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Submitted by JonahFalcon 1611d ago | rumor

Gies: Xbox 720 launches 2012 with Halo 4 launch title

When questioned by a reader why Arthur Gies believes that Halo 4 would be announced for Microsoft’s next console rather than the Xbox 360, Gies responded:

”Because that would be the most beautiful, system launching stroke they could possibly make next Christmas, is to attach Halo to it. And also, that would completely separate talk of Halo and how much it sells versus Call of Duty and any sort of discussion.”

Even though Halo 4 was tagged an Xbox 360 game officially, Gies added that they ”heard enough at E3 to not be so sure about that.” He insisted that it was becoming “totally obvious” that they would be releasing a new system in November 2012. (Dev, Halo 4, Industry, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

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_EvilMonkey_  +   1611d ago
it would be make sense to release Halo 4 with the next-gen Xbox.
JonahFalcon  +   1611d ago
Seemed to work for the Xbox 1. :p
MintBerryCrunch  +   1610d ago
then why would mattrick say they are using the reach engine for this "trilogy"?

calling it a trilogy would work if it came out with a new console
blumatt  +   1611d ago
That's what I was thinking too. Halo 4 would be the perfect launch title for a new Xbox. Although, even though I'll likely be picking up an Xbox 720, I won't be getting Halo. It's just not my cup of tea.

Since the 360 has a limited supply of exclusives, a new Halo trilogy would be the new Xbox's "killer app" so to speak.

I will say this though: If the Xbox 720 is anymore than $400, I'm not getting it day one. The same goes for the PS4. I hope the PS4 comes out either in 2012 or 2013 if the Xbox 720 does, so that Sony won't be far behind the Xbox. Market share will be critical in this next generation of consoles. Price will be VERY important for both next gen consoles' success.
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NoobJobz  +   1611d ago
I think I would go $499 if there are enough good features. Any more than that is getting ridiculous.
DeadlyFire  +   1611d ago
I believe they like 2-3 SKU at launch so they might be aiming to put a low end feature set and high end one as typical. I am hoping High end doesn't range to high like last time. Fault is Blu-Ray's but I see why they did it and its left its mark in doing so.
slampunk  +   1611d ago
I think there's a fair bit of truth behind this rumour.......

No other big announcements at E3 except for kinect stuff....

Makes perfect sense......I'd love a new halo on a new XBOX....
NegativeCreep427  +   1611d ago
The Xbox brand is nothing without "Halo". If you love and purchase an Xbox brand product, you must like Halo. If you don't, then what the hell is driving you away from the Playstation brand??? Gears of War is eventually going to end up on Playstation (disagree all you want. Business is Business!)
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kaveti6616  +   1611d ago
You sounded a little scared there.

You made a claim that if you purchase and love the xbox brand, you must like Halo.

Then you said, "If you don't, then what the hell is driving you away from the Playstation Brand???"

People buy an Xbox 360 because they want to play video games with their friends. They are not comparing exclusives.

Most of the titles available on PS3 are also available on the 360. The exclusive games that are available on the PS3 are not as well-known as Call of Duty or Battlefield or Fallout.

All Microsoft had to do was to get the general public to associate video games with Xbox rather than Playstation. Microsoft didn't have to buy a bunch of studios to make games exclusively for their console.

They just made their console easy to develop for and partnered with publishers to advertise their games.
Zynga  +   1611d ago
And infamous is eventually going to end up on Xbox brand.
cereal_killa  +   1611d ago
"And infamous is eventually going to end up on Xbox brand."

WRONG!!!! The Infamous IP is owned by Sony unlike Gears it's IP is owned by EPIC not M$...I'm not saying NegativeCreep427 is right but Epic can put it on any system they want.
ASSASSYN 36o  +   1611d ago
Hey turbo, is mass effect one on the ps3? Nope! Know why? I do. It is published miicrosoft. 2 and 3 are not. All gears of war titles are published by Microsoft. Your right, business is business.
gaden_malak  +   1604d ago
Know what else was published by Microsoft...Ninja Gaiden 2.
Pixel_Pusher  +   1611d ago
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Inside_out  +   1611d ago
Halo 4 holiday 2012...on NEW Xbox...
I said the same thing a long time ago but the haters were "no, can't be "

When they put Gears 3 in place of Halo 4 this year the writing was on the wall.

Why would M$ launch a new Halo trilogy next year on 360...O_o...Halo 4 trailer had no 360 insignia at the end as is normally the case when trailers are shown. Kinect was meant to extend this gen, NOT replace it. Rumor is that Windows 8 will make an appearance next year as well. What about the 8.5 billion M$ spent on skype and not a sound about it at E3..the plot thickens.

Interestingly, Crytek is the company that seems ( rumors ) to have the inside track for middle-ware. Since Unreal 3 was a catalyst on how M$ slapped Sony and their billion dollar Cell super computer you would think that they would be front and center...maybe they are...Hmmmmm...They did say they are DX11 ready...SOooooo...

With the Wii U launching next year, M$ had to react. The 360 S was announced and launched the same year. M$ has learned a lot from the RROD and that is why they have spent a lot on R&D for the new system and have few interesting patents to show for it. Sony must be in panic mode over there...they have BILLIONS in loses still on the books and need another couple years of growth to get them off...I wonder if they will launch a console as well???
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JonahFalcon  +   1611d ago
Yeah, it sort of killed them to have to release Halo 3 not only on a new system, but in 2007 and not Nov. 2005.
MrSpace  +   1611d ago
Why is it in your comments you always put Microsoft in a possitive light, over exaggerating the optimistic attitude and then turn to bash Sony with a negative comment or a one that makes them look small "Sony must be in panic mode over there..." yeah I doubt it.

Honestly don't be a blind fanboy, unless your a guy who has Kinect and plays on all the crappy casual shovelware they produce then Microsoft don't give a crap about you as a core gamer.

Sony aren't worrying, if Microsoft can learn from their RROD "mistake" then I'm sure Sony have learnt there's with the pricing....oh wait I think the price of the PSV prooves that.
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blumatt  +   1611d ago
"Sony must be in panic mode over there...they have BILLIONS in loses still on the books and need another couple years of growth to get them off...I wonder if they will launch a console as well???"

You do realize that Sony has bought back the factory that makes the Cell chips? All Sony has to do for their next console is put in a 32 SPU Cell chip and 4 to 8GB of RAM, a faster Bluray Drive, add some new features, put in a standard party system and cross game chat, and whatever else they want to do, and there they'll have a PlayStation 4. Bluray was the main reason why the PS3 cost so much. BR Drives have come down in price significantly since 2006. I'd bet Sony could build a console as I've described and sell it VERY EASILY for $400 and still probably make a profit.

You never know, man, it could be the opposite this next generation. MS could have the expensive one and Sony could have the cheap one. We just never know. We've seen some crazy stuff this generation and it's bound to get more interesting this next generation.
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khan_saab  +   1611d ago
I agree with almost all of what you said. I agree with the whole thing you mentioned in the second paragraph, but what you said about Microsoft making the expensive console i have to disagree.

I feel that they won't do that because they do not have many internal studios dedicated to their hardware and because of that they are going to want to make it cheap and easy for publishers and developers to work with.

what the head of THQ said sums it up perfectly. developers and publishers are not ready for new gen technology because of the costs to make them and it is these publishers that MS need as they can't rely much on internal studios, Sony has a lot of internal studios and if they would be focused on the technology Sony brings for them and having many teams dedicated to one console brings innovation to this industry.

If all gamers were PC gamers we won't see much innovation as everyone can simply up grade their PC if the specs require so....[Off topic now, will post rest of thoughts on a more appropriate article:-)]
KMCROC  +   1611d ago
So did Sony buy IBM & Toshiba or do these two companies still hold the patents to the microprocessor tech , cause buying the factory does not make you sole patent owner .
scissor_runner  +   1603d ago
Buying the factory just means that chip will get cheaper. The process of fabing a new chip is sort of like making a new factor. Thus the factory owner just can't add more crap to a chip they have to do r&d all over again and write new compilers and tools for it. CPUs are not sound chips way more complicated. Take amd for example they let others cabinets their chips but they do the design.

I'd love to see Sony make their own CPU with no help just to see what they can really do or not.
XRider  +   1611d ago
What does any of this have to do with Sony or Nintendo?
jack who  +   1611d ago
not happenin
JonahFalcon  +   1611d ago
likedamaster  +   1611d ago
Bastard knows something!
JonahFalcon  +   1611d ago
Question is: if MS does indeed announce the 720 for Xmas 2012, does this force Sony’s hand with a new console, or do they bide their time and release an even more powerful rig 1 or even 2 years later?
BeastlyRig  +   1611d ago
YES!! new hardware ftw!!
Mista T  +   1611d ago
Launch would be HUGE
frankymv  +   1611d ago
Its pretty much accepted industry wide that the xbox 720 will launch next year.
SweatyFlorida  +   1611d ago
Not happening, and if I remember correctly, they made 2 Halo's on xbox, so they'll probably do the same with 360 (only 1 Halo from main franchise/story was on 360) They'll probably leave a BIG cliff hanger in Halo 4, and release the next Halo(5) on the nextbox to pump up sales. I think both Sony and M$ waited to see what the WiiU was about, and found out it's nothing TOO special for a next gen, definitely not sells threatening.

So I'm guessing both Sony/M$ are gonna prolong the lives of their current systems as long as they can and make their next gens as best as possible to compete with each other. 2013 seems like a better date for next gen consoles.
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GodKing1337  +   1611d ago
interesting thoughts and I like the "M$"thing lol... but I don't really agree sry "/
SweatyFlorida  +   1611d ago
You saw what I did there? :D lol but yah I can tell by my disagrees, but its my opinion and you have your opinion, only time will tell who's was right ;P I stand as Halo 4 on 360, not 720. (or whatever the heck its gonna be called)
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KILLERAPP  +   1611d ago
So MS lied at E3 when they said that Halo 4 was coming to 360???
jbiz330  +   1611d ago
right? this is almost too stupid to even consider.. I will be upping this silly ass article next year whilst playing Halo4 on my 360.
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ATiElite  +   1611d ago
Wow Geis is listening to me
I said this like 4 months ago that M$ was gonna release Halo 4 on the 360 and X720.

The X720 will be easy to program for cause it's just gonna be a 360 but with better specs.

4 core CPU, 1.5 GB system Ram, DX10 GPU.
Kinect compatible
will play all 360 games
DiRtY  +   1611d ago
A Halo as a launch title would be huge.

And this might be a reason why MS just opened three Nee studios.
Jocosta  +   1611d ago
They opened 3 new studios?
DiRtY  +   1611d ago
Yes they did.

One in Vancouver, one in London and one in Seattle I think.

That's what they are called.
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ASSASSYN 36o  +   1611d ago
I am still trying figure out how people believe it is not possible for the next Xbox console to come out next year while the 360 chugs along selling. It boggles my mind how that is ok for the ps2 and ps3 but not for the 360 and 72o. They both can co exists. Either way Microsoft wins. I am keeping my halo reach Xbox when I upgrade. And just because Sony claimed a very long console cycle which a ton of people forgot they did years ago) it does not mean Microsoft has has too follow suit.
kopicha  +   1611d ago
Not exactly true. Although it may make sense for Halo 4 to be in the new xbox with a fresh start of a new trilogy. Does not mean it will happen that way. From what is happening since E3 it just seems like M$ is trying to repeat their history. In what sense? Well remember nothing about the next xbox is being mention at all during the last E3. All focus are still being on the existing xbox360 (put kinect stuffs aside since they still rely on the current xbox360). in fact what it looks like is Halo 4 will be the final blow from M% this generation. It will release in Holiday 2012 then follow by aprox. 6 months later E3 2013 will be the time M$ to officially unveil their next xbox follow by a release of the console in Holiday 2013 or early 2014.

what makes this a higher possibility? The first Halo has been a trilogy. Halo 1 was on the first xbox. the 2nd and 3rd chapter ends up in xbox360. The same cycle is probably going to happen again. Also with M$ just getting started with their Kinect (they have improve the tech quite a bit since launch) it will remain their current focus until the above said time.

this is just my prediction. anything can be possible. but i believe M$ wont be stupid enough to rush thing then get a major hit back by their competitor. Now everyone are just playing stealth game. We will need to see how well Wii U turns out to be. That can be a game changer to make M$ and Sony to come out with something earlier. But then again newer tech does not necessary mean clear winner. game library makes a hell of difference too.
ASSASSYN 36o  +   1611d ago
Microsoft isn't rushing anything if they release the next Xbox, next year. Why do people believe the thing has been in development for 5 minutes. I am 100% positive the month after the 360 launched, the next Xbox was on the drawing board. Bill gates admitted the 360 was being designed weeks after the first Xbox dropped. I am old enough to remember numerous console launches. None of them were designed and launched without at least 3 years of development before you heard about them. Microsoft is no different.

And when is the last time you heard ms or Sony compare themselves to eachother publicly. No one seems to have notice at e3 they didn't. Both console makers are so diametrically opposed in everything they do today versus a few years ago. It is no longer advantageous for them to even mention eachother and stir the fanboys who advertise and whine as if they have a financial stake in the status of the industry. Yeah they may be competing against eachother still but nothing like it was before. It is so obvious resources and time has been spent focusing on something else.

And the wi u launches 2012. The next Xbox launches likely in 2012. The Xbox 360 launched before both wii and ps3 by a full year. So who is early again? It is suddenly ok for wii u to get a "early launch" but not microsoft's Next console... the oldest current gen console on the market is the 360!
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tigertron  +   1611d ago
I agree with Kopicha, considering the 360 bit at the end of the trailer, and the website stating the platform will be the 360, I'd say it was unlikely. Besides, the previous trilogy wasn't all on one console. Halo 1 and 2 were on the original Xbox, whereas 3, ODST, Halo wars and Reach were on the 360.

Yes, it makes commercial sense to make Halo 4 a launch title, but 2011/2012 seems to be the 360's last year, I think it will be its final encore.
Capital Dream  +   1610d ago
What you guys don't remember is that Xbox 360 was officially unveiled on MTV on May 12, 2005, then was release on Tuesday, November 22 2005. So why can't history repeat its self?
JeffGUNZ  +   1610d ago
That's how it will be this time as well. It will be announced at E3 next year with a holiday release the same year. Microsoft really knows how to advertise their products. They don't hype something up and release it years later. They will reveal this at the next E3 and in under 6 months, it will be in people's hands. They announce something, people get hyped/pumped and they give a release date in the near future so that hype grows and stays strong.

If you wait too long, it the hype and desire reduces.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   1610d ago
Hmm he sounds so sure of himself. Did we miss something?
Droid Control  +   1604d ago
It doesn't make sense to start a new Halo trilogy on the ageing 360.

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