GameMarshal.com has put together a "Facts & Figures" comparison chart between Battlefield 3 and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 contrasting the 2 games.
Shouldn't the engine say improved (BO,MW2,MW) engine instead of just MW2?
Technically it is the MW2 engine improved as developers have referred to it, even if it was used in other titles. At least that's my understanding.
Yes. And IW doesn't like to "Name their engines" Their words not mine. I do like the comparison chart. Much better than a screenshot comp.
I stopped by here to look at all the "flame on" etc.. where are you?!
At the end of the day for me its gonna come down to gameplay, and multiplayer, I think we all know what cod will be like so hopefully BF3 will be awesome
Bad Company 2...but bigger scale, more vehicles, and better graphics...and prone. as for modern warfare 3 having dedicated servers...MAYBE...on PC...no way that'll happen on console.
Oh ok thanks GMAnton.
Looks like bf3 wins!
this chart lacks some main advatages that BF3 has over Cod like destruction and big maps
Last I read of Dedicated servers on MW3 was its a maybe AFTER launch. With the game only launching with Peer to peer matchmaking crap.
all based off the quake 3 arena engine - john carmack thats why those maps in call of duty are small and use techniques to make it appear its large but you can never enter those far off areas or they'll use fog or cut scenes to give the illusion of larger areas its old technology but they've added graphical enhancements to make it appear decent
I didn't know BF3 DLCs are coming on 360 first?!!
they aren't....look at the picture again lol there is a 6 and 6 is for MW3 lol numbers 2,3,4,6 are for MW3 numbers 1,5 are for BF3
Most likely PC first or all at the same time..
COD3 Engine *fixed*
I dont get the disagrees? I wouldnt say COD3 engine, more like COD4 engine because when you compare MW3 with COD4, there isn't much difference.
does it matter?
Are you still playing your 2600 more than any system? Even myself being a retro gamer still plays my 360 100x more than my NES.
I don't know im a PC Gamer, but I also play occasional xbox.
doesnt matter BF3 Im sure will be a great game but I prefer COD style of gameplay...with so many shooters Ive started to cut back and only by 1 or 2 a year that I know I will get my moneys worth by playing for most of the year= still playing COD BO 3-4 times a week.
NUH UUUUUUUUUUUUUUH MY GAME IS BHETAAR THAN URS
also used in CoD 2 actually ;)
MW3: Leading Platform: None should be xbox360
no its actually not
Correct, they have come out and said that they don't actually have a leading platform and are trying to make the game equal on all 3.
They always say that, and in the end the 360 ends up with no problems at all while PS3 and PC versions are infested with bugs and hackers.
Dude its confirmed to have the DLC first
@emekcrash Agreed. That is one of the reasons why I will be trying BF3 this time, not MW3. I hate coming into hacked games in MW2.. Couldn't they at least leave the game normal - but if you wanted to play hacked /modded games you had to download a patch or something?
@emek I've seen more hacks on 360 MW2 than PS3 MW2.
It's obvious it's the 360, for christ sakes, they played the 360 version at E3 and they have exclusive DLC for 360. This comparison is a little too early. They haven't even released any information officially about the multiplayer. Both games appeal to different people. One is more tactical and the other is more run and gun, quick action. Both will be decent.
Incorrect. if you scaled battlefield down to a few rooms and took out the vehicles and graphics, you'd have a very similar experience. Battlefield just ramps it up about 100x by adding scale, vehicles, bullet physics (bullets drop over a distance and you have to lead a runner or vehicle), classes, etc.. Dice should actually just take closed off sections of their giant maps and have a DM competitor for COD because the experience would just feel more solid.
@The Blind I have no idea what most of your comment is. First off WoW has not been hacked and there are no cheats for it, the only thing that goes on is peoples passwords being hacked and accounts either sold or used to make gold.
BattleField 3 isn't being ported from pc. The ps3 and xbox version both have their own ways of rendering the game. Here is a slideshow for the ps3 version http://publications.dice.se... (it's the 2nd article).
While DICE is doing a great job using the strength of the consoles, in the link you gave, you can see how they tried to take the directcompute work they did on the PC and translate it over to the Cell processor. Call it a high quality port, which is fine as long as you do it well.
oh so you don't think mw3 is doing the same? I pity the fools that think that mw3 is not a port from the xbox version. Also go through the whole slideshow you will see it's definitely not a port ;)
Thanks for a interesting link ddkshah. Maaaan I'm glad I'm playing games and not coding them :P
"oh so you don't think mw3 is doing the same?" No, he didn't say that. stop being an aggressive baboon's behind.
strange that I only hear from people being hacked in MW2 on 360.
People don't get hacked. People modify their own copy of MW2 to allow them things like aimbot and wallhacks, and other such things.
Oh no you didn't! Xbox 360 has more hackers? In the 1.5 years I've played the game I've come across hackers on only 3 occasions. On the PS3, I remember 80% of games being hacked. No lie! I think this was prior to an update being released a few months ago. Nonetheless, it was chaos. The hackers were even advertising hacks on the little newsfeed at the bottom of the lobby. I know someone who had his prestige rank reset....he was not pleased. It was so surreal.
@ septic cool story bro.
because you spend all your time trolling xbox360 forums.
You're a retard :) "We don't have lead platforms, we develop each version alongside each other. Xbox 360 is running at same as PS3." - R Bowling
I don't know what im looking at. It doesn't make sense
This chart is helpful and all, but who needs a chart to see BF3 will be better?
Agreed. I think cod games are fun. But for me I will log more hours in bf3. What sets it apart for me is.... Vehicles and destruction!
i agree,normally i would get both-cod is fun in small doses,bf has great mp-i just cant afford it this year.so im going with bf3.
The frost bite engine! imo puts bf games ahead of cod games
Yeah, cause graphics make a game fun you know. :-\
The frost bite engine isn't just about graphics you know...
In a way, yes. If CoD had PS1 graphics would as many people play it? And the Frostbite engine isn't just graphics. It also handles physics. It does the destruction, the recoil, the bull drops etc. They DO change how the game is played.
Thespaz is right! I can name a shitload of sequels from previous generations that are worse than its predecessors: RE, GTA, DMC, FF, MGS, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Fallout, Oblivion... Graphics are just one part of the equation that makes a game good and it isnt the most important part of it.
They "forgot" about the engine resolution because that shows how ancient is CoD engine. In fact, I don't know any game which has lower resolution than COD:BO on PS3.
If you give me some numbers which can be confirmed, I'll be more than happy to update it.
Here you go. Of course I can't give you link to BF3 & MW3 data as the games haven't been released yet. But 720p for BF3's been confirmed by DICE. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
No one will know the truth on the resolutions until after the games come out. There may be data out there but a lot of times after release you find out that was not true/accurate and the games are just being upscaled. As far as the no lead platform that is all PR hog wash. They also said that the PC version will never dip below 60 FPS. They are saying all the right things but I will not be surprised if these are all empty promises especially as we near their deadline an Activision is breathing down their necks to get the thing done.
IMO battlefield will be better, for no other reason that if you have played any cod game, u have played them all. No difference at all between mw1, 2 and no doubt 3
customizable killstreaks, new perks, new maps, new weapons, new campaign, spec ops, zombies, dead ops, theatre mode, combat training, wager matches....no, they didn't change ANYTHING from MW1. Give me a break, I get it. The game needs to be revamped. I agree. But to sit there and say they have no differences is just ignorant. That's the one thing they do, add a bunch of stuff. If you mean they gameplay feels alike, then that's a different point.
They do ALL of that every time. Customizable streaks since MW2. New perks, maps, weapons, campaign in every release(duh; without that, it'd literally be the same as last game). Zombies since WaW. DeadOps is SpecOps(MW2) with Zombies(WaW). That leaves theater mode (watching replays?), combat training(is it even necessary), and wager matches(clan matches in any other game). That stuff isn't even worth a new game.
im sure he meant gameplay wise.
@ hicken If that's the case, then that should apply to EVERY sequel. Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 2 played the same and had the same weapons (graphics improved though). Same for Halo. Same for every sequel. Those are the things you are suppose to change in a sequel. They aren't going to take away what makes their game their game and add completely different stuff with every installment. Also, wager matches are not like clan matches. All wager matches are everyone against everyone. I doubt I will be getting MW3, or if I Do, won't be till later in the winter, but I still think people here just like to hate COD because it's the "cool" thing to do. If you don't like the game then that's fine, but what's the point for trashing it? I am not a COD fanboy or anything remotely related to that, the only games I am really looking forward to are Gears 3 and Mass Effect 3.
Dedi servers alone makes BF3 a buy in my book.
not if they acted like bad company 2's for the first month of release!
Meh, that was kinda expected. The first BF game on PC in a while. I think DICE had underestimated how many of us would swarm to the game's servers.
"not if they acted like bad company 2's for the first month of release!" yeah because that doesn't happen to practically every game that first comes out.....
Give me a break. Just because it happens to other people doesn't mean that all of the sudden makes it acceptable. We are paying $60 for their product, it's expected to work AFTER you pay them for it.
What you paid the 60$ for, did work. All the data on the disc was valid. What didn't work were the servers, which you didn't pay for, but could have if you wanted to. /troll
Well, it's clear that MW3 has the better features. 60fps No Lead Platform I know what I'm getting!
The only reason BF3 has a lead platform is because the PC can do so much more than the PS3 or the Xbox. Remember these consoles are what 6 years old now. They need to push the PC since you can always upgrade your machine to handle the graphics.