VelocityGamer writes: There's no doubt the internal rumblings that keep coming to surface suggest to me something is going to, or is happening, concerning the next-gen, maybe sooner than we think.
Enough of next gen already.
It's big news if ture. I for one can't wait to play native 1080P games (on consoles) Bring it, I'm ready for it.
Nintendo said in January, they have no need to release a Wii successor! In june, they announced a Wii successor! MS and Sony have both denied next gen consoles in the works... who wants to bet they get announced in the first quarter of 2012? Kinect is showing me that the 360 is shifting towards being a second console. Similar to having a Ps2 around the house somewhere! While Ps3 does have some extra power to stick it out another year or two... Don't think for one second that Sony will make the mistake of being the last to launch again! I am content with my 360 and Ps3... but if new consoles were announced.... F*ck both of them, i'm all in!
I myself don't care what resolution games are in next-gen. They'll look better no matter what. I'm pretty sure that BOTH the PS4 and 360 successor are almost finalized spec wise now. They'll probably both be announced at E3 next year. What I find funny though is that a lot of third parties are the one's complaining about limitations of the current gen consoles. NON of them have even maxed out the PS3 yet. ONLY Sony's first party studios like Santa Monica Studio, Guerrilla Games, Naughty Dog, etc, have come close and NONE of them are complaining. I'm pretty sure that ALL of these studios are working on PS4 development in one way or anther. That would explain why SMS and GG are silent about their games. The other day ND said that any Uncharted after Uncharted 3 would be running on a new engine. Why would they need a new engine when theirs is maxing out the console alredy? That's right it is because it is NOT for the current gen console. The next-gen IS coming SOONER than later. The PS3 and 360 have been out for 5-6 years now respectively. It is time for them to take a rest and let someone else to take their place. The ONLY ones really complaining about the next-gen consoles are the ones who have recently gotten one or more of the current gen consoles. You guys are later adopters and will ALWAYS be late adopters. Those of us who have had the current consoles since launch or soon after are ready for the next-gen and open it with open arms.
I find all this talk about the "almost here" next gen a little silly actually. Do you guys really think Sony is ready to drop the PS3 as their main platform and jump next gen when the PS3 is still at a $300 price point? do people really think the market is ready for another $500+ console with all the power you are expecting it to have, in order to run games with advanced shaders and geometry at 1080p and 60fps? I dont think so. I totally dont think Sony is ready to absorb another loss on their hardware division, introducing a new home console, when the PS3 is still capable of running games with innovative gameplay and good physics. What is next gen meant to deliver anyway besides 1080p and (supposedly) 60fps?
If PC is the defining factor for what next gen is, then we're definitely not there yet. We're not seeing PS2 to PS3-type graphical leaps yet.
Here is the thing that makes me ponder. When new consoles arrive they will be powerhouses most likely running nice visuals @ 1080p. Like all gens the software gets better overtime with fine tuning game engines and such. What happens later in the cycle when the PC ports really start to move away again. Do we revert back to 720p output to keep those graphics in check? Or do MS/Sony force game designers to keep those resolutions. That will be interesting I believe. Maybe both console will just upscale regardless of the actual real output. I would love to see dual output for real this time to play on to monitors or TVs with a buddy If I wanted as a option. Doubt it will happen but would be nice if it was there. I still would rather have these consoles in about 2 more years. I think it will go down in 2013/2014. I just hope that the games don't jump up to 70 bucks a pop -the tax.
I'll stick with my PS3 for at least 2-3 years after they release the PS4. Devs will still make games for PS3 and probably support it for a longer period of time with top game franchises as opposed to the drop off of major franchise support that happened with the PS2 after PS3 was released. Personally I don't think the next generation of consoles will sell as fast as this generation did. Also, because of Digital distributors like Steam, PC gaming is coming back in a huge way. Personally I think the PSV is Sony's new focus rather than releasing another full blown console a year or so from now.
it used to be that you can't swear on N4G, now you can and they just take your bubbles for doing it. it's childish entrapment. grow up n4g. also, i want next gen consoles.
Zink want a bigger leap in graphics. Build a gaming pc. I bet any money a gaming pc 2 years ago will be better then next gen consoles. All of the next gen consoles willt ake the safe route and go profit day 1.Low power machines with old hardware.
until PC's get quality exclusives and not just 2 or 3 a year and not counting MMO's, none of what you said will matter
@ DarkFantasy "until PC's get quality exclusives and not just 2 or 3 a year" You mean like Socom 4 and how that is a "quality" exclusive? The PC gets a heck of a lot more exclusives a year than the PS3, 360 AND Wii combined. Whether it's "quality" is up to the individual that buys the game. Do your research and stop acting like an ignorant fanboy. The ONLY area where PC falters is the cost to build the PC in order to have the best of a game and the rapid progression of PC parts.
I don't want a new gen console... I want freaking new cool game IPs. I believe we have given enough money to M$ and Sony to screw us over with new machines... GIVE US GAMES YOU GREEDY HYPOCRITES!
There are a BOAT LOAD of great games for both consoles. Its just too difficult to please some people though. Everything must be AAA!!!! Also.. Don't release games aimed at casuals! They don't deserve to game!!!
@sinclaircrown shut the f$&k up everyone deserves to game.
@milohighclub: although I disagree with sinclairclown, I'm pretty sure he/she was being sarcastic - and it was pretty obvious... also, your flamebait, h8er username belies your 'everyone deserves to b gamerzzz!!' comment.
I Agree silenius not enough new ip's and too many sequels,not i like sequels but were are the new games!!!
@silvacrest Stronghold 3 Ghost recon online Star wars old republic online Red Orchestra 2: Heroes Of Stalingrad Diablo 3 Dota 2 Natural Selection 2 Infact just look at link inc games alreay out http://www.gamemunition.com...
I gotta agree with Sinterfire. Its not that I'm over these consoles. Rather, I love seeing what else can be done in the gaming industry. Right now people are saying "PS3 still has so many good games coming out". Yeah, that's true, but I think as far as quality goes, its likely these consoles are about "maxed out". We got some awesome games, and I'm sure more will come in the next year or so, but the new consoles must be on the way. Even if WiiU isn't much of a leap from PS3 in power, fact is it will still be the most powerful console out there, and Sony and MS can't allow that to happen for too long. Before you know some amazing games will come out for WiiU if done correctly. PS4 and 720 need to happen within 18 months of WiiU launch. Well, not "need" but I think it would be the smartest idea.
Too many PS3 games coming still.
they'll still work when the PS4 comes out...
so bluray isnt 1080p native ? ... does the ps3 changes its HD from games to movies ?
Same story, different article. Im gonna go create my own article now, theres already hundreds of them. *goes to write article about next-gen*
hopefully. we need new consoles
the gap between the PS3 and PC is much lower than the gap between the PS2 and the PC back in the time. The ps3 and 360 are today still more powerfull than many laptops. Take max payne 2 for example , the difference between the PC and ps2 version was huge. Most pc games weren't even released on the PS2 because of the weak hardware. This isn't the case with the current gen.Today the difference between console and pc games is much smaller.
the differance is increasing, by 2012/2013 it will be pritty big.
are you for real? do remember that because most games are multiplat the game usually carries the "genes" of the least powerful console or should i say the most convinient to program for regardless to what that may be. today's PC power has surpassed consoles significantly but it's being hindered by the just mentioned fact. for all the good reasons, i vote Yes to new consoles. play your cards better this time MS, Sony and Nintendo.
LOL the PS3 is more powerful than what laptops? I don't see any laptops out there with 512 MB of RAM. Hell, there are droids cell phones that can out muscle the consoles in that department.
i am pretty certain you don't know what you are talking about. a 3.0ghz Core 2 Duo pc, 2gig ram, and a 4850/9800 is an overkill to match any console game ( including Uncharted 1,2,3 and GOW3) i mean tell me any console game that looks better than Crysis 1 on pc. Not even the ps3's fanboys' Uncharted and God of War 3.
"i am pretty certain you don't know what you are talking about. a 3.0ghz Core 2 Duo pc, 2gig ram, and a 4850/9800 is an overkill to match any console game" true , but there are still people with budget pc's the 360 and ps3 are much better than these systems: Mobile Intel 4 Series Express 1.31% -0.37% NVIDIA GeForce 8400 0.63% -0.05% NVIDIA GeForce 9400 1.01% -0.30% NVIDIA GeForce 8600M 1.06% -0.23% NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 1.14% -0.44% NVIDIA GeForce 7600 0.51% -0.11% (NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1.20% +0.12%)--> might be a draw (I exclude ati GPU's because I'm not experienced with these cards) http://store.steampowered.c... I got to admit tough that this last has become small.Last year it was three times as big.
i cant wait to see what the ps4 will look like.
IM READY, even though its totally unnecessary..
I really hope it's 2013. Next year would be early for me. Both consoles still have another year or so in them.
sony would really be shooting themselves in the foot, their finally doing well and to put out a new console would be a disaster.
not entirely. They have the fan base now, they have the exclusives etc. It's not like everyone has to switch over right away. I'm probably not going to switch my console for atleast half a year just considering the possible failure rates of the consoles.
They won't be doing it next year but Microsoft could be. Sony have Vita to concentrate on. Edit: Actually I just remembered they have Halo 4 coming next year so I doubt MS would launch in 2012. Maybe they reveal 2012 then 2013 launch
I don't think it could be any earlier than 2013. Mainly since all the big hit titles that are coming out for the consoles early in the year. That's the one thing i've actually noticed. MOST of the big hit titles of next year are coming out in the spring so who knows what'll be next.
I wonder how Xbox live and PSN will transition. Example do some games like a cod that is released on xbox360 and next gen Xbox play online together. Or would it cause confusion and lack of incentive to move up to the latest and greatest. I wish I had a micro fly on the wall of Microsoft and Sony headquarters LOL.
Not a bad read. I can see this gen of consoles beginning to peak out, even the PS3 despite Sony's continued growth. I'm thinking 2012 for Wii U (obviously), maybe 2012 for one of the other players, but not likely. Definitely a 2013 launch for anyone not already out by then, however.
My fatty PS3 has plenty of life left.
Still have my $500.00 console lol and still living. For now. Unfortunatley my first controller met a brutal end (thanks call of duty)
the problem is and surprisingly so, Sony didn't excell this generation compared to the last! just check the PS1 or PS2's library, it was incredibly great. new IPs and multiple sequels for the popular games, how many do we have today?! Onimusha - 4 on PS2 | 0 on PS3 Dark Cloud - 2 on PS2 | 0 on PS3 Vewtiful Joe - 2 on PS2 | 0 on PS3 Maximo - 2 on PS2 | 0 on PS3 Jak and Daxter - 3 on PS2 | 0 on PS3 ZOE - 2 on PS2 | 0 on PS3 MGS - 2 on PS2 | 1 on PS3 FF - 3 on PS2 | 1 on PS3 (offline only) DMC - 3 on PS2 | 1 on PS3 Atlus RPGs Persona, SMT, DDS - 5 on PS2 | 0 on PS3 GOD - 2 on PS2 | 1 on PS3 Kingdom Hearts - 2 on PS2 -| 0 on PS3 and so many other outstanding games: ICO, SotC, Okami, Twisted Metal, TimeSplitters, Prince of Persia, Silent Hill, the list is infinite. and that's just in less than 6 years. imagine how it would be if these console sellers were treated right. compared to last gen, i'd say MS and Nintendo has done a great job but it's time for new consoles. like it or not, that's the fact. *some disagree, what a pitty*
Sony did pretty well but the ps2 catalog was insanely huge and diverse. I think one thing that happened besides motion controls this gen was the first person shooter phenomena.
dont forget that online multiplayer in general has exploded
360 can't substain next year they have no games beside halo and people already bought 360 for halo anyway, but ps3 they having few big blockbuster games that can sell over millions with last guardian, agent, and ffvs13 which will push bunch of units.
Right because people only play exclusives, there's no blockbuster multi platform games to play like dark souls or skyrim or battlefield 3
i said next year in 2012 those games are in 2011, im saying next year going to be pretty dry for 360 owners so they are preparing for next gen console, but ps3 can last much longer b/c they still have big block buster games comming.
how can you know that?is MS sharing information with you?and i am sure they will have quite a few multiplats next year,as always.
How will Agent sell millions? No one even knows what it is or even seen a glimpse of it. Who knows if it's even ever going to come out
we know the wii u is coming next year. And we know the others will follow
I agree, ms and Sony are not going to let nintendo have the most powerful console for too long
Im just hoping all this talk & rumors leads to masive price drops of current gen. Ive had my ps3 going on 4+ years now & i want to try out the 360, but im holding out until we get another price drop, i dont consider all these stupid gift cards after the fact as a discount, once they start knocking these prices off MSRP i will be at best buy that day to buy one. I want about a year of both xbox360 & ps3 so i can make an honest opinion of which next gen i want. Or should i say which one i buy first :)
This gen doesn't mean next gen. I bet Sony will KILL Xbox with hardware.
I'm pretty sure Sony and ms are going to drop their new console around November 2013 a year later than the Wii u. Most likely announce them a few weeks before the Wii u launches to kill the hype. Expect to hear from them next e3 possibly but most likely Tokyo gameshow 2012.
i dont think MS or sony will wait that long MS wont because they know just how significant their year + head start on sony was, and sony no just how damaging it was for them no way either company is going to leave it an entire year
yup Oct 25 next gen will be here!!
Next gen has been coming since shortly after the current gen started. I think MS and/or Sony will show at least some of their cards by next year's E3, with one or both launching by the end of 2013. I don't feel the need for a new console yet though. I still have plenty of games to look forward to this gen.
new consoles? But I still haven't yet picked up a ps3...
I'd love a new console, I'm a sucker for graphics but too damn cheap to buy a pc : )
It is not about what we consumers need or want. It is what the developers who make games want. And they want new consoles. They are the ones who invest millions of dollars to make and market games. Developers have in their possession game engines that cannot run on current gen consoles. These engines will shape next gen consoles just like epic was instrumental in shaping the very design of the Xbox 360 when they presented gears of war running a demo at 512 ram and with 256. It got the 512. That influence far exceeds what the public will provide to consoles developers. And I got a feeling crytek and epic will yet again influence not just the next Xbox but also the ps4.
Man, too many of these articles floating around here at N4G. Always the same news over and over again. We all know next-gen is coming so to make these articles is really pointless.
Suuuuure it will Sony has released nothing concrete about the PS4. We just know that it's planned which is pretty inevitable anyway. These speculation articles are really just getting obnoxious now. The only ones we actually have confirmed for real are whatever the fuck the next Xbox is gonna be (God why? I hope it fails as soon as it's released. Get that shit out of the market before it poisons everything.) And the Wii-U...which speaks for itself. Isn't technically next-gen but whatever. Can't we bring SEGA back in place of Microsoft? Isn't there somebody who can just tell MS to fuck off and stop making consoles? Can somebody else PLEASE fill that spot? I really don't want them to come back.
These speculation articles have been happening forever and won't stop. Speculation is part of the fun, especially when you discover some are right on the money. Nothing wrong with making educated guesses. And I don't know why people like you are so troubled by a console. Why are you threatened? You have major issues if a console's existence is a big problem for you. But if your a kid, which is likely the case given you vilify an inanimate object as if it affects you, then there isn't much I guess you could preoccupy your life with. By the way... Get one of those.
No shit, tell me something I don't know. Speculation is part of the fun to an extent. From my point of view, none of these articles have been especially fun to read. I really don't see how any of them are right on the money when nothing has been confirmed about any of the next-gen consoles. Have fun taking shots in the dark though; I can't say I agree at all. Especially when some articles spread misinformation or are created specifically to cause flame wars among people who actually care about "teh console warz" People like me specifically aren't troubled or threatened by a console, we just don't want to see it anymore. We're pretty much sick of Microsoft. I'm only including others here because you said "people like you" implying there are multiple people who share my specific opinions. If so then great, they're doing the gaming world some good. It is my opinion that Microsoft is an infection festering within the ever growing wound of the gaming industry and I will stand behind it 100% I have major issues because I don't want another Xbox to come around? Not sure how that implies anything about my mental wellbeing at all. Maybe you're the one taking it too seriously. Lol @ you pulling the ever tired age card when you read something you don't quite agree with. Who are you to even attempt to put me in my place? I'm not villifying anything. To villify something would mean that I actually have a fairly high opinion of it since "Evil" is a term of endearment to me. To me Microsoft is a bullshit company that makes bullshit products that keep getting lapped up by brainless morons who are satisfied with the same experience over and over again. Hardly what I'd consider villainous but again, it's just my personal opinion. Also, how are they going to even attempt or even think about pushing another console when they can't even secure exclusives to their current system other than the usual suspects which are Halo, Gears and Forza? This isn't anywhere close to my life. I maybe spend 10-20 minutes here a day if even that and I don't invest any thought in Microsoft unless I'm here reading bullshit so what should I get? I really love how you can't just dislike something without there being something wrong with you or your personal life. Quit focusing on me as a person and tell me why you actually think Microsoft should come around again. Why should there be another Xbox? What has Microsoft done that is so great?
Lol! Assassin made you mad. Hahaha! You wrote a log comment to something that clearly bothered you. How disturbed is that.
@ Deadman_Senji, you sir are a raging idiot!
This cant be true. I need to get saving just in case lol
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