Has Microsoft Turned a Corner in its Bid to Sell in Japan? Gameplayer's experiences at the Tokyo Game Show followed by the improved perception of the X360 in local press would suggest so. "Fans of Sakaguchi assembled to gawp at him, poor chap."
Selling 1,000-3,000 units a week is progress? The media can really spin anything, can't they?
Better than nothing. Regardless, that is still pathetic.
it will probably drops back to 1000ish per week next week, just like a few weeks before
You know, all this "Xbox 360 is dead in Japan" talk really really gets under my skin. In JAPAN, the Xbox 360 is selling, roughly 2:1 with the PS3. Japan has bought less than 2.5M total between the two. A relatively insignificant number. Meanwhile, in N.America, the Xbox 360 has sold 8.16M(!), roughly 4:1 with the PS3. Here, in N.America, the total is over 10 Million machines. In the rest of the world, Xbox 360 is outselling PS3 about 2:1. The "rest of the world" is actually a Bigger Market than Japan(!). All this "Xbox 360 is dead in Japan" talk is wrong. The Xbox 360 is doing BETTER in Japan than the PS3 is doing in America. And, America is the market that CLEARLY the market "that matters". They are going to set the tone. Bbased on software sales (as we know the Xbox 360 is outselling Wii + PS3), the Xbox 360 is dominating the global marketplace. Anyone who says "Xbox 360 is dead in Japan", or "LOL! Japan don't like no Xbox 360!!1!!" needs to STFU. It is *MORE* True that the PS3 is dead in North America. And North America clearly matters a fcuk of a lot more than Japan*. And all the Fanboy "Haha! Xbox Japan! Haha!" losers can bet that the DEVELOPERS damn well know I'm exactly correct. *Japan seems to have turned and gone casual, the DS & Wii arent the same market. For the purpose of this conversation, these are VGChartz numbers -- I do know they arent as reliable as NPD, but they are only inaccurate in teh "current" month, but corrected when the NDP arrive... and, are close enough for the purpose of this conversation. 0.47M Japan 8.16M America 4.12M Others 1.25M Japan 2.20M America 1.92M Others
You didn't factor in how the 360 was out 1 year earlier than the ps3, so the sales gap is signifcant on the basis that the ps3 has outsold the 360 in Japan in just a few months.
Canned fanboy response.
like yours aren't the canned fanboy responses? typical anti 360 every single time.
This from the x-box equivalent of nasim. Pot Kettle Black... 3 Bubbles to go!
This story is stupid, it has only gained momentum because of Halo 3, which gave it a little boost. I doubt this will last long.
ps3 sold between 160k---120k in USA between JULY and SEPTEMBER. x360 sells at best 10k per month in JAPAN and 20k in EUROPE . so which is dead ? in NA ps3 is not doing very well . But x360 is simply dead in EU and JAPAN
Whatever nasim. You know that the 360 sells more than 20k in EU. You were the one that submitted the VG charts for LAST WEEK and it sold over 38k accourding to them. And that was on a week where the PS3 dropped to 400 euros, the 360 still did 38k. Has it been so long since you submitted that story that you can't remember? Or do you just like distorting facts?
You're not very good at math or logic. The 360 was out an entire year before the PS3. Since the PS3 has been out in Japan, it has outsold the 360 a minimum of 4 to 1 on the 360's best weeks... although most weeks it has been an average of 12 to 1! So yes, the 360 is dead in Japan. Comparatively, with the exception of September, the 360 only managed to outsell the PS3 more than 1.5 to 1 two times in North America. So no, the PS3 is not dead in NA. And of course, the PS3 continues to outsell the 360 in Europe.
All the while the real winner is Nintendo - but no one wants to talk about that..
many can play that game
Better than nothing right?
How poor the PS3 sell in the USA AND these softwear numbers for the PS3.........WOW!!!! Xbox 360: hardware to software ratio: 6.59 (hardware total sold = 6.8 million; software total sold = 44.8 million) PlayStation 3: hardware to software ratio: 3.58 (hardware total sold = 1.9 million; software total sold = 6.8 million) Wii: hardware to software ratio: 3.44 (hardware total sold = 4.5 million; software total sold = 15.5 million) 44 million to 6 million CRYB3YOND hahahahahahahhah and I own the 60gb Crap box
HAHAHA you let it get under your skin. Wow dude get a life. Hey, the 360 is dead in Japan. Go cut yourself. Only fanboys care about sells numbers
Lawlz. Lost Odyssey has a bigger potential to sell software + hardware.
But, xbox 360 ahs been out for 2 years in Japan... Ps3 hasn't even been out a year. your theory is so wrong the holes you've dug could swallow planets the size of Jupiter and the one you're from... El-Slop Donga. It's a good thing you're not an analyst, Timmy. Ps3 hasn't been released world wide for a year... It didn't even release in the U.K. until March of this year, Snorkson. you kill me. You really do... Sad, actually. Feel bad without out of touch you are.
Hey, you want to _really_ lawl? Read 1.3 above.
Okay, the 360 has been out two years and the PS3 for one year. So what, Japan is the PS3s home country. Everytime someone tries to compare the 360 sells to the PS3, you boneheads bring up the 2yr - 1yr excuse. Okay, lets put it this way which console has sold the most hardware in 2007 alone. This should put them both on even playing fields. Besides, what's the PS3s excuse versus the wii? Let me guess, (whaa whaa whaa) the wii is for the casual gamer and there is more of them. STFU! Sony fanboys! You guys make me sick, you're like a bunch of immature little girls. Go ahead take my bubbles, that's what you do best! Because your debating skills are weak as HELL!
Momentum is building? Are they on crack? That is like saying when people commit suicide by jumping off a high rise they are building up speed.
if it is the japanese dont know about it yet
Ah, it smells so good... Wait? Its gone! Where did it go?
i know I'm supposed to laugh at my own time but.........hahahahaha that was funny. now where's that bubble adding button
"Momentum is Building for the Xbox 360 in Japan" COMEDY 2yrs later and not even 1 million consoles sold. That momentum is really building.
these articles crack me up. Its gaining momentum, I guess that means they have seen 360 advertisements on the side of trains as they are leaving the stations. Thats the only way you'll see a 360 gaining anything over there.
Are you daft or something? The 360 is at like what, 15 million units now. Get a grip
like 11 and they just passed 500,000 in Japan after two years. Go back to your crib noob, grown ups are talking.
This is one of those "joke posts" right? .. Had me goin there..
Its true, I smelt it! I breathed in the scent of progress... only, now its gone. Dammit, it smelt so delighful too!
not even a million sold in japan haaaaaaaaa
OOOOOOOOK ps3 you win hahahahahahah. I don't get it they don't like 360's GOW because it's to violent.......but they like MGS,DMC and RE because they are..............what???
They are better than GoW.
american games are typical run and gun shoot em up type of games. gears has a weak story and the gameplay is overhyped. it just has good graphics and variety in enimies
Check out some of their anime...lol.
if you gave them a sandwich with a american stamp on it they would feed it to the fishies and eat the japanese fishies. BY THE WAY THOSE FRANCHISES HAVE GONE MULTIPLATFORM.
the jap pps are doing what whtie encomy has been doing for a while even do i know the ps3 is nothing and yes im a 360fan the japs are doing what Caucasians have been doing for years supporting no 1 but each other (E.U/European union)not to sound racist cause im not .but all i know is that the japs will not succeed as foreign games sell wayyyyyyyyyyy more than jap games and if there is biased so visible ull notice u.s game company acting lie th ejap devs ( already happend epic gears of war exvclusive 360/bioware/irritanail games 2k boston makers of bioshock/bungie/siliconknights /bethseda oblivion was no ton a jap console at 1st u see both country scan play the same game but the things is that the Americans can play it much better than the jap if American totally boycotts ps3 the ps3 is over.
quote: mesh1, " ...all i know is that the japs will not succeed as foreign games sell wayyyyyyyyyyy more than jap games..." Do me a favor and make a list of the all-time top selling games, ok? Now do some research (it won't take much) and find out who developed those games and where those developers are from. WHAT THE HELL!? JAPAN!!!!
HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAAAHAH AHHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAH i was starting to get sleepy until i read this. sorry but 3000 units and sometimes 1000 is NOT gaining momentum. the media spends things any way they can. im sorry but everybody knows the 360 is done in japan when lbp and mgs hit. but seriously this made me laugh hard. its been almost 3 years now and they havent even got much past 600,000 yet. THIS IS WHY SONY WILL WIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE JAPAN PEOPLE. ITS COMMON SENSE
if a game can sell 360 to a japanese audience, its a game by Sakaguchi. however, i fear its too little, too late. especially with the game being turn based when most other rpgs are headed towards smooth flowing actiony types. but then again, being different is good.
3360 not selling a million in japan is almost as funny as the ps3 not even selling 2 million in the US.
Under 1yr old and 2.2 million in the US. Google is our friend...
@13.1 actually the ps3 has sold 1,861,000 it'll have to sell 139k next month to hit 2 million. which i don't doubt that it'll do. http://forum.pcvsconsole.co... maybe you should use Google? Edit: below. the number i gave you are from NPD. you realize that right? Nov 06 - 197k http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Dec 06 490k http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Jan 07 - 244k http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Feb 07 - 127k http://www.neogaf.com/forum... March 07 - 106k http://www.neogaf.com/forum... April 07 - 82k http://www.neogaf.com/forum... May 07 - 82k http://www.neogaf.com/forum... June 07 - 99k http://www.neogaf.com/forum... July 07 - 159k http://www.neogaf.com/forum... August 07 - 131k http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Sept 07 - 119k http://www.joystiq.com/2007... so lets do the math 1,861,000 like i said. wow you know the Oct numbers arent out yet right? they will be out in a week or 2. you cant be this slow. Edit: they make their numbers up. they guess. my god people cant be this slow. but whatever NPD number come out the following month. im tired and you are very slow. Edit: you didnt blow anything up. i proved you wrong already. and check it for yourself. go 2 the main page all the way at the bottom and click on Methodology. the site wont let me link it which is why it didnt work.
http://www.vgchartz.com/awe... 2.2 million- I know it's not a pcvsconsole forum post, but it'll do. What was that about Google? Try harder sap. EDIT: No, the numbers you gave were from a forum post. And if you notice, under the chart, he states: "These numbers may or may not be accurate. They've been pieced together from various figures and percentages on the Internet." You sir, FAIL. Also...I'm laughing at you. Are we still in September? I seem to recall proving October's numbers. DOUBLE FAIL...and I'm still laughing at you. The link showed sales (and totals) for the week ending Oct. 27th. You're back pedaling efforts are futile. However, I am really enjoying this. "they make their numbers up. they guess. my god people cant be this slow." This from the man that linked a forum post where in the numbers he is "arguing", they write: "These numbers may or may not be accurate. They've been pieced together from various figures and percentages on the Internet." I'm sorry I blew your sh1t up left and right, but like I said, try harder. BTW: Your last link takes you to "The requested URL was not found on this server". TRIPLE FAIL You really think you're right? Awww, that's cute. Terribly misguided, but cute in a Corky Life Goes On kinda way.
lost odyssey could sell 360's but not as many 360's as msoft would like. A single game can't do it they have to give japanese gamers reason to chose their system over the ps3. Ps3 has the most exclusives(in Japan) between the two and has more games that cater to them. It really is that simple also the fact that sony is the name they know and trust probably helps out a little
Microsoft has never had a very big presence in Japan. It's not like NA or Europe where gamers buy games for their system, in Japan they more or less buy a system for their games. The mentality is different. Japan is also very loyal to products they produce and the companies that create them. Add to that mix the fact Western and Eastern tastes in games are different to say the least. So far there hasn't been much appeal for Japanese gamers as far as Xbox games go. Obviously this is starting to change a little since interest is growing. As far as momentum is concerned, if sales are increasing instead of decreasing like they have been, isn't that considered gaining momentum? Had the headline been, "Xbox 360 sales catching up to Wii sales in japan", that would have been funny. -Death
The place where they have a presence in is really America, because of halo 3, and gears of war.
I just want Lost Odyssey to be good by MY standards.
MSFT needs to get some more games out they like and come out with some sort of Super! Duper! software! capability! and market the sh*t out of it!!!!!!! boasting it being state of the art & futuristic " all the while...(thats the only way they'll listen).
The japanese do like fireworks too, so maybe they should advertise how it can explode are show pretty little red quadrants. That coudl get them to buy it.
.............WHAT ABOUT FF6 OR FF7. GOOD GAMES AM I RIGHT. BLUE DRAGON FEELS CLOSER TO FF7 (SUPER-DEFORMED PEOPLE WITH THAT SAME OLD MUSIC AND BATTLE SYSTEM).
Both were made by Kitase, my bad.
I KNOW MORE ABOUT FF THEN YOU SO SHUT THE F#CK UP. FFVIII WAS ALL NOMURA. IF YOU WANT PROF ILL SHOW YOU PROF.
Sakaguchi's original vision for FF7 was far different than it turned out to be. Also, it needs to be said that it was not him alone that made the FF series great.
Is good if you just give it a chance. It really doesn't pick up until after the first disc...
Tbh I think Kitase is what made FF6 and 7 good, he designed most of the gameplay elements in them. Story was by Sakaguchi, Nomura and someone else I think and as someone said above: "Sakaguchi's original vision for FF7 was far different than it turned out to be."
all time. dmc only got an average of 85 and onimusha only got i think a 88. and to ME those are some of the best game ever. (not including mgs) mgs holds a special place. oh yea and those people saying splinter cell would combat mgs, ACCORDING TO AVERAGE REVIEWS, ITS NOT EVEN TRIPPLE AAA. mgs is according to reviews so imagine what kind of reviews mgs4 will get with just about EVERYTHING PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT FIXED.
Xbox: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell (2002) 93 2.93 Million Xbox: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow (2004) 93 1.41 million Xbox: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory (2005) 94 1.07 million Xbox 360: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent (2006) 85 1.03 million the lowest rated one was an 85. average score is 91.25. so how is the series not AAA? Edit: guy below. from the VGchartz link you provided sales numbers are next to each game. Edit below. so a game has to sell like those games to be considered AAA?
Sales numbers are why genius, not review scores. EDIT: And that is my point. Just look up MGS sales, FF sales, Zelda sales, Mario sales, Halo sales. AAA production values, AAA $$$. Splinter Cell just isn't there yet. Wha? No "NPD" numbers from your forum post? Don't forget the disclaimer: "These numbers may or may not be accurate. They've been pieced together from various figures and percentages on the Internet." Classic. EDIT: It helps.
Actually.......Sakaguchi Only MADE the FF series He didn't make the most popular (and best out of the series) FFVI and FFVII and ect. He only made FF - FFV Still, His popularity is only matched by the great Kojima Hideo Himself....... and without a doubt I say Lost Odyssey will rock mah socks :)
With halo 2.1 flopping i dont think anything can save them over there its a done deal lets end this already. Aprils fools was 6 months ago guys.
back when ff spirits fell from total loses, Sakaguchi disbanded from his team FF7 AND FF spirits WAS HIS LAST. THIS IS THE SAME REASON WHY ALL FF7 REMAKES DON'T EVEN SOUND OR EVEN LOOK LIKE THE ORIGINAL FF7. SUPER-DEFORMED PEOPLE THAT WAS ALL SAKAGUCHI. THAT WAS HIS STYLE.
Then why didn't they look SD in battle?
I didn't know ^_^'' I've never really followed the FF series that closely....lol I guess I stand corrected :P Lost Odyssey will rock tho :D I just hope it gets as huge as FF it sure has the pottential
MOMENTUM MEANS 360 IS GOING INTO CHRISTMAS WITH 3 GREAT GAMES ONE MADE BY A GOD OVER THERE. SO HES SAYING THIS SOFTWARE IS BUILDING UP ANTICIPATION. THEY COULD SELL ALOT OF UNITS WHEN LOST ODYSSEY COMES OUT. STILL NOTHING COMPARED TO WII THOUGH. dont diss 360 when the ps3 aint far ahead. but still like 10:1 though lol
make a closer comparison then all of the FFs before FFVIII. thats when NOMURA took over except for FF9 (SAKAGUCHI)
FF is not the holy grail really, 360 fans should go play more jrpg..instead of making ff comparsion every time a discussion like this pops up.
he said long ago that he wanted to try something new a mixture of his old ff look and battle with a feel of change characters looking normal.(during battle) he still likes both look at blue dragon and lost Odyssey differences yes. however NOMURA did have something to do with FF7 he was the artist. wether good or bad he now owns FF7's sol.
I hear the new FF7 game for PSP is pretty solid, should wash away the backwash that was dirge of cerberus