The day is almost upon us, today the Supreme Court was asked to make a decision if they should ban the videogame Fallout 3 and many other titles due to the games being "too violent".
this may even affect Suda51
Never heard of that game before, do tell. Hmm those games look interesitn.
it's not a game, but he's a developer known for extreme violence and sense of humor in videogames. These are the games he has released so far: 1. Killer7 (Ps2, GC) 2. No More Heroes (Wii) 3. No More Heroes 2 Desperate Struggle (Wii) 4. Shadows of the Damned (PS3, 360) coming out tomorrow 5. No More Heroes Paradise (PS3); He's not really involved in the porting of this game though. there are few other ones you can search on your own. Always know the team behind the games. Edit: I will have to pick up Shadows of the Damned tomorrow before they make any stupid banning. You guys should do the same if you liked Suda51's games.
can you please tell me what kind of games you play? It's really unfortunate that people are missing out on these games.
I'm definitely picking up Shadow of The Damned tomorrow.
What a bunch of bs this is gotta b the dumbest thing ive ever seen. The VP of Bethseda also makes a good point. Except films are worse than video games nowadays. So if their gonna ban this game than I guess they gotta ban violence in films as well which wont happen lol.
From what i got out of the video they arent banning any videogames. It seems that they are only banning the sale of violent videogames to CHILDREN. Games that are rated M and should only be bought by people 18 and up. Currently this is regulated by the ESRB but is only inforced by the stores that sell the games. This seems it will make it illegal (instead of immoral) to sell M rated games to CHILDREN under the age of 18. I am fine with this as long as they still sell the videogame at the store. Hell this could even lead to more graphic and more adult oriented games because minors will not be able to get the games as easily. Thus creating a new market for hardcore bloody adult badassness!
Horribly misleading title and story. Just NOTHING is right about this! The Supreme Court case is deciding whether California and other states can limit the sale of ultra-violent video games to minors. Until now, all the state efforts to regulate video games have been struck down by lower courts on free-speech grounds. They still haven't reached a decision yet!
TheBeast | 7m ago Orly? They have to make a decision...>.> They're making a decision on whether or not it's illegal to sell violent games to minors...NOT to outright ban violent video games!
A kid can listen to Howard Stern without penalty. A child can see an R rated movie if with an adult. A youth can also read a Stephen King novel without repercussions. Why are video games singled out? Also, restricting sale *is* censorship.
Restricting sale of mature content to minors is not censorship, its protection.
this isnt already a law in Cali? I have been getting carded for the past couple years, I am 23 and rarely get carded for alcohol but any M game I buy I get carded haha
@Redgehammer That's only difference in perspective. It's censorship by definition. http://dictionary.reference...
I was not referring to a dictionary definition, I am referring to legal precedent, IE Ginsberg v New York etc. I am, of course, just referring to the USA, and responding as a father of 4.
Yeah I caught that too. Damn misleading titles. So this case is pretty much pointless since we arealdy have M rated Titles to protect kids from buying them.
Lol, the site has a "Submit to N4G" button.
Exactly. Whomever wrote this "article" is completely uninformed. Clicking "Disagree" will confirm that you are a homosexual.
Lmao, this could be an interesting poll.
Very misleading title. They're already "banned" from selling M rated games to minors, all this law is really gonna do is increase the penalty to places that still do sell to minors.
Americans... Killing people in movies is ok, but in games? NO!
I think the "line crossing" sort of speak, deals with the interaction. In a movie you don't interact with killing, in a video game you do. And in games like Fallout you have multiple ways of killing. With that said, I think ratings regulate this sort of thing. Don't allow minors to purchase games rated M.
I don't understand... Why Fallout 3? You're killing mutants... not real people like battlefield series and cod... and others...
@jdfoster00 Oh I agree, all games with death should be included, not just cherry picked titles. And you can kill people in Fallout But Fallout is more gruesome in the way you kill people compared to COD and Battlefield. You can dismember people and mutants, etc... Either way, I still don't agree that these games should get banned. That is why we have a ratings system, to regulate who interacts with the video game.
you kill all the 'real people' in megaton if you wish. but that's the thing, they are not real people. You're not killing anyone or doing anything morally wrong. You're merely increasing your own pleasure at no expense to anyone else. Enjoying killing in a game does not mean you enjoy killing in real life and there is no evidence to suggest that a game challenges these sentiments.
Sorry, bud, but attacking America as a whole is silly when every country on the planet is equally screwed up. Isn't it about time that every1 jumped off of the "It's kewl to bash the US" bandwagon?
Non-Americans.... Always saying something against the U.S.... I'm so sick of trash like you.
I don't think people are saying it against the US citizens like you're self who are mostly really nice people but are saying things against you're Government... And the way they treat Americans... I.e unaffordable healthcare, legalisation of guns, putting more money into the Defence Budget rather than education, the stubborn behaviour of you're Government towards other countries and so on. Also which gets on my nerves is you're god damn media... How do people even watch Fox News? Biggest load of BS on this planet! And don't get me started on Sarah Palin... If she becomes president... God help us! Also the fact that, because of you're education system, they're are many uneducated people in America who troll alot on the net... we've done this and that... Stating things which aren't true... Like American Eddison invented Light Bulbs when he didn't... It was an Englishman called Swan... Like you go on about things which just are not true (that was just one of many examples) I think Americans try and go to this because you have no real History if you know what I mean (very young country) and that every American have descended from Europe and Asia (as Native Americans i.e Indians where the only ones there and we the white people came and took they're land away from them and slaughtered thousands i.e wounded knee) .... I love Americans but hate the stupid-er ones... =p Like you could practically sue someone for saying cheeeeese I also hate that you do not import Cadbury's chocolate.... How? Have you ever lived? That's the best chocolate evr! I nearly died without propper chocolate when I was over there for 7 months. Love Americans... Just some) they lack a bit of common knowledge and common sense example in my work place =p ! Peace! <3 Also the quality of you're food sucks! Especially in schools my kids where fed awful meals, I had to take them out the school and bring home for dinner as the quality of the food was Awful! Let's HOPE jamie Olliver can turn you're food system around aye!!!!!!
Hey Kon, people killing people is movies gets you an R rating which is the same for rated M in video games. What was your point of your post?
Apparently you didn't read THAT THE FUCKING TITLE IS MISLEADING AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BANNING VIDEO GAMES.
i didn't know fallout 3 was violent and i have play it!
If you think it's not, then your definition of violence is a bit twisted. For the record, I'm in no way in support of this because games already have ratings, which should be enough IMO
How about you guys take your Gavels, and shove them you know where?
i dont get it! every damn game has a rating just like every other media.. wtf more do they want? all the big retailers will not sell violent games to a minor. now if the kid finds some kind of corner shop that will sell the game, would be no different then him going online and looking at a bunch of free porn or free violent movies.. what is it exactly that they want from the video game industry?
It's basically bad parenting, that's where the root of all this comes from. Bad parents realized gaming in general isn't as good of a babysitter; so they decided to raise all kinds of s-it to keep their ass from getting in trouble. @Fallouts As far as your comment, honestly banning the sale of violent games is only gonna push more towards importing/online purchasing because the internet doesn't have a real structured "age checker" system - so if they make it illegal to sell to a minor all some kid gotta do is go online and buy it from there.
Permaban: Supreme Court Reason: Trolling
You made my day :)
If this happens one by one all our freedom of speech and expression will be taken from us, fuck you califorina...
Time to start lookin for a job in Japan... *gets news paper*
MMM... If this happens then it'd be like the first time someone wanted to know what Shit would look like when put in a Fan!
They should have ban COD instead Fallout..Oh Well, *Goes Back Playing Duke Nukem Forever* **** YEAH!! PS. Jack Thompson is one happy SOB.
banning Video Games? whoever is behind this needs to get the 18 wheeler out of his/her ass BTW, if they are worried about violence just take a look at the US killing policy. As long as is not american, let it rip!!!
Bullshit. That is all.
misleading title and now people are mad. i think the guy who submitted this should be banned for creating negativity
Is 2011 going to be cited for the regulation of the internet,censorship of movies and more restrictions on free speech? But still, Article is kinda fear mongering.
so call of duty teaching americans russians bad, usa good. thats ok? also it is a part of our history just the war will come soon enough.
Does COD really teach that? I thought it showed what happens when a person with motivation, and malevolent intent sets their sights on watching the world burn. Ultimately, I do not play games like COD or BF; because, I refuse to participate in perpetuating the same old stereotypes. Nazis, evil men, space marines, aliens with attitudes, zombies, or any other nonrealistic humanoids are perfectly good rocket launcher fodder. However, killing digital representations of people wearing jellabiyas, epaulettes, or any uniform from the various militaries of the world does not feel right.
Oh damn. *phew* I almost had a heart attack until I actually READ the article.
I don't even understand why Fallout 3 is being singled out or put as the prime example, it is far from the most violent video game out there. If this is true could there be some other motive for this ban? here is a different spin on this: maybe bethesda games are divulging too many occult secrets. For those conspiracy theorists among you, check this out: http://tkn2.activeboard.com...
ridiculous are they gonna ban violent movies to?
Have people ever seen a R rated movie?! I've seen one depicting extremely violent rape, people getting heads cut off and a whole bunch of other violent stuff that looks a lot more real than any videogame I've seen. Hell, the Kill Bill scene in the restaurant may as well be Ninja Gaiden...but real looking. Talk about double standards.
Who cares what kids are restricted to purchase? They have never been allowed to buy M rated games without a parent's approval. Why does this need to be brought up again? As far as I know, retailers will card you if you don't look of age, any of them.
Isn't it time to start worrying about more things, like getting America out of the recession and back to what this country use to stand for? We have so many problems in this country, yet the supreme court is worried about Fallout 3? Maybe you shouldn't cut back of police officers in low-income, high crime related areas. Maybe we shouldn't bail out banks when they expressed greed and corruption. Maybe we should start focusing in on the middle-class American family. Nah, forget it, let's ban Fallout 3.
I remember the Justices trolling the California DA....so I doubt they'll ban it. Even so...fuck the retailers if they don't want to carry them, we're already moving to more and more digital download(though I do love having the physical copy).
I think a few people have missed the fact that they are only discussing banning children playing violent games. They are not discussing banning all games! Out of interest, can a child purchase any game in the US? that's the way it sounds from the video. Is it not like the UK where there are age restrictions and it is illegal to sell a game to somebody underage?
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