Eurogamer writes: There used to be breathing space between Halo games (Halo 1 2001, Halo 2 2004, Halo 3 2007), but in recent years Microsoft has been flinging the IP at us: Halo Wars 2009, Halo 3: ODST 2009 and Halo: Reach 2010.
yep 07 08 09 2010 2011 i agree same with call of duty wwe games need 4 speed asc
. Sorry, I want MORE Halo games and not less. Where's Halo wars??? There is a great big RTS community waiting for the next big game and Halo wars was a great start...where's the sequel. It sold millions and M$ just walked away and closed down the dev...o_O Why is there no TPS Halo game like Ghost Recon or So-com??? The Halo universe is big enough for a lot of back story. Noble team would of made a great Recon like game. The haters will hate...who cares what they think. Ignore them and there games...the world does. Just look at how well Halo sells, including the toys. There is a demand for those products and M$ and 343 studios are just being lazy at this point. E3 2012 will introduce Halo 4 and the " NEW " Microsoft console for Holiday 2012...can't wait.
They're no more milking Halo than Nintendo is milking Mario or Sony is milking God of War.
Ratchet and Clank Jak and Daxter Final Fantasy Dragon Quest God of War Mario first complain about these games being milked brah :)
I deny that the wall next to me is white, yet its color remains the same. Opinions do not change facts.
I don't mind annual releases. I have been buying CoD every year since CoD 4: MW and enjoying every minute of it. I can't wait for CoD: MW3. Is it milking if I enjoy it and don't mind paying for it? Why is it that many gamers want less, not more? If you are true fan, you want more... not less!
except halo has added tons of new features everytime a new game comes out. and usually have different gameplay factors.
If they atleast announced some new IP's or something.
"Then you're a sheep. You're stupid if you don't mind paying for the same, low-quality stuff each year." Nah, it's just that you are a blind sheep to the idea that "everything has to be some kind innovation" despite the fact that almost no games released in the last decade can be considered new or innovative game play except for the Wii and Kinect! You and your irk just like to chant the idea of innovation, yet buy the same game mechanic over and over, just with different titles!
halo is still fun for me and thats all that matters. bungie was solid and they polished their games. if halo came out every year then it would lose its charm imo. maybe one day it will lose it, but for now, id still play a new halo.
unlike Sony and Nintendo MS only got ONE console in the market right now which mean it IS milking but when you got multiple consoles you are BOUND to since you HAVE to pump games into ALL your consoles so its not really milking when you consider each console on its own MS is milking halo ONLY on the 360 they got no other choice its like the only game they got
There's a fine line between milking for the sake of making money, and delivering compelling games that expand the source material. The Halo universe is huge enough that they could easily keep delivering games. And why not... most 360 fans seem to love the series. For me MS are treading a fine line with Halo and while mostly getting it right, they have occasionally taken the piss out of their fans - ODST for example should never have been a full release. My only concern about Halo is that it seems like it's MS' fall back solution, like...'Oh noes we've only got Kinect casual stuff for E3, QUICK throw together a Halo 4 trailer, that'll keep the masses happy'.
@M$, Please listen to "Inside_out", he's right! I want a Halo Wars 2 also! The Halo Universe is massive & has many stories to tell. No shooter on a console today can match the features in Halo games. Bungie made a mistake leaving the Halo Universe, however, I'll buy their new game to give it a chance since they made such great Halo games. SONY fans talked them out of Halo, thats like telling Jordan you cant play Hockey. No, we want Air Jordan playing basketball! I'm glad there are members from Bungie at 343 to continue the Halo Universe!
Here is the problem. GOW has one PS3 game to date. The rest are remastered games. Halo has How many games this generation... Halo3, Halo ODST, Halo Wars, Halo Reach and maybe Halo 4. Halo Anniversary is cool and does not count. Mario has had many games this gen for the Wii already. Galaxy 1 and 2, Mario Kart, Mario party, New Super Mario bros....etc. Halo and Mario have saturated their respective companies systems however, IF the quality is there no one cares.
i dont care about saturation, i care about quality, and thus far halo has always been a quality title. me and tons of others have loved every single game that has come out.
so...got milk ?
What is bad about milking a game? I love Mario, Uncharted and Gears of War. I want more games using these franchises because I am a fan. I would pay for 3 mario, uncharted or gears of war games each year if I could. The only bad thing is when you have a franchise like Guitar hero or COD and you don't know how to really improve it, and then you will have the same game every year with minimal changes. I can't talk about Halo because I don't like/play it, but, milking is only bad if you don't know how to improve your games.
you guys REALLY need to understand the difference between milking and making more games in the same universe. i cant see any real proof of milking here. tons of upgrades ? buyable skills ? worthless missionpacks ? unlock all items ? sorry i cant see a milking method here.
@Stonecold: Don't comment on topics you don't understand. There was no Halo in 2008. I'm going to have to disagree. All the Halo games that have come out so far have had a minimum of 2 and a half years of dev time, which is more than Treyarch or Infinity Ward can attest to with their 18-22 month dev cycles. 2007 was the last time we saw Master Chief. 2012 will be when he returns, and it's been in development from late 2007/early 2008. But we're on Call of Duty XXX, Final Fantasy XXX, and Resistance, and Uncharted are in their THIRD installments for this generation. Besides, MS is remaking Halo CE in celebration of Halo's 10th anniversary. Again, I fail to see what the problem is. Don't want it? Don't buy it. Simple. The key here folk is mindshare. All the companies know that if they've got you talking about their game, you'll talk to your friends, and they will talk to their friends, and so forth. Right now, keeping your prized franchises in the hearts and minds of your customers is the way you garner big sales. As Excalibur said, they are all businesses, and as long as interest is shown in their products, they will continue to make them. Simple.
"There used to be breathing space between Halo games (Halo 1 2001, Halo 2 2004, Halo 3 2007), but in recent years Microsoft has been flinging the IP at us: Halo Wars 2009, Halo 3: ODST 2009 and Halo: Reach 2010. With the E3 announcements of Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary (Halo 1 remake) coming this year and Halo 4 in autumn 2012" I believe that is milking uncharted had 2 games so far with 2 year dev cycles and resistance the same 2 year dev cycle with the third one being 3 years!
uncharted had 2 games but now has 4 with the one for the vita god of war has 5 and a another one in the works, socom never dies no matter how bad it gets and assassin's creed has 4 games now with no end to the plot line in sight thing is aside from assassin's creed these are big exclusive franchises everyone will cry if they stop them and everyone is crying if they make another people just need to shut up and play it or don't halo 4 is the start of a new trilogy with master chief is im interested on where they will take the story
@ femshep You know i dont care if the milk is good i will drink the milk
I'm glad someone could make sense out of stonecold's comment.
@Clizzz: Totally true. The only reason people see it differently from every other developer/publisher that does it is because of personal bias imo.
It's not how often, it's how MANY. When there start to be more than 4 games in a series, it becomes worn out and not-special anymore.
M$ is hardly the Lone Ranger. COD? Assassin's Creed? Just to name a few. M$ and other companies are in business to make $$$ and as long as folks keep coming back for more they will continue making said product. It's business 101.
Wow one good answer how you got the disagree i dont understand.
every company is guilty of the milk treatment
All I care about is whether the milk tastes good. Insomniac for example, seems to make games on an assembly line, but I've liked most of their games.
Is it really a bad thing. I mean how many mario games must there be before we complained about nintendo doing it.
They weren't exactly the same genre in the games though, that's NOT saying that he isn't milked either btw. Mario works as an rpg, a puzzle game, racing, etc. Only other thing Master Chief did was being in a console RTS.
So odst was a different kind of fps in a hub world. And Halo wars was a RTS.
Master Chief is not in Halo Wars.
@palaeomerus I know that. I was stating that in relation to the earlier comparison. Honestly to tell you the truth, I LIKED Halo Wars in comparison to others that had outcries over it.
Seriously, Three words, "Mario's Time Machine" Don't get me wrong there are some good long time franchises out there that are really good. But Mario definitely had some 'milk' games. I consider a company milking a IP when they start making crappy products for it. That is why I picked on Mario's Time Machine. Because the only thing going for that game was the IP Mario.
Hahaahahahahaha Milking Halo?! What a funny thing to say in an industry populated by so many Italian plumber, football and gridiron, and WWII shooters!
I just can't understand why people keep bitching about a company who keeps making what people want. It's all about supply & demand. If there was no demand for Halo there probably wouldn't be any more Halo. But this is what people want and people buy and MS is giving this to the people. I don't think that any Halo fan feels like they are being milked. Same story with COD or any other game in fact. You can't blame a business if they want to make money in that way. It's one thing when they do first day DLC for outrageous prices and withhold content on purpose so they can sell you a key later on as DLC to unlcock it. Now that is milking and is dirty business and no one should be buying that. But as for a whole new game and an HD remake. Come on! Oh and if you think a successful franchise can't fail because of the name than look no further than Guitar Hero.
Milking Halo? Yea right. I don't play much Halo if ever but it's certainly not being milked. Games that are being milked dry are games like Call of Duty and my personal favorite... FINAL FANTASY.
I don't think they are milking anything. Realistically there has been one true Halo game every three years. Halo 3 in 2007, Halo Reach in 2010 and we will get Halo 4 in 2012. The thing is, Halo 4 was in production by 343 even while Bungie was working on Reach. Seriously if Halo is milked then what is Uncharted, Resistance, God Of War and Killzone? Those franchises have turned out sequels in a shorter time then Halo or any other franchise.
You are delusional if you think Uncharted, Resistance, God of War and Killzone are milked as much aas Halo. Uncharted - 2 games released for PS3 (1 more announced) Resistance - 2 games released for PS3 (1 more announced) God of War - 2 games released on PS3 Killzone - 2 games released on PS3 Halo - 4 games released on 360 (2 more announced)
I like how you slant it as (1 more announced) Bottom line is there are only as of right now 2 Halo games that are new on the 360. Halo Reach and Halo 3. ODST is an expansion pack and Halo Wars is an RTS. God Of War which had 2 games on PS2, 2 on PSP and another title on the PS3, then they re released the PS2 versions in "HD" and put it on the PS3 and now they are porting PSP games to the PS3. That's 5 God OF War titles on the PS3. With the strong possibility of a full God Of War 4 title next year. Uncharted is about to have it's 3rd PS3 release in 4 years and a PS Vita game. Sly Cooper has how many games? 4, 5? We get the 3rd Resistance title this generation on PS3 and 2 handheld versions? Nobody can say Halo is milked without taking a realistic look in the mirror. It's obvious people like Halo and want more Halo, which is why it sells so well. It's just fanboyism to say Halo is milked but no PS3 titles are...
Notice I only included THIS generation HOME CONSOLES (360 and PS3) as Microsoft does not currently have a handheld so you can't count those. I also did not include last gen because it was LAST gen. I did forget to add the PSP Remaster of GOW that was announced for PS3. Tha would make 3 GOW games for PS3. I am sorry for the oversight. I do own Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3: ODST and Halo: Reach in case you want to try and spin it as me being a fanboy or something.
Of course ms is milking halo how many halo games this gen have been made for 360? 4 including halo 4 which will be out 2012 I have not included halo 1 remake because that's just a hd remastered game ported from the original xbox & for all those that added god of war there has only been 1 true god of war game on the ps3 the collection was just hd remastered they don't count & the new upcoming collection was originally on psp resistance & uncharted are new ips which only began this generation. the fact is ms needs to come out with new ips instead of always releasing a forza fable or halo sequel I would of mentioned gears but I can't get enough it that's why I still have an xbox.
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If Halo 4 comes with Kinect interactivity, they may as well come clean. Simple as that.
I am a big Halo fan. If people want to think Halo is a milked franchise, then so be it. Milk away I say. Just keep giving me the same awesome experience that I have had with each game and expand the story. P.S. Please give us Halo Wars 2 with a bit more support to help with some of the balancing issues.
assasins creed is milked like a mofo halo is milked and only halo reach seem to be an upgrade on graphics but all look identicle uncharted isnt milked and every one see's a great improvment god of was isnt milked thier are three main stories on two consoles the others are on portible soo i dnt see it as milked and the remakes dnt count call of duty isnt really milked because thier are different devs makeing different stories resistance if you say its milked ur and ass and even gears isnt milked they take time to make diff one if odst is a expansion why did you all pay $60 for it?????
To be fair, Halo Wars, Halo ODST, and Halo Reach did come out consecutively over 3 years, but all were either made by different companies, or (in ODST's case) just an expansion. None of them were rushed or just put out to make money. Milking seems to imply a decline in quality in order to make a quick money grab, but every single Halo game has so far been relatively AAA. If they keep quality up, honestly I don't care if one comes out every year.
The "ODST is just an expansion" claim went out the windo when they decided to charge $60 for it.
Hmmm, I guess your right. Perhaps, "expansion-sized" is a better word. $60 was ridiculous.
What I consider "milking" is constantly releasing rehashes of the same game, which I like to call, "the Activision effect". Rushed games with hardly any changes what so ever i.e. COD, Guitar Hero etc Halo, in my opionion, isn't being milked.
I do not like Halo at all. I find them very boring FPSers. However, I do not think that they are milking it. All Halo's either continues the story or sets it from another perspective (minus the Halo 1 remake). That makes it "expanding the Halo universe" and not milking.
Modern Warfare 2 was a continuation of the COD4 story.
all i want to know is...why is there no COOKIES!?
The same people that are complaining are the same people that buy the Halo games. So how in the hell if a franchise is successful and bring money to Microsoft not to be continued.
Why WOULDNT they milk this game? Its the ONLY good game they have! Imagine an Xbox WITHOUT Halo?? Since they cant make anything new that will stick to people theyre just gonna keep making the same game over again! If theres no Halo on the next console forget it, youre gonna be looking at a failed console.
There are about 20+ franchises that have been milked far worse than Halo. Start in the 80's with Nintendo and work your way into the 90's and 2000's with Sony. Then you can talk about Halo being milked. The millions of people that are buying the games don't seem to have a problem. If its successful then it hasn't been milked enough. When a Halo game sells a million copies only, then its milked. And by industry standards thats still a huge success for most games.
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