gamrFeed compares console prices in the UK and USA, and concludes that Sony is by far the worst offender as far as price disparity is concerned.
Interesting that it can differ so much between manufacturers - how does Sony think they can get away with it?
Just another reason Im glad to be an American.
I feel you name is rather appropriate right now...
here's your map.
your comment doesnt make much sense in the context of this topic...uhh unless you like paying more for the exact same product. Fact is big budget devs and the 3 console manufacturers all know the American gaming market is the single most significant market in terms of sales=successful business. Consequently they cater to American gamers more than any, with lower prices, more services, and new products first etc= another reason Im glad I live in America, Im not rubbing it in just stating one of the small reasons of many more big reasons Im happy Im American. Dont be so bitter, kid.
This looks bad. It kinda is, but the reasons are of course, all tax- VAT (paid by for the consumer to HMRC) is included in the price whereas in America i believe that you may have to pay a local and state sales tax on top of the quoted price. Far as i was aware when travelling it is usually somewhere between 6-10pc total. Also Sterling is weak right now against many currencies. Great if you are exporting, but terrible if you are going abroad i.e changing currency or importing, like these goods are. Sony have previously pointed to weak currencies for the apparent disparity in the price of their goods imported into the uk and the relatively high tax rate here. Of course just prior to the recession, Sterling was incredibly strong again the dollar and euro, asian currencies etc fuelling cheap imports. Those days are long gone now. Living in the U.k isn't exceptionally expensive compared to some countries, but compared to the United States goods can be more expensive which isn't a surprise. All anyone has to do is look at Americans moaning about rising petrol prices, when the U.k easily pays MORE than twice as much per gallon as the most expensive areas in the U.S....
@Biggunz you're gonna need more than 3 pixels in that map :p
Sony stuff is expensive in britain but the prices are based on RRP right? Well no one pays RRP for a PS3 slim over here. The slim might be priced at 280 quid but everyone knows its dead easy to get it for 250 with a game too in some cases. First link i saw: http://www.electrocentreltd... 249 quid = 400 dollars. With a 7pc sale tax on the american price it would be more like $375. I guess you can get stuff below sticker price too so its less, but still. Jus sayin tho, no one pays RRP for a slim these days unless you are stupid
@Biggunz Why is Taiwan under the evil-doers category?
i hate to agree with jokesonyou but i love being an american.... we are the best.
You trying to start a shit storm with that comment JOY? I'll take my NHS over being wheeled out of hospital because I can't afford the medical bills.
@Jokes Once the morons in Washington eventually pass a VAT tax (instead of fixing spending and cutting entitlements), we'll be on our way to similar price adjustments. And let the haters hate. Our politics might be messed up and we might have health issues, but despite the "stupid American" stereotype, we're one of the more educated countries. Compare our statistics to places that have pointless animosity towards us, like Canadians and the Brits, and you'll get to have a good laugh at these "intellectual superiors" (In before someone uses UNICEF's worthless study with one age group)
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The disparity should have been measured as a % so we can get a true scale, but yeah, this is not nice at all.
... Its not only Sony, almost everything in UK is more expensive. It has to do with the cost of life of each country.
Sony Europe is one of the worst company divisions I have ever seen. It's such a damn shame that a great company like Sony has an awful divison like that. I'm still waiting for the PAL release of Uncharted 2 GOTY just like I waited more than enough for the release of God Of War Collection. Not to mention very high price tag of Vita in comparison to US.
Vita is only priced the same as the 3DS in the US. Everywhere else in the world pays significantly more. Sony clearly is showing where their focus is.
b-b-b-b- but the US is insignificant!!!
3DS = 250 $ and 250 € PS Vita = 250 $ and 250 € So..........
I dont understand the pricing though, If I recall the Euro is worth more than the American dollar, so shouldnt it cost less Euros?
No, the 3DS is 230 €, and 180 £ vs the Vita which is 250 £.
IT IS NOT 230 €, 3DS official price is 250 € in spain. Switching between pounds and euros neither tell us the real price. You have to check €'s native price
in Japan 3DS=25000 yen Vita=24980 yen So...
No, it's 23600 yen for 3DS and 25000 yen for Vita. Where did you get this info? (check Amazon)
I can't believe some of you idiots are actually trying to defend it.
I know VAT and other taxes contribute to these higher prices in UK but that's too much of difference. Priceing should really be dropped in UK as US are getting a far better deal
TAX over here for those that earn over 150 grand is like 40% or 48% :/ and for companies its just a killer, UK is the worst when it comes to VAT, thats why you got all kinds of companies leaving this country because only the very big companies like sony can take such a high VAT rate.
You're missing the point yes the VAT is usually why all the consoles are a bit more expensive, but sony charges far more than both nintendo and microsoft for their products compared to the other two American pricing even when you consider the VAT the desparity is much higher. I've been to a few other countries but with the exchange rates being so different depending on where I went I never really paid much attention to gaming costs compared to America, although I've heard a few times on n4g, Australia gaming prices are ridiculously high.
gaming in Australia makes you think new prices on eBay is extremely cheap!
Gunner, corporation tax is completely different to VAT or personal tax. Sony doesn't pay VAT, it pays corporation tax which currently is about 22%. It's the merchant and us that pays VAT. The merchant has to pay VAT on the transaction, which in turn is added to the overall cost of the goods.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that businesses don't actually pay VAT, they claim it back?
You're right. Basically, the only people that pay tax on goods are the consumers. Sony can claim back any taxes it pays when selling to the merchant(rebate through corporation tax). And the merchant passes VAT onto the consumer.
SRP is meaningless in the UK.
I hold on to some hope that we can push for lower prices in the UK, but it seems very unlikely.
And people say ms is greedy
$200 = £200 Yup that's how they sadly see it!
The best place to be a gamer is in the US. Even I, as a British gamer realise that. Anywhere else sucks.
Times have changed. You can get games dirt cheap online in the UK now. I never need to spend more than £15 on a game whether it be on steam or through a retailer. You can buy a ps3 new for a little over £200 and a 4gb xbox for a little over £100. It's really not that bad.
Wow another article bashing Sony? Why do they measure UK prices in dollars? Relatively a game costs the same in UK and US but we see differences when you measure one's games by the currency of another nation. Relatively: a worker who earns 2000 USD a month earns 2000 pounds in the UK, the living costs, food etc are the same either. So its wrong when an American says: "Oh wow I'll move to UK since 2000 pounds is 2500 USD, thats 500 USD more than I earn here!!!" edit: example of piece of bread, lets say its 1$ in America and 1 pound in UK, but to an American who is a tourist in UK and exchange it USD to Pound, he will have to pay more for that piece of bread since currencies are different.
That's ridiculous. The average wage in the UK is lower than that of the USA.
I don't think the average is but minimum may be lower. But what do I know. I'm just a gamer who rarely ventures outside.
Actually the UK wage is higher than the US. The minimum wage in nearly double than the US.
Genuinely, the USA has a higher average wage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... America's is the highest in the world.
you can't compare wages just like that cuz there is no social security in the USA in europea people can get high quality health care very, very cheap compared to the USA... schools are also MUCH cheaper, average pensions are higher...
Their argument is that Sony's prices have the most disparity when compared with competing console manufacturers. Though Sony isn't the only one at fault. Most publishers also have obscene regional pricing. (Aussies and NewZealand folks get the shortest stick) Then again, european customers do get a better deal than americans every now and then.
Istanbull doesn't know what he's talking about.
That really isnt the average wage in the UK, £1,100 maybe, which is about $2000 and dont forget, if we earn £1,100 we only see about £950 of it because of taxes, i know what your trying to say just pointing out the wrong bits
Bullshit! Try paying $120 US in Australia for any new ps3 game!
Agreed, Ironic isnt it how we import from UK as a way to avoid our own High Pricing
Sony seems to be kinder to NZ, Game prices are still higher eg: $60USD = 80 NZD but new games are ~100 NZD But it seems to be that way across the board, X360 games are $100 NZD too, wii games are $80 NZD Which makes me suspect that taxes are boosting the prices in NZ. Same with consoles. NDS is $450 NZD, and the PSPgo was around $480 at launch. So sony seems to be pricing the same rate as everybody else.(both were 250$ in US)
Yeah, I was in shock when I visited Australia. All of your technology is expensive. Washing machines, games, TV. I feel that you get the worst end of the stick. However your weather is delightful. So it balances out I suppose. Having said all that your wages are very good judging by people I know who work out there. Doesn't that balance it out?
Australia has very high wages compared to uk and america ,and a low population so you are right there.
I was under the impression video game prices suck everywhere except here in the US
Good luck coming here to pay $100 for a new XBOX/PS3 game. Or pay 500 for a new console.
Sony be tripping.
It's called the econemy system, not Sony every business including mircrosoft price higher in counties which earn more
The iPhone is a joke. $600 in America and £510 in uk. That's about $900
Frank can get you one for free.
The minimum and average pay rate is different in other countries. Wow didn't know that. /S 1 euro does NOT equal 1 dollar. The exchange rate for us currency is currently going down. That's why everything looks like it cost more in other countries. If you look at the exchange rate for us currency from 5-10 years ago, the prices for everything when converted to dollar is lower. Edit: just wanted to say vgzFAKEcharts To sony $299 = £299 Everybody has been doing it since Euro was created.
The ridiculous overpricing is the reason why I will be importing the Vita from the US, Im not paying £230 for it when the US gets it for only $250 = £155.
Since our dollar is higher than US, but our console and game prices are higher than most develop countries. I don't mind it, but I have to think about the industry in general. They need to lower down the prices so all people can enjoy it without breaking the bank.
the PSVita is listed as 350 dollars on ebgames... 100 dollars more... who is gonna pay that? If its region free I could get it for much less off ebay... Then they complain how the video game industry in Australia doesn't sell... and many other industries... If the prices were lower ... everyone would buy... -_-
lol RRP.... I can tell you now..no one buys anything here on the RRP. The 320 gig system can be bought quite easily for under £230 with a very quick search online. Thats about $390 including all VAT and Tax. So although still more expensive, its not that big a margin tbh. The PS vita on the other hand....
Look at the price comparisons between the UK and USA for the Vita and it doesn't take a mastermind to figure out that we're getting absolutely shafted.
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