MMGN writes: PlayStation 3 gamers rage as comparisons between Battlefield PC and PS3 footage spark outcry.
No pc gamers are with their " We don't want console ports" or their constant complaining about DRM. The list goes on and on.
Nah, most of them are. This generation is filled with ungrateful spoiled brats, PC gamers included They never let up about who is spoiling their experience and how PC gamers are more mature. Many gamers talk and say nothing and are full of hot air. Everyone isn't like that but most are. @ TheLastGuardian2010. No they mostly care about scores and sales. @ LOGICWINS you misunderstand. GAMERS are mostly spoiled ungrateful brats. I just said PC gamers are too. I am basing this on the ignorant attitudes, constant whining and stupid trends that I see making up gaming these days. This generation of gamers in my opinion is the worst ever.
"Nah, most of them are. This generation is filled with ungrateful spoiled brats, PC gamers included They never let up about who is spoiling their experience and how PC gamers are more mature. Many gamers talk and say nothing and are full of hot air. Everyone isn't like that but most are." How the hell do you know that MOST PC gamers are "ungrateful spoiled brats"? Thats just as stupid as assuming that all console gamers are whining brats. Just because you may have had a COUPLE of bad experiences with PC gamers on N4G or anywhere else doesn't give you the right to label an entire group of gamers. @blackburn10- It seems to me like your making a huge generalization. I don't see how you can make that type of determination to the point where you can say "most" gamers are spoiled. Gamers are more spoiled because as technology gets better, they expect MORE out of their gaming experience(this is a good thing IMO because it keeps devs striving to do their best). As far as the "ungrateful" part..I don't know how you came to that conclusion.
The way i see it when i comes to age, Console is where your gonna see the most immature people since many times parent buy the console compared to PC which in most cases gamers themselves pay to build one. This is one of the reason for that PC are mature claim. They all whine though. And yeah this Gen has the most of it (power of the internet) @WarPrincess whats wrong with having PC ports to console then? Sure you wouldn't be happy and i can see you whining about PS3 getting 360 port. And some console games have DRM, this isn't due to PC either.
"The way i see it when i comes to age, Console is where your gonna see the most immature people since many times parent buy the console compared to PC which in most cases gamers themselves pay to build one. This is one of the reason for that PC are mature claim." Well said. PC gamers ARE more spoiled, but they have the RIGHT to be considering that they're shelling out more money to keep their PC up to date..as opposed to a console gamer that spends $300-$600 on a stationary piece of hardware.
So.... everyone are Brats then. Remember everyone always want more.. we are never consent with whats their we will always want more it's just human nature.
I don't see 360 users acting like that.
PC Master Race here. Stop spoiling my experience blackburn
There are SOME PS3 owners that think "the cell processor" has this magical power to unlock graphic capabilities that match even the most high tech computers in the world. If for some reason the graphics aren't matching high end pc's then they blame the developers for not understanding the cell. Like Dice stated, "they don't understand what a modern PC is capable of".
'Are Console Gamers Whining Brats?' No not at all. Console or pc gamers are the same. We gamers hunger for quality and playability of a new IP game. And not the same IP with a little extra with DLC. Developers should realize this and stop making games if they tell us we are brats.
I find the sense of entitlement amongst typical HARDCORE gamers nothing short of astounding. Whether PS3, 360, or PC the story remains the same. The following are examples of things I always hear peeps whining about: Latest game doesn't support _____? Only thirty frames/second?!? Another 360 to PS3 (or console to PC)port!?! These shooters are all the same! Follow these done-to-death complaints with the unending PS3 vs 360 arguments or console vs PC and what you have is a whole bunch of complaining for nothing. Remember: The gaming industry doesn't owe us anything. They don't have to make games, and we don't have to buy them. If they choose to make a good enough product, we can then choose to reward that effort with our money. Yay, free markets!
I hope ur including urself in this tbh :) But yeh i wud say PC gamers are spoilt as they think every1 has tons of money to throw at a Pc and then upgrade it every year or so... @Logic... PC gamers have a right to act spoilt since theyve earned it.. what aload of BS lol There spoilt if they didnt pay for it but their parents did and therefor they dont have the "right" so.. :)
You'd have to be a PC gamer to truly understand what it means when we say we don't want a console port. It would be like taking a Mustang GT500 and putting a straight six engine in it and telling us they did their best. If all you ever drove were straight six engines (consoles) then you would have no idea the way a cobra jet 428 (PC) feels when you push the gas pedal.
pc gaming is like playing on a team with derrick rose, dwight howard, kobe bryant, d-wade, shaq in his prime, and jordan in his prime for many years in comes console ports all of a sudden your team is full of lebrons ringless crybabies that don't even wanna play in the 4th quarter
@JsonHenry Agreed mate. The crashes, bugs, horrible graphics, crappy AI, bad control schemes have left me sore. Been hurt too many times by the crappy ports. Theres only so much my wallet and time can take.
If ur a PC gameer why the fuk u even care about console ports... Nothing starts off on the Xbox then goes to the PC.. other way round so :) Troll
Wow, Heartnet is retarded.
I think both side whine quite a bit but it also gets blown out of proportion with sites like N4G
There are literally millions of gamers, tens of millions, so to categorize, or generalize gamers into one group, or another, is not really feasible. Millions, we hear that word so often, but do we truly grasp just how many people that is? Every age, gender, race, creed, sexual orientation, or any other discriptor we can think of populates the world of gaming. Even if you read a 1000 different articles a day, it would take 1000 days to read a million articles. We shouldn't allow the most vociferous among us, to be the watermark for what a gamer is.
Dangerously close to deflating this BS(as MOST gamers on console AND PC pretty much shut up and get on with it-though, granted we ALL, to a man, have something that winds us up in the hobby, don't we?)by using plain old logic. So many people game, even on one platform-take PC, that t's not possible to even define what a PC gamer(or console or p[ortable)gamer really is to start with. christ, I'm willing to bet every penny Ican find trhis year that MORE people play casual games like those on FB these days than play the deeper experiences most of us here enjoy more anyway and Idon't see masss of Farmville players moaning about stuff or being over entitled, do you? No. Also I didn't see too many Ninty, Sony or 360 gamners moaning much about ANYTHING either and we tend to forget that the loudest and most opinionated gamers show up places like here and it makes us imagine there's a whole World of people out there that even CARE as much about this as we do and the fact is, even then, MOST of N4G aren't cry babies. As you say, they're allowing a few idiots to support a very spurious and insulting opinion and one you could use the idiots to support on ANY platform and probably from any other passionate hobby too. Cry baby console gamers are as much the minority on consoles as elitist tools are on PC. Sure both communities have idiots but the amount of overlap(who here doesn't have more than one gaming platform? Fewer than do I suspect)makes tying any group down hard enough without us just listening to JUST the biggest tools on each.
pc gamers are very annoying.
Nah just the fanboys. Fanboys of any kind are bad. PC fanboys tend to be harshest since they have key bragging points.
Agreed they need to be kicked off their imaginary High horse haha :) PC gaming is dying and there to ignorant to realise it ;)
dont get me wrong. i have a nice pc and i love it. i dont game on it as much as my ps3. im just sick of pc elitists. more annoying than console fanboys imo
@heartnet lol your comment will make the elitist's enrage and break there £5000 machine.
So you'd like DRM on your games ? I guess its alright for Ubisoft to let me play my AC2 only when I have an internet connection.
@Warpussy69 or whatever ROFLMAO you just proved it that console gamers are whiners. First whining of the day started by u. WTF hahahahahahah But seriously I guess its just u and ur friends whining all over the net and making everyone look bad. Or maybe u dont have friends and its just u all over the net.
can we all just get along and play some games. pc has made the battlefield franchise what it is today....why shouldnt we get a better version. the bad company games have nearly been equal aside from graphics and servers. pc gamers do deserve to have there hardware used properly by 3rd party devs. i say dice. if we pc gamers have the real next gen hardware then good on you for using it to make amazing games. if the console is restricted then go and do your best on there aswell. no one can blame you for your console work. MS&SNY made there consoles limeted not you.
Dude they have to learn to adapt to the Console hardware there given moreso than PC as that is where A LARGE majoity of sales will come in.. You cant make excuses for any developer making a bad console port.. end off.. A good dev.. any dev.. shud start of knowing the hardware restrictions so :) Theres a reason ur on 1 bubble... Troll
@Heartnet A good developer can create an engine that can scale over a large amount of hardware. It has nothing to do with hardware limitations and more to do with how they set up the graphics pipeline. You can have a truly beautiful game on a PC but if you have a 3+ year old PC and try to play the cutting edge youre going to have to settle for low settings, same goes for consoles. You have older hardware and therefore you have no reason to expect anything else than the lowest possible settings. If you want to see something that is pushing PC hardware along you could go to the mod scene and find stuff like this: http://www.moddb.com/mods/p... (shameless plug) ;) Also Fakefactorys cinematic mod is a stunning remake of Half-life 2 and the two episodes. Just my two cents :)
this ... is very true. PC elitists love to shove down anything non PC gamers throats. In fact, this is getting ridiculous only a handful o people are complaining with no reason. The ones that are complaining with reason point out that multiplats still cannot master the PS3 or 360 for that matter. This is true, and PC elitist think otherwise.
Exactly, can anyone remember what happened with crysis 2?
I own all three consoles...and I still say yes. All I've heard is a bunch of whining about this game. Not to say PC gamers can't be just as bad (they can be).
"Are Console Gamers Whining Brats?" Why are you trying to label a large group of people that uve never met? Unbelievable. Some dumbass little group on the Internet whine about the PS3 version of BF3 not being on par with the PC version...then all of a sudden ALL console gamers are whining brats. You sound like my parents. When I RARELY forget to turn off the oven, all of a sudden, I'm ALWAYS screwing up lol.
It's just the title. Try reading a little further into it. But hey I guess this is N4G. People commenting on a simple title shouldn't surprise me too much. Can't wait for the double digit disagrees.
With a title like that, it doesn't DESERVE to be read. The douche that used the flamebait title is just as bad as the people who comment on it without reading it. Don't try to defend this jackass.
No it's not just a title. I'm tired of misleading titles for hits. People have a right to comment on just the title. If you don't want people to comment on a title alone don't write titles that target an entire group especially when you're intentions is to target "some" of the group.
You two are pretty dense. he posited a question and moved on to different ideas. Seriously, ya'll are some real sensitive Nancies to get your panties bunched up that quick. I don't accept "waaaaah!" as an argument.
-Move on to idea one -Move on to idea two -Move on to idea three Ah yes, I understand your point now HardCover. Thank you for explaining it to me. /s
@ hardcover. Actually, I think you're the one that looks like an idiot. Let me write an article entitled, "I hate non-gamers", then my article will state I hate this one kid, billy, who happens to be a non-gamer and is angered about something that doesn't bother me, or any other non-gamers. It's called generalizing and it's a sign of poor writing. It's like me saying that anyone with the name "hard" in their name is an idiot, when in reality, I am only focusing on you.
Sorry to read that...
This is the NUMBER 1 reason why I miss the last gen. Last gen we cared about the GAMES, we cared about whether they would turn out good. Now, all we care about is graphics, textures, frame rate, ugh. No offense, but with all this focus on graphics, did they remember to make a good game, with a decent plot? Or is the graphics the only reason I should play this game.
If you're a PC gamer- Ever heard of graphics wars? Those WERE last gen... the closer we get to photorealism in games, the less people will care about these things, it's already happening as we reach the part of the gaming cycle where we begin to concentrate on story yet again. Either you're out of touch, or idolizing the era in which Crysis was considered THE game to have. If you're a console gamer- Graphics aren't at the stage of being photorealistic for another cycle (cycle and a half to optimize the true potential of the next-gensystems) , thus people will be unsatisfied with an experience that's illusion of reality is slightly thrown off by imperfect framerates and jagged textures. I also believe that you forget which developer you are speaking of here... DICE has always created great games by fabricating in-depth multiplayer experiences (and singleplayer stories, to a lesser extent) by utilizing the latest graphics, sound, and engine-driven environments. They utilize technology to bring a better experience, and SOME people can get caught up thinking that it's the technology that makes the game, when it really enhances the illusion; yet this ignorance isn't as bad as much of the graphics wars in which many great games were scoffed away by the consumer just because they were 'irrelevant' graphically. I'm trying not to generalize the last era to conflict your romanticism of it, I would just like to point out that video games of the last generration were not purely story-based works of art that put technology aside as an enhancement.
All gamers are whiny brats.
yes i totally agree with you
Whiny brats are whiny brats and some of them are gamers.
I could say all forumn users on N4G are generalizing brats... or I could say that Pandamobile, captain-obvious, and palaeomerus are generalizing brats...
You can't label all console gamers as whiny brats just cuz some people b**ched and moan.Then that would be the equivalent to labeling pc gamers as crybabies cuz they get console ports on pc and bi*** that why it wasn't built from the ground up no pun intended my fellow pc gamers just making an example. Maybe you should stop talking out of you're ass and labeling all console player's as whining brats.
Gamers in general this generation have been nothing but whining.
Not really, Wii fans and 360 fans have been silent in comparison or in general period! You and your pals take whining to such a high level you become hostile, belligerent and vengeful. Smearing companies and using slander against companies you've seen as doing ps3 and Sony wrong. Hundreds of ps3 fanboys tracking and trolling 360 articles is nothing more than thought out or brainless attacks disguised as something other than whining. PS3 fans are not disopinted because the ps version of BF3 does not match the PC version, they're mad because PS3 could not shock & awe all shooter fans from COD dazzled by visuals only possible on ps3! resulting in sticking it!!! to activation. PS fans wanted xbox fans to say: look the ps3 can run the game like PC I'm getting it on PS3!! Ever notice the belligerent resentment towards COD MW3? And how it is compared every chance they get?
That is a lot of BS. All the console and PC people and whine and bitch and moan it just takes different situations.360 owners are ignorant, Wii owners are arrogant, PS3 owners over do it and PC gamers are snobs. But they all whine. I listened to 360 owners go on and on about MGS4 not being on their system and jumping and any news that may point in that direction. I have heard Wii owners whine every time you tell them that their system is under powered or childish and PC gamers whine on and on about how consoles are ruining their games or PS3 fans resenting Insomniac going multiplat. Trying to say that one complains or go on or do anything more then anyone else is crap. Just put each console owner in the right situation and they sound like any annoying fanboy out there.Just give their favorite game a bad score and it sets them off. Once had to listen to whole PM from someone how Epic Mickey is greater then every exclusive Sony ever had.Look how the trolls and haters try to put down KZ3 and Infamous 2 at every turn while defending low scoring crap like Homefront, Brink and DNF.You talk about resentment towards COD and MW3. You guys on the 360 jump at any chance to rip our exclusives apart at the sign of any low scores.I listen to it everyday on this site about UC3 being a Gears of War clone or Resistance being a Halo clone. The stupid thing is everyone tries to defend their fanboys by trying to say one isn't as bad as another. But they are all bad.All of them are annoying in their own way and all of them are clingy whiny fans that can't let anything go.Sony fans I admit are more vocal but Microsoft and Nintendo fans stew in their arrogance and ignorance and unleash it in all of it's glory when ever the chance comes up.Stop the pretense.All day I hear about how MW3 looks and not that it seems to just be another dull as dishwater, convoluted,non interactive, cookie cutter shooter that will just increase the amount of glitches they will have to fix.Most gamers are ALL annoying, whiny brats
Seriously, 360 fanboys have been whining about the PS3 before the console was even out. Also pretty sure that the first major whine-fest happened when Oblivion can to the PS3 with slightly better graphics - there was so much complaining about it on the 360 that the devs promised a patch. Nevermind the crapstorm blackburn10 pointed out over MGS4. No one has anything to stand on as far as fanboyism goes - we're all guilty of it. And claiming that you're any better just says that you're worse.
I am whiny about skyrim leading on 360 and not pc! But hey you can't win em all..
95% of all gamers are yes and its annoying
"and its annoying" Quit whining :)
lawlz i see what you did now except i don't cry everytime a game isn't what i expected it is what it is
No,exactly the opposite-95% of gamers would even DREAM of thinking gaming important enough to mention let alone gripe about. I think we're forgetting just how few people actually complain when compared to the many millions well into the hundreds of millions)that own a gaming capable device(and use it)today-it's a TEEENY minority and a minority oh every system's owners will be idiots while, I'm certain, anyone who cares enough about ANY subject CAN come across as whiny IF you hit on the one thing that winds them up. Seriously, there's no big movement of over entitled gamers or we wouldn't put up with the DLC and DRM BS we do just to keep playing games ,in the main, completely without any noise. I'm as p[assionat as the next gamer myself but i don't kid myself that ether the most extreme fanboys we see here, myself or anyone else who bothers enough to chat games on a site is in AY way indicative of the main gaming population. We're more passionate, more clued up(again,in general!!)and thus more likely to be wound up by something because we'll have at least SEEN the issue. MOST of us here were AMAZED that some PS3 owners had moaned at Dice-even here-now if that is the reaction here where I'm told it's PS3 fanboy central just how few of the gamers who don't frequent sites like this are arsed AT ALL? Not many to none at a guess and nothing like 95% of gamers even give a shit about ANYTHING other than the games they themselves play regardless of what any of us think-or anyone else. It's just a fact that the moaners, even if it WERE most of us here, would be a tiny blip on the radar of any platform let alone one as vast and shapeless a description as "console" gamers!
why are only ps3 fans angry? maybe because 360 fans can at least understand that current pc is more powerful than both consoles. seriously.
no, if 360 fans were shown instead of PS3 it would have been the other way around with 360 fans angry. Don't act as if 360 users are better than ps3 users. brats are brats, regardless of system.
Both consoles should be pissed and I am glad this is happening. DICE is back-peddling now that they only kept hyping a PC version. I think a lot of people keep forgeting DICE stated the game will look the same on each platform. I knew right when they said that it was complete bull. PS3 and 360 can't hang with PC power, never have and never will. Yet, that doesn't give DICE the right to make a foolish statement like that, keep hyping the game for the PC, and show sub-par graphics compared to the PC and then have the audacity to insinuate "people really couldn't think it would look as good as the PC" nonsense. This is DICE and EA appearing as sheep in wolves clothing. This game is going to looks and feel VERY similiar to BC2 for consoles, which isn't a terrible thing. It's just an illusion to only show and demo PC footage so all console users start falling in love with something that will never be on their console. It's all marketing and hype to try and steal people from the Call of Duty market. It appears to be back-firing on them now.
Don't generalize ps3 gamers just cuz of the action of a few. The problem is gamers nowadays put too much weight on graphics PC fanboys especially since they alway use it as leverage over console gamers.
Only the ones that use the internet.
Think the internet brings out the worst in people. There is no real consequences online. Be different if someone said it to your face.
come on, don't refer them as "playstation3 gamers", they are ps3 bitches.. i'm a ps3 gamer and i'm extremely impressed with what I saw in the trailer..
No authors are fishing for hits by trying to make a small minority of people appear to be the vast majority. This is what is called "sh*t journalism" lol
Yes. Simple as that.
Yes. Console gamers are whiny little brats. Bow before the superior PC master race. Thank you.
Wow both you and kon above are utterly delusional yes we know pc is superior.But that dosen't make all console players whiners. I'm glad dice took the time to build the game from the ground up for my fellow pc player's and not just a console port like*cough cod cough.*After all pc players made dice what they are today no??