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DICE: Bullsh*t – Why Can't You Take More Time Learning PS3 Hardware

After responding to the complains regarding the PlayStation 3 footage of Battlefield 3 that made its proper debut on the Jimmy Fallon show, DICE has once again addressed a fan’s concern on the developer not taking more time to learn the PlayStation 3 hardware.

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Pandamobile2316d ago

Why do PS3 fans have these ridiculous expectations from this 5 year old system?

The PS3 footage looked fine for a console game.

Shaman2316d ago

Agreed!
Has anyone seen their tech papers on PS3?What they are doing on it?Lighting,deferred shading(only guys doing it on SPUs),MLAA and occlusion culling.Whats the problem?Is KZ3 or UC3 as interactive as BF3 is?Nope.Is there as many explosions,destruction and overall mayham in MP?Nope.So shut up,because alot of people worked extremely hard just to bring you the game that is DX11,next gen PC pusher,on your console thats 5 years old.

ProjectVulcan2316d ago

Maybe they should suggest to complainers that if they want better looking games on an aging system they release a firmware update that forces an overclock on their console. Course this would mean that most everyone's machines would fail and overheat. Still, for the few that didn't, the game would look a tiny bit better.

In other words, you have aging fixed hardware. Deal with it.

joydestroy2316d ago

yeah i think if they have a problem with it then they need to cough up some real dough and get a high end rig. simple as that

solideagle12316d ago

first of all PS3 is not a super computer. second as Shaman said there are more things in game rather just graphics....so its an approach how a game designer/developer take it.
thanks

captain-obvious2316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

i think they are actually PUSHING the PS3 to its limit
they have said alot of times they are utilizing the cell's SPU's

that's why they showed the PS3 footage
maybe they are more confident with that version of the game

and thats what are you guys getting
your hardware's limit

now i know there is alot of first party studios that make nice graphics games with big numbers of players count

but THATS THEIR JOB
they have to since Sony gives them shit loads of money to do so
and they got 1 console to focus and work on

BF3 is (right now) going on 4 platforms all of that using new engine that's may not be utilized YET

they have to do ALL of this
and the game is coming out in 4 months from now

its not easy you guys need to understand

they dont have the luxury of time since they are working on a multiplat game with a new engine
AND wasting all the resources on the only ONE platform is not a great business decision

and with dice im sure they are doing thier best to give you WHAT YOUR console can do best

so just simply
chill the F out

HungPHATx2316d ago

It look like I thought it would ! A high polished BFBC 2 with better lighting , better destructible envieroment and good smoke effects ! Looks really good for alpha build and can't wait to get it for my PS3 this fall

disturbing_flame2316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

I think this sentence is exagerated.

99% of PS3 owners are really enjoying that the first gameplay of BF3 on console has been showed on the PS3 exclusively.

This article is oriented, it just makes a headline from something that is clearly limited to one or two opinions.
Everyone is slamming DICE ? Come on that just ridiculous.
Everyone is clearly enjoying the fact that EA is still behind PS3, that's the reality. I think PS3 users loves EA, and EA know that they are doing great business with this platform.

Every PS3 user loves EA putting Dead Space Extraction in Dead Space 2 only for PS3.
And every PS3 user will love EA putting Battlefield 1943 in BF3 only for PS3.

So this article is a joke (can we say it's an article either, it just looks so unintelligent) , it takes random shit on twitter, making a poor headline just to fool people.
Don't forget that this article is written by a person and what is written is just his opinion, and it is far from reality...

And WTF is this : Gaming Media ?
It just looks like garbage.

PS3 users love DICE.

HS832316d ago

My God Shaman you by far have made the most sense then every idiot complaining about BF3 graphic wise. I 100% agree with you. Well said Sir! Well said!

morganfell2316d ago

First of all stating that "PS3 fans", as if all of them are complaining, are just the words of a desperate person taking the opportunity to attack PS3 fans in general.

Most PS3 fans are quite satisfied with the state of the game because:

A: It looks damn good and the environmental destruction is outstanding.

B: Second, the fact that Dice chose to reveal the first console footage on the PS3, when they wanted to wow the audience in general and the console audience in particular, should tell you which console version is faring the best.

PS3 fans have been consistently treated to great looking titles this generation. It isn't all about resolution. You won't find better lighting than on the PS3. I cut my teeth on the PC decades ago and I love PC gaming. But for the console experience, the PS3 shows it can still deliver.

PS3 gamers could have a field day generalizing and lumping PC gamers into a single pile. That is what is being done to PS3 gamers in this case. Some of us are both PC and PS3 gamers and realize this is a small handful of people complaining and they will always complain.

What is driving a great deal of this is history. The history is that companies have relentless developed PS3/360 games to be as close together as possible. This is done for marketing reasons and the fear of alienating a demographic. Companies didn't give to craps last generation about disparity in console versions and PS3 gamers simply ask the same treatment this generation as well.

spektical2316d ago

idk, until i see uncharted 2/killzone2/3, GOW3, infamous 2 quality from multiplatforms, then they have a point. till then its just a product of it being multi plat.

idk why PC elitists don't get this. U2 looks miles ahead of BF3, and its a 2 year old game.

DragonKnight2316d ago

Without commenting one way or the other on footage I haven't seen, there is one thing I would like to address.

I like how they completely avoided what the "fan" said. By saying "bullshit" it's like they said BF3 can't look as good as KZ3 or UC3 or that they can't take more time to learn PS3 programming.

People may be fine with the footage, but DICE doesn't look so great by indirectly admitting they can't make the game look better.

Again, that's just my take on the response, not the game. I have no opinion of the footage as I have not seen it.

lil Titan2316d ago

PS3 users just want the same thing PC users are getting and PS3 users know they can get that if the developers learn the hardware a little more but im still getting the game regardless. Dice did a good job from what they knew and its still gonna be the best FPS out this fall

I_find_it_funny2315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

Killzone 3 is gorgeous but it doesn't have advanced destruction and multiple vehicles at the same time.

Some peope are just clueless idiots, I feel ashamed by this news somehow, I literally can't believe this.

@lil Titan, pls don't generalise "PS3 users" it's some idiots on twitter and in the comments on BF blog, that's all.

MOST PS3 gamers are fine with with they saw, so please don't generalise.

@spektical , once again for slow people VEHICLES and DESTRUCTION, you may not realise but it takes RESOURCES that can be used to create better visuals.

/edit: Look at Call of Duty, it doesn't have destruction, it doesn't have vehicles, it doesn't have big maps and still looks worse. Be reasonable and Give DICE a break already.

Ju2315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

There are some with a brain in here, and I agree the ones complaining are not part of that group.

For me BF3 looks phenomenal on the PS3. I did not expect it to be that close to the PC footage. IMO it is very close. We have only seen a microscopic preview of the final game and yet people go on a rampage against that game. I smell FUD here. Big time - before the PS3 footage was shown, those articles were coming; but with a different topic.

Are you guys insane? Will some of you ever be happy?

For me, this game might as well look as good as KZ3 or UC2. Can we please reserve judgement until the game finally hits the market before we bury it?

For those who think that Dice does not understand how to code for the PS3: don't bother reading their tech docs. Those will be over your head anyways. /rant.

DeadlyFire2315d ago

I don't see why all the skepticism. PS3 still gets a quality version of the game. Graphics are not bad at all. The physics are still fully in the game. The vehicles are still in the game. So you should be happy.

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Focker4202316d ago

I really don't know who is complaining, I thought all of the footage looked great. Especially for a multi-plat. People are complaining about a 5 minute clip that they got off-screen footage of. Some people must cry and moan about every tiny thing.

NegativeCreep4272316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

and it isn't quite that time to reasonably think that the Playstation 3 has reached its limit in the technical department.

Pandamobile2316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

Are you kidding? There's only so much you can pump out of a 6 year old GPU and Cell CPU with 256 MB of RAM.

The PS3's GPU is a modified Geforce 7800, which was the recommended graphics card for Battlefield 2!

That 10 year life cycle means that Sony will continue to support the PS3 after the PS4 comes out like they did with the PS2. That has nothing to do with the amount of computing power that thing has.

socomnick2316d ago

ps3s gpu was outdated the moment it released.

:/ instead of complaining they need to do what I plan on doing, building a new gaming rig and leaving the weak console gaming behind.

DualConsoleOwner2316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

First of all, it has 512 mb blazing fast ram, but split which makes it hard to program for.

As for graphics card, this is where cell comes in and unload work from GPU.

PC cant do this, so specs on PC has nothing to do with PS3.

If PS3 is being fully utilize as you say, why doesnt it look like top PS3 exclusive??

stop speaking out of your arse.

heroicjanitor2316d ago

The Pc gamers are in in force anyway, going on about GPUs as if that is supposed to be the ps3's strength :/ It has a different architecture to pc and uncharted 3 still looks great.

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baodeus2315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

@dualconsoleowner

then perhaps you should give a list comparing ps3 1st party games to BF3. Heck how about comparing any ps3 exclusive to Resident Evil 5 for example.

1. scale (open/scripted open/straight up linear)
2. texture
3. lighting
4. tech behind these game
5. destructible/interactive environment
6. AA
7. polygon
8. amount of things on screen.
9. frame rate.

something like that would sufficient. Just looking alone doesn't say anything. I'm thinking u might be mistaken for artistic aspect, which has nothing to do with technological aspect of a game.

@kudakadere

" they should demonstrations of their engine using ps3 cores to the max",

i guess u haven't read about DICE utilizing everything there is from Cell for BF3? U should look up on it.

Then again, all developers have been complaining about RAM limitation on consoles for a while now. They did everything they could just to save a couple of RAM if you guys read carefully on tech discussion, especially BF3.

Are you guys gonna not read and just keep calling foul when u don't know a dam thing about game development?

Arnon2315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

Wrong. The PS3 has 256 MB of regular GDDR3 RAM (less than my 5 year old GPU), and 256 MB of XDR RAM. XDR, while being fast, is still 256 MB, so when you honestly think about it, what does it matter? Having "blazing fast memory" of only 256 MB isn't going to do much for you.

As for the PC not being able to "do" things the PS3 can't, that's false. You act as if unloading some of the work from the GPU to the CPU is trademarked by Sony. Not to mention, the PC doesn't NEED to do this. The only reason the PS3 does this is because it hits a bottleneck so quickly due to it's outdated hardware.

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theonlylolking2316d ago

These peeps just think the power of the cell can do everything that can match a gaming PC. When I saw it for the first time I was amazed on how good it actually looked. It did not look nearly as good as the PC version of BF3 but it looked really great. I think it is a huge step up from bad company 2 and peeps should not be complaining.

@Shaman Very true. I now wonder if DICE could outdo naughty dog in the graphics on PS3 if they made maps like uncharted and without destruction.

@lazertroy
How is the 360 holding back the PS3? The PS3 has no more power left in it to use. The 360 was worn out in 2009 and in 2011 the PS3 has been worn out. It is time for the next gen.

RayRay362316d ago

ND will never make a multiplayer experince as far as graphics that compare to Dice. But ND annihilates Dice in the singleplayer department, graphics included. I garuntee Uncharted 4 and & Killzone 4 look better than their predecessors. Just because we're not making quantum leaps doesnt mean its time for the next gen. I think 2014 or 2015 is when that should arise. Sonys ten year plan is excellent. 8 years for the PS3 & 2 years for people to convert.

Shaman2316d ago

Well,we will see if 360 is worn out with BF3(according to some new tweets from Cristina Coffin they are exactly the same,running at exactly the same res).Anyway,people HUGELY underestimated Xenos gpu.Unified shaders in closed box gave 360 ALOT of headroom.PS3 is definitely more powerful,but 360 is definitely much more efficient and thats why 360 version of BF3 will look very similar,and they are pushing both of them to their limits.

RayRay362316d ago

Can someone give me a reason for the disagrees?

madjedi2315d ago

@rayray36 Yeah uncharted 3 might look better( haven't played either so can't say), but the problem is there is alot more going on in bf3, than uc3.

They are different types of games, so to say one has better graphics than the other without taking into accout the concessions made for the destructibilty of the levels is slighting bf 3 unfairly.

I don't care which looks better really, they both look great and i must own each for their kickass graphics and gameplay and each ones unique experience.

@major pc guys like panda, what kinda power would you need to take an open world game like infamous or fallout(even harder to due) and apply a destruction ability like the bf series to all buildings and structures?

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dragonyght2316d ago

lol what make you think it was the PS3 fans complaining about the footage shown.

i mean if it was that case their reaction would have been totally different like Killzone 2/3 look better or uncharted still holding graphical crown or GOD murder bf3

anyway if that was the case n4g would have gone down in flame just saying

kudakadere2316d ago

I agree , the game looked great but the problem is how they should demonstrations of their engine using ps3 cores to the max , but now it's said to look the same as the 360 . They didn't want to throw a match on the flame war . People must understand the budget they had too.

showtimefolks2316d ago

i am still planning on getting it for ps3 nothing that i have seen has made me change my mind.

As a console only gamer i don't expect console games to look as good as a high tech pc but ps3 exclusive's have done a very nice job of pushing the tech

and xbox360's exclusives have pushed its boundaries

dice can only do so much with the hardware

they are working on 3 machines unlike many exclusive studios who have to work on one

xTruthx2316d ago

The guy who wrote this article is a joke

Tank_Commander_E62316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

Did anyone here watch the broadcast live in HD? It looks much better than the youtube compressed crap even in 1080.

The more of the PS3 demo that I watch the more details I pick up on and impressed by how much work DICE has put into this game. Please stop comparing it to the PC version and start comparing it with other console multiplats and you'll see just how beautiful this game really is.

J_Cob2315d ago

I saw it when the footage was broadcast on TV. It looked alright. The main problem was texture streaming. If go back and look some of the objects in game they're blurry. Check it out. A lot of games have this problem though. I'm assuming since it's still not done it'll be fixed towards release. Even LA Noire, a once PS3 exclusive, had this problem. They released a patch to help. BF3 will look good. We just have to wait till it's done.

Dart892316d ago

Plus they said to wait for the Alpha stage demo this is pre-alpha.

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2fk2316d ago

exactly i think BF3 is one of the best looking shooters on consoles hands down PLUS remeber this is PRE ALPHA guys it will be more polished by the release date.....be optimistic but don't over-hype only to be disappointed if u think it will compare too PC...ALSO

gameplay > graphics

Ness-Psi2316d ago

I dont know what all the fuss was about i thought it look excellent on PS3 and it aint even the finished article.

zeal0us2316d ago

Hope the 360 audience respond better and don't have some high expectation. Me personally I don't care how the game look on the 360 long as I get to play it.

In time ppl will get over and move on to the next big thing to argue about, who knows lulsec might n4g and we won't be discussing anything.

TripleAAARating2315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

"Hope the 360 audience respond better and don't have some high expectation"

lol... they can't

the only 360 fans that might have high expectations are delusional ones.

PR0X12315d ago

360 has better gpu than ps3 has... you know that thingy that makes the graphics look shiny?

Both ps3 and 360 are pieces of crap hardware wise in 2011. It's not 2005 any more people.

NateCole2316d ago

Why do some PS3 fans you mean?.

lve2playbball2316d ago

@ lil titan

Once again, PS3 owners cannot get the same thing high end PC owners will get. We will get a good game, but don't kid yourself, it doesn't matter how well the developers know the PS3--you can't compensate for 5 year old hardware and magically make it appear DX11.

Sony3602316d ago

Another thing that could be said is if you want developers to learn your hardware, don't give it a tediously designed fucking architecture.

madjedi2315d ago

Now are you referring to the hardware itself or parallel processing? Because last i heard, parallel processing is better than regular computing, just requires more alot coding to get better results.

Has the pc market it's software at least switched to parallel processing yet or is adoption on it still sluggish?

Sony3602315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

The PC market is on something called "quad core" processing which is becoming a thing of the past already, look it up.

Parallel processing was outdone when dual-core processors were about.

joab7772316d ago

I agree w u, it looks really good and it will never look like the PC. And I'm happy they aren't dumbing down the PC because it helps the brand overall. But peoples complaints are due to years of let downs. After we have seen what k3 & u3 can do, we dont but it anymore. We have to wait for release, but a recent example is crysis 2. It didn't even run at 720 &couldn't b upscaled properly. The lighting was great but the overall graphics didn't outshine in-house studios. Yeah, they do have an advantage, & its much harder to spend as much time w three systems, but we have come to expect the best. This is most likely because games tout their new tech. I'm still in the camp that believes that this new dice engine is going to shine on ps3 in many ways, not simply graphics. But i love the debate because when mw3 releases, ppl will have something to truely b upset about, and b3 will begin to look so damn good on consoles. And give dice some frigging credit, its using the ps3 as lead console. All we got from code was shitty ports. And i don't ever wanna see someone who was bitching on another thread defending cod as they didn't even think a new engine was in order.

RBLAZE19882316d ago

This kind of shit makes me want to hide the fact that I play videogames...this is uncalled for and rediculous. Some people are just detached from reality.

tplarkin72315d ago

Jack Tretton would disagree.

Regarding PS3 he said, "And technologically, I don’t think it’s possible to provide any advancement beyond what we have."

http://nexus404.com/Blog/20...

dcbronco2315d ago

After the financial meltdown, many analyst claimed that executives lied to them during interviews. This is another one of those situations. Just think for a minute all of the times we've been told something wasn't in development. Only to get an announcement later on. All of the current consoles are badly outdated. They may have more power to give. But they will never hit the ability of technology readily available now. Let alone the technology available when the Wii U releases next year.

Technology has changed tremendously since the current consoles were released. All of the parts are at least 6 years old. 6 year old CPUs can't compete with an i7. The Vita has a 4 core CPU and the GPU is capable of having as many as 16 cores. The current consoles are old.

Congratulations Sony. You don't spend much on advertising. But you are definitely successful with what you do on the PR front.

hassi942315d ago

I know! Find a game on PS3 with the same scope (and I mean playable scope not background mountains), physics capabilities (destruction 2.0), graphics, vehicles (including jet planes, tanks, helicopters and boats) and 32 player online. Doesn't exist? Didn't think so - nothing even compares. DICE have done a brilliant job on it, they are limited by PS3/X360 hardware - they're not just being lazy.

Also - love how the tweeter thinks that 'UN2' stands for Uncharted 2...

madjedi2315d ago

Kinda stupid point really since only 2 series have any relevant destruction in them the bf/bfbc and red factions.

And why all the dumbass articles the last 2 or 3 days about bf3 on the ps3, did they show off a new trailer and it look horrible or something, if it looks anything like the gameplay trailer(faultline) i downloaded i fail to see the problem really.

Destruction 2.0 yuck really a trophy not worth attempting, but i am guessing that's the name of their destruction engine/a part of their engine.

When was the beta again?

hassi942315d ago

I did say physics capabilities - doesn't have to be destruction but any physics that is on par (interactive real time etc).

It's from that gameplay trailer, loads of people are saying it looks really 'bad' because it's not as good looking as the PC version, tbh it still looks brilliant.

And yeah destruction 2.0 is the name of their destruction engine (Destruction was BF:BC and Destruction 1.5 was BF:BC2 I believe).

And I believe they said there'll be an open beta in September.

Aloren2315d ago

It's not PS3 fans, it's PS3 fanboys !! ;)

TBM2315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

I'm buying the special edition for my PS3. From what I saw I think it looks outstanding. I've not once complained about what a game looks like on all 3 of my consoles this gen as I've have better things to worry about.

I do find it funny how ppl are saying those complaining should get a high end pc rig, personally I could never get into playing on a pc which I've tried on several occasions. I just find it more comfortable gaming on a home console.

hassi942315d ago

In reply to your second paragraph: That's fair enough if you can't get into it - but you weren't complaining about the graphics. What people are saying is if you care about graphics so much then get a PC or shut up...

If you're happy with what it is (any sensible person would see the graphics are great) then by all means keep playing PS3/X360.

TBM2315d ago

@hassi

Im no fool and I know that pc gives you to top of the line graphics, but I think both HD consoles are doing just fine imo.

subtenko2315d ago

Cause we are Playstation fans. We have become spoiled by Sony's first party greatness to the point where some people (like this isolated angry fan) is expecting it with 3rd party titles for some reason...

He's just a hardcore spoiled sony fan is all.lol you never hear of xbox fan complaining about this kinda stuff xD

DICE isnt 1st party and it isnt like they are being THAT lazy to the point where its like "wtf...lazy people" *cough* valve *cough* (but not anymore, finally)

death2smoochie2315d ago

I have just read through most of the comments on this thread Pandamobile and It's amazing how many actually think the these consoles could manage [email protected] in this game....
Then you have others stating MAG, RFOM, WipeoutHD and other game etc....

Here is a reality check for those people:

99% OF THE PS3's AND Xbox360's GAME LIBRARY runs in [email protected] or lower.
ANY game running at [email protected]+FPS ON THESE AGING CONSOLES ARE either PSN or XBL games or a game with little to no graphic quality OR has linear game play with no interaction with the environment AT ALL.

KZ3, Uncharted 3, God of War 3, Gears of War 3 and the rest of the "heavy hitting" console games WITH IMPRESSIVE GRAPHICS, DO NOT HAVE A FULLY DYNAMIC DESTRUCTIBLE ENVIRONMENT with ALL REAL TIME EFFECTS AND LIGHTING. None of those games do. All those games use "hacks" or "tricks" or other "optimizations" to get around its hardware limitations.
IE: NAO32, LDR, MLAA, Lower resolutions. No dynamic environments. Linear Scale. Low Floating Point for effects etc.

The games mentioned ABOVE have almost ALL pre-calculated effects and lighting with no DYNAMIC REAL TIME destruction.
Lets not even MENTION the sheer level of Vehicle use BF3 enables on a MAP size 10 times the size of those games I mentioned above.

These consoles simply cannot play this type of game the way a modern PC can. It does not have the power, bandwidth, memory size, GPU/CPU that supports advanced features to pull this off.
You people are asking these consoles to perform tasks it mathematically and technologically cannot perform under any circumstances. You are actually giving these consoles too much credit.
5 year technology is 5 year technology. Get use to it: Sony and MS developers have. Why can't you people?

To put the rubber to the road:

No DX11 Support which is one of the biggest reasons.
No Support for Shader Model 5.0 let alone 4.0+
(if you people who are bitching that the console version of BF3 should be the same as the PC VERSION knew what benefits Shader Model 4.0 and above HAS OVER SHADER MODEL 3.0, you would have saved braincells in your posting and not be whining about this to DICE)

To quickly sum up why these consoles WILL never match a PC this generation WHEN A game is finally developed on the pc FIRST with its technology utilized and not gimped by console versions. ALL CONSOLES.
Here it is...and To be honest. DICE/EA should not have to explain this to people. It's common sense as to why these consoles are aging AND can't run a game like BF3 as a PC:

1) No support for Advanced Tessellation
2) No support for compute shader technology
3) No support for higher FP HDR Running in Real Time
4) No support for HLSL Shader Model 5.0 (LET ALONE 4.0)
5) No support for Advanced Dynamic Linking
6) No double-precision support, which allows programmers to tackle shader specialization with polymorphism, objects, and interfaces.

I could go on but the truth of the matte is simply this:

consoles are 5+ years old with dated CPU/GPU's with only 512 megs of total system memory. A $130 mid-range GPU out now has more bandwidth on that card than the entire PS3 or Xbox360 console.
So you get the picture why DICE/EA is saying what they are saying...
and please for all that is holy, do not bring up MAG, RFOM or WipeoutHD or any of those games.

Persistantthug2315d ago

NO Playstation of any type has had DIRECTX of any kind.

death2smoochie2315d ago

Its opengl equivalent does not support any of those features either
(Open GL1.0-2.0 for the PS3)

dcbronco2315d ago

Ken Kutaragi really did a number on Sony fanboys. Many of them never thought nothing would ever eclipse the PS3 or if it did it would be 10 years or more later. Welcome back to reality guys. Many might commit suicide when the Wii U crushes all current consoles.

Just being realistic. Technology doesn't live in the past.

bilbobob2315d ago

but then something will come along to crush the Wii U. Your comment makes no sense. Technology moves on. It wont stop at the Wii U.

dcbronco2315d ago

Of course it doesn't make sense to you. Technology moving on was exactly my point. PS3 fans seem to believe that the PS3 being the most powerful console was going to be the case forever. Strictly because Sony said so. The PS3 was the most powerful gaming machine for all of a few months. And then PC hardware advanced and overtook the consoles again. And that has been the case since late 2006. The only advantage consoles have is that they are made of parts designed o work together. Machine specific. PCs have to work with many different parts and that holds them back. Which is why you get the "Plays best on" labels.

Silly Billobob.

Man In Black2315d ago

If the game looked much worse than it should due to developer laziness (Mafia 2, Bayonetta, etc), then I'd understand. But the footage I've seen looks great. Sure, nowhere near the level of the PC version, but I think DICE have done extremely well with porting a PC game over to a console.

50Terabytespersec2315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

WTH is all this??
over a FPS??
Native PC game??
Please!!
I read people squabbling about PS3 exclusives versus BF3 !! Are you guys all smoking crack??
The only Game that matches a PC pound for pound is GT5 Prologue at 1080p.
This is a 5 year old console versus a modern supper 400 dollar Video Card.
what i said stands, BF3 PC ,brought a sense of awe i got when i first saw GT5 Prologue on my 1080p Bravia.
PHOTO REALISM!!
*notice i didn't mention GT5(it is a mess a failure a blurry QQAA, visually compromised game,shame on Polyphony for adding more cars and lowiring visuals!!!!!! SHAME!!)
No 3d =Sprite Pixel crowds!!!!!)
PS3 can achieve BF3 but at certain cost!!!

Get the PC version !! and Play exclusives lesson learned!!!
(also if nextgen keeps doing this PC port BS!!! everyone just buy a console for 2 years then get cheap PC card and dump console. Play all PC games on 1080p settings with massive RAM gains etc .
Piratbay optional lmao

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Surfaced2316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

People need to calm down. It looks great. Not PC great, but still excellent for the product of 5-year-old hardware.

I guess some people were spoiled by the PC footage?

It's fair this way, too. To achieve that idealized PC image quality, I'll need to spend a few hundred bucks upgrading my rig just to pump out a steady 30 frames per second.

Or, you can buy a PS3 and the BF3 game for half that money, and get a perfectly playable experience without any hitches.

kevnb2316d ago

to achieve what you have on ps3, any gaming rig would easily do... even with outdated hardware. To completely demolish the ps3 version, you would need probably a $80 video card. For max graphics, probably about $200-$250. People seem to forget pc gaming is scalable, and doesnt have to be expensive. PS3 is using a 7800 video card, and get performance similar to an 8800 at times thanks to coding direct to the metal. In 2011 though, who games on less than an 8800 on pc?