It does not "warrant the cost involved to build that functionality."
Sad. I thought this was revolutionary - but Wii U might be the beginning of the end for Nintendo.
riiiight because we've only heard that about a million times at this point
I already have a few dvd & bu-ray players at home. And I don't really expect my Nintendo machine to do anything but play games, because that's what Nintendo's all about!
another box not checked Reggie? http://i.imgur.com/AGuWk.jp...
people are still complaining at this point in time that a nintendo console doesn't play DVD's? did i just go back in time to the year 2000 next im gonna hear people complain that salt water is too salty come on now after 11 years some of you guys are surprised? duuuur
As far as DVDs, everyone has a DVD player now, surely. For Blu-rays, right now Netflix is already the biggest bandwidth user in the US. This is before the Wii U is even released. Given it 2 or 3 years into the next console lifecycle and this will become as important as having a floppy drive on a modern PC.
Even if you have a dvd player, it should still have that functionality. I had a DVD player as well, and when it broke, I could play my DVDs on my PS3 and 360. If the PS3/360 didn't have DVD playing functionality, I would be in a bit of a predicament wouldn't I? Nintendo are so damn cheap, how much can it cost to include this feature, it's probably a miniscule amount. EDIT: Just read some details on it, apparently seems that Nintendo aren't certifying the drive so that it is cheaper. So even though it is a blu-ray, it won't be certified so it can't use dual layer discs or play dvd or Blu-ray movies. Stupid move imo, adding Blu-ray movie playback would be hugely beneficial.
but it could be better ( an additional ) a + why not play DVD or Blue ray
@gaffyh By that logic we should have 2 of everything at the very least. Hugely wasteful if you ask me. It's why you can't buy a phone nowadays without at least a cheap-ass camera in it. What if I don't want to waste money buying things I don't need? No choice nowadays. I'm glad Nintendo is not choosing to waste my money unnecessarily.
Do you realy need dvd or blu-ray play back? logically,nintendo wouldnd help the rival getting more money from them and secondo do you really want to pay extract to watch dvd? i got blu-ray on my latop ididnt even play it beside its a game console its main feature should be laying game not watching movie or picture
I could understand bluray to some degree, but surely DVD costs are cheap enough to implement? Though i get the reasoning, with people having these devices. Still, I think DVD should at least be used.
I THINK its because to license dvd they would have to be paying an annual fee wouldn't they and at this point in time what is the point?
i think its a missed opportunity to be honest. the very least it should play dvds. i mean come on its got a screen on the controller, how nice would it be to watch dvds on it in your room,toilet,kitchen etc. anyways im aware its a game console but in this day an age people dont really want single function devices when they can be so much more
Who watches DVDs now? And imagine it in a year.. Anyone who wants bluray will get it by then.
I can't even count the number of DVD players in my house any more. The fact is, its a gaming system, what do you expect it to do?
Silly human... if in 2011 you do not have the ability to play dvds or blu-ray media in your home then maybe you need to think about disposing of your vhs player and go to BestBuy and get your ass some new technology for your living room... yes that also goes for your cassette player you still walk around with on the street wearing your bell bottom pants and fish tank pimp shoes. As for me... I already own a PS3 and a DVD player... if I need to watch a movie... I have options. I like the fact they also exclude a hard drive (less noncritical components means cost is down and a very low failure rate cough xbox cough) and I have many external hard drives to use. Plus you have heard of Netflix....
I already have several DVD players plus my PS3 (Blu-ray). Saving some $$$ on this system is fine by me.
There ya go. Some sense right here people.
Not the beggining of the end. Just another hardware flop. Nintendo tend to go up and down. SNES and NES were awesome, GC and N64 didn't do very well, then Wii did really well... Wii U? could be set to flop but might see success too either way because nintendo put themselves out their trying to innovate, and do things differently it's easy for them to miss the mark and not quite provide what consumers want, but regardless like with the gamecube and n64 you can guarantee it'll be a decent console for those who do invest, and have a very respectable lineup of titles (from Nintendo especially) either way.
THIS IS SONYS DOING! i am officially convinced that the rumor that Nintendo and sony's fall out back when they were making the super disk drive nes aka ps1... it got scrapped by Nintendo and Sony made ps1, Sony put some type of bar on Nintendo to why they cant legally play DVDs and blue rays since Sony owns the medium. its their revenge, look at the facts if im wrong, N64 was cartridge, GC mini disk, Wii dvd disk, Wiiu proprietary wii u disk. Nintendo isn't doing it for fun Sony is blocking them. the wii didnt play dvds but that was a lie the hacks proved it had that functionality. And besides I for one dont use dvds if i get 1 i play it in my computer or laptop. i have netflix and streaming on the internet now, all i use dvds to do is backup media and rip movies off of them.
"Nintendo isn't doing it for fun Sony is blocking them" Sorry this made me laugh. It's to cut costs, I don't know where you got the conspiracy theory from.
dont believe the hype. the next gen after this wont have those functionality either. call it a conspiracy theory but it makes sense. sony is behind it
Sony can't 'block them' they don't even hold the full patents for bluray and they aren't allowed to discriminate who they distribute their patents use, to. It's something like $10 on every bluray system sold, and .50 on every disc go to Sony. Those figures might be inaccurate but it's something along those lines.
if i wanted a 4th DVD player for my room i would care but i think 3 in my room alone is enough as for blu ray i dunno i still prefer DVD's over blu rays ive only bought 3 blu rays since launch the extra 10$ just doesn't seem worth it
i can understand blu rays for new movies like transformers ya know flashy movies like that but others not so much i saw dumb and dumber 15 dollars for the blu ray and 5 dollars for the DVD i bought the DVD version myself but it made me wonder who exactly needs dumb and dumber in HD
i already have like 5 dvd players for every system. Its not crucial
It would be nice to stream DVD-movies through that screen, but I don't really mind. The games are the most important subject
What is this 2005? Quit bieng cheap Nintendo!
its not being cheap, they couldnt use blueray or cd or dvd even if they wanted to. the drives are dirt cheap now so you know something else is up.
because they lose so much money on pirating because they cant make it more secure. its so easy the pirate a nintendo console ( not that i have done it, i dont even own my nintendo consoles >anymore<)
People want functionality. They want things more practical and combined. This is why the PS2 and PS3 have done so well as multimedia machines. Who doesn't want to be able to play a game one moment and pop in a DVD the next? Netflix has made big strides in bringing movies to DD but you'll still see people running out to the stores to buy their favorite movies on DVD. It didn't matter at the time for the Wii because people were so engrossed with the Wii they didn't notice, but for the price that Nintendo will be asking for, something as common as a DVD drive inside of a machine should be a given. This is getting ridiculous Nintendo.
I can see the argument both ways. At first, I was like, "WTF? The licensing cost can't possibly be significant." On the other hand, streaming video is really coming along. The Wii practically printed money because they saw a niche for casual games and went for it. They didn't need CPU and GPU horsepower, and didn't spend money on it. So while it's surprising... I'm reluctant to second-guess Nintendo. The other feature that might be relevant is the fact that, if the Wii U uses only proprietary discs, it'll be awfully hard to burn pirated copies.
Well yeah, but if you don't have a Bluray player now, you almost definitely don't have an HDTV, and if you don't have an HDTV, why bother with WiiU?
I would have liked it to at least play DVDs and have some form of HD movie streaming function. I can see their reasoning, but maybe if Nintendo gave more options in their hardware, people might be able to free up the clutter of cables and equipment and just have the one machine to do it all.
You can already Stream movies from Netflix on Wii. I am sure Wii u will have a much better selection for those types of services next gen.
I agree with that, although we don't get Netflix in the UK though. I was thinking something along the lines of the 360's streaming, that doesn't need an additional subscription. DVD functionality would have been nice, though, as it would have meant one less device plugged into the TV. Wonder why we are both getting phantom disagrees?
Edit: Removed - Double Post On subject.. dang.. that's one thing that I hate but suppose shouldn't.. It's a games console for playing games on and it doesn't play movies... Mock Shock Horror!.. We have all just got used to other console markers this gen and previous gen's serving up multimedia experiences is all..
So much for being the entertainment hub of the living room.
That's ok it will only end up like it predecessor collecting (see image) especially if its online, entertainment functions, and third party lack just like the Wii.
@the people who are complaining: Do you really want the price to be even more jacked up on this thing, only to enable it to play a DVD, which is pretty much what everything else in your house can already do?
I want something that is included in mostly all entertainment equipment to be in period. How can they tout this thing to be a family hub for the living room and then not include one of the biggest family hub uses? Not excusable.
ITS A GAMING CONSOLE
@Merivigian - The era of solely 'gaming consoles' has already died. That's why they have streaming, web browsing and more included. It would be like arguing that a car shouldn't have air con or sat nav because it's just a vehicle.
@Merivigian Gaming consoles have had multimedia functionality since 1994. Even portable gaming devices have had multimedia functionality since 2004.
@ djh... Cars shouldn't have sat nav! It's 2011! Know where you're going! Seriously, people on this site argue over every little thing.
Probably because they are a VIDEO GAME company. derp
Hmm, you're right. I shouldn't be allowed to put my music and films on my ps3 hdd either. Or browse the web with it. Or watch bluray films on it. Or stream tv off it. Or watch tv through playtv on it. Or look at my photos on it. This is the 21st century and I should still be limited to just playing games dammit
Sounds to me like you shouldn't have any business console gaming, much like the Wii U specs whores out there complaining about it's hardware. You must understand, these are still consoles, NOT PCs. PCs are your unlimited multimedia source and no generation of consoles can change that. Sony made the mistake of trying to imitate PCs earlier in this gen and ended up charging $600 for a PC jr. Nintendo are almost purely a gaming company, so they are not trying completely to cater to movie watchers and PC gamers. It's lucky the Wii U can even do some of the multimedia things it's capable of. So to all of the specs whores and people acting like they don't own a dvd player: Move to PC gaming, would you kindly.
Yeah, I'm not asking my ps3 to allow me to make a PowerPoint presentation or create a piechart of my diet intake in excel. I'm just asking that my ps3 be my central entertainment hub in my room. I don't need a dedicated DVD player because I have a ps3 I don't need a dedicated bluray player because I have a ps3 I don't need a dedicated music player, because I have a ps3 I like listening to my music on my ps3. I like watching films on my ps3. I like viewing my photos on my ps3. And above all else, I love gaming on my ps3 because Sony cater for their fans hugely with a massive amount of exclusives We live in the 21st century bud, we don't have sega mega drives anymore. When even a smartphone can do more then just make a phone call these days, consoles can and should do more then just play games.
Correct me if I am wrong here but have you ever heard of Sony Music? Sony Pictures? You are comparing a company that makes money off of Movies and music to one that doesnt.. Of course it is in Sonys best interest to allow you to use those products, because they make money off of a lot of it. While Nintendo is a GAME company and nothing more. Leave it to a Sony fan to turn a positive into a negative... Okay lets say you are in the middle of a game and some friends come over and you want to watch a movie. I hit 2 buttons on my TV remote, we watch the movie and I go right back to my game. You with your "dedicated" system must go save your game, then exit the game and remove the game disc from the PS3 and put in your DVD,after the movie you will need to put the game disc back in and go back through menu screens and load screens in order to get back to your game.... Really now how is your way any way superior? Remember how bad it was for PS3 owners to think of disc swapping like you do with some 360 games? Anything to keep from having to swap discs, because this is next gen after all yet here they feel the complete opposite..
You're aware of the concept of putting a film on a hard drive valk? Microsoft also allows the 360 to play DVD films. I don't recall them owning any movie studios You know what though, you guys are right. I'm in the wrong here I'll admit. I'm being a total Sony fanboy. Consoles should just play games and do nothing else. It's fanboyish of me to suggest a console, especially a Sony console, should do more then gaming. We should totally be stuck in the dark ages and just limit our consoles to games and nothing else. Good points guys I'm just going to write an angry email to apple. How dare I be able to make a comment here through my phone. This thing should just be limited to phone calls
Good for you, I too like gaming on my PS3. But to seriously bitch about lack of a dvd player is stupid, especially since nearly EVERYONE own some form of one. It certainly isn't a loss, and I think Nintendo know this. Like I said, Nintendo are mainly a gaming company, they are not Sony. Naturally, consoles will do more than just play games over the course of time, but to act like it's mandatory for gaming consoles to be your everyday source for multimedia is ridiculous. Especially when the the company behind it is primarily about gaming. It shouldn't be any big deal if it lacks something in that department.
@Shadowflare, Yeah cause you can totally burn DVDs to any HD on any device... Igorant fanboy. Like how you ignore my post then post a made up feature to justify your hate. I should look through your post history to see what fanboy comment you made about being able to install multi discs gmes to the 360 hard drive and repost tyhat as my answer to you... But its not worth the time. Besides I am sure you would just imagine other features that dont exist to counter any points someone makes.. I am sure if it were Sony doing it though you'd be bending over to make excuse for them
Yeah, guess that Netflix was a mistake...
Neither Valk nor Fierce Musashi are implying consoles only need to play games or netflix is a mistake.
A next gen console, a revolutionary one said nintendo that can play Zelda HD at 1080p & 60 fps. But..it cannot play DVD or Blu-Ray? LOL XD
Lol... Nintendo fanboys are all like 'but but but it's a game console and that is good enough' HA! soon enough it will be these same guys hacking the wii u to play dvds and possibly blu rays...
lol Nintendo fanboys..... I'm sure it will be able to play movies. just not DVDs. blurays are own by Sony. so that's a no go. they will be using high density discs. the fan boy talk is really immature. you people just want the fans of Nintendo to come at you like dogs. there's always a reason for something and the reason for not implement DVDs in a console because its 1St priority is for "GAMING". They will implement something sooner or later
just like THEY implemented dvd playback with the wii? doubt it will be able to play any movie files, probably wont even be able to read cds or play mp3s... :) s'all good... its just for gaming right! who needs other functions? I liked pc's better when they were just command line... all these flashy GUI's... sheesh! who needs them! and yeah.. you are a fanboy... s'all good though! be happy that you can just play games! we all like to!
@N4SIR if i was ah nintendo fan boi. i wont have a PS3. Stop judging by what they wrote. you dont knw wat nintendo is capable of. i juss want to see some good games out for this ting. the fanboi talk is really getting old
oh really? then you will have no excuse for putting out an expensive price tag on this thing.
The "oh I have over 9000 DVD players in my house" reason just doesn't cut it. Think about it, if the WiiU had a DVD player you'd be chucking the rest out.
it really does not matter if it cant play dvd's or blu ray. It will have netflix with HD streaming. Most folks have a dvd player, and if you want a bluray player you can just buy one or just get a ps3. people just like to whine. its a video game console and that all Nintendo claims it to be, unlike sony and ms which want folks to think of their consoles as entertainment systems. its really not a big deal, unless you got nothing better to do than make it one.
And to the rest of the world that has no such streaming service? As for Nintendo 'claiming' it to be just a games console, seems they didn't get the memo with all the web browsing and tablet drawing.
Hey if you wanna make a big deal out of this go for it, i just disagree. If you have been waiting on the Wii U in order to watch dvd's and blurays then I guess its the end of the world for you. But I think Nintendos reasoning on this is sound, and wont stop people from buying a wii u.
The 360 and PS3 are both all around entertainment systems. It's kind of shocking that they're such cheapskates. No triggers and no ability to play even DVDs.. Why aren't they getting with the times and at least joining the current gen standards?
costs? you can get a dvd player for less than 20 quid so getting the license can't be that expensive. i bet it won't even play audio cds like the wii. kinda pathetic really.
I know its for gaming alright but surely some don't like having a multiple electronic appliances in a single cabinet like a Swiss army knife. More like a convenience factor.
People, how does this mean there will not be movies? Ever heard of netflix streaming? Plus i remember at last years e3, nintendo was talking about putting a movie store on the 3DS. I assume that will happen here.
You can't stream all movies off of Netflix. Most of the movies have to be ordered and shipped to you on a. . . DVD <~~~ This just limits what you can watch on a Wii-U.