Insomniac Games’ James Stevenson reveal several new details regarding the player count and map size options for the upcoming Playstation 3 exclusive game, Resistance 3.
not caring about one more thing untill they cancel the online pass. i buy used games as i dont have money for new ones, and if they still have it i cant play online. retarted
Serves you right I say. Enjoy the campaign :) @all haters - you are using their servers so I think it's only fair. You didn't pay them for the game, so why should they let you use their servers?
lolol funny. you really think im going anywhere near this game if it has some sort of "pass" this is a slap in the face to RES 1 and 2 players.
that's stupid its like buying a used car and not being able to go out of town because the seller said so
i love the pass idea, haters need to get richer or buy a xbox.
wow.. u gave us the classic.. im not buying this game if.. but dude, u are actually not counting.. the game bought used has already been bought and counted.. soo why should anyone care about what u want? especially insomniac.. u dont contribute to their games.. only to the re seller
That's stupid it's like buying a used car and expecting the original manufacture to keep putting gas in it for you or having the original warranty or expecting them to fix it for you whenever you break it. See you can look at it both ways...even though both are terrible analogies.
Wait, my car's manufacturer is supposed to be paying for my gas?? Darn it i've been doing it so wrong all these years!
@news4geeks: I don't follow. How is buying the game used and playing online adding to their server load? It's not like the original owner is still using the severs...
EVERY copy that was bought, Insomniac was paid for period. Even if the game is resold, Insomniac was paid for on that copy.
I really wish they had some maps for larger scale fights. The 60 player maps were too big, but 40 was just fine back in FOM. At least give us 32 player maps :( some of us like the big scale battles. It should be: 32 16v16 24 12v12 16 8v8 8 4v4 4 2v2 Who could complain about that?
So...if I buy a game then let my buddy borrow it while he is laid up with a slipped disc in his back he shouldn't be able to play online? All "used" copies are not just rentals. I trade games with friends all the time. We all cannot afford to drop $60 bucks every time a game comes out.
if you can afford a used game, you can save up a few more shekels and buy it NEW, im sick of hearing people cry poor, get a job, a real job, and you wont have this problem. support these developers who are feeding their family just like the rest of us.
I AM SUPPORTING THEM by telling them dont waste there hard working time and hard earned money on a pass. u see how much negativity its causing? less people want it then more
I'm also sick of hearing people cry "Get a job" like it's an easy thing to do in this climate.
@ Derek How are you supporting them when they get no profit from used game sales at all?? I understand that gaming is almost a luxury today, but if you can get money for used games, maybe you can wait a bit more and get enough for a new game at launch or when it hits discount. There is always a way and if you really can't then just rent or look for a cheaper hobby.
I'm sick of people treating video game studios like charities. Seriously, don't worry...they'll be able to afford Christmas dinner this year.
And you have never downloaded a song? Watched a movie online? Took a slice of pizza from a buddy? Should Pizza hut make disintegrating toppings so if it leaves the purchasers hands they vanish? I'm just playing devil's advocate here because it's not just buying used or rentals. People share games. Trade and swap. It's part of the culture. If developers want more money then charge more for a new copy. I'd much rather pay 65 bucks (compared to 60 in USA) than have to get nickle and dimed for passes, DLC and whatnot.
People who buy used have about as much power over the devs as Illigal aliens (people who can't vote) have over politicians. Save up 5 more dollars and buy new, or just do what i do and wait for a sale. Just got brutal legend and fallout new vegas for 15 bucks total. NEW.
People complaining about not being able to buy used aren't buying the 5 dollar less used copies from places like gamestop, they're people who are buying them for like 15+ less than the new price from places like amazon or ebay. Honestly if there are people who are too cheap that they wont pay a 5 dollar difference, then they can go f themselves, but that's only a small minority of people. Most people take advantage of the highly discounted used online used game sales, because not all of us can afford to buy every game new. I buy new when I can, but when I cant, I buy used. I would love to support the developers as much as I can (provided they deserve it), but supporting developers isn't my top priority when dividing my hard earned money amongst different, more important expenses. And I will not wait 3 months to a year and sacrifice potential fun just to support devs when I can just buy used.
Sony/devs must try to get profit from used game sales... This isn't the first time Sony does this and they have said before that they support this practice. Do some extra work, get a part-time job or something and get the game new or just rent.
So there are maps for 4 player action... so is there 4 player split-screen offline MP? Always great to have some friends over and jam some MP.
Eagerly awaiting R3 because I love the series. Some online pass isn't going to stop me from playing a game i'm waiting for. I know people are going to disagree with me, but it doesn't mean much because I have a good paying job and I like to buy my games new usually.
You guys need to calm down about the online pass. If you were a real fan of Resistance then you would buy the game new so the devs get the money they deserve. It costs money to keep servers up!
Then bill it into the MSRP. When I buy something I want it to work completely. I don't want to have to shell out more money for DLC, online passes and whatnot. Figure out what you "need to survive", then sel it to me for that. I would be much happier to pay more at retail and have all features and be able to trade a friend for a while and not have him calling me bitching because he cannot get online and a message is asking for a credit card if he wants to have weapons available. What else do you buy in life that has the seller comming back to you asking if you want more of what was supposed to be a finished product? What if movies stopped before the ending then said we want 5 more dollars if you want to see the ending? TELL ME UPFRONT AND I WILL PAY IT.
You can't afford another 5 dollars? Give me a break.
IKR! Some people just like to complain for the sake of complaining. The pass works on all the accounts on the original console and when you use the original account elsewhere.
It's the principle of the matter. It started with DLC being in the game then having to pay to unlock it. It just keeps going. Pretty soon it will be a "monthly" pass. If you are a dev and need more money to "house the servers" then just charge it upfront.
You don't have to buy it new when they are released, wait a year and most games are Down to $20-30 NEW. Heck many games released earlier this year are already < $30.
Do you even know how much the pass will cost?
This is about player count on maps , why is everyone turning this into "online pass" argument , buy it brand new n you won't pay for it , buying second hand dont help developers one bit , why should you use their servers for free when its costing them, that means people who buy a game brand new are subsidising second-hand players.
By the time the used version of a game drops low enough where it's worth it, the online is generally at an all time low, so I don't see the point in buying a used with amultiplayer component if the multiplayer is what you're looking forward to the most. (You save what $10 from gamestop, and $15 from gamefly). I buy used games as well, but it's generally a game I missed for a year of two prior, I don't go into those games expecting online to be alive and kicking, especially since most games have a sequel every 2 years.
You should pay the full price to support developers that u love to make more games. Don't tell me u only buy used games?..... It honestly couldn't hurt that much to buy just 1 brand new game.
That is a huge decrease for player count from 60 players... and they should cancel the PSN pass crap. People already have a negative attitude towards this crap and it aint the developers fault. Sonys doing.
im with you dude.
Get rid of PSn pass I will get this game. I dont support games that require online passes. Ea started it, THQ loved it, and sony getting into it. This must stop.
I totally agree with you theonlylolking. Bubbles.
i'm glad to see that my fellow ps3 gamers aint buying this online pass bullshit. i paid for the game already, you got the money, if I give it to my little cousin to play on his ps3 you want his piggy bank savings too, greedy assholes
There's less maps to play with 16 players awesome, way to Killzone 3 us Insomniac.
If you watch some of the interviews they said they wanted to MP to be more focused and less chaotic.
Gamers don't want games to be better, apparently. Btw...telekeneticmantis...Kill zone 3 may have taken features away, but it's better because of it.
Chaos adds intensity. Intensity in FPS genre is something that is disappearing in some games. It is needed!!!! Not knowing which corner to go around and expect a bullet to fly by is very thrilling experience. Its very enjoyable if you like warzones in a FPS game. 16 players is not a warzone. Its a walk in the park. Oh 3 paths on the map. I know which hallway to stay away from.
maps are resized based on the player amount set way to not read
"Oh yeah, on the 16p maps you can set the player count smaller if you want. There are also maps that accommodate fewer than 16 players." "Yes, there are 8-player (4v4) and 4-player (2v2) maps." "There are maps that are exclusive for 4-player play." "Yes, you can matchmake into the type and size of game you want." I see alot of quotes about exclusive maps made for the size of game you want, I don't see anything about resizing maps.
Multiplayer looks really fun in this game http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Less of an online community FTW! /s
We complained that 60 players was too chaotic, so they changed it. Now, you're all upset about it... Make up your minds, kids. I don't mind the pass. BUY. IT. NEW. If you can't afford it...just wait until it goes down in price. You're not getting it used on launch day anyway... Grow up.
I played it at E3. They fixed the maps to be more linear like COD and the spawn points keep people near each other so that chaotic feel is still there. There are just times when the chaos dies down so you are wondering around for a bit and it slows down, something that hardly happened in the previous two.
See...now, that was a great response. It wasn't defensive and you got your point out. Thank you. :) Thank you for the insight! I play these games for the campaign, but I do enjoy multi-player sometimes.
Damn straight. People complain no matter what these people do. 60 players is to chaotic so they listen to us and lower the count so we can get more out of it and people just complain more. I can see these developers banging their heads against a wall everyday shouting 'What the f*** do these people want. Gamers no longer exist. All we have left is crybabies who piss their diapers every time something isn't totally to their liking. Man up would you.
I don't have a problem with PSN PASS, I always support good devs by buying new games.
Well said. These guys complaining about the pass are about as greedy as they say Sony is for doing this. Gaming is an expensive hobby nowadays and you have to work to get the full enjoyment, if not then you need to change hobbies. Complaining about having to pay for an online pass after buying it USED (which doesn't help devs) is utter bull crap. Wait two more weeks to "save up your allowance" then join the fun buying it new or used with the pass. If not, your no fan of the franchise and definitely don't help devs to keep making great games! Sell things, save up now, GET A JOB, hell sell a kidney if the game means that much to you. If not, don't complain if your the one being cheap!
Thats all good and honourable, but what happens when your brother/son/housemate wants to play online with his user profile? Or maybe your buddy would like to borrow your game for an online jam session?
That why a lot of gamers are complaining as well. Sure we have cheap gamers wanting to get free online when buying used, but we also have new game buyers with multiple gamers and PS3 systems in the same household, including myself. Look at me, I have 5 PS3 systems in my household, and 3 gamers. This tactic would cost 30 more dollars per game in my household as each gamer in my household would want to play online. The only gamer Online Pass doesn't affect is the new game buyer with a single PS3 and is the only gamer in the household. It's quite funny nearly every gamer that defends this tactic doesn't ever put this issue into perspective. They must have been living under a rock and never seen a gamer living in a home with multiple gamers/systems. All in all, the Online Pass tactic is bull and I will not support it, regardless of how amazing the game could be. I am a consumer, not a b!tch toy for any multi-billion dollar company.
why some people don't(shouldn't be) allowed to live. Same crap with all this be safe crap. If you can't be free you should be dead!! People who trade in games are buying new games so the cicle is still complete! People buying used CAN still contribute to devs. If you got BLOPS used and buy all the maps you would have helped the devs!
People, you act like buying used games ACTUALLY save you money when it comes to new games like Resistance. Gamestop only has a difference of 5 dollars and what person in their right mind would sell you Resistance 3 lower than the used store price? Just support the developer and buy it new.
nice to hear just picked up the dual pack. My first time playing the series.
Can't wait to buy this new on day 1!
so i guess its official the highest it'll go is 16 players and the co-op 2 players and we also get a crummy private custom games that only friends can join or through invites *sigh* insomniac really doesnt know their fans... people loved the 8 player co-op and people like me and my bro were expecting it to go higher in R3. I also speculated that the competitive multiplayer go as high as 50 vs 50 or 40 vs 40. i really loved the massive scale battles it went even better with their game modes.. doesnt really look like R3 is going to be that hit we all thought it could be.
Are you psychotic? What game goes up to 50 vs 50 besides MAG? You really expected them to have 50 on 50 battles? Are you sure you are a Resistance fan? Or just someone trying to make up stuff?
im sure im a resistance fan; played R1 and R2 from day one till now, beat retribution as well. im sure all of youre hours combined; wont pass half of the hours i put into R1 alone. i platinum R2 like it was nothing all legitimately. insomniac always pushed the bar in each Resistance game; this one seems like its a downgrade except for the graphics. theres a reason why R1 & R2 is still played; but i cant say the same for R3. a crummy private custom games, a 2 player co-op, 16 player competitive, will only ensure people will move on quicker; especially since it doesnt have the COD numbers. check out killzone 3 custom games to get an idea of what insomniac is doing and you will see how useless it is.
What I find funniest and sort of ironic is how Sony had promissed online play would always be free. I guess that doesn't count for used games anymore.
Well, that makes sense... when you buy a new game, you're a customer of the publisher, you've given them money for the game, when you buy second hand, you've given money to a third party so the publisher have literally no obligation to you because you're not one of their customers. I don't know why this concept is so foreign to people.
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