Is The PS Move Dead In The Water?

It’s hard to believe that Sony’s ‘Wii beating’ motion controlling gameplay revolution glow stick of shiny-ness launched late last year. The controller saw the majority of its selling action within the first few months of launch, and even then the numbers weren’t that staggering, or at least as impressive as rival peripheral Kinect.

[Wick]

Makes me very glad I never bought one.

The first time I used it was at a preview event for Killzone 3. It worked pretty well for that, but honestly didn't make me want to put down the controller for it. I feel much more at home with a Dualshock 3 or an XBOX 360 controller in-hand, than I do using one of these or Kinect.

None of the Move games really interest me either. Other than Socom and Killzone, but those both fall into my previously mentioned opinion.

[Bigpappy]

Sony is woking on making PS4 have more Kinect-like motion capability, if this story http://www.digitimes.com/ne...
is to be believed. If true, this could keep M$ at bay, as it will steal away its unique feature. We have to see how it works and where M$ has gone with Kinect by then.

[gamingdroid]

I doubt it, PS Move didn't exactly keep Wii at bay.

Better hardware doesn't always translate to greater adoption. It is about creating interesting uses of it as well as providing the proper support via a good SDK, pulling business strings and providing resources (like engineers) to third parties essentially courting third parties.

Now Sony might be able to pull it off without third party support (after all you have big enough user base and third parties will come), with their first party studios, but it will take more than 1 decent game and 2-3 hardcore games that really doesn't need it like the PS Move.

MS faces the same problem with Kinect, nobody sees a need for Kinect in hardcore gaming, but they at least got the casuals and the Kinect interface is a nice touch (for now until that get's old and stale).

Just releasing something and hoping for the best might have worked in the past in a stale industry, but the competitive landscape has changed significantly thanks to Nintendo and they are trying again with the Wii U.

[zealottt]

Sony:

We steal while others innovate

[slayorofgods]

motion control is dead.

@Bigpappy
I hope not, Kinect is also a failure. It was released 5 years late as Nintendo has already played the motion control market... It's done now. The next wii is even moving on from motion controls.

[Bigpappy]

I strongly disagree. Motion control has not even evolved yet. There is so much more to do with it.

Working in tandem with the controller and more board and strategy game, while sitting, are just a couple of the soon to be explored features of the Kinect version of motion control. This is where kinect in my eyes is the future of motion control. It just gives you more options and really can be added to any games and work with any other input option. Because you have nothing in your hands, means that you can put anything in your hands. As soon as developers fully grasp that concept, and M$ improves the software to allow for all these variables, we will see many motion features added to games that are not motion based.

[badz149]

you know..."MOVE is DOOMED" article day!

[chaos-lockheart]

I wonder where this article got their ideas from, how the F will they know anything, just some guy thinking he knows everything. what a BS!!

[Tired]

I use mine quite a bit. Cant wait for resistance.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Same. I still play the fight and I've only used my ds3 once with kz3, and that's because my move controllers were charging.

[JoGam]

Me too Hawkboi. I LOVE my move controller.

[garos82]

me 2. i play alot of killzone 3 with it, occasionally ill give tumble a few plays and also the fight. sport champion is also one i head to every now and then. but im looking forward to lbp2 dlc and what the community will come up with it!

[badz149]

SOCOM feels a bit weird though because it's TPS I think but I still use it. can't wait for Resistance 3 too!

[DarkTower805]

Bought the Move a week ago and I'm loving it. The Fight is a great game I'm glad I bought, The Shoot is pretty cool too.

[Bell Boy]

after k3 with Move I don't want to go back to fps without move support. Resistance went from a maybe to a day 1 purchase based on move support for me..

[cobra4]

really? I tried kz3 with move when i had the demo and thought it was cool but it was kinda hard so I never went back to it. might have to try it again...

[badz149]

that means you haven't try it enough! once you've got use to it, which doesn't take long, you'll understand! :-)

[etebitan]

KZ3 with the sharpshooter is awesome... also im kinda hyped for medieval moves... i know it looked very childlish but coming from the guys from sports champions... it has to be good right??

[NYC_Gamer]

it just lacks original software that would push many to buy the hardware

[JoGam]

Well you can say the same for Kinect. Nothing major that makes people want to buy.

[NYC_Gamer]

^^^^i fully agree both lack good software.

[itsralf]

lol fruit ninja kinect

[gamingdroid]

They both need killer software, but Kinect is at least showing full support from MS. So much so, that the gaming community is upset about the direction.

PS Move seems all, but dead. Nothing announced (that I can remember) at E3. Everything released so far has been Wii re-hash, and no interesting use for the new found precision.

Where is Richard Marks showing his latest stuff? The only real upcoming PS Move "thing" I can remember is Sorcery which we have heard nothing of since....

@itsralf:
Fruit Ninja Kinect actually looks fun. So does Gunstringer, Mass Effect 3 and Ghost Recon. There are tons of Kinect stuff coming out this year.

[badz149]

this is what happen when you're so blindly one sided!

there are a lot of announcement regarding MOVE during E3! go look it up! but don't expect the slew of on-rail games like those for Kinect though!

[SoundGamer]

"Admittedly it is fun for a bit, and the novelty of the experience is exciting for a few hours, but after a short period you will return to your trusty dualshock and dish out the dirt in the more comfortable and traditional manner."

Actually, I never use my DualShock 3 in KZ 3's MP. I only use the Move.

No crap the Move isn't for everyone, and Sony knows that. This is one reason they make it optional in many games and still focus their attention on core games on the whole (in stark contrast with another company who seems to have forgotten their core supporters).

But this article is a bit on the verge of trolling. Especially with that opening statement.

[LOGICWINS]

"But this article is a bit on the verge of trolling. Especially with that opening statement."

So anyone providing an opinion you don't agree with is trolling?

[SoundGamer]

No but anyone providing an OPINION (as you said) as FACT is trolling.

Also, learn the meaning of the phrase "on the verge of."

There are loads of articles I do not agree with, but as long as they are objective, they keep their bias out of it, and provide facts, I'm cool with it. That's not trolling, or flamebait, that's journalism.

But the fact that this starts out with,

"..Sony’s ‘Wii beating’ motion controlling gameplay revolution glow stick of shiny-ness..."

and went on with,

"the numbers weren’t that staggering, or at least as impressive as rival peripheral Kinect."

Further said,

"The preowned section in videogames retailers are literally jam packed with Playstation Moves, and it isn’t all that surprising to be honest."

That's on the verge of trolling. The article goes on to say how useless most of the Move titles are in addition to saying that some are imitations of other games (totally disregarding the fact that just about every platform has their own version of the same type of game).

Etc., etc., etc.

I'm cool with opinions, just don't try and pass it off as fact with no source for your claim.

[Rush]

The Article starts off,

"Is The PS Move Dead In The Water?"

Then goes on to give his own insight into the situation.

Maybe am just naive but how does asking a question then giving your opinion on a matter, make you a troll trying to pass something as fact.

Am going to call typical fanboy BS on this.

[Ju]

Is it? Stating a question with precedence which actually expects a suggestive answer?

Maybe I see conspiracy everywhere, then. But, objectivity would reference sources and not try to convince me "Admittedly it is fun for a bit, and the novelty of the experience is exciting for a few hours, but after a short period you will return to your trusty dualshock".

This is an opinion presented as a general consensus which this certainly is not. I, for example, cannot go back to the DS3 in the games I play with the Move, especially KZ3 and Socom. I tried, but I just can't do it.

I also think, that the majority here have opinions based on hear say of some with bad experience - with out trying themselves. It might work for you - or it might not. But I think articles like this keep people from trying. I would suggest, try it yourself and reserve judgement until then.

What I do agree, though, is, that Sony should put more weight behind Move and either give incentives to devs to support it or force them to do so - and, please, this is always an option. Nobody forces anyone to use the Move - however, I am forced to use the DS3 in games which don't support Move. I would like this to change.

[Hicken]

"Motion gaming isn't for me. Be it Kinect, MOVE, or the Wii, I'm not fond of it. The MOVE in particular is difficult for me; as a left-hander, trying to use, for example, the sureshot for the MOVE. I sucked trying to use it on KZ3. But I know a lot of people who absolutely love using the MOVE for Killzone, SOCOM, and other such games."

That's me offering my opinion on the MOVE. It's my personal experience, along with something to temper that, and even a few reason as to why my experience isn't fun.

I could go further by, for example, disputing his assertion about the used MOVES: we have just two in stock, as opposed to about 15 Kinects and a dozen Wiis.

That's fact. No opinion in it, no bias.

The title DOES incite a level of cynicism, as you find yourself either saying, "Hell yeah, it is!" or "Hell no!"

[Bell Boy]

well said sir

the biggest strength of move imo is the very fact it is not rammed down your throat but can be implemented in core games such as kz3 as an option..

an option I might add that for many myself included is now the option of choice for kz3 and to be frank if a fps does not offer move support I reckon I will be passing on it's purchase..

I would count myself as a core gamer who loves the option of move...don't believe all the rumors of moves death on the internet I am fairly confident I am not alone in finding a new lease of life in fps with move

[Doctorofreality]

its a classier versino of the wii, no inovation sadly. they should have come up with something more groundbraking than accuracy with all that time.

[Nate-Dog]

There's just no good titles for it or barely any titles that integrate it so well that everyone wants to use the Move with it instead of a Dualshock.

[MinimeJer05]

Dead already? My god!

[Prcko]

9 million sold and you can call move dead??
ROFLLLLL

[k-dillinger]

@Prcko

rt in then they call kinect at 10 million a success but they poured almost a billion to advertise it yea like i said bought success still no respect.

[LOGICWINS]

"9 million sold and you can call move dead??"

I personally don't believe that number. Word of advice. Don't believe everything the Internet/Big corporations tell you.

Given the fact that Sony has refused to release hardware numbers to the public in the past, I can't give them the benefit of the doubt.

http://n4g.com/news/718568/...

[plmkoh]

The article you linked to is over 3 months old.

Sales numbers change very quickly.

[newleaf]

First off, it is 8.8 million shipped not sold. Secondly that number also includes navigators.

[Just_The_Truth]

lol no it doesn't, try not to hate so hard.

[Thecraft1989]

Again the misconception of shipped and sold.

Shipped=sold believe it or not shops buy things then sell them to you. This number you see when Sony ms or nintendo release hardware sales.

THEY DON'T MONITOR WHERE IT ENDS UP THEY ONLY CARE IF THERE GETTING THERE MONEY FROM THE RETAILERS. I SHOUT THIS BECAUSE FAN BOYS DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS AND WILL CONTINUE TO GO ABOUT 'OH SONY THEY SHOW SALES NOT SHIPPED'' NOT UNDERSTANDING THERE BOTH SAME THING.

[Bell Boy]

what you sold them all personally did you, or did you stand at your gamestop door counting purchases

[DiRtY]

You barely see 3rd party developers support it big time and that is always a very bad sign.

Sony isn't even pushing it in a big way. Making it an option for some IPs is not doing it.

The motion-war is over. Sony lost it.

[DJMarty]

@DiRtY - Not true, ther are multi platform 3rd party games that support MOVE, yet don't support Kinect.

That says alot, Kinect lacks support not MOVE.

[Rainstorm81]

I agree the main 3rd party game coming that offers move support that has my interest in BioShock Infinite.

If implemented well move controls could be great.

[maniacmayhem]

DJ marty you have got to be kidding even the most blinded, loyal, fan of sony would tell you MS is focusing too much on Kinect and almost every new piece of hardware is for the Kinect.

I say the Kinect gets way too much support.

[ainsz]

The Wii had always won it and now they are moving on to new stuff as it was dying, with the Wii U.

Microsoft & Sony came into motion control way too late. Only trouble with Sony is that they just copied Wii and brought nothing new to the table. How was that supposed to capture the casual gamers attention? My mum has a Wii and will use it gladly because all she has to do is move a remote around (the sexual innuendo is... Sick). But if I handed her my Dualshock (it's getting worse) she wouldn't even try. Ignorance is bliss for casual gamers.

Microsoft on the other hand, got the right idea and brought something totally new and in the eyes of the casual gamer, perfect! Yes you could say they copied Eye Toy, but I doubt that was Microsofts intention. More like release something that would 1-up the Wii by getting rid of the remote all together.

[Soldierone]

You totally killed your entire post at the end. "yes you can say it copied Eye, but I doubt it was the intention...." So Sony makes a controller with 3D support (as in moving any way possible to alter the game), and an Eye Toy and its copying Wii....microsoft makes an HD new generation of Eye Toy and its entirely original and out of this world....

No Sony tried the controller less approach last generation with PS2 and early this generation. They realized putting in a controller and combining it with the camera was the best option. Microsoft can't do that because Sony holds rights to the idea.

Star Wars is the best example. It feels better actually holding a lightsaber to play the game, then randomly making hand gestures that don't even make sense. Ghost Recon-"open hand, reload gun. point hand in air, shoot gun" what? why?

[Just_The_Truth]

kinect has sold well but i question it's place in gaming besides DC there not one game imo that's actually Better with Kinect.

[baodeus]

@just the truth

then u haven't play child of eden or kinect sport. Again, kinect getting a lot of support for core game as an OPTION, like the move for example.

Where do people keep getting the idea that Kinect is mandatory for the upcomming core games?

MOVE,Wii, kinect are optional, especially for core games. They only add some different perspectives to gaming. Some may like it and some don't, but they are always options.

And they can still improve, who knows if they can become the mainstream of interactive video gaming later on. Imagine u can play RTS by assigning different function to each of your fingers like building 5 settlements at once, while the other hand for offensive and routing troops. It seem quite possible with kinect. Or u can really swing your dam wand around like a magician "looking at socerer game" which is pretty cool/neat idea too.

@soundgamer

I fully agree with u. Great post.

[lazertroy]

Marketing

[MrSpace]

I find it funny that it's done this well with "No Advertising" but Microsoft pourced there money into Ads and gained...what a Million more sales.

For Sony not advertising Move like Microsoft did with Kinect it's done pretty good I reckon.

[newleaf]

Over a million more shipments in less time and 3 times the cost. One other thing, Sony's numbers include Navigators so we'll never know just how many Moves are out there

[Rynx]

"Sony's numbers include Navigators"

Source this man, seriously, it's saddening to see such a statement without any proof. Even worse for you to believe that anyone here would take YOUR word for it.

"Over a million more shipments in less time and 3 times the cost"

Half a BILLION in advertising, enough said.

Wait, did I just derail your entire argument?

[BeastlyRig]

Love Console Gimmicks!

[thebudgetgamer]

gimmicks are awesome.

http://www.healthbuys.com/T...

http://www.frys.com/product...

http://www.play-asia.com/pa...

[BitbyDeath]

Move currently has 53 existing games and Kinect has only 26.

Meaning Sony has got over twice the amount of motion control games than Microsoft.

Funny how these things always get turned around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[ElementX]

I haven't used my Move in months!

[WooHooAlex]

It has a solid install base it just needs games to push it.

I think the update for LittleBigPlanet 2 and Sorcery could help.

[Soldierone]

Anyone calling Move "dead" didn't attend or pay attention to E3. Got my hands on some of the upcoming games for Move and I can't wait to buy the full version. The sorcery game was just awesome.

Move is just like Kinect, its a way to draw in the casual audience. It will be around for as long as those audiences are around. Any hardcore gamer is going to return to a dualshock, but just because you don't play it every hour you are on the PS3 means its dead? didn't know that.

[Raven_Nomad]

There are no games for it. Yes I know you can play Killzone and Socom with it, but where are the titles specifically designed for the device? Like Sorcery or something worthwhile?

I won one and it works well, but I haven't used it but a few times because there just aren't any interesting games for it.

[Silly gameAr]

You're just a hard person to believe. The way you troll PS3 articles, it just feels like a trap to believe anything you say about anything PS3 related.

Likewise a few people that's already commented above you.

[nycredude]

there are twice the amount of games for the mvoe than for kinect and they aren't all kiddy games or on rails. So what is your useless point again? I be tyou never even played tumble or hustle kings.

[TheKayle]

i got it but yeah is hald dead....i hope sorcery will be something special

[HOSe]

bioshock infinite, arguably the most impressive game shown at e3, will be supporting the move.

give me the dualshock 3 all day though.

[Allowen]

I liked the Move controller but so far I have only used it (and liked a lot) on Killzone 3 and Sports Champions.
The motion sensoring works marvelous in a FPS such KZ3 that I can't go back to the DS3.

Can't wait for Resistance 3 and Bioshock infinite to play then using MOVE.

But on the other hand, to play a 3rd person shooter as Socom 4 with Move was not fun gameplay to me. For that game I preffer the traditional DS3.

[nycredude]

Play tumble, hustle kings with the move and be amazed.

[BitbyDeath]

Tumble is even more amazing when played in 3D.

[MrDead]

I remember when this site use to have news articles and informative info on games, now it just seems to post ramblings from idiots that can come up with flame bait titles so children can argue with each other.

[Rainstorm81]

Well said my zombie brother.....

[swinesucker]

Besides a little game called sports champions which redefined the games it included (table tennis and frisbee are facking amazing srsly GTFO) I find Heavy Rain to be completely awesome as long as I am using move with french voices. I freakin' love that game. Of course you have KZ3 and whatever else now if you have the sharpshooter. It has completely defined its own space. I will not argue that the software is lacking but it is definitely there if you want it. What do people expect? Sure, they need more games but the move hasn't been out THAT long. I fully expect it to be compatible with the PS4 as well. It certainly better be.

[GoldPS3]

Move is the best motion controller out now but I prefer the good old DS3. I'm still not into motion gaming. When I play my games I want to relax. Motion gaming is not relaxing. I'm a old school gamer so I"ll leave the motion gaming to you young gamers.

[NyGiants7]

It just...looks...so... ridiculous

[Knightofelemia]

I am debating about buying one it has some decent games for it like Killzone 3 would be fun to play on it. Hopefully Resistance 3 uses the Move aswell and since the old lady stopped using her Wii and picked up the PS3 controller she wants the move for some of the sports games. The Kinnect is a great idea but all there is for games is kiddy games. I would buy a Kinnect aswell if Microsoft would have dropped a patch on launch day for the Kinnect so I could try Halo 3 on it. Only time will tell how the Move will do in sales.

[Ninjamonkey82]

Why these Articles keep getting passed ?

[maniacmayhem]

Move came on to the scene too late. The Wii had people because when it first came out it looked all whacky and strange. Not to mention the commercials had everyone convinced of the super fun the whole family could have while playing in their posh suburban homes or with their multi bi-racial friends in the trendy high rise lofts.

But over time it faded. Sony took too long to release, many gamers are not interested and the support shows.

[Hicken]

You like to troll, don't you?

I'm not going to do your work for you, but I'll just repeat what others have said: more games for the Move than the Kinect, close to 9 million shipped.

[maniacmayhem]

*Yawn...*

Why did you bring up Kinect? I wasn't talking about...Oooooh, you thought by saying something about kinect you would hurt my feelings. Well try harder, i give two rats a&* about kinect.

Lord forbid someone talk about your precious Move/ps3. Automatic troll labels will be given out. Well I'm not going to do any work for you i'll just repeat what others have said: Not enough support has been given to Move.

[Hicken]

Actually, since it's about motion controls, I brought up Kinect.

Oh, and lest your fanboy goggles blind you, I ALSO brought up the Wii.

Fact: More support has been given to the Move (and, obviously, to the Wii) than to the Kinect.

Fact: The games that make up the Move's repertoire are more varied than those of Kinect, having large numbers of both mandatory AND optional games.

Fact: Singling out my mention of Kinect actually singles YOU out as a fanboy, not the other way around.

[blacktiger]

Motion control is not dead.
And if PS Move is dead, trust me, Kinect is far dead since not much software support.

PS Move, with little patch it's feels like keyboard and mouse, well little bit.

Because I love Mouse and Keyboard, now that's motion control :p

[manslaught3r]

I would really like to see all these 3rd party shooters come with move support. At least as an option for those of us that use it and know the benefits and the accuracy it brings to the table. I agree with a lot of you on here and I really can hardly play an shooter with the ds3 any more. Hopefully we get support for BF3 and ghost recon future along with the rest. Sony really needs to give the publishers some incentive to support the move, I know they'll never do it but one can hope. I've read the articles about the ps4 having kinect tech built in,which wouldn't suppress me. It would probably be some form of improved ps eye that also functions with the move. I've also caught wind of m$ developing a similar device to the move because some games do require buttons and a way to move your character.

[TheLastGuardian]

"Most of the players on Killzone 3 are core gamers and see no advantage or reason to play on it with a motion controller.

Admittedly it is fun for a bit, and the novelty of the experience is exciting for a few hours, but after a short period you will return to your trusty dualshock and dish out the dirt in the more comfortable and traditional manner."

I played the campaign twice with Move and now I only play KZ3 MP with the PS Move and navigation controllers in hand.

I'm looking forward to Move support in Bioshock Infinite, Sorcery, Medival Moves, inFAMOUS 2, LittleBigPlanet 2, Resistance 3 and Saints Row: The Third. Did I miss any core Move titles?

[manslaught3r]

Just one question, are you going with the first part of the post or the second

[WitWolfy]

The thing that kinda annoyed me about the move was, that they re released most of the games to be move compatible like RE 5, Heavy Rain, MAG..... Not bringing anything new to the table. But it would've been AWESOME if Flower would support move though.

Would've totally loved to play that game using the move

[Venjense]

KZ3 with Move is amazing. Move is superior for FPS games but has a high learning curve. It's so accurate and moving around and turning is just as fast.

[fuzion17c]

Ape Escape Move looks interesting. Might try that out.