While Molyneux is somewhat infamous within the gaming world for dreaming big and delivering games that never quite live up to his ideas, he is an earnest and passionate creator who wants nothing more than to engage players in a tangible fantasy.
Because he's a lying liarface.
Well I'm not going to call him a liar but I have seen footage of him running around with his pants on fire. http://images1.wikia.nocook...
Molyneux is a pathological liar, he just cant stop
the combat/action portions are clearly on rails, controlling characters movement to access levels does not mean that it's not on rails, you might as well be scrolling through menues
It seems like you can choose to drive cart to different locations. But once you get off and go into combat, it is on rails. So it is still on rails.
It's ONLY during the combat sections.....geeeeeeez! You can still waddle about through areas. What's more important? lol
he asked people to sign if they believed that the game will not be on rails...he didnt force anyone to sign it, but asked those that did show up if they believe his word i think that the game wont be on rails...too much pride in that guy...he is over dramatic and his vision for what a game should deliver can be unattainable yet he believes that the effort his studio puts in is what he states...there's the disconnect.... we'll see how this game will pan out...the kinect portion HAS to be optional tho...if its required, then the game will not sell the way that MS and Molyneux envision
Jackpot! You guys got it right. It looks like you can choose where you are going as in which path to follow so technically not on-rails. But still not really freedom of movement, just as everyone was emplying... I love Fable, really do, but Molyneux just failed big time trying to cover that crap, we can still smell it.
i'm not a big fable fan. every since fable 1 didn't come close to his promises...and i mean...it didn't deliver 5% of what he said it would be, i just don't care for the franchise. i think you really have to project into the game to make it better than it actually is. with that said, i think this looks like a potentially fun rail game. i'll never buy a kinect or a move and have no interest in motion gaming; but if a friend had this game, i'd really enjoy playing it, i think.
Peter Molyneux: "Jedi Mind Trick Activate" Journalists: "OH SHI-"
lolz funny comment what makes it more funny is that starwars is on rails too
Ill believe it when i see it.
What if it turns out that a vast majority of reviews and comments from people who've played it once its out say that its on rails? I Molyneux going to come back say that he was wrong and apologize? Much like he's done with pretty much every Fable game after the first?
Peter is kind of a crazy person
So it's pretty much on rails, huh.
There is a difference between having a game not be on rails on Kinect and some of the other things he's said in the past. The technology was just not there with the original Xbox and even in some ways with the Xbox 360. You cant blame the guy for dreaming or thinking big. I love the Fable series and will at least give the Kinect game a chance. I was hoping for some more titles to utilize Kinect, having titles I am familiar with already like Forza and Fable make it all the easier. We've seen that games like Rise Of Nightmares and Ryse aren't on rails, so it's possible.
WTF how come you've only got one bubble? + bubble.
Because he is a troll and deserves only one bubble
haha NiKK ohh you've got one bubble too dude.
Says 1 bubble NiKK_419
Thought for sure Ryse was on rails but I'm only basing that off what was shown. Perhaps MS should have made that clear. It's like they don't know that gamers have concerns about controlling characters with Kinect.
Peter Molyneux:The Journey Is ‘Not’ On Rails Pretty sure that confirms its on rails. In other interviews he says and I quote "the action comes to you". I'm pretty damn sure that's the same thing as on "on rails". Just cause you can choose rail A, rail B, or rail C doesn't mean it's not on rails. I swear this guy can sell shit to a bullshitter.
alternate paths doesn't change the fact that it's "on rails".. the game is "on rails " simple as that ..if it's not then how do you move ? by choosing a path ? then it's on rails ..
I'm glad someone said it. Is a train not on rails because it can choose which tunnel it moves through? On rails means you don't have freedom of movement. That's what this is. *edit Also, the fact that he needed that board signed comes off as really pathetic. "Right guys, it isn't on rails? Tell them it isn't on rails! I'm not lying, it's not on rails!!"
Please peter don't screw this up...there still is a ray of hope yet. Because the demo was horrible.
Actually I watched G4's E3 edition of Feedback and one of Adams Sesslers criticism on Microsoft part was how the new Fable games was shown. He goes on to say that the new Fable is in fact NOT an "on rails" game based of his hands on demo of the game itself, but due to how it was presented on stage AND in "the interest of time" it was shown that way.
bubble for you!
Well the truth of how it plays will be revealed soon anyway. I personally don't care since I do not own an Xbox 360. Thought I'd share that tidbit of information here on N4G BUT then again, IT IS N4G. My sharing of a piece of "truthful information" or being non partisan would be like trying to convince an atheist that there is a God :S
Funny, because Molyneux even confirmed that the demo shown was ON rails. I want to know what demo Adam was playing, because the demo shown is the only build that exist. . .
I didn't vote one way or another, but I think the reason you're getting downvotes is because Sessler is considered by many to be a hardcore MS fanboy, which kind of makes his word shit. Especially when paired with the fact that (as mentioned in 9.2) the demo shown was on rails. It's the only reason I didn't vote up, as it does sound like a legit and honest contribution to the discussion. Thank god I'm not a judge, it doesn't take much to convince me haha. Bub for helpfulness though!
Just going by what Sessler said which I agree IS hearsay BUT what does he have top gain by saying that its not since again that more will be revealed about the game which would end all the speculations if the game is an "on rails" or not. I also remember him mentioning that you even interact with the horse in the game as well. Again vote me down and disagree all you want. I REALLY DON'T CARE. Just reiterating what I heard and saw. I don't have anything to gain from this either. God forbid I participate on a discussion forum.
@Octo1 I wasn't criticizing dude, just trying to take a stab at why so many people disagreed...
His promises used to be way more ambitious than "it's not on rails". Microsoft should not have Lionhead working on Kinect games.
The thing is the guy "thinks" too big. I think he has all these amazing ideas, he gets excited and he hits the 360 limits before he can even get started on his "amazing" idea. I would honestly love to see what he's actually capable of, I wish he could do at least one PS3/Wii U exclusive and see if it works out in the end.
He should do a PC exclusive so that he might actually be able to make a game that has everything he promises.
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Well something less than 6-10 years old.
His Ideas while good is poorly executed or misinterpreted by him as innovative/very awesome. He just need somebody to properly translate his ideas to gameplay mechanics or more time to develop his ideas until they are as good as he makes it sound.
Sooo...its on rails?
"assured us that the actual game would incorporate full character movement" <----- There is a gaming device on the market that is so sad that devs need to assure people of being able to fully control their character in videogames....
This guy seems legit. He made cool games likes Fable, he'd never lie about anything.
Even if the final game is not "on rails" and you can walk by leaning in a particular direction... this implementation will most likely be pretty clumsy and cumbersome. I doubt they can achieve any precision this way but we will see.
I miss the Peter who produced Syndicate and Populous.
sounds lame lol
"Dream Big"? Lets not kid ourselves, this guy is a straight-up liar! like Lekumkee said, the leaning that Moluneux discussed is probably a way to choose between different rails. He always tries to use words to make things sound better than what they really are, but Im not buying it anymore. Im really starting to believe that this guy is insulting my intelligence. He basically thinks that since there is more than 1 rail to travel on, that it isn't considered on rails. A wipe board full of signatures is not going get me to believe him. I need to see a full demo before I will believe it. Im not saying that the kinect cant do games with full maneuverability. . . I've seen "Rise of Nightmares" and the controls for moving are pretty cool and well done. I just dont trust Molyneux. Hes a lair that makes great games, liars cant be trusted.
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