Sony Computer Entertainment is not only sticking to its guns on its predicted ten-year life-cycle for PS3 - it's told CVG that it sees a decade as the minimum lifespan of its current home console.
Cool.. But PS4 will be out by then!
Obviously, but it'll still be selling. Just like how the PS2 is today.
Nothing new here, PS3 will be like PS2, damn PS2 still selling and refuses to pass away :P
Remember when people were saying that Sony had to kill the PS2 for the PS3 to sell well? Nope!
2014-03-24 iam from the future and playing The Last Guardian and Watching the movie 2012 on my PS4 edit: the cool part is that you can play your ps3 games on the ps4
I'm from the future too and I'm playing Final Fantasy Versus 13 which comes out in 2015!! Lol!
I like the idea of Ninty and MS releasing in 2012 and 2013 respectively and then Sony on 2015 it wouldn't be much overlap of games like now and therefore a good reason to have them all
now they have real-life security guards
Can you imagine not upgrading your computer for 10 years? I'm sorry Sony but that's no going to cut it and if you have any desire of recapturing the lead then are going to have to change up your strategy.
There is some truth to this in that sony will continue to manufacture the hardware for that duration but the support for it regarding software will have long since moved on. We can see with the amount of software support the ps2 gets as compared to the ps3. PS2 has lasted longer than 10 years and will continue to be sold so long as there is a market for it. Dont go expecting the flood of titles like we are seeing on the ps3. There are two ways you can look at this. You have manufacturing support and software support. Manufacturing support for the ps3 will be solid like they are implying. Within this time however we will likely see a successor and with that the level of software support will shift. That doesnt mean the hardware is obsolete. By all means the ps3 could get to that ps2 level of saturation provided pricing is mass market level. Perhaps it will be looked on as a kids toy and bought in droves for $99.99 for all new up and coming gamers. Very much like the NES when the SNES and genesis were hitting their stride.
These are not computers; they're consoles. Deal with it. Additionally, Sony's already taken the lead: they have sold more systems worldwide than Microsoft has. Just saying.
I feel like I've read a similar article like this last year... and the year before... and the year before that.
'it's always worth pointing out we're still selling PlayStation 2 in its millions around the world, 11 years after it was launched. That's different markets and a different profile of consumers but there's still some vibrant demand. That for me bodes extremely well for where the potential of PS3 will go." That just means that Sony will still be producing PS3's for emerging markets in 5+ years (just like what Sony are doing the PS2 at the moment), however we'll likely see the PS4's release long before the PS3 hits the 10 year mark.
I wish they would hurry and drop the price, so I can buy a few of them.
If PS2 can still be sold, PS3 should do ok
some one said it in a comment graphics wont be boosted that much and as long as the same games are on ps3 and ps4 more ppl will get the ps3 over the ps4. so unless sony kills off the ps4 there's no reason to get one unless its backwards compatible and has its own exclusives. but wiiu will be a step up for wii owners so it will sell because people can see the difference.
and the PS4 won't be a step up? Way to go you've earned "the it doesn't make since to anyone but me" badge. Please follow mario to the back of the stage to receive your honorar friend code. j/k but that last sentence was just desperate.
"Doesn't make since..." Since??
alright let me explain it for you since you are such a joker. say for instance this is portal 2 on ps4 http://www.youtube.com/watc... and this is portal 2 on the ps3 http://www.youtube.com/watc... they look identical to the average consumer so they think to themselves why would i buy a ps4 for 599$ to play the same game that i can get on the ps3 for 249$ they look the same so yeah unless there's a step up in graphics i dont see why there would be a need for a ps4 unless it had its own exclusive line
Here is a thought... it won't look the same! It has been 6 years since the Xbox 360 was released, and by the time we get another console it would at least 8 years. That is an eternity in the computing world. Think 8-years ago dual-core was just about coming onto the scene.... We are in the order of a magnitude faster now and even if you could only get half of that speed, 2-3x the ram and heavy optimization there is no saying it won't look as breathtaking as today's high end PC games are. Heck, despite a lower resolution iPhone games are starting look as good as Xbox 360 and PS3 games in your pocket! The main issue is that the hardcore gaming market really isn't large enough to support another release as far as I can tell.
Try telling that to the trolls over in the Wii U topics, even tho it's been 6 years they think the Wii U will be the same or worse than current gen, then the same people come onto the topics about the next Xbox or Playstation and say what a great leap the difference in 5-8 years will be. It boggles my mind!
"so unless sony kills off the ps4 there's no reason to get one unless its backwards compatible and has its own exclusives." You said it yourself. Sony's got many First party studios so there's bound to be exclusives.
I don't believe Sony means they won't release another console before 2016. They will release the PS4 in the next few years. Even if they wait until 2014 they will be in the same position they are in now. Microsoft will release in 2012 with Nintendo. It's their belief based on their research that the one to market first usually wins. That was the thinking on the 360 and it has worked for them. Why change now. And even though the Wii U would release at the same time, it's believed that they won't be fighting for the same market. Nintendo is smart. The good will they have built up with the Wii will continue with the Wii U as some of the younger kids get older and want a little more HC experience. Just holding onto that market will do well for Nintendo. Bringing out a cheap($299) console every four or five years will keep them in the game while staying profitable from day one. MS will launch a far more powerful console to remain the HC leader and pull the exclusives based on that power. A new machine 4 or 5 times the power of the current machine. They can do that cheap with a modern modded current GPU and a 10 core CPU. And they can remain cheap. Especially if they use a modified Xenon with the GPU and CPU on the same die. It would then be up to Sony to decide if they want to continue to fight for the HC or accept their current position. I think they will launch a PS4 with a modded Cell and more powerful GPU to keep cost down. They may beat the Wii U, but will be less than the 720. I think the Tsunami hurt their ability to continue at the same rate as MS.
The ps4 will just as powerful as the 720. they own the cell manufactoring plant so the new cell wont cost that much for them to produce. They will add more ram and put a more powerful GPU in, as will microsoft in there 720. The formula for making a better console isnt complicated. And we saw what cluster ps3s can do. All sony need is 2,3, or quad core cell (which will be cheap for them) and add some more ram and a better GPU. The PS4 will be awesome as well as the 720.
They bought that plant back from Toshiba. But it is believed it will be used for something other than Cell processors. CMOSs for HD cameras. But adding cores to the Cell is the way to go for Sony. But it's also the way to go for MS. And MS didn't have a tsunami to deal with and almost 4 billion in losses to go with it. If they had started to transform that plant into a CMOS plant and now need to go back to Cell it will cost them. If there was damage from the tsunami on the plant. It was in Nagasaki, but there might have been damage there. MS doesn't have to deal with any of those factors. The losses could cause Sony to wait to move on to the next generation to cut cost. Which could lead to a bigger hole than the one they started with this year. They do have two things in their favor though. The US is so hated in the world many won't buy and American product. And Japan doesn't buy American consoles. I remember seeing the interviews with people in Japan asking why they preferred the PS2. Many said the 360 was too big. This time the Sony console was bigger and they still didn't buy the US product. The truth is they love Sony. Sony has supported them and they return that support. And that won't change next generation or any.
The PS3 can last a very longtime IF it is supported. The system will seem like a steal at 199 or less. Plus if they continue Vita and PS3 connectivity even midst the PS4 days Sony is strategically going to recoup on the PS3 one way or another. Smart strategy Sony.
that's funny, mine lasted 3 years, then the blu ray died!
That's funny, mine lasted 2 1/2 yrs, got the YLOD, then I bought a slim.
pieces of shit aint they! I swear they make stuff to brake these days, i mean when the laser went there was no warning, no error message, nothing, it just wont see any discs anymore! I won't be buying another when mine totally dies.. I suppose i should be grateful! Atleast it didn't yellow light on me.
I blame Greanpeace, lol, but seriously thanks to the lead free solder we get YLOD. And you should be grateful, I lost 100+ hrs on Oblivion, Fallout 3, some 50 on Deamon's Souls, just to name a few :/
This doesnt mean the ps4 wont launch until atleast 2016. It means the ps3 will be in production until atleast then. That means the ps4 could come in 2013 but the ps3 would still be produced for atleast 3 years after that.
What is the PS2 at now? 11 years+
Just because some small factory in China still makes them, doesn't mean it's still viable. Very few devs/publishers still make mainstream games for the system. Support trailed off dramatically about 3-4 years ago, with the exception of Wii ports, and quick money grabs like garbage movie tie-ins. Anyone still buying a PS2 in the past few years, is likely just replacing an old one, or getting something for their kids to mess with, to keep them off their PS3/360. The relevant "lifespan" of the PS2 was about 7 years. EDIT: LOL...some people don't understand 100% facts when they see them, I guess. Disagree all you want...it doesn't change anything.
Because you don't know what you're talking about. PS2 still sells believe it or not.
100% Fact: The Playstation 2 was released in the year 2000 and new games were still being developed and released for it until the end of 2010. That's a 10+ year life. Not a 100% Fact: A subjective opinion of what a "lifespan" is. So your statement actually became more false after the edit.
hey kid, ps2 sold 7 million units in 2010 alone...quit your yapping
Try posting something that's 100% fact instead of your own definition of what "lifespan" means, then we'll see how many people understand it.
Well now... Nothing to see here, just some dopey child getting owned on the internet.
Sony is the only Company supporting the previous Gen Console, is profitable, PS2 still selling. When Sony officially announce no more support for PS2 Production (like they did with PS1), then officially you can say PS2 is not more viable.
PS2 is expected to sell 4 Million this financial and sold 6 million last year. I'm sure they are all not replacement
THWIP71 : All I heard from you is a a combination of bashing and words that you can't even back up. Get over yourself please.
Sony needs to release the PS4 in 2013, 2014 maximum.
I hope they release the ps4 in 2016/17. Ps4 will again fail like the ps3 if they try again a year after microsoft. edit: no I'm not having a laugh. Sony will fail going straight up against microsoft. They should miss a few years then come back with a bang with the best console at a great price. ps: ps3 failed in the sense that it lost it's massive install base and following from the ps2. ps3 wins in terms of games.
2016/2017? Are you having a laugh?
Will again fail? Damn, I hope I can "fail" like the PS3 has, in my career. That'd be pretty sweet.
at the end of its life cycle, ps3 would have outsold every home console made by every other company in game history. Thats failure i can live with
Let me get this straight, the ps3 having sold about 50+ million is a failure? FYI even if the PS3 sells for a loss there is a reason why Sony keeps more than 20+ studios making games for it. If you can't figure this out then get yourself a decent education.
Longer lifespan means more chance of actually turning a profit and perhaps cover some of the initial loses from the PS4.
my friend there is no chance those loses will be recouperated, it like 4 billion isnt it.
Hence, "some loses".
Is it 4 billion? You say it as if you know it and don't know it at the same time. Every company gains and loses money. You have no clue as to how much, from what, and from where any of it happens. Playing video games will not make you a financial expert.
@ biggest sorry that was a retoricle question. I thought that was obvious. sorry it isnt 4 billion its 4.7 as of late 09. http://www.joystiq.com/2009... going from there finacial statements they could have made up to 500 million since then but with the psn fiasco its back to atleast 4.5 billion dollars. So yes i do have a clue.
hudsoniscool : Do you work for Sony? Because you're in no position to talk about losses when this happens to every company.
@Hudsoniscool What loses? They were in the black in both 2008, 2009 and 2010, and their stock is currently listed under "Buy". (That means they're considered profitable). They posted a lower profit in 2009, but overall SONY was in the black. Don't believe me check out their annual company reports, or are you basing your argument on some old "news" article from JoyStiq? http://finance.yahoo.com/q/...
Thinking back on it, the PS2 is such a beast, heck as I post this my younger brother is playing on one.
I still play my ps2 on a daily basis.
I Still play my hardware based B/C, launch 60g PS3 on a daily basis.
... as if they're afraid people don't believe them. Hell, you don't have to be a genius to know that they NEED for the PS3 to last that long, just so they can have a "Slim" chance of turning a net profit for this gen. The PS2 carried them for the first 3-4 years...I fully expect the PS3 to do the same, when they launch their next console.
Do you guys think that the ps4 will use the same accounts that the ps3 uses.
I would hope so, I also hope Home moves over to the PS4.
Home will carry over to the PS4, you can't count on that one.
Of course it will; it would be crazy not too; I also think trophy would carry over also.
Yes, because PS Vita will extend the PSN Management, then, and I'm sure PS3 and PS Vita will be linked to PS4 with some features.
That's what I like to call a damn good product. I got my 60gb launch console running strong and it's good to know Sony will keep making ganes fir ps3 and won't abandon it as soon as the next gen console comes out (cough ms)
that means ps4 at E3 2015
No it means ps4 will likely launch in 2013 giving ps3 atleast 3 more years.
@tweet75 - No, I think PS4 will be shown at e3 2013 and release 2014. That would be around 7 years into PS3 life. Which it's been around the same for other PLAYSTATIONS. @outwar6010 - 4th Fat, I'm on my launch Fat 60Gb, mine still going strong. So, I'd say it's how you look after Fats. Look after Fats well and Fats will keep working.
im on my 4th ps3 the fat ones dont hav a long life expectancy i cant wait to pick up a slim and transfer all my stuff on there
Got my original Fat 60GB Ps3 launch model on release// still going... take care of your things.
Me to. I dont even dust it much. Im upgrading the 60gb hdd to a 250gb hdd today