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Submitted by ksense 1173d ago | news

Iwata explains why hardcore gamers will accept Wii U

Nintendo’s last console was more popular with the average consumer than it was with Nintendo’s hardcore faithful, and now Nintendo President Satoru Iwata is eager to explain why Wii U will rectify that.

Iwata’s responses came during a stockholders meeting when he was asked by an investor whether or not he believed the hardcore would accept the new console. Iwata was willing to concede some of the problems that kept Wii from catching on with the hardcore, and explained why that wouldn’t happen with Wii U. (Wii U)

Pikajew  +   1173d ago
hardcore gamers today means. people who like violent and HD games

People complain the Wii doesn't have 3rd party support but there are 3 other systems you can get for that
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Reibooi  +   1173d ago
No Hardcore gamer means people who want more then crap shovel ware which is 90% of what the Wii had the other 10% was 9% Nintendo games and 1% good 3rd party games.

The problem with the Wii was it's gimmick. It could not really play games in a more traditional way and it's lack of power and mass amounts of shovel ware made devs just stop trying as they would either have to dumb their game down to get it on the console or have it not sell if they made it with the Wii in mind(as was the case with games like Muramasa, Madworld and No More Hero's)

I don't think the Wii U is gonna be any better to tell you the truth. When most people walk away from a press conference thinking "Wtf did we just see" that isn't a good thing. Not to mention using the name Wii. If they are trying to appeal to Hardcore with this new console they need to distance themselves from the Wii name as much as possible or at least keep them both going with two very distinct groups of consumers in mind.
rexbolt  +   1172d ago
no hard core means u only play fps and have the same games at 360
Morbius420  +   1172d ago
there are many hardcore rpg players too.
Rainstorm81  +   1173d ago
So if your a nintendo fan and want core experiences you must buy a PS3/360/PC? Then Why buy a wii? everyone cant get multiple systems.

As a consumer, the product you buy should fit your needs.

And violent and HD doesnt equal core.....core games didnt start this gen with HD....

Edit

IMO a core gamer wants depth from thier games, a challenge yet fun something more than just a distraction. Casual gamers are looking for something that they CAN pick up and be able to play. For instance alot of casual gmers would be frustrated by a game like RDR or skyrim

Good thing is sometimes casual gamers become core gamers.....all is good for gaming but i prefer core experiences.
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StbI990  +   1172d ago
When nintendo pull a god of war, or uncharted, or halo, or gear of war into their library, their console won't be leaving the kiddie field with the like of mario and kirby...

Do hardcore people wanna 4 consoles to suffix their needs? PC, ps3/4, xbox 360/1080...Wii u? i really don't think so, me nintendo and wouldnt approach a field you have been failing so much to get into lately.

But hey, if google is coming with another social network, why cant nintendo try for the third time get into the hardcore people's heart lol, to fail again.

@Maniacmayhem, no u dont see more potential than snes and u just sound like another nintendo fan in denial, nintendo aint good for hardcore, each of their generation shows u that, each of their consoles, show u that, they own exclusive show u that, they should stick to what function the most for them just like apple and their overpriced phones.
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dedicatedtogamers  +   1173d ago
This sounds vaguely like microsoft saying "The Core WILL love Kinect! We promise!"

Iwata, what's there to like about the Wii U? It's an overpriced tablet PC that will be launching with 6-month-old 3rd party multiplats. Heck, I'll buy the Vita and the 3DS long before I give a care about the Wii U.
maniacmayhem  +   1173d ago
You dont know any of that. We should wait and see what is coming out for it. We have three to four companies that have announced exclusives for the WiiU. We should hold our judgment until then.
Reibooi  +   1173d ago
The problem is said exclusives will most likley try to take advantage of every weird gimmick the Wii U has and thus the same problem the Wii created will be born anew and core gamers will basically just look the other way and ignore it.

They needed to bring a console to the game that was pure core and not weird gimmicks. They can have the Wii running at the same time for that if they wanted to appeal to both markets.
maniacmayhem  +   1173d ago
I really dont thin that controller is as much a gimmick as the wii mote was. At least this controller has the standard buttons, triggers and analog sticks we find for 360/ps3. Plus an added feature of a touch screen.

If anything i can see way more potential with this machine than ive seen with any nintendo console since the snes days.
DrFUD  +   1173d ago
I'm hardcore and can't wait.
It's fresh blood.
I know it's more powerful than either of the 2 others out now.
That's enough for me.
Well, that, and they aren't using motion controls.
beast242tru  +   1173d ago
well actually they are using motion controlls the same ones that came with ur wii so far all reports saying onli one tablet controller per console and you dnt know yet how powerful it is if you do please show me where you got the news from
TenkoTAiLS  +   1173d ago
6 years on from when the PS3 and Xbox 360 came out and you think it wont be more powerful? Your either kidding yourself or under the misguided reasoning that just because one of their previous consoles was under par to the current gen that all follow up ones will be. Either way it's rather premature to be giving anything other than assumptions, and an assumption that it's more powerful has more rational reasoning at the moment than Nintendo releasing another last gen console.

Fact is, no one knows squat beyond the controller, but for studios that shunned and were very vocal about the Wii being a rubbish machine like Epic, Id, Valve and the Crytec guys etc being all of a sudden being interested, I figure something's up, and I can't wait to find out what.
Ness-Psi  +   1173d ago
well first off they need to give more info about the actual console then gamers will decide if they want to buy it up against the PS3/360.
jacksonmichael  +   1173d ago
I'm not particularly hardcore, but... I have a beard... and I want it.
JsonHenry  +   1173d ago
Same here. Except I am rocking a soul patch.
Ness-Psi  +   1172d ago
just shaved mine off it was getting itchy!
BeastlyRig  +   1173d ago
If games are good I will buy it! Take me back to the N64 days please!!

I want Killer Instinct: Gold 2!
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falout  +   1173d ago
I would love a killer instinct I think ms owns it though but hey if nin can work around that and put it out, since ms doesnt want to cause they use rare to do what wii does, then I'm all for it.

On topic

I know it's crazy but I'm just happy they are getting into the hd gen. Nin has a great first party I know they can deliver the games I just couldnt get into the wii considering how good ps3 and 360 games looked. I'm no graphics whore by any means, if I was I would own a gaming pc, but c'mon wii graphics is a big turn off For me anyway, loved galaxy 2 though sadly that's the only game I ever bought.
wh0am1  +   1173d ago
I have yet to be sold on the Wii to this day
sigh...disappointed to say the least
PS3Freak  +   1173d ago
He listed the different controls, as well as the lack of HD.

He forgot the most important fact: most of the games for Wii were not targeted at this "core" audience.
zero_gamer  +   1173d ago
Remember PS2? That was last gen's shovelware console of choice. Shovelware caters to the winning console, shown by history.
PS3Freak  +   1173d ago
This is true.

While there was a lot of shovelware on PS2, it had a plethora of quality first party/ third party games to back it up.
Seferoth75  +   1172d ago
So does Wii dude. IN fact it has the highest rated exclusive this gen in SMG..
Funny for all tgheir superior power that PS3 and 360 cant beat Wii when it coems to what really matters, gameplay.
PS3Freak  +   1172d ago
It may have the highest rated game this gen, but it doesn't have much else.

Reviews mean nothing, and I personally do not like the galaxy games AT ALL.

I also strongly disagree with your gameplay comment. Most Wii games are very shallow in terms of gameplay. They rely to much on motion controls.

In reality though, it is all personal opinion, I own a Wii, but only own 3 games for it. Whereas, I own a Ps3, and have 50+ games for it.
AWBrawler  +   1172d ago
I see it like this. The Wii was like a modern day NES. lots of casual games, but some good games in the mix too. Wii U will be the modern day SNES. Good balance of casual and Hardcore.
They even kept Wii in the name like they kept NES in the name of the Super NES.
That is a good sign. I started gaming back in 88 so I remember those NES and SNES days well. I'm getting mad SNES vibes from Wii U.
zero_gamer  +   1173d ago
I am sold on this system. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Pikmin, Star Fox, Animal Crossing, and more known Nintendo IPs. Nintendo is damn good at making quality games.
ElementX  +   1173d ago
I'm a "core" gamer and I'll be buying Wii U :)
Rainstorm81  +   1173d ago
Im a core gamer and im waiting for Nintendo to give me reason to buy it.....other than a touch screen controller of course
mamotte  +   1173d ago
Like the "innovative" power you can already have on a pc?
coryok  +   1173d ago
so let me get this straight: their reasons that core gamers will like wiiu (and didnt like wii) is because it has a controller, and that controller isnt very heavy...

ohhh im sorry, thats wrong. the right answer is games - youre going to need more games that appeal to the gamers that buy core games to get core gamers on your system.
Nac  +   1173d ago
Accept and embrace are two different things altogether.
TBONEJF  +   1173d ago
I'm a hard core gamer. and already accept the Wii. thing only thing Nintendo didn't bring is more & more games. But I'm still waiting for my Zelda Sky Sword and Zelda Collection to come out. And will only buy the new Wii U CAUSE NOW IT'S IN HD and the sweet touch screen controller pad. They didn't came out with a HD console cause if you remember back then CEO Reggie Fils-Aime says theirs not enough HDTV's in the living room to make a HD WII system.
bigjclassic  +   1172d ago
It's simple
If Wii U ends up with "superior" versions of multiplats then yes everyone will most likely jump. Why play an inferior console version of Madden, CoD or BF3?
SugarSoSweet  +   1172d ago
I was hoping the Nintendo Wii-U would be the rebirth of the N64 that console had so many great titles

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