OXM UK: The ever-divisive Peter Molyneux has spoken out once again about Fable: The Journey's E3 stage demo.
This is all well and good, but why not just show the game properly if you wanted it done differently?
The game itself looks horrendous..
I had the same thought. I don't think there was any way to make that game look like it was fun to play.
xbox fanboys are still going to defend it now please go make me another Black & White on PC thanks
Sure, he is honest about it at least...
@Trollpolice, you're trying too hard.
I always wonder if this site is made of kids why does it seem like no on this site can read? Pete is talking about the demo causing people to misunderstand the game. This remark probably comes from his demo and interview with Morgan Webb. People found out this is not on rails during the Morgan e3 stage demo and everybody changed their minds about fable for the good. This is what Pete is talking about. Man ps3 fanboys are a nasty bunch. Disgusting
Only the important parts, like Combat as seen in the demo, are on-rails. No big deal. /s The fans wanted a game more like Fable 1. Instead, you gave them a Kinect game with extremely easy and automatic combat in on-rails situations. By the by, sounds like they're in a wind tunnel.
I love the world of Fable, so... whatever...
the funny thing is that what was shown was on rails it probably has exploration and other aspect that work differently but the combat/gameplay IS on rails
Nice that he actually realises how crappy it is unlike the rest of the peeps at MS who actually seem to believe that the stuff they showed at E3 was cool.
SuperLupe did not read the article.
Kids don't read enough these days. That's literacy rates are falling.
This game is a horrendous mistake.
Everything about Fable is a horrendous mistake. Every Fable release is hyped like crazy, and yet it manages to underwhelm every time.
I would have to disagree with that... Fable series has been very good in my eyes. Now I can't say the same about Too Human which had an ok demo but the game just fell totally flat.
No games like lair and haze are horrendous mistakes. Fable is a franchise that is generally well received.
Nilamo Haze=terrbad lair + motion control = bad Lair + Controller = pretty fun game. don't hate on something i can almost guarantee you haven't played
Lair(post patch) was awesome, and so was kangaroo jack. Both bashed by people who have never experienced them.
Damage Control at its finest molyneux im so proud to be british right now lol
@Trollpolice You're one corrupt troll cop
He thought it was great until everyone at E3 kept telling him it was on-rails...
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A non-linear first-person Fable? I believe there's one out already. It's called The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion.
A huge part of the Fable games(for me anyhow) is Lionhead humor and mirth. While I enjoyed Oblivion, it lacks humor. My favorite quest in Fable 3 is the Chicken suit quest, and I can't think of any quest like that in Oblivion.
But you have to make sure you know the difference between adding humour to a game and adding Jar Jar Binks!
Fable humor is mostly second hand Discworld stuff.
extremely insulting to Bethesda. FAble was never a deep RPG. It sowed signs in the first, but never had anything close to the content TESIV had.
The problem is he big his games up so much and doesn't actually deliver on his promises. He did it with black and white. O saw what he wanted us to see and that was an on rail magic ride. You might be able to steer the horse down different directions but there is no evidence of you can actually move where ever you want. If you want us to believe you show us some video because your word is meaningless
Stop with that BS already. Always hear the same thing from you guys. The last time he hyped a game to death was with Fable 1. Its some sort of myth on this site that Molyneux hypes all his games to death when that is simply completely false. He is known for doing that with Fable 1 and thats it. Just goes to show you dont have a clue what you're talking about and simply mindlessly repeating the crap you here. @iamnsuperman below: there's a difference between marketing your product and overhyping a game. In that case the PS3 is the most overhyped console of this generation if I follow what you say. He hasnt overhyped a game since Fable 1, hell Milo isnt even a game but some kind of project they are aiming at with Kinect.
Don't feed the trolls. That troll in particular says something in his post that indicates to me that he has never even played a Fable game, for even a couple of minutes. So his word on Fable games has even less merit than Molyneux.
O really so Milo and Kate wasn't over hyped. I am not sure if he believes himself that his games are revolutionary or he knows he is bs but they are not. They are far more linear than he makes them out to be. he makes good games but what I am saying is he should cut the bs and show something.
I'm not sure about the other games, but He sure as hell did Hype the crap out of Fable 2. That game is the reason I will never touch Fable 3 or any game of his again. It was an atrocity imo.
@iamnsuperman Who hyped Milo and Kate? It was a tech demo FFS. The only people that hype crap are the fanboys, some of which live on this site. You want to see who hypes games? Rockstar. Their videos of L.A. Noire and RDR screamed hype. For me though both games lived up to it, so it was good hype for me.
Got to agree with you PhearR3d. They weren't over hyped. The things he pointed out most were actually in the game. Fable 2 he touted the combat animation based on proximity and position. and it actually worked. not amazingly but it did work, standing near a wall would make the character jump off it to attack when doing flourishes. People take the negative image he has from overhyping fable 1 and condemn him. If you don't like fable maybe, just maybe, it's just a game you don't like. I get bored stupid playing GTA4 but I bet you all have good things to say about that? opinion are opinions. I know fable is not a perfect game, controls and fluidity need work but I enjoyed playign all 3 fables. a nice art style, simple and witty story. fun to play and waste some time. what's wrong with that exactly?
"The last time he hyped a game to death was with Fable 1" So the acorns made it into Fable 2, and they grew and died continuously and independently? Please. Pete didn't stop at Fable 1.
@ElectricB Most people got bored playing GTA4, its why everyone was calling shenanigans on all the 10/10 scores.
SIlent negotiator, the acorn bollocks WAS the fable 1 hype. Tere was kinda an acron that grew into a grew as the story went on in fable 2, not realtime but would you really want a real time try that you needed 30 years of gameplay to see grow? @BigPenguin: That is true but it isn't brought up after every rockstar game is announced? Lionhead can't mention a thing without the world screaming. it'll never live up to the hype. regardless of there being no hype at all.
kind of feel bad for him, the game looks awful..but still
Some times this guy is a little too humble. Well at least he's not afraid to admit it.
Kinect a "horrendous mistake" - fixed Peter
I actually wouldnt mind Kinect if it hadnt resulted in MS abandoning the hardcore and putting all their ressources into casual gaming.
I applaud your honesty on the matter and i 100% agree. Its a catch 22 though if they treated as a add-on history would probably shows its face again and it would be forgotten so they put everything behind it to make sure that doesn't happen and what you get is a casual item that alienates the fans who got them to where they are. lets not kid 360 fans Pre kinect were not the same as Wii fans.
Got to agree with Blacktar there. You'd vilify MS for abandoning kinect shouting I told you so.. You jsut got to let them run with this. they are after another audience now. The standard hardcore developers aren't gonna change what they make. You'll still get hardcore games. MS hasn't really been massive on hardcore games to be honest and I don't think they have dropped it over kinect. just there is so much kinect on top it looks bad. The only hardcore games from MS studios are gonna be the forzas, the fables, the halos. can you really name any others? Gears don't count as it's an epic game not msgs. I'm not complaining just pointing out that directly ms made hardcore games are few and far between as far as franchises go. I love my xbox and I don't even own a ps3. But you can't blame ms for putting so much into kinect, they aren't gonna throw away their investment all these years. it's a product not directly aimed at the hardcore. so chill, most of the games you play are 3rd party anyway.
you see, MS barley supports hardcore exclusives now and they barley did BEFORE kinnect as well. Forza 4, gears 3 and Halo CE HD are about as much support for the end of the year that MS has ever given to the "hardcore" at once. I love how people on this site act like MS was supporting "hardcore" exclusives like crazy before kinnect was released, BECAUSE THEY NEVER WERE. If you think about it, the second half of this year is one of the BIGGEST EVER for "hardcore" games that the 360 has ever had. Halo HD, GEARS 3, FORZA 4, shit tons of hardcore multiplats including the witcher 2, arcade games etc, and even wanna be "hardcore" kinnect games. the fact is that MS is supporting hardcore just as much as they did before kinnect, THEY STILL BARLEY SUPPORT hardcore exclusives. They HAVE saved 3 of their biggest for the end of the year like they have done in the past. Pretend like they dropped all this support for the "hardcore" and you are pretending like they had alot of support to begin with
Atleast he is being honest about it, more than I can say about alot of other developers. Hopefully he will take time to improve the game.
the game is on rails. You frickin pretend you are riding a horse........ it doesnt get much more than a mistake than that Molyneux made 1 good game and people think he is a good developer when in reality, hes a joke
Uhm, he's actually made quite a few good games ..
what black and white? Then then fale where each game has gotten worse reviews fable 3 is a 70 game
Since when was 70/100 a bad score???
Remove "demo" from the title and the statement remains just as true.
Its an on rails shooter.
Watching him make journalists sign his "its not on rails" wall is one of the most pathetic/tragic sights ive ever seen in gaming.
Your telling me. This guy is a serious con man. I am tired of listening to him cry crocodile tears over what could of or might have been. He is always pretending that the game isn't that great so you could say 'oh it's all right, you did okay don't fuss about it' and buy in to whatever he does. It is on rails, I sat down and watched it myself. But as usual we must sit back and make excuses for Kinect because of what it is.Medieval Moves is getting flack for being 'on rails' from everyone but that's because it's a Move game. Defend Kinect, tear Move apart. Why am I not surprised?
What bothers me is Peter listening to the haters...who cares what they think. No matter what you make, if it's not on their console, it will be bad.
Make your game Peter...it will sell millions just like the rest of your games.
I thought the demo looked fantastic and played great. Fans of the franchise are going to love it. The art style of that game is just incredible. M$ is lucky to have Peter and his passion.
I think you can cash out your cheque now.
Wow it's not allowed to be positive anymore??? Let the guy have is own opinion.
Make Fable 4 and make it a challenging game, unlike Fabel 2 and 3 and forget about Kinect.
I absolutely agree,though I did enjoy Fable II.
SO did i, more so than Fable 3.
I think most people did. Fable 3 was definitely the worst fable IMO.
i enjoyed all the fables but part 2 ohh that part 2 had so many game ruining glitches i wanted to die. I got the slow walk glitch 2 times saddest moment ever and it was always past 1/2 like when you get ut in that crazy prison
This guy seems to always regret his games. One question though. Why cant a game on rails be good if done right? Most ppl on here are just like peter always crying about something, unless its about the ps3 of course.
On rails is specifically the problem. The Wii had a ton of on rails shooters and, while they worked, the PS3/360 were getting Dead Space while Wii was getting Dead Space Extraction. There's nothing specifically wrong with on rails games, but this is 2011 and we're somehow gone back to Time Crisis-esque games. I would also say, a lot of these "on rails" games have the same problem the "on rails" games had on Wii, these were the "Core games" that were promised. It's also a problem when the "core games" on Kinect were ALL on rails.
I personally think that on-rails has its own distinctive feel. It can be a good or a bad thing depending on the game. Games like Time Crisis and House of the dead have always been fun, and the constraints of on rails doesn't ruin the experience, it perceives a challenge and gameplay goal in a different way that a normal shooter doesn't have. To me they are just different styles, not different layers of quality per say.
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