When Square Enix announced that Final Fantasy XIII would release on the Xbox 360 it sent waves throughout the video games industry, but they still feel they made the right decision.
from a business standpoint, absolutely the right decision. square needs all the money they can get right now.
It wouldn't hurt if they games they made were fun too.
FFXIII and DQIX were oodles of fun. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
"FFXIII (...)were oodles of fun." No. Just no. I've been in this game for 15 years and know what "fun" is supposed to be. Shape up or take a dirt nap SquareEnix. Garbage vid btw.
@k2d: I heard this game is fun after 30h mark. Been there only to realize that this "fun" consists of one big field with more corridors attached to it, and sidequests which depend on killing monsters which are deliberately placed far away from the "quest" giver to waste more of your time.
It was okay but it didn't really feel like a game as much as it felt like one big anime movie. Minor FFXIII Spoilers.... - - - - - - The freedom on Gran Pulse was the high point of the game. That is before I realized that it was all meaningless. I thought that there was something to do or find on Gran Pulse that would have meaning later on. But I was mistaken the freedom of Gran Pulse didn't make 13 any less linear at all.
The combat system in FF13 was severely flawed. 12
Too bad cause we gamers lost respect for Squarenix
business standpoint yes it was right But from a game standpoint it was very much wrong. They already admited to removing features and content soley because they didnt have the energy to make it work on the 360 ie dual audio, more content, ect
Yeah I know, if they would have ditched the PS3 version and stuck to the Xbox 360 version, it wouldn't have any of those problems... The PS3 version was taking away resources from the Xbox 360!
Why would they ditch the PS3 version?.. Sony has still a large say in what Square Enix does, since it has around a third of their shares
Okay. I chuckled, gamindgroid :)
How would they fit dual audio, more content, and uncompressed video/sound on DVD?
@VampiricDragon I am still not convinced that it was the best thing for business. I don't how to compare to hypotheticals in few words so I will use a math formula. PS3 units sold if exclusive > PS3 units sold (multi-plat) + 360 units sold (multi-plat) Lots of material was cut from the PS3 exclusive FF13 in order to turn it into the multi-plat FF13. So this is not an apples to apples comparison; PS3 exclusive 13 would have been better. I know a better game doesn't always result in more sales but I think in Final Fantasy's case it does. On the flip side, the material that was cut from the original PS3 exclusive FF13 is now being sold as a new game. So I will have to consider those sales as well.
This is why I'm very much excited for Versus XIII. It's taking so goddamn long though, but at least I know, at least judging by the material released so far, it will be much better than FFXIII, or XIII-2. I just hope that FF fans adopt it as well as they did for the crappy ones of this gen, and that goes for 360 fans too!
Well I respect that end of the day. You should respect both consoles end of the day... at least in my opinion.
Times have changed everyone has too look at the 360 now its got so big. Even those who were loyal to Sony like SE, Insomniac and Kojima.
The problem is that MS has built the brand by greed and faulty business tactics, whereas Nintendo and Sony have built their brands from quality and loyalty. Just look at the 360 now, it does not have exclusives. The 360 is dependent on Halo, so much that they have announced 3 more Halos. They couldn't even wait for the 4th to be released to announce the 5th and 6th. If the Xbox 3 is not marginally better than the PS3 and the Wii U (or whatever console Nintendo has by then) people will ditch the Xbox brand, specially developers. Why would people buy a console for multi platform when they can play them anywhere else, even now in Nintendo's console? I don't like Halo, but respectively, if Sony only had God of War or Uncharted 4, 5, 6 I wouldn't buy a Sony console, and even Nintendo, has more franchises than MS. Developers will realize this, and as deep as MS wallet is, they won't be able to buy their success forever. They need a real foundation.
I mostly agree with you but... Most Xbox gamers don't seem to care about exclusives as long as they get a Gears, Halo, and CoD. These same people don't seem to care that they're being charged for the same service as PSN and Steam, or that Youtube, Netflix, and ESPN can be viewed everywhere else at no extra cost. They don't care that they're playing on borrowed time unless they own a Slim. Xbox gamers seem to be happy with the current state of the brand. It's us multi-console owners that have the problem. I can't see myself buying another XBox unless MS shows more commitment to games and 1st party studios.
Yeah, from a business perspective you can see more money coming in for them. Although a lot of PS3 players get disappointing because of the slimmed down game so it'll fit on the 360 version.
Capcom and Square are not my favorite this gen as they where last gen. i dont know what happened but something needs to change with them. there games used to be way better than they are now and for the most part its eye candy now.
I don't know about the 360 but SE respects the PS3? After 5 years they have only released ONE game on the PS3 and it was multi platform. The only other game from SE to be released on the PS3 (and that is not even sure by now) was announced 6 years ago and haven't even shown 0.01% of the game. They have even taunted that the game could to go multi platform even after saying several times it will be exclusive. Then they release FF XIV online on the PC, and do a mess with the game, so now where is the PS3 version? So in short, they do not respect the PS3, Sony and most importantly their fans. Actually, they don'r respect their fans, whether ps3 owners or not.
Two if you count Star Ocean, but I get your point. I think the whole FFXIII fiasco was just the straw that broke the camel's back for PS3 fans. The disdain for Square Enix began with Infinite Undiscovery being exclusive, Star Ocean being a timed exclusive, and The Last Remnant being announced for the PS3 then never released. While none of those games blew up metacritic, I thought they were ok...they certainly would have been welcome at the time they were released because the PS3 was starved for JRPGs. If I were a PS3 only owner I would be pissed at Square for the way they have treated the PS3 this generation.
As devs you are right. They have published a bunch of stuff but it's mostly former Edios properties. When it comes to jrpgs SE have made some of the dumbest decisions this gen along with Scamco.
They did it for money and released a poor quality product.
Then put more games on the ps3.
Actually SE has shown more respect to the PSP and DS than they have HD systems, in terms of games. While other companies have a good balance of handheld titles and console titles ( Konami, Namco, Capcom, Level-5 to name few ) Square Enix started this gen with too much focus on portable games( which don't sell well outside of Japan )now they're behind on PS3/360 development and are playing "catch up" with their purchase of Eidos.
Exactly. Making games for handhelds has the potential for big sales at minimal development costs, but if you don't start investing on the cutting edge you'll be left behind. 12
@colonel179 People need to start looking at the bigger picture instead of one only based of selfishness. Square is a company whos miain goal is to remain competitive and sustainability. So enough of this its about me who cares about other platforms. So enough of this loyalty garbage. They don't owe you anything so just be grateful they gave you am explanation as to why the game wasn't exclusive. The Playstation 3 just doesn't have the marketshare any longer to fund these big budgeted games solely for the Playstation brand any longer. Wake up, Final Fantasy sells well outside of Japan.
Really...? Is that why FFXIII sold better on the PS3? When you make long games like FF multiplatform, the quality suffers. Food for thought.
@level I will be grateful when delivers a final fantasy or another quality game that is actually good regardless of whether it's exclusive or not, till then f off for telling me who i should be grateful to and why. "People need to start looking at the bigger picture instead of one only based of selfishness." Yes your right se hasn't made a game on consoles that is worth a damn, and they ignored one console for yrs, not no exclusives no games period. Not good business practices. Their relevancy as a rpg maker is quickly fading on the consoles, and their games or lack there of have fallen greatly in quality, their magic has lost it's power. Se has alot bigger problems than fans being upset that theirs games are not exclusive to ps3. "So enough of this its about me who cares about other platforms." I buy games for 1 person me like everyone else does dumbass, why should i give rats ass, if other gamers have the correct console to play it on. I am not their mommy, i am not screaming that it's is unfair that gears is exclusive, if a third party wants to make a game exclusive to one console either buy that console or stfu it's that simple. I am tried of these cheap or biased gamers demanding every game or developing to be multplatform, because they themselves feel slighted in some way, and you were saying something about people being selfish again. "Wake up, Final Fantasy sells well outside of Japan." Yes and as soon as square enix decides to grace us with a real final fantasy, that might be the case, btw it has sold outside of japan well already for 2 generations it's called the sony platform. Something both you and se doesn't understand it seems.
http://www.joystiq.com/2010... http://uk.ps3.ign.com/artic... The game sold well, that's all that needs to be said really. It was a business decision and Square saw how the Playstation 3 struggled to regain its popularity across the globe compared to the total domination of the Playstation 2 and the original Playstation. Both of thsoe systems made perfect sense to offer exclusivity. They saw the XBOX360 as a viable platform and changed its tune on making the game exclusive. It is still exclusive in Japan so to say it would have sold better if it were to remain a true exclusive is here-say and just plain nonsense. Look at Mass Effect. Part 3 will now come out simultaneously on all 3 platforms (Playstation 3, XBOX360 and PC). That's a good thing. Lots of people have no idea at all the struggles Square had with the Playstation 3 and how FFXIII was going over budget and the constant delays. They made a executive decision to make it multi-platform LATE in development. Knowing full well the Playstation 3 userbase was not getting the growth they had hoped to keep the game exclusive compared to the rising cost of development. Again this all stems from the attitude of me me me. And when the game fails to deliver their expectations what do these people do? They lay blame of it going multi-platform without any concern at all about how a business needs to adapt with the times. Part of adapting is realizing loyalty has nothing to do with anything and is drivel that is mainly injected by the fanboys.
No sense in arguing with them, they clearly don't want MS as a player in the games market, they never did since the original Xbox.