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Submitted by jtorry 1125d ago | rumor

Xbox 720 likely at E3 2012, Crytek on board

Microsoft is gearing up to announce the successor to the Xbox 360 at E3 2012, and Crytek is already developing a new TimeSplitters game for the next generation of consoles, VideoGamer.com can reveal.

Specifications for the new machine have not been finalised, but Crytek is using Microsoft's DirectX 11 as the current basis for next-generation development. Tessellation, multithreaded rendering, and compute shaders are the three headlining features for DirectX 11. (Crytek, Microsoft, Next-Gen, Timesplitters 4, Xbox 360)

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Convas  +   1125d ago
Hmmm, don't know how to feel about this. Does this actually mean that Halo 4 will be pushed back to be a launch title for the NeXbox?

Excited and worried at the same time. How much'll this cost? What'll be the jump in technology? What're the specs? Oh yeah and of course ... WHAT ARE THEY USING AS A STORAGE MEDIUM?!?
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The Meerkat  +   1125d ago
Maybe there will be 2 versions of Halo 4?

Like Halo CE and Halo CE HD.

It would be Halo 4 360 & Halo 4 720
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tigertron  +   1125d ago
I think Halo 4 will be the 360's final encore.

2012 is the most likely E3 for next-gen to be unveiled, with Christmas 2012/spring 2013 releases. I'd be surprised if Sony and Microsoft went another E3 without showing their new hardware, especially when Nintendo just unveiled theirs this year.
captain-obvious  +   1125d ago
i think it'll happen since Nintendo already did it and showed the WiiU

Sony is going to be last to reveal its new console since the PS3 still got games to go by and they got the PSV to launch first

AND halo 4 might be a launch title
remember there was NO 360 logo at the end
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maniacmayhem  +   1125d ago
Its more than possible that the nextbox will be 100% compatible with the 360. Therefore they can release halo 4 and still announce a new console.

I doubt the online infostructure of live will change so drastically that it will break halo 4 gameplay.
THWIP71  +   1125d ago
That's very possible...
...just like how Nintendo released LoZ: Twilight Princess on GC and Wii.
ksense  +   1125d ago
I am pretty sure Microsoft will tease the next console at e3 2012 just to eat into the Wii U buzz. I am really not sure about Sony though. They might do it just like they announced vita right before the 3ds launched.
gamingdroid  +   1125d ago
What about cross play between consoles? There was also some talk about games being forward compatible.

Maybe a new Kinect that comes standard with the console too.

Now that is pretty cool.
Active Reload  +   1125d ago
If it's powerful enough, Crytek could release Timesplitters onto the Wii U or Epic could maybe bring the Good Samaritan to it. It would be more than likely, those two companies that would push the console harder than most...
JeffGUNZ  +   1125d ago
It makes perfect sense. Microsoft didn't show ANY Halo 4 gameplay. Just a teaser reveal trailer. They also announced it as a "new trilogy", makes sense to have this new trilogy on their next gen. console. Launching this system with a game like Halo 4 next gen. would be HUGE.

Also, think about this. Gears of War was pushed to September. Makes sense, it puts Gears back on a every 2 year cycle. I wouldn't doubt a Nextbox reveal at E3 with a launch 2012 holiday season. Microsoft is good for holding their cards and showing off content and releasign it shortly there after.
tigertron  +   1125d ago
Halo 4 will be a 360 title.

http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/...

Also, at the end of the trailer you see the 360 Jump In bit at the end.
AngryTypingGuy  +   1125d ago
I definitely don't think that Halo 4 will be the 360's final encore. It's doing too good. The 360 will go well into the next generation and then slowly fizzle out. Unlike the original Xbox, the 360 is profitable for MS.

With all the money that companies lose to start up a new console, it will be an asset for MS to keep making money off of the 360 into the next gen, just like Sony will do with the PS3.
ginsunuva  +   1125d ago
Lol you mean halo 4 and halo 4 720p
sikbeta  +   1125d ago
What was the point of kinect if they're going to launch a new console? I don't think it's going to happen...
gamingdroid  +   1125d ago
@sikbeta
They can release a new Kinect with full backwards compatibility. Besides there is nothing preventing the current Kinect to work with a new Xbox.
AngryTypingGuy  +   1125d ago
The points of Kinect were to breathe new life into the 360 and to capitalize on the motion-gaming craze. Who wouldn't want a chunk of the massive Wii market?
AAACE5  +   1124d ago
I swear, it seems like right after I say something, it gets announced! I said earlier today that the next Xbox would get announced at E3 2012! And about what could happen with Halo 4!
Fallouts  +   1124d ago
I do remember reading a while back on a rumor about all 360 games being BC and taking it a step further by enhancing the game. Don't k ow by bow much or if it's even true but damn that would be a great idea, no more remakes just put it In.
EVILDEAD360  +   1124d ago
Been calling this before E3..didn't need Crytek..it made the most sense
Halo 4 will release next holiday on the 360 to an Xbox with 60 million plus install and a 45 million active subscription base..in short Halo will finally launch in the holiday window and will have it's largest install in the history of the console. And will see the infamous price drop..

Halo 5..Forza 5..The next Gears trilogy..Fable 4..Kingdoms 2..will all make it onto 720.

All 360 assets will be backward compatible..Xbox Live accounts will push forward and so will Kinect.

This means we won't see a new 360 for 2 years and gives developers a 2-3 year shot to develop massive new ips to launch for all 3 new consoles.

People believing that Microsoft will pass up E3 is on drugs..because if they pass then they will lose all of the momentum that they have created this Gen and we saw how that has worked out for other consoles.

Evil
SilentNegotiator  +   1124d ago
A 2012 reveal hardly means a 2012 release. More likely 2013. Halo 4 will be on the 360.

Just remember what they say about rumors on the internet. MS is just starting to reap up profits with Kinect; I don't see them breaking that any time soon, unless they have a "KinectBox" system in mind.

"Real Banjo Kazooe would be also cool,.."
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Don't wait up. Rare is a shell of their former self. They made the last game that way to have LIVE features; no surprise since they're a part of MS now. If the next game isn't on Kinect, it will at least have something LIVE related.
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gamingdroid  +   1124d ago
@SilentNegotiator
Based on manufacturing cost, Kinect is profitable day-1 for the hardware. That's of course not accounting for extra Xbox 360 hardware sales, other accessories and games.

Kinect has been wildly successful for MS.
SilentNegotiator  +   1124d ago
@Droid

That's exactly what I said. But they just started selling the thing, like, half a year ago. Why would they abandon it and bring out a new console any time soon when Kinect is doing so well?
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catguykyou  +   1124d ago
They can announce the console at 2012 e3 and not release the console for another year. Wouldn't be the first time. Announce 2012, release 2013. Halo 4 comes out in 2012. 360 didn't have a Halo game at launch. I don't expect the new xbox to either.
catguykyou  +   1124d ago
@SilentNegotiator

All of the accessories from the Wii are compatible with Wiiu.

I would imagine that they will still push Kinect even with the new Xbox. No reason it couldn't work on the new system. It just uses a usb connection.
gamingdroid  +   1124d ago
@SilentNegotiator
MS aren't abandoning it with new hardware. They can either support both the new and existing, or continue using Kinect as is with the next console.

In fact, I have a sneaking suspicion the latter is what is going to happen. Then midway through the next cycle, they will release an updated Kinect to extend the life of the current console then.
ChrisGTR1  +   1124d ago
i bought a 360 on launch date but im fed up with the lack of exclusive games and new focus on kinect audience.
HappyGaming  +   1124d ago
Halo 4 will be Xbox 1s Halo 2... the reason why people buy/keep their old Xbox...
dcbronco  +   1124d ago
I believe MS will announce and launch a new system next year(remember they don't want to do the look and wait thing anymore). And Halo 4 will be on both systems. But it will be the same disc. Many may have forgotten that a year or two ago it was rumored that MS was working on a technology that would allow them to upgrade a game according to the specs of the machine being used. It may even have something to do with the new disc upgrade they did recently. They could launch a new console, that not only plays new 720 games, but upgrades old 360 games and improves Kinect because of a USB 3.0 interface. Anyone wanting to continue using a 360 or that wants a cheap console can still buy a 360. People who buy a 720 would get new value on their old games, abilities on Kinect and new experiences on the the new console.
dcbronco  +   1124d ago
And I am so tired of the lack of exclusives nonsense. 360 has just as many exclusives as Sony. They may not be 1st party, but they get far more 3rd party support. And for all of this "I want exclusives" talk, no one really buys the games. Does anyone really think Sony made much profit if any on Killzone 2. It took 5 years of development. I would bet they lost money on that. Forza gets panned buy the same "exclusives" people and yet it continues to outsell the vast majority of Sony first party games. Only UC comes close. Fable, Gears and Halo all kill Sony exclusives in sales.

I know the reply, "I only want great games". Well another studio closed this week. Great games or not. You have to sell games too.
HappyGaming  +   1124d ago
If PS4 is coming to E3 2012 we will know about it from March :P

Sony can never keep a secret...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
zinkabass  +   1125d ago
Most likely,.. What else do they really have?
Banjo Kazooe? Maybe it will release on both,.. one in 1080P with tessalation,..

MS=WEAK (even weaker, than at the start of this gen)
They have less studios than they had going in,.. sad
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zinkabass  +   1125d ago
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What did I say?,.. Halo4 on nextbox would only help them,.. Real Banjo Kazooe would be also cool,..
Or they can just pack and go home, without any first party,.. they would need to be damn crazy,.. Maybe you guys are just so loyal,.. battered wife syndrome,..

Or maybe they just really know and understand their consumers,...Sesame street and teletubies,.. apparently
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Ghoul  +   1125d ago
wich all respect

dont underestimate a company preparing a new system, IF they announce the next box at e3 2012 then alot of companys are allready developing on the next hardware specs (estimates)

that would also explain the lack of new games this year on the 360

im not a fan of ms (but i like my box) and i bet if they announce a new xbox you can rest assured they will enter with a big bang.

maybe you should start with a little common sense instead of trying to be a pseudo analyst of the gaming industry.

i game for 26 years and work for 7 years on the games industry but i wouldnt dare to make such bold claims like most people do these days.

EDIT::
btw crytek back up ms alot lately and IF they are involved defining the next hardware you can rest asured that it will deliver.

if there is a company that pushes hardware still its crytek
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zinkabass  +   1125d ago
@Ghoul,.. I do agree somewhat,.. but same apologetics was used last year,..
Want to make a bet? Hell, I doubt there will even be another MS system.
And about crytek,.. they don't push shit,.. they mostly brute force it,..If they were defining the new hardware,...shit would not look 599,..but 1599,..
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TenkoTAiLS  +   1124d ago
It's amusing you say don't count a company out when they release new tech, and if it has crytek on it that it will be decent and push the boundaries. Over on the Wii U topics people are bashing a new console before they know anything about it beyond the controller, and when it got crytek support people started saying how crytek wasnt important and it would probably be watered down. It's just sad how people change their opinions based on what company announces it.

OT tho, I am looking forward to seeing what Microsofts next offering is, will be interesting to see if there is any truth to the rumors about them trying to cross platform and integrate with Windows 8.
RedDead  +   1124d ago
zinkabass...MS has done extremely well this gen. Sony was the one playing catch till about 09. They have made their mark in the gaming industry, and right now they are here to stay. Another console WILL be made.
sjaakiejj  +   1125d ago
the new Xbox will only release in 2013 - announcement at E3 2012, that gives Halo 4 plenty of headspace.

I hope this is true though.
malamdra  +   1125d ago
if Kinect is indeed the future of MS like the guy with the sunglases said, then this whil be a crappy console with Wii U-like specs

and this time it will be absolutely true that next generation will start when Sony wants it
etowntwo  +   1125d ago
If Sony releases last again next gen, then they will remain in last place like this gen kid.
k-dillinger  +   1125d ago
yes i agree next gen starts when Sony says it does and ppl need to understand sony will not be releasing ps4 even if Microsoft launches theirs 1st the ps3 was meant to compete against wii u and 720.. besides its way to early for sony to follow suit after only releasing worldwide in what 2007 no way we got some years still b4 ps4..
frostypants  +   1125d ago
@k-dillinger
The PS4 will release by early 2013 along with the 720/NeXbox. Sony won't make that mistake again.

It has nothing to do with the PS3. They'll still support it, just like they still support the PS2.
malamdra  +   1125d ago
why is it that people keep comparing the sales numbers of products released years apart?

maybe the best thing fo Sony will be wait at least two years after MS releases their console to launch a new PS so sales numbers will have to be match in timeframes, like it should be now
slapedurmomsace  +   1124d ago
How does it start when Sony says it does? So the Wii U is what? And if the next Xbox is release/announced before the PS4 what generation does that belong to? I swear, you guys defend Sony like that pay you. Oh btw, Nintendo use to think the "next generation" started when they said so as well and that somewhat worked for the SNES, but the N64 was not really a failure persay, but didn't come close to living up to the PS, and the Gamecube was a disaster compared to the number 1 console of that generation. Arrogance breds failure.
baodeus  +   1124d ago
@malamdra

then u must admit that what Sony said about this gen (this gen won't start till Sony said so), isn't true then, and u are right. No one give a shitz what Sony said. If they aren't comming out early, people not gonna wait cause obviously they can make money early with other companies.

Since when did u hear companies release their product later than their competitors get most of the market share (unless their competitors screw up badly)? Well i don't need to tell u, u can see what happen with Sony this gen right?
Nicaragua  +   1124d ago
@baodeus
"Since when did u hear companies release their product later than their competitors get most of the market share (unless their competitors screw up badly)? "

SNES released later than Sega Genesis and took most of the market share

PS2 released later than Dreamcast and took most of the market share

Wii released later than 360 and took most of the market share
baodeus  +   1124d ago
Well i did say if the competitors don't screw up, like Sega which pretty much kill themselves.
LocO_o  +   1125d ago
If true this could mean alot of exclusives for the Xbox 720 - its kind of like the 360 where games like Bioshock,Dead Raising,Saints Row were all 360 exclusives because the PS3 was not ready yet.
frostypants  +   1125d ago
Why do you assume that Sony isn't working on the PS4?
rob6021  +   1125d ago
Who all would be on board with development costs going even higher? They'll most likely get a bunch of this gen games in 1080p.
MakiManPR  +   1124d ago
Hahaha No, u forgot the Ambulance WiiUWiiUWiiU.
fluffydelusions  +   1125d ago
Is this site reliable? Just looking at the front page. 98% of the articles don't even have a comment.
keith-ps3  +   1125d ago
the trailer looked nice just want the main story to be longer it took me forever to to beat halo one and two
showtimefolks  +   1124d ago
when nintendo announced its console
it is only matter of time till MS announce a new xbox. But it will not be way ahead of its time it will improve on what nintendo will do. and that's actaully smart have a system which does advances the tech and had kinect built in for a fair price of maybe 349 to 299.

than either at tgs 2012 or gdc 2013 sony will show or atleast confirmed the fact they are working on ps4 and it will launch fall 2013 to early 2014.

but i would not be surprised if for 2012 both sony and ms keep quite while tehey work on next consoles just to see what nintendo does right and what they can improve on.

biggest thing with next consoles will be price cony understands that look at NGP so don't expect to pay anything over 400 at the most but it could be as little as 349-299
Domer25  +   1124d ago
TimeSplitters 4.....yes please.
Laika  +   1124d ago
god i hope so!
scissor_runner  +   1124d ago
Here is the trick windows 8 is the next xbox and it will need 8 gigs of ram to run just like how crytek wanted. Pc gaming comes home on the next xbox platform. You will see laptops with wiiu screens now and windows will have a vr feel to it now.

The next box will be alienware based an even Sony will have a version because the next xbox will be part of windows 8!
KeiserSosay4788  +   1125d ago
I really hope it utilizes DX11
captain-obvious  +   1125d ago
DX 10.1 at BEST
Kurylo3d  +   1125d ago
why would u say that? Dx 10 was sort of just a stepping stone... dx 11 is the one with all the features... and anything that supports dx11 supports dx10... all modern day gpus support dx11, and if nintendos console is anything specification wise to go by... well then microsoft will make a dream machine.. even if it matches nintendos new console
fluffydelusions  +   1125d ago
^^ I guess Wii U only has 10.1 support. Well that is what the rumors are saying anyway.
Shackdaddy836  +   1124d ago
@plb There is no dx for nintendo. dx is microsoft's.
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scissor_runner  +   1124d ago
Shadermodel 4 is the best OpenGL baby! That's what's on nintendos next box.
Ghoul  +   1125d ago
you guys DO know that DX (Direct X) is a ms tech
neither sony nor nintendo are using it and never will.

just to let you know
SpartanQ8  +   1124d ago
i think sony is using Open GL correct me if i'm wrong
Ghoul  +   1124d ago
yes sony is using opengl

the name says it all its pretty much open to anything you want if your capable of doing so
RevXM  +   1124d ago
Sony uses PSGL
Its based on OpenGL ES.
It also suppurts LibGMC and C for Graphics (CG).
LibGMC is a low level language and CG is a Nvidia developed High level language for shaders.

Funny thing that MS co-developed CG with Nvidia.
Raven_Nomad  +   1125d ago
Phil Spencer already declined comment as to if Halo 4 would be on the next Xbox. I already suspected Microsoft would announce Xbox 720 next year with Halo 4 and Gears Of War Exile as launch titles.

It only makes sense to start new trilogies on the next platform. Microsoft is smart though and while in the eyes of the people an announcement of the Xbox 720 would have "won" E3 in the people's eye, it would have crippled 360 sales in the meantime.

Expect Xbox 720 with Halo 4 Holiday next year. They will get a one year jump on Sony yet again.

Imagine a launch lineup with Halo 4, Gears Of War Exile and a game from Crytek...could be pretty slick.
Nes_Daze  +   1125d ago
Well it's not like Sony needs to necessarily rush their next console to launch before the xbox720. By just releasing a moderately priced system, it is no where near impossible for them to overcome a headstart by the next Microsoft console. Heck, it is only a few million away and that is with all the bad press from launch and the psn outage, that's pretty impressive to me.
On another note, Not surprised, it will be interesting to see what this new console will look like and perform.
Dlacy13g  +   1125d ago
@Gloomy_Nes... Actually I think its far more impressive that the 360 has managed to hold Sony off for as long as they have given the disaster of the RROD.
gamingdroid  +   1125d ago
@Dlacy13g
Yep, with "supposed" inferior technology to boot. Even more remarkable is that they are able to convince people to pay for Xbox Live, but Sony is unable to convince gamers to pay extra for the PS3.

Combined, the Xbox platform is more expensive than the PS3.
MasterCornholio  +   1124d ago
@gamingdroid
The reason why so many people subscribe to XBOXlive is because they want to play games online. Because without gold the multiplayer aspect of 360 games is rendered useless. Hence why so many people subscribe to it. Now if Sony didn't have free multiplayer i can guarantee you that more people would pay for plus (compared to how many people have plus now minus the free users).
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Dlacy13g  +   1125d ago
Raven, I think you are pretty spot on for Gears of War Exile... running on the new Unreal Engine on the new platform. Halo 4 will be the swan song for the 360. Last big game for it, will ensure people stay vested and interested in the 360 while the new console comes out. I also think we will see MS pull a Sony and continue major support for the 360 for a few years into the new console life cycle with price drops.
Nes_Daze  +   1125d ago
Sorry, but the RROD issues didn't stain Microsoft like the horrible launch of the PS3($600 anyone?) and the PSn outage combined. The media obviously picked on Sony's console, quickly becoming its whipping boy. I think next gen, with all companies learning from their mistakes, and from Nintendo's successful run, we'll see some pretty interesting consoles.
Evoluti0n  +   1124d ago
@ Gloomy

...are you serious? RROD was completely and utterly worse than the launch price and PSN issues of Sony. Were you on N4G when the RROD was going on?

It was anarchy, period.
Doletskaya  +   1125d ago
Sorry but Halo 4 is a 360 title.

http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/...
AlienLion  +   1124d ago
Does nobody listen? Halo 4 was announced as a "dawn of a new trilogy on XBOX 360".
Bonobo12345  +   1124d ago
Yup, I don't think we are going to see an xbox 720 announced 2012....
I highly doubt we will see one 2013..
after that it's anybodies guess.

this article is pure speculation..
AngelicIceDiamond  +   1125d ago
Sounds cool but I doubt it HIGHLY doubt it.

I take that back I I just don't wanne give into a rumor that sounds "promising" though a 2013 release date sounds right though.
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Dlacy13g  +   1125d ago
I think you can pretty much bank on MS announcing new hardware next year. Nintendo will be done with all their Hardware announcements.... Sony will still be a year out most likely... MS would have the spotlight to themselves. Plus the announcement most likely will take much of the steam away from Wii U (if it has any at that point).
kudakadere  +   1125d ago
i hope MS don't rush it while trying to beat it 's competition to the market , in this case the Wii U .
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weskerre5  +   1125d ago
I hope not either. I also hope they don't try to cut corners like releasing some consoles without hard drives, keeping a dated storage medium and knowingly releasing faulty hardware like the rrod.
Half-Mafia  +   1125d ago
i think both Sony and MS will show there next consoles at E3 2013 not 12.

also what is the chances of Sony still selling the PS2 when the PS4 is on the market. that will blow my mind.
deathbetold  +   1125d ago
i dont tink they would b/c thats like saying the ps3 wasnt good. so they had to skip over it. ps3 is a awsome machine so better not treate it like that
Half-Mafia  +   1125d ago
i didnt even look at it like that. the PS3 has been out for about 6 years now so its not like its a skip over. also i can still buy a GBA SP while the DS and 3DS r being sold.
frostypants  +   1125d ago
By E3 2013, both systems will have been on shelves for a while.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   1125d ago
Thats great Microsoft just don't give us another Red Ring.
JeffGUNZ  +   1125d ago
I am sure that's all in the past. They have released multiple updated 360's, including the slim 360 and it has resolved that issue. I am sure this was a mistake that they are going to guarentee won't happen again.
SlyFoxC  +   1125d ago
? i got a E57 error on my slim...sure it only happened once..but dont say the resolved it...

it is an electronic device...and electronic devices overheat and will always overheat...especially in smaller cases with all the tech bundled inside of it.
JeffGUNZ  +   1125d ago
They resolved the issue with the original 360's, which caused the Reg Ring. Sure, you're never going to resolve ALL issues, but it's obvous they resolved the true cause of all the RROD. My comment states I am sure Microsoft will triple check their next gen system to make sure an outbreak like RROD will not occur again.
IRetrouk  +   1124d ago
i had the resi 5 lim ed xbox, it rrod on me, it was the final revision before the slim, they didnt compleatly solve the problem, but props to them on the redesign seems to have fixed the biggest probs of 360.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   1124d ago
I really hope so it was an hardware malfunction after all. That being said Microsoft should have plenty of time to sort out the Kinks in the NextBox with only a ..."reasonable" amount of errors(No consoles perfect at launch) instead of a long term epidemic lol.
otacon68  +   1125d ago
With release fall 2013...quite possible.
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JeffGUNZ  +   1125d ago
I think a release in holiday 2012. Microsoft is pretty well known for showing content off at E3 and releasing it shortly after. Halo 4 will be the release game for it, since it was announced as a "new trilogy".

I believe Gears of War: Excile will be released the holiday season of 2013. Would be massive if they released both Halo and Gears as console launch games.
Convas  +   1125d ago
Alan Wake 2 on Xbox Next would also be megaton!
holdmedownma2008  +   1125d ago
I think your getting to excited bro, they're not going to release a brand new piece hardware at the end of next year with Halo 4 coming to the 360.
Lyle91  +   1124d ago
2013 seems likely for the Next Xbox. The need to build up the hype first and 6 months between E3 2012 and the 2012 holiday season isn't enough time. PS4 will likely be 2014 or later.
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CBaoth  +   1124d ago
@ Lyle 2013 does seem more realistic but
if there's one company who knows the value of launching first, it would be MS. So it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see the 720 arrive in the States before WiiU. IMO fall 2012/spring 2013 seems feasible.

Remember MS isn't restricted to just E3 in announcing new hardware too. From a business standpoint it makes more sense for MS to focus on 2011 holidays, announce the 720 @ GDC 2012 (march), and release in the Fall with 8 months of hype and marketing with Halo4 as a launch title.
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Munky  +   1125d ago
With the rumors about EA already having a dev kit, now Crytek announcing they have a game running off of a machine which has the supposed Nextbox specs, I wouldn't be surprised if this is true.
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trancefreak  +   1125d ago
Absolutely the time is nearing for it.

Sony though is hard to figuire out IMO. They want to keep selling the ps3 to make up costs from loosing money on the consoles.

At the same time though they dont want to loose that next attraction by having the new games being best played on Xbox.

I think Sony has a catch 21 on their hands. And don't forget Ps3 was launched a year after the psp. If history repeats itself than Ps4 will e being released about a year or so after Vita launches.
KILLERAPP  +   1125d ago
I think they’re going to be like Nintendo and show off their console at next year E3 and MS will launch it at the spring of 2013 and Sony the fall of 2013
JeffGUNZ  +   1125d ago
Don't be surprised to see it launch the fall of 2012. At the end of Microsofts E3 presentation they showed Halo 4 as a "new trilogy" with a release date of holiday 2012. There is no way they will release a new Halo game, which is part 1 of a 3 part series on the 360. This will be the launch game for the Nextbox and possibly Gears of War: Excile.
fluffydelusions  +   1125d ago
But they said it would be a new trilogy on the 360
Half-Mafia  +   1125d ago
why release a game as big as Halo on a console with zero install base.
dawgsfan117  +   1124d ago
Half-Mafia did you really just ask that. I believe that is what the call a system seller. Halo is one of those franchises big enough to get people to go buy a brand new system. Sounds like good strategy to me.
kopicha  +   1125d ago
where's halo 1? and where's halo 2 and 3? that sums up your "doubt"
dawgsfan117  +   1124d ago
1 and 2 are both original xbox
earbus  +   1125d ago
After reading the wii u specs they will be getting ready about time i say, we dont need a new playstation cause i hear its got heaps of power left.
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fluffydelusions  +   1125d ago
Which Wii specs? I've just seen rumors and such.
samchez77  +   1125d ago
WHAT?????? An admittance from Earbus that the PS3 still hs plenty of power left, and the Xbox360 is old tech? Finally seeing things for how they are huh??
trancefreak  +   1125d ago
Seriously the ps3 is awesome and I love it because of my specific usage of the system, but the hardware tech is so dated now.

I compared my PC copy of crysis 2 to my ps3 version and was not very surprised of the results.

I know its not always about the best graphics too all but I'm conflicted thinking Sony would just let them new Xbox jump out on the again.

Market share is very important as we all know and I'm sure Sony wants some of the North American pie back.
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raziel6430  +   1125d ago
well bring it on.. new Xbox, new Wii, and new ps4.welcome to the next gen.i love it when a plan comes together...lol
Fred_C_Dobbs  +   1125d ago
will microsoft dare to release a console without bluray?
I dont think so. they'll get crucified. this is no longer 2007. just look at the mountain nintendy has to climb with wiiU.
people are not falling like they did in 2006/2007

sony will win with every game microsoft sells.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
xCaptainAmazing  +   1125d ago
Blu-ray is completely unnecessary
What they need is a large proprietary disk format like the Wii U but maybe bigger... one that mimics blu-ray. If it has it then great, but I have a PS3 and have not bought a single damn blu-ray. All digital for me, and that's what the MS plan has been for the last few years.
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qwertyz  +   1125d ago
pioneer owns most of blu ray not sony
montyburns000  +   1125d ago
I can see the next xbox launching holiday 2012. WiiU will probably be ready for launch spring 2012. ps4? who knows, Sony probably wants to launch two more handhelds before that date.

we have already had reports of the dev kit being used around the same time as the WiiU. I wouldn't surprised if they both launched at the same time.
Shackdaddy836  +   1124d ago
Two more handhelds?... Really?
WooHooAlex  +   1125d ago
I'm ready for next-gen, bring it on!
femshep  +   1125d ago
prolly PS4 as well
RAmar101  +   1125d ago
seems plausable, i do believe xbox 720 will be unvieled at next years E3 as so will ps4. great times ahead for gamers
BlmThug  +   1125d ago
Nextbox & PS4. The True Start Of Next Gen
Lyle91  +   1124d ago
If by "next gen" you mean graphics that PC's have had for quite awhile, then yes. If you mean something that's actually new, than the Wii U will be the only true next gen platform. Unless Microsoft or Sony go Nintendo's route with their next consoles, which would make sense since there is a lot of money in innovation.
Falaut  +   1124d ago
..."graphics that PCs have had for quite awhile" oh you mean higher resolution while still being coded with directx9c as its foundation?
etowntwo  +   1125d ago
When the 360 released, did they announce it at E3 2005 or 04?

Just wondering cause I think if MS announces the 720 at E3 06, then it will most likely release Fall 06.
Mayle  +   1125d ago
what E3 06?
Septic  +   1125d ago
If Microsoft announce a new console next year, that would ROYALLY mess up Sony. However, that might then shorten the lifespan of the nextbox because when Sony then release new tech, that is going to dwarf Microsofts next console technologically. These will be interesting times.

Personally, I wish both companies stick it out this generation for a few years. Then the jump from this generation of games to the next will truly be a sight to behold.
NoobJobz  +   1125d ago
Timesplitters? Eff yeah!!!

Wonder if it's gonna be a launch title for the new system. Yummy
likedamaster  +   1125d ago
Well it was about time. I could wait on the PS4.
CptFlashHeart  +   1125d ago
I am fucking stoked if this is true... All the benefits of Live with a better system with better graphics, awesome-a-saurus-rex!
Jamaicangmr  +   1125d ago
I expect them to both (Sony, Microsoft)have an offering at the next E3. Definitely Microsoft and i doubt Sony is gonna allow their next box to be late to the party again.

Also expect a lot of the titles already announced for next year to be held back and be PS4 launch titles. I also expect the same from Microsoft and Halo 4.

Just my 2 cents anyway.
SweatyFlorida  +   1125d ago
That's what I'm thinking as well. Sony can't launch late if they want to stay on top next gen. Being a year late and a $599 price tag hurt Sony BIG time (and probably the only reason 360 is ahead this gen) Though, Sony will probably release a season late instead of a year this time

Plus I think its time to move on, even with all the games released this year it just seems right to start the next chapter in late 2012 or early-midway 2013. And since both companies have been confirmed to be working on their next gen console I say its very likely. Even the article said Crytek is investing in PS4 development. I'm excited to see how things turn out :D
Phantasm  +   1125d ago
If so, this may be one of the reasons for a lack of 1st party developement. The 360 would go on with Kinect behind it, and appealing more towards the casual crowd (with a casual price). Multiplatforms would continue as well.

Microsoft would basically support both systems appealing to two demographics. Just like Toyota does with it's Lexus brand, and it's self titled line.
the_kutaragi_baka  +   1125d ago
man this gen sucks!

next-gen consoles aren't necessary yet godamit!
starchild  +   1124d ago
This gen sucks....but you don't want next gen to come yet? Umm..ok.

This gen doesn't suck in my opinion, but I am still ready for a new generation. If I thought this gen sucked I would definitely want a new generation.
Optical_Matrix  +   1125d ago
After the abysmal conference at this E3 they need to announce it. Seriously, between Nintendo announcing Wii U and Sony showing off more of PS Vita, Microsofts conference was almost irrelevant. No new hardware or software reveals. They need this to stay relevant within the core market. Lets see what this thing will do.
sazzrah  +   1125d ago
If that was true we'd have a new console generation every 1-2 years. Hardware ultimately isn't what is important to gamers - games are.

Don't let the hype contest that is E3 raise your expectations of Microsoft above and beyond what is realistically feasible. So they didn't 'win' E3 2011. Big deal? Doesn't suddenly mean they are irrelevant.
Optical_Matrix  +   1125d ago
Of course hardware isn't important every E3. However, when your two competitors are showing off new hardware and stealing all of the media attention, and you haven't even got a decent software showing to rectify your lack of new hardware, then its clearly time to reassess your strategy.

That was their problem. Recycled franchises, on rails Fable game? Meanwhile the other two showed off PS Vita and Wii U. Microsoft was almost irrelevant this E3. And I'm sure many others would agree with me.
sazzrah  +   1125d ago
This is likely untrue.

Microsoft's new hardware has already been released - yes, I mean the Kinect. Since it has been so successful sales-wise, I suspect they will coast on that for a couple more years. A 5 year lifespan for a console generation is pretty dire especially considering the impact recession has had globally; these companies are better off stretching this gen as much as they can. I wouldn't expect to see the beginning of a new console generation until 2013-2014 at the earliest.
NoobJobz  +   1125d ago
In 2012, that will be 7 years, not 5. 7 years is long enough.
Aarix  +   1124d ago
Idk this gen is way to different than last gen to "follow the cycle". If we didn't have harddrives and high capacity CDs because we didn't expect games to evolve so rapidly. Then we should wait a while so when we buy them there's no disaster and with games, it cost millions and millions of dollars to make, that's a big investment. We don't need a problem like '83 (yes it's possible).
IRetrouk  +   1124d ago
Aarix
i agree, these consoles have a lot more in terms of features and content than compared to any gen before it, i think the tech can still be pushed, although saying that when they do release new hardware im there.

on another point i always wanted to see what the dreamcast was really capable of, it never really got the chance to be pushed, because of its imature death.
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sazzrah  +   1123d ago
Ok, my bad I got the dates wrong. For some reason my brain was thinking 2007. I guess I was thinking of the PS3. *shakes head*

Anyway, I don't think 7 years is enough to be honest. Again, like I said with the recession they're probably not too eager to risk more financial loss, because very seldom do hardware launches make companies any profit and Microsoft haven't been making the truckloads of cash people assume they have with the X360 due to the RRoD and constant console replacement/repair costs. I believe they only started making money after recouping all their losses LAST YEAR!

IMO it is highly unlikely Microsoft will go for a console launch until the very last minute - they will stretch this gen to its limits before they go for their next console. The only way I see them taking the leap earlier is if they feel threatened and pushed into launching.

i.e. if Sony start making moves towards a console launch or if the Wii U becomes successful enough that it starts to encroach on the HD console market. If Wii U is successful then yes, you are likely to see a 2012 or 2013 launch. If it isn't (and Nintendo do have a track record for releasing one awesome/successful console followed by a sucky/failboat one) then their only concern is what Sony are doing, and until they start feeling the pressure of a possible PS4 announcement they have no real reason to release a new console. They don't just do it for the love of technology, it also has to be profitable! Ditching the X360 now isn't profitable.

If they release too early for example, they risk being outclassed by a PS4 released in 2014 or 2015 and then spending the next console generation being the graphically inferior console. If they wait until Sony start making their move, they can pip them to the post and steal their limelight; we all know Microsoft are very much capable of outclassing Sony when it comes to advertisement and retail strategy.

Doing it that way means they can make a profit out of the X360 for as long as possible and can directly compete with Sony when the next gen truly arrives rather than letter them outgun them later down the line; because don't think Sony didn't learn anything from the launch of the PS3. I'm very sure they learnt a lot about what not to do when being the last out of the gates and they're not likely to do that again after however many years it took them to get the PS3 to become profitable.
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TheNocturnus  +   1125d ago
I hope this is true, I am ready for the next gen. It has been about 6 years since the 360's launch and it is time for the 720.
assmonkey  +   1124d ago
Same here I'm ready fir the next step. Wonder how Nintendo will handle this if it's true?
matey  +   1124d ago
They will handle it just fine as Crytek are making an exclusive game on WiiU now using 2 Upads and making use of Cry Engine 3 so dont think timesplitters 4 wont see a WiiU release as the graphics on WiiU are next gen infact it does DX12 as the WiiU is using HD 7000 series confirmed
SignifiedSix  +   1124d ago
@matey
Sorry to burst your bubble, bud, but no other platform is going to support DX11 or 12 besides Microsoft platforms. Microsoft owns the tech...
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