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Submitted by Mr_Lu_Kim 1100d ago | news

EA on Steam Store Disappearances, BF3 still not coming?

When Crysis 2 conspicuously vanished from the Steam store a few weeks back, speculation was rife that EA had monopolised it for sale under their own Origin distribution platform. Speculation ran further rife with the worry that the same might end up being true for the upcoming Battlefield 3, and no-one was pleased. Now, EA have publicly commented on the move, with the head of their global e-commerce division, David DeMartini, releasing a statement on the matter today. (Battlefield 3, EA, PC, Steam)

Credit url: games.on.net
Kamikaze135  +   1101d ago
I call BS on it. If that was really the case, why is Dragon Age 2 still on there? In fact, why are ANY of their games on there?
Mr_Lu_Kim  +   1101d ago
Did you read the story and then go to the EA forums and read what the EA man said???

I really really want this game. But I am not getting it at all if getting it on Steam means having to install Origin as well, it works horrible for Steam Games that use Games For Windows Live.

EA have always had terrible customer service and their old "EA download manager" ew ew ew.

I really want this on PC but I'll give it the miss if Origin is 100% guaranteed required even if I buy retail or Steam copies.

I could just get it for the PS3 /s lol
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Pandamobile  +   1101d ago
Why do you guys act like Origin is the end of the world. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it besides the fact that it's not Steam.

Crysis 2 was removed from Steam because Crytek had some exclusive agreement with Gamespy to distribute the DLC. That was against one of Valve's policies, so, Valve removed it.

I doubt EA will keep BF3 off Steam.
Mr_Lu_Kim  +   1101d ago
What country do you live in Panda?

The Australian zoning prices on Origin are WALLET RAPE!

I had a look and considered the pre-order but first tried origin and the EA store. No thanks no how.

If it does come to Steam and then requires you to log in to Origin each time to play I am out. I have read that even retail copies will still force you to use Origin to initiate the install so you can't even buy retail just for the SP and stay offline.

The worst thing is having to loose the ability to use Steam voice chat, all my friends list and the community features to a far worse service.
led1090  +   1101d ago
@ lu kim - Well that works both ways buddy. I live in india, and the steam standard rates of 40$ are too expensive. On origin, games are priced more reasonably at 20$. So whats bad for you is good for me and might be for others too
Mr_Lu_Kim  +   1101d ago
@led1090

I am sure $40 of what ever it is you guys use over in India is a lot /s

$40 anywhere is good. Let me do a comparison the $100 AU they want for a new game on origin comes to 4,777.13 INR if that makes any sense to you.

I would be happy with $40 which is only 1,910.85 INR. EA and their whore Origin is just out to rip big bucks of stupid people.
evrfighter  +   1100d ago
I've never trusted EA even before BF3 was announced during the whole hippie we love EA bandwagon and I always voiced that when I could.

I can care less about Origin as I have a few games on comrade, a few games on EADL, and a few games on impulse, oh and a few games on GFWL, and one or two games on GoG

see where I'm getting at?

Problem is it's becoming a pain in the ass keeping track of all these games. Now what happens should THQ or Ubisoft enter the DD platform game? It becomes a huge mega cluster fuck of games spread out everywhere.
Disccordia  +   1099d ago
I just want one unified system for pc gaming. It's convenient and that's why up until now steam has been great. If other publishers start doing this then I am afraid that I'll be turning my back completely away from pc gaming
BattleAxe  +   1099d ago
"Unfortunately, if we’re not allowed to manage this experience directly and establish a relationship with you, it disrupts our ability to provide the support you expect and deserve. At present, there is only one download service that will not allow this relationship. This is not our choice, and unfortunately it is their customer base that is most impacted by this decision. We are working diligently to find a mutually agreeable solution."

So basically they're trying to cut digital distributors out of the loop when it comes to selling DLC. Personally I hate the way EA is going about selling DLC. I don't want to go through a separate store to buy DLC for Mass Effect, Crysis 2 or any other game, I want to buy DLC the same way I can on the Playstation Store, that way I always have access to it. Look at Burnout Paradise for PC, you have to go through EA's online store to buy the DLC, only problem is that they've shut down the Burnout Paradise Marketplace so its impossible to download any of the add-ons now.

Doing business like this makes things harder for the gamer, and I bet that if EA did a survey, they would find that nobody wants the "special relationship" that this dick keeps talking about. Give us the games, and support the games with DLC made available to the digital distributor that we bought the game from.
DeadlyFire  +   1099d ago
Same thing happened when HL2 required STEAM. Everyone bitched and moaned, but who loves STEAM now?

Why are yall so scared of the Origin? Its the same thing. EA will learn and it will grow just as Valve has done.

Glad I won't be seeing whiny players on my Battlefield.
NCAzrael  +   1099d ago
Except that EA hasn't learned, and the EA Store/EA Link/Origin hasn't come close to what Valve has done with Steam. Steam has succeeded in being what Games for Windows LIVE wanted to be: a unified PC platform. Valve gets PC gamers, because that is who they develop for first and foremost. Look at the summer sale currently going on, and the constant weekend deals, not to mention the way Steam makes managing my PC games (even ones not purchased through Steam) easier than managing my console games could ever be.

If EA wants to launch a service to try to compete with Steam, that's fine. I'm all for fair business practices. I've even defended EA's Online Pass business model, so it's not like I'm anti-EA. I am, however, pro-Steam, and I want the *choice* to use my preferred platform to buy and more importantly manage my games.

In 6 years Steam has continued to grow and improve and make me happy with my PC gaming experience. And in 6 years the EA store has failed to live up to any of its potential, and as far as I know still charges extra just to ensure that I can reinstall my games several years later should I find myself in a situation where I lose my install data.
DeadlyFire  +   1099d ago
Well they can't learn very on how to build a better service without consumers. Noone is going to want to jump into Origin unless its on par or better then STEAM and EA can't do that without learning a few things from the consumers and testing their service.

Its possible they want Origin to require authentication of some kind for new EA games like Battlefield 3 and it might violate a STEAM policy. Either way could you think of a better way to launch your online service then by requiring one of the major games to be locked into it.

STEAM and EA are very friendly though they are not enemies. Any publisher sees dollar signs isn't going to lock out a way to sell a game unless they believe it benefits them more so to do it that way. I see Mass Effect series on STEAM.
news4geeks  +   1100d ago
Luckily I'm not into these casual FPS games or I would be very disappointed.
Raptura  +   1100d ago
As I post this, not a single person has any agrees and everyone has at least one disagree. I find it amusing.

Anyway, I want this game on Steam. I have Origin, I have games on there, but I don't want to use it.
darksied  +   1098d ago
I know this was more than a day ago, but one quick comment on this: you know that you don't have to use Origin, right? Origin will activate your game, and then you never have to have it running again. On the other hand, Steam will always have to be running in the background. Just to be clear.
Bonobo12345  +   1100d ago
well, just got a sweet ass PC but it looks as if I'll be getting this for PS3.. Bummer man, I REALLY like steam.
Sarobi  +   1100d ago
I Believe BF3 will make it on to Steam, the last thing EA wants is to find out that they are pissing off their most loyal consumers, which is the PC Gamers.
RememberThe357  +   1100d ago
EA pushing their service on to PC gamers is pretty f*ckin lame. If Origin really offers so much more than let people choose to use it. Requiring people to use a service has only worked on consoles and usually fails elsewhere.

BF3 could be amazing but requiring people to log into a service that they find annoying could ruin the experience of what would otherwise be a great game. EA need to tread softly with this.
darksied  +   1098d ago
People probably said the same thing about Valve and Steam many years back. But Steam has been around for NINE YEARS (or so). EA's service is new by comparison. They need time to make it on par with Steam.
BeastlyRig  +   1100d ago
To be honest origin is not that bad.. Sometimes prices are good! They just need to grow the community part like steam..

I understand a lot of people don't want steam to have competition. I am not one of them. It will make things cheaper!

I am expecting better & more direct support for BF3 on origin so I might buy it there.

I can still run it in steam anyway like I do onlive..

It's not like we will be playing on steam servers.. It's EA servers!
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Trunkz Jr  +   1100d ago
Like all the games you own on that bookshelf? Now imagine having to go all the way to the basement just to grab your BF3 and bring it all the way up, it's that annoying...

People like myself want all our games kept in 1 nice spot. Last thing you want is every company making their own digital service just for their brand of games...
NYC_Gamer  +   1100d ago
i am sticking with one service and thats steam.this move doesnt bother me since all the games i want will be available on my service of choice.
Inside_out  +   1099d ago
More EA lies...no surprise
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EA is easily the most dishonest company going. As soon as they have a little momentum, they stab the companies and people who have been loyal to them in the back. Some fanboys will tell you how they are right and it's only business...lol...EA just made a big mistake. There is a right way to do things and a wrong way...EA is wrong all the time. Remember EA...you see the same people on the way down as on the way up.

I feel sorry for for Valve but they have to realize that this is the future. Valve has been too lazy and slow to react to market conditions and making their system the must have system.

Where is the next Half Life??? Counterstrike could easily be as good, and many would argue better than COD...where is it??? Valve better figure out what they want because I expect Ubisoft, ThQ, Bethesda, Gearbox and maybe the biggest one, Activision will be exploring these same type of models for their IP's.

BTW... One BIG advantage for Valve and Steam is the number 1, Battlefield/MOH/ EA-Dice crushing fps is releasing this year and WILL NOT be on EA's " sign your life over to us site "...that is COD. Valve should make sure to really hype that BIG, BIG difference. That and release their own crushing FPS in Counterstrike. Gabe is going to look slimmer and slimmer...trust me, the party is over.
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NCAzrael  +   1099d ago
So what you're saying is that Steam isn't as big as it could be because Valve hasn't given us HL3/Ep3 yet? At this point Steam and Half-Life are not one and the same. Steam isn't a game, it's a Digital Distribution Platform, and last time I checked it had plenty of games to make it worth having. You almost have to look at Valve in two different ways. There is Valve the game designer, who admittedly might be a bit slow to bring us a new Counter-Strike or the next installment of the Half-Life saga, but still brings us huge and enjoyable hits like Left 4 Dead and Portal 2, and there's Valve the distributor, who brings us the most solid and seamlessly integrated PC gaming platform to date.

As for CoD, I'd rather be forced to buy 2 copies of BF3 and have a constant internet connection or be forced to reinstall my game than give any more money to the spawn of Satan known as Bobby Kotick. When it comes down to it, Origin is by far the lesser of the two evils. Not to mention that CoD hasn't been original or innovative since the first Modern Warfare.

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