that the PS3 runs in TRUE 1080p, this announcement has singlehandedly made a great many of the 360 minions eat a huge slice of humble pie, I will leave it to someone else to compile a list of all the comments fools made when the news that the PS3 version of COD4 wasn't 1080.
Good night gents, add me if you have not already (Tashito), I will see you online tomorrow and I look forward to putting some caps in your A$$ and playing some good old CTF, etc. Game on......
I wonder why its big news that the ps3 can run a game in 1080P allready...wasnt this allready known for all ps3 games?? the xbox 360 has 1080 P as well..so looks like both versions are identical..until we get the comparison video.
every1 saying that the PS3 upscale.... since when did Sony add that to PS3 and what update was it? Last time i checked if the PS3 said 1080p it was REAL 1080p lol And last Blu ray was made to do HD because DVD couldn't... so 360 dvd version .. HD??? lol or Blu ray PS3 version REAL HD.
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Hope that helps. It still gives you a slightly higher resolution then 1280x720, and unless its shabby implemented (like in RB6V), it gives you a better picture (like in Ratchet).
Too bad I only have a 26'' bravia.