Peter Molyneux “ashamed” of Fable III Metacritic score

Peter Molyneux admits that he feels “pretty ashamed” of Fable III’s Metacritic score and blames himself for it – but agrees with reviews that said the “quality just wasn’t good enough.”

[Max_Dissatisfaction]

good, you should be. Then you go out and make that abomination that is Fable The Journey...tsk tsk tsk

[newn4gguy]

I'm sorry, but I thought The Journey looked cool. I'm saying this as someone who only really enjoyed the first Fable and doesn't buy into the Kinect hype. Fable: The Lost Journey looks freakin' sweet.

[user9841288]

negative

[I_find_it_funny]

each Fable sucks more, face it Peter

[jdfoster00]

couldn't disagree with you more

[FlashXIII]

To me it looked like a watered down facepalm of a clone of that ps move game Sorcery or whatever it's called.

[RedDead]

Nah, I really disagree, it's an on rails shooter basically. Just shoot what your told to. What happened to the good old days Fable?

[mendicant]

@Reddeaddestoyer,

Fable: Journey is NOT an on rails shooter.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011...

[Heartnet]

@mendicant..

It might aswell be..

"The World is as Open as a Road is".. Your on a single path in whcih u cannot stray.. really really Un fable Like and means your paying for like a 4 hour Campaign with no multy player..

[Redempteur]

@mendicant

it is on rails ..

molyneux is just freaking out because everyone realize that it's not gonna be a fable game.

Molyneux lies on his présentations ..just like he lied about MILO , and just like he talks too much and promises the moon and beyond in your living room.

[evrfighter]

His problem is he tried to ride fable like kojima rides metal gear.

He has a better backlog of ips yet made a huge mistake. I agree he should be ashamed

[zerocrossing]

I never played any Fable games out lack of interest really, So I shouldn't comment.. BUT as far as I know, What Fable is supposed to about, a on rails FPS version doesn't sound like a smart move... Or Kinect

[DA_SHREDDER]

None of the new fables measures up to Fabe 1. Then the next thing you know Mr. Molyneux talks crap about his masterpiece and has since then tried to turn the world into something it was never meant to be. A mess of gay marriages, passing of sexually transmitted diseases, took the arena and turned it into a circus, changed the magic system, and added guns. Thank you Mr. Molyneux, but all that killed the series for me. I still love me Fable 1 though.

[captain-obvious]

its good that you are realizing that peter
now go make a better game
and yah cancel that on-rail casual s**t you are making now

[AAACE5]

I love Peter Molyneux's vision for trying to bring unique experiences to games. But a lot of the time I wish I could be the coach from the movie Varsity Blues, and slap him over the head with a whistle saying, "Stick to the basics"!

[ChrisGTR1]

and yet the next fable IS EVEN MORE DUMBED DOWN. come on get the picture , we want a hardcore rpg not some rpg for 5 year olds.

[jony_dols]

Thanks Peter Molyneux. I wish you told me this before you greenlighted it for release, and before subsequently, I idiotically bought it.

[firemassacre]

DAMAGE CONTROL

[itani]

I stopped reading at "Peter Molyneux is nothing if not honest – and that probably makes him a Microsoft PR’s worst nightmare."

Him honest? Ha joke of the day.

[coryok]

ya me too lol, he even went on record saying he was sorry for lieing in all the interviews.

he said he needed to build hype for his game and so he lied about features he had no intention of adding into the game, what a dbag lol

[saladthieves]

I agree. This guy and his games just don't measure up to the original Fable. What he did here I had mentioned some time ago: http://n4g.com/news/790782/...

[Titanz]

Didn't really enjoy 2, and never played the 3rd.

The sequels weren't bad, I'm assuming they were too much of the same thing(which works for certain games, and doesn't for others).

[DARK WITNESS]

people need to just stop buying these sh$t games!! That would send a better message, sadly that won't happen.

people will buy so he will keep making them as would any dev I suppose.

[Abash]

Peter Molyneux is by far the most tragic video game developer in history. He has these grand visions but lacks the talent to ever achieve them or even execute his ideas well in all his games.

[TruthSeeker]

Doesn't he always come back and say his games basically sucked after they come out. But before they come out he talks about them like their the best things ever.He promises to much and doesnt deliver.

[ChronoJoe]

"Peter Molyneux is nothing if not honest"

I thought he was pretty famous for his lies lol

[Mr Patriot]

hahahaha

[Gordo789]

"It's NOT ON RAILS!"

lol - molyneux is a visionary but he can also be a total hack. Sometimes a lump of coal just stays a lump of coal no matter how hard you squeeze it. He should think about doing something else.

[Just_The_Truth]

in an interview he said it's not on rail because when your steering the horses down a guided path you come to some forks in the road and can chose whether you want to go left or right. Isn't just sad?

[showtimefolks]

he has never once delivered what he said a fable game would be its always more promises and less actual those promises taking place

[Adam2101]

fable has great elements but still lacks, in alot of things, in consequences , graphics , and combat. its just the same game with no real differences

[AlienLion]

The article starts with "Peter Molyneux is nothing if not honest..." TROLLOLOL! Goes without saying, I stopped readin after that.

[JokesOnYou]

Yeah, but its NOT damage control when Jaffe says:

"I regret... I'm ashamed of the way we greenlit Twisted Metal. I'm ashamed that I didn't stick to my guns more and say, 'Yeah, we got knocked down [with Calling All Cars] and it wasn't a hit, but we still want to do something original like that."
http://n4g.com/news/793726/...

lol, so basicly CaC bombed and now he's going back to Twisted Metal, which is a game from an old genre with shooting cars, that doesn't garner much attention these days itself, lol but hey if thats where his heart is more power to him, and of course on this site Jaffe for ALL HIS TALK yet hasn't made anything notable this gen is given a free pass. lol

I find really funny on this site when Jaffe rants on and on about being disapointed then its fine and most comments tend to follow the "he wears his heart on his sleeve", same with kojima being overly critical of himself and his game then its taken as complete honesty from guys who expect more of themselves but then let a guy like Molyneux being critical of himself and its "Well we know your games suck, told ya so." lol I didn't think Fable3 was as good as it should have been, Fable 2 is at 89 on metacritic, still the 1st is my favorite but either way Fable 3 is far from bad(80 metacritic), what the hell has Jaffe done since GOW makes hims so much better than Peter?...oh thats right he I forgot his paychecks are from sony. Riiight. Personally I think Molyneux just needs to focus more on what made Fable so great cool environment, interesting charachters and silly but not over the top humor and STOP trying to make it all things to all people, true Fable fans will enjoy it, those who never liked it won't like it no matter how many gimmicks and sideshows he adds.

[GameGambits]

It's always the same old song and dance from this has been. He promises you a good game, and you get a turd made for brain dead casuals. Games that are 12 hours TOPS and considered RPGs? Yeah right. That's not a RPG.

He should be ashamed that he is stealing money that could be going to people with talent who could make a good game. P.Molyneux is a joke.

[SonyPS360]

Getting less than 90% doesn't make your game a bad one. Don't listen to the negative retards who do nothing but complain.

I've not played Fable since the first game, but he shouldn't be feeling ashamed, he should be learning from it. 80% isn't bad at all, he just needs to stop over hyping his games.

[gravemaker]

just stop lying and talking about how great your games. Just make 'em great!

[lzim]

sepuku?

[Takoulya]

ROFL! Bubbles up!

[SonyPS360]

Bubbles down for your over reaction.

[Sidewinder-]

this guy gets it.

[Why o why]

Harsh:)

[RankFTW]

I think you'll find it's spelt "切腹".

[Bonobo12345]

Legend

[Ness-Psi]

No thanks I've eaten.

[death2smoochie]

If you're ashamed about it...
First off don't care about scores...
But most importantly...MAKE A BETTER GAME!!!

[badz149]

your voice never reached him because the next Fable is on rail! better than 3? doubt it!

[newn4gguy]

The talent at Lionhead left to make Ragdoll Kung Fu...and later made LittleBigPlanet. :)

We may never see a Black & White 3. :(

[Mr_Lu_Kim]

I'd love to see B&W3!

[EdFry]

Really?
The the streak they're going on I don't think it would even be a similair game.

[pepsilover_2007]

well maybe if you werent talking crap about how great your games are and actually focus on making the games good, then you wouldnt have to be ashamed

[wollie]

I was disappointed in Fable III as well

[user9841288]

Fable on rails kinect will make up for it im sure! ;) The part where you stare at a horses ass for hours and pretend to whip him looks AWESOME!

[Rage_S90]

Looks at user name, looks at comment LMAO

[reddeadite]

It is pronounced Anahl-ra-pissed

[Eamon]

I agree. That was quite funny no matter how immature it was.

[mendicant]

Another person ignorant to the facts. Journey is NOT an on rails game.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011...

[Disccordia]

It's on rails, no matter what PM says. We all saw the demo at e3 and on gametrailers after. When you're on the horse you have semi control over where in the world you visit but once you get off, it's on rails.

[DigitalRaptor]

Another person still buying into the hype and false promises of Peter Molyneux after he's proven time and time again to lie, overpromise and underdeliver!

[mendicant]

All of you who disagreed are ignorant.

This was reported by multiple websites who all saw the game afterwards and confirmed by their signatures on a white board that the game was NOT on rails.

Hate all you want but it's right there for all of you to read. You just choose not to.

[itsralf]

you're ignorant for buying into this crap.
the journey is the final nail in the coffin of fable.

[pixelsword]

@ mendicant:

It was on a white board, so it must be true.

(grins)

[ShoryukenII]

OMG LOLOLOL!!!!! :O

[mastiffchild]

Iknow-it now looks like not only a game that IS on rails but one that's so ashamed of it it wants to pretend it isn't.

[Eizet]

Now whip it! whip it good!

[badz149]

will come bundled with Fable the Journey

[pr0digyZA]

Wow I can't believe this guy he seems to back out out of all the latest products he makes. He makes the games then afterwards says a)It wasn't as good as it should have been I might have hyped it to much in future I will stop that (then next game we see him over sell his games) b)we neglected the PC so we will put that right (PC fable 3 Metacritic score 75 user score 55 with bad optimization.) C)“quality just wasn’t good enough" This guy must be the biggest marketing gimmick, work less on the cameras and work harder on the games.

[thekiddfran]

How has this guy become famous?...seriously.The only good thing he ever created was black and white. That was actually average to start with. All his games after that have received average scores.

[NarooN]

Every time he does something, he always says he's "disappointed" or "ashamed" of it.

Just shut up and move on, learn from your mistakes rather than dwelling on them.

[FlashXIII]

If he's ashamed of fable 3, he's going to commit suicide over the new one.

[Convas]

Well, he sort of has a point. When publishers run you on a two year leash, your creative potential is quite often suppressed to meet deadlines. For example

Sony/Guerrilla Games - the difference between Killzone 2 and Killzone 3

Microsoft/Lionhead - the difference between Fable 2 and Fable 3

[Scuzzlebutt]

I thought KZ3 was better than KZ2 in just about every way. Fable 3 was lucky to average a 80, that was generous.

[Fanboys_suck]

finally! my ignorant Fable fanboy friend can finally see that Fable 3 didn't live up to its name because even Peter molyneux, the guy you freaking made fable, agrees to it.

[Troll_Police]

Just wait til he sees the review scores for Fable: The Journey. Then a year later he'll admit that the game wasn't good like he always does.

[X-Zone]

lol labwarrior will cry when he reads this

[danielle007]

I like Molyneux. Lionhead studios has some really great games, and some really great ideas. Every Fable tries something brand new, and it's usually an amazing idea, like the dog in 2 or letting you rule as King in 3.. I also like the funny social interactions and the titles you could get for doing different things. I always just end up wishing the game was better in gameplay and story, but they were probably cut short on time.

I loved the first Fable. It was amazingly fun. Go back to that, they didn't deliver on all the promises, but I didn't really care.

& make a new Black & White. Kthx.

[mendicant]

Well said danielle, I agree. Bubbs for you for actually having something positive to say.

[mastiffchild]

But most gamers love Molyneux for his enthusiasm but even the most naive of Fable die hards know, deep down, that he lets us down EVERY game. Fable was, in the first place, still a good enough game to cover up the shortfall on the promise front but 2 and 3? Not so much, and this admission says a lot more than the words in it really should-to me at least.

[JellyJelly]

@mastiffchild - I actually enjoyed Fable 3 more than Fable 2, and I thought 2 was better than 1. Besides finishing the story I spent countless hours buying everything, finding all the secrets, marriying women...and men, and more. Very solid title imo.

[ThanatosDMC]

Walter or whatever that veteran soldier's name was.... was the dumbest character ever made. They touted him as being the best soldier from your kingdom but he was actually dumb as balls in the game. I was glad he died and the darkness took him.

[yewles1]

It's okay. According to him, it's not great anyways until it sells 5 million copies... OH WAIT--

[Elven6]

Fable III was good but the only thing that really ruined the game for me was the ending and to a certain extent, how it was handled. It felt like they said "we don't have enough time to do things this way" so they copped out.

There were a few other minor issues I had with the game as well like not being able to manage your buildings in a group. I did like how your consequences actually had weight to them though, it kinda makes you realize why a dictator, monarch, politician, etc would act a certain way when confronted with certain decisions.

[TheDivine]

I kinda feel like every fable has been like that, unfinished. 1 got the lost chapters, 2 had knothole island and the other dlc, 3 got a few dlcs but it needed an expansion, more time ruling the kingdom. I still love every fable and it will always be one of the greatst franchises in my eyes.

[Rampaged Death]

The most disappointing game of last year. Have no idea what they were thinking while developing the last few hours of that game.

[mastiffchild]

Fable2 was the same, wasn't it? A good story let down by an abrupt ending and non fight with the final boss? Series has a history of this and missed opportunities.

[A7XEric]

I have a feeling Microsoft has something to do with that "pressure" that was placed on lionhead. They keep forcing their teams to put together sequel after sequel as quick as possible. They're borderline the activision of first party publishers -_-

[iNFAMOUZ1]

they are game developers thats what they do, they develop games and each developer has a series if not some sort of one they follow, why? because those games have fans who no matter what will always stick to their game.

[TheComedian]

Good.Now get up on your feet learn from your past mistakes and deliver the masterpiece that you talk up each and every time.

[Robotronfiend]

Don't be ashamed, just make a better game.

[Valkyre]

LOL this guy is fucking hilarious!

He was dissapointed with Fable 2 and called it average after he hyped it to death before its release.

Then he was hyping fable 3 saying it is his best work ever.

And now he says he is ashamed!! LMAO

This guy is fucking epic! Is he bi-polar or something? haha

[buckley]

Molyneux... most of your titles are extremely overrated, since way back with Black & White. Face the music.

[Foxgod]

The fable series lost the golden lining that the first one had at the time of its release.
They should start over again, reboot it, and make it worthwhile.

[gaden_malak]

There is no need to reboot it. He just needs to deliver or lower his standards.

Fable 1 and 2 were good, I haven't played 3 but I read it's not as popular as the other 2.

[nix]

one day it was bound to show up.

[coryok]

this guy hypes his game to no end, telling us theres gonna be all this cool shit in them, then when they release eveyrone buys it for the cool shit, but that cool shit is no where to be found.

he makes mediocre games that get hyped to shit

[lochdoun]

An 80 on Metacritic is solid.
The game is quite fun for what it is and has a distinct style to it.
I don't go into a Fable game expecting Elder Scrolls...

[Baka-akaB]

Tired of your excuses and mild mannered apologies for everything you do or dont . Do your frickin' game and do it well period .

[Alos88]

He does this every time. Make a game, hype it up, say how disappointed he was in it afterwards.

[Mcrmarcher]

I actually really enjoyed Fable 3, A vast improvement from 2 imo. on par with the first for me.

[Jdoki]

1. He should leave his desk job in MS. He's a creative director, not a corporate suit

2. Go back to being independent. Get decent financial backing and take the same approach as Epic / iD / Naughty Dog / Team ICO etc where they launch a game When It's Done!

This isn't intended as a flame bait comment, but it seems that Sony are much more willing to give it's 1st and 2nd party devs as long as they need to get a game well polished. MS seem much more interested in creating an annual IP in Fable - and that just doesn't work for an RPG.

He's been trading on his Populous / Bullfrog days for far too long, and although I think he's massively talented and a huge innovator, he's got to stop making excuses and either stand by his product, or stand up to his corporate masters forcing him to launch early.

I can't imagine how gutted all the development team must feel every time they put their blood, sweat and tears in to a game, only for Molyneux to bash it a few months later.

[FernandoMartinez]

Well mr. Molyneux is a man of many words but few deeds.

[Nes_Daze]

Fable games are not that bad, the first was awesome, but it did go downhill from there.

[nilamo]

How about developing a new IP, i think fable had it's run

[belal]

metacritics are not reliebale to get a game. infamous 2, killzone 3 and fable are 3 examples of that. we all know that these games are more than 8, these 3 games are 9+ games.

I just check out 2-3 websites, and that is ign, gametrailers and some norvegian site.

[PooEgg]

Agreed. Metacritics is a bad thing to base your future gaming decisions on. On one end you have bitter fanboys leaving reviews for games they never played, and on the other end you have game journalists hyping average games to keep their ad revenue rolling in.

We need a new standard for deciding if a game is hit or miss.

[belal]

100% agreed.

give you some positive feedback for that :)

[Angrymorgan]

Lol poo egg;)

[Angrymorgan]

I liked it, alot worse out there

[maniacmayhem]

Hey Peter, maybe it's time to hand Fable over to another producer or developer. Maybe it's time for you to concentrate on another IP.

You need to do something drastic to get the magic of the first Fable back.

[SCW1982]

"Fable 3 will be the best fable in the series. We have learned from our past mistakes."

"Sorry guys Fable 3 was a rushed unrefined mess. But Fable the Journeywill be the greatest RPG EVER!".

Oh Peter you make my day. :(

[StarWolf]

thats why i like nintendo because if a game sucks or isnt turning out how they wanted, they just scrap the whole thing . Look at the vitality sensor or Pikmin 3 delay. They dont release it while advertising it, then later call it shit . I bet KZ3 devs will say that KZ3 was shit once KZ4 is getting released. Heck, even R3 devs said R2 was shit.

[dragonelite]

Peter M look at the witcher that is how a rpg used to be made. Just adapt that combat system and bosses and fable should rise again. All fables so far i can remember had shitty bosses. And give my god dam orbs back those were fables trademark for me the red,green,blue and yellow orbs.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Ashamed is a strong word, but the game definitely wasn't very good.

[Acadius]

I truly enjoyed Fable II and I couldn't wait for part 3. However, within the first hour of playing part 3, I wasn't feeling that nostalgic emotion that I got from part 2 that I had still been playing leading up to Fable 3.
What was worse was the game was glitched with the John Cleese butler character suddenly not talking after the first hour of playing. I wasn't the only player who suffered this. Look it up.
On top of that, the game save file had become corrupted at the end of the game so after I had beaten it and was trying to max out weapons and go for achievements, I wasn't able to because of only being allowed one save file. I was upset with Fable III because it just seemed slapped together.
I'm glad that Peter can admit his mistakes over and over.

[IIIIISHAZAMIIIII]

YOU ARE DAMN FU*%ING RIGHT HE IS ASHAMED, THE GAME IS A FU*%ING MESS

[00000000000000000001]

Fuck you guys, I really enjoyed all 3 Fable games. Played them way more than any PS3 exclusive!

[ATiElite]

well then Peter should commit suicide for that horrible PC port.

actually ever Fable release is the same thing....

Peter hypes it up then it gets released with many failures then we find Peter apologizing and promising to do better but only to rinse and repeat.

Fable does a lot of things good but Fable 3 PC port was just Horrible.

[fullmetal297]

Serves him right for getting this score. He any form of RPG in the game including regenerative health and made it a hack n slash.

[XSquareCircle]

I would be ashamed too if you showcased something worse than a multiplatform game at E3. (talking about Skyrim)

[Legionaire2005]

Peter Molyneux need to give Fable a rest, and make a new IP instead. I Wish He didn't cancel that game BC for the original Xbox. He should of put BC the game to release on the 360. Here is a video of the game that could of been something really special for the original Xbox, or the 360. It had the best graphics for the original Xbox and could be even better on 360.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Check the original Xbox Logo LOL!!! We came a long way. 360 needs more exclusives!!! It could use this!!!

[Firstkn1ghT]

Fable the lost chapters is still my favorite and 1 of my favorite games of all time. Fable 2 and 3 games were still enjoyable and a 8 or 9 is deserving. Their ain't many games out there that have a live virtual world like fable. Each individual AI doing specific tasks at certain times of the day is just awesome. The over all experience is just second 2 none in this rare genre.

[MarkusMcNugen]

Ive enjoyed the games but they seem to have gotten progressively worse with each one... especially 3 which was very glitchy. This is probably the worst glitch I ran into...

http://tinypic.com/r/2508o5...

Pretty hilarious actually, but still pissed me off...

[falout]

i tried the first and ended up giving it to my brother after about 30 min..

not cause the game was bad but for some reason i would catch a headache playing the game. if i remember right every time you walk the screen would have that bounce with it as well. it wasnt a crazy heavy bounce but enough to make me feel sick. so i never really got into any fable game cause of that, i tell you what though with the way this guy hypes his game then regrets it each and every time i just may never ever buy a fable game..

[ViserysTargaryen]

I can't wait for this douche to leave the industry. His best years are behind him in the 90s and now a days all he does is make average games and hype them up to be something groundbreaking.

[EDD213]

Who cares about metacritic anyways?

[mcstorm]

I liked the first 3 fable games but the new one looks like it could be a mess. I like the idea they are trying to do but the demo at e3 did not look good at all. Ide like to see black and white as there kinect game as this would of worked very well with casting spells and moving around the map. Ill have a look at the next fable game but i dont know why people have so much hate for the fable games i have liked them all but then again saying that its each ro there own

[Nicolee]

this guy is the most annoying person in game industry.

[Gazondaily]

Peter Molyneux is a sado masochist. He's loved nailing his testicles to the wall since Black and White.

[greyhaven33]

He has pretty much assured me that I will not be wasting my money on any more of his games...I loved fable 1, but 2 and now 3 were disappointing to me...and the fact that he now claims that he knew they were rushing the game and still did the p.r. push that he did for it....thanks buddy

[dkgshiz]

He thinks that's bad? Wait until Fable The Journey. No idea what they are thinking over at Lionhead. They basically keep down grading the Fable series with every new game. Also its really bad when you come out in public showing people your regrets on the games you develop. It gives off bad buyers assurance. At least he is honest. Stop making crap games and people will like them again. Make Fable 1 quality games again.

[artsaber]

To recapture the magic that was in the 1st game. Myself and others wish they could, best it even.

[jbiz330]

stop rushing these silly games out then fucko.. take more than, i dont know, a year between releases.

[iliimaster]

fable was great fable 2 was good but fable 3? man i first rented this game... then sent it back within a week.... then i decided to give it another shot.... and i went and bought it... right now im at the ending and it was painful just to get to this point.... at this point fable 4 isint even on my mind and the kinect game? i dont think so

[irish4life09]

He should be ashamed of making shitty video games.

[gcolley]

deja vu

[tweet75]

he could redeem himself by taking time on fable 4 and make it a 9.5 game

[Treyb3yond]

I guess that's why I call it FAILble.

Peter should really learn to keep his mouth shut though, he doesn't do himself any favours.

[Beastradamus]

The problem isn't Fable III. The problem is Molyneux always hypes his games up so much that there is always this huge let down. Next time he should just keep his mouth shut and make the game so good that it speaks for itself.

[edhe]

He's always wanting to do something new - but fable shouldn't be about that.

Fable should be farmed out to a team and left as it is, not as some playground. Take Fable2 and leave it with a team who can put a better engine in it and take the humour on board. Forget fable3 ever happened and then go on to making new things with your new ideas..

[Horny]

Bring back the dungeon keeper games that you did with bullfrog. I loved those games when I was younger and still play them. They even started working on dk3 and then cancelled it.