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Submitted by Queasy 1326d ago | news

Kojima: Modern Warfare 3 an 'action play', Battlefield 3 a 'documentary'

XMNR: Konami luminary Hideo Kojima has seen enough of both Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 and Battlefield 3 to make put them in their own unique categories of gaming and it's an interesting take on the rival franchises from Activision and Electronic Arts. (Battlefield 3, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, E3, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

Foxgod  +   1326d ago
Well sorth of, Battlefield is indeed more photo realistic.
COD is more hollywoodish. \\But why does Koijima go on about this subject?

He isnt really affiliated with shooters.
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Nate-Dog  +   1326d ago
He has a certain interest in Western gaming. He said a while ago (at least I'm around 95% sure it was Kojima that said it) that Eastern developers, Japanese in particular, have been lacking in the past few years and that the Western developers have surpassed them in their motivation and desire to make better games each time around.
HeavenlySnipes  +   1326d ago
I think
that Capcom guy said that...
ATiElite  +   1326d ago
And the European Developers have passed the Western Devs as far as Quality and Innovation in video games.

DICE, CD Projekt Red, CCP, 4A Games, GSC, Bohemia Interactive and many many more. Euro Devs are the best Devs right now. I think Valve was the last American Dev i bought a game from.
Upbeat  +   1326d ago
erm metal gear solid is a shooter
The Killer   1326d ago | Off topic | show
thugbob  +   1326d ago
In terms of quality BF3 > MW3 hands down before both games are even out.

The CoD series is being milked. Year after year there is a new title there is no way they have enough time to make a quality title and Activison is capitalizing on it and I predict that one day they will release a blank CD with manure smeared on it stamped with *CoD:MW* and I bet it'll sell millions!
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EVILDEAD360  +   1326d ago
'Year after year there is a new title there is no way they have enough time to make a quality title'

@ Thubob..

There are two developers that have been on a two year cycle..there is enough time for them to make quality titles and they have. Naughty
Dog's Uncharted is on a two year cycle as well and I'm sure no one would complain abojut their quality.

Two year is standard in the climate.

What's interesting is seeing the different teams that are working with Infiinity ward this time. This franchise is the number onew selling game on Both the 360 and the PS3.

No matter how much hate these games get and we know where it originated, they still entertain millions and now even BF3 will stop this Billion dollars franchise.

BF3 looks great as well..but I know I'll own both

Evil
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   1326d ago
@TheKiller

We're talking about Battlefield 3, Modern Warfare 3, and hideo Kojima here.

Take your political bullshit somewhere else where it's more appropriate
AzaziL  +   1326d ago
@The Killer
Saw on your comments before on how you liked CoD, so I guess your cool with playing as a terrorist that slaughters civilians at an airport but you got your panties in a bunch because this game is based in Iraq and the enemy is the insurgents and Iran.
ChrisW  +   1326d ago
We all know that DICE makes better FPSs than Infinity. Or at least fans of BF or partially unbias people.
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SephirothX21  +   1326d ago
Lol @ the killer
I haven't seen such a level of retardation from an individual for a long time.
lve2playbball  +   1325d ago
@ The Killer

Wow, you are retarded.
ChrisW  +   1325d ago
The Killer seems like one of those guys who believed that the world was going to end last May.
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   1325d ago
@upbeat

You probably got confused over MGS4 gameplay which CAN be played as a shooter, although you can also play through it almost without firing your guns.

Or maybe you through of MGO...

Anyway, all Metal Gear games released so far were Stealth Action games. Maybe Rising will be the exception (althrough even that will definetely have stealth elements).
RockmanII7  +   1325d ago
Heavenly is right too, I remember Kenji Inafune said something very similar and I think it was the reason why he left Capcom.
awi5951  +   1325d ago
@ EVILDEAD360

There is a huge diffrence between the uncharted developers and the Cod factories. The uncharted developers made their own game. These COD factory companies are just a bunch of banana riders that stole all the tech from the real infinity ward, Jason West and Vince Zampella, and wrangled themselves a mod out of assets they got from infinity ward and called it a game. Thats why its the same old engine same old everything because they dont have the talent. And they cant steal ideas or tech from Jason West and Vince Zampella.
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iamnsuperman  +   1326d ago
I agree it is more photo realistic but I wouldn't compare BF3 to a documentary. Still an unrealistic game. MW3 is defiantly more hollywoodish than BF3
lil Titan  +   1326d ago
looks like ill be playing a "Documentary" on my "Movie Theater" http://n-europe.com/forum/s...
sikbeta  +   1326d ago
HA! Kojima is a BF fanboy lol :P
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ChrisW  +   1325d ago
Kojima knows which publisher is better, that's why he's a BF fanboy.
soundslike  +   1326d ago
because recently people mine twitter for blog fodder.

can't say I like the idea of every somewhat-interesting tweet being submitted... maybe N4G should have a popular tweet stream section so that submissions aren't as flooded. This kind of thing is just as annoying as trolling for hits with out-of-context interviews....except:

"Hey look an interview!

oh wait its just a retweet passing off as news with a super generalized analysis for the 1000th time"

Stay retarded N4G
_Q_  +   1326d ago
I'm not gonna go into this too much but Metal Gear
is (and always has been)based loosely on our(USA) past military endeavors interwoven with MG's story to coincide within our real history. This alone takes an incredible amount of research to come up with concepts that are sound when it translate to a good story. Given that he writes quite a bit of the series, i'd expect Kojima to be well versed in western military knowledge after this many iterations of MG. Maybe he knows a thing or to about the military and games based around them....Just maybe.

Lol So much for not going into it too much.
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pain777pas  +   1326d ago
The quality is there now for BF3 but what if EA ends up successful? We'll have to see what happens then.
JOHN_DOH  +   1326d ago
@ATiElite
Yeah devs from Europe are putting out good stuff, I think maybe because Europe PC is more popular and in the US consoles seem to be more popular
HardCover  +   1325d ago
I don't know why he goes on about it, but it reminds me of when Killzone 2 was getting all the attention.

Kojima played it at a show and said it was one badass game. Guess he simply likes the visceral FPS games that aren't obstinately generic.
thesummerofgeorge  +   1325d ago
Foxgod - You don't have to make FPS' to have an opinion on them.
Urmomlol  +   1326d ago
What does that make Metal Gear Solid?

A poorly written book?
Ser  +   1326d ago
Nah, I'd call it an enormous DVD boxset of a very deep TV series with a lot of bonus content.

There's a lot of story in the MGS universe, and I love every second of it.
killerhog  +   1326d ago
The mgs story gotten stale to me unfortunately. Just couldn't get into 3/4.
NarooN  +   1326d ago
More like a long-running TV series of doom.

The only real low point of the series was 4, where pretty much the entire game was just Kojima trying to explain his way out of the many retcons and plot holes he established in the previous games (including MG1 and 2).

Still was a decent game though.

*cue 50 million disagrees*
bangoskank  +   1326d ago
Couldn't agree more. The gameplay in MGS4 was fantastic but once those cut scenes kicked in I was equally parts embarrassed and bored.
Nate-Dog  +   1326d ago
Agreed aswell. MGS4 was a good game, but in comparison with previous MGS games it just wasn't as good as it could and should have been. The addition of Portable Ops and Peace Walker (and surely Peace Walker 2) hasn't impressed me either; PO was full of retcons too, and Peace Walker was a completely pointless game despite Kojima's claims of it being so important in regards to Outer Heaven. All we see is the beginning of it, and that's at the end of the game, and the rest of the game is full of unimportant and unmemorable characters and plot. It was still a good PSP game but storywise it just is going downhill in my opinion. It was supposed to end at MGS2, and didn't, then was supposed to end at MGS3 and didn't, and MGS4 was Snake's finale and surely MGS's finale but Kojima couldn't stop there could he? (Not saying no more Metal Gear Solid games should have ever been made / should ever be made, but this current series and current story has gone on too long.
Takoulya  +   1326d ago
I still maintain that MGS4 was a true masterpiece. I still remember all of the truly emotional moments, all the cinematic dialogues. "I'm not a hero... never was, never will be." The story was on par with the other MG's, as well. The only reason it seems like it's bad was because it was based farther into the future, a much grander scale than the previous iterations, and made into an amazing set piece.
Gamer_Z  +   1326d ago
@Urmomlol

More like a bad Anime
Takoulya  +   1326d ago
And of course, two people come in and bash the most artistically crafted game this generation.
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nihonlight  +   1326d ago
I think its a slight mistranslation.
He might have just been trying to say " more true to life"
Don't take it literal. We all know what he's talking about.
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_Q_  +   1326d ago
Of course its a metaphor. And its pretty dead on the mark.

This issue is many people drawn to the COD series would never finish MGS. Yes there are folks who have come across the series but I know so many people who are into mainly FPS who know nothing about the real meat of the MGS series and just wouldnt care thus so many people coming in talking as if Kojima wouldnt know anything about military games. Pretty dumb.
RememberThe357  +   1326d ago
Haha I like that. It kind of sums up their different approaches.
WhiteLightning  +   1326d ago
If the guys i actualy interested in Western gaming I wonder what he thinks of Uncharted 2/3
LarVanian  +   1326d ago
He would probably be very impressed with the graphics and art direction and may even comment on how much it feels like a Hollywood blockbuster.
Queasy  +   1326d ago
He pretty much put in the same category as COD.
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Queasy  +   1326d ago
To the disagrees, read the quote. He mentions COD and Uncharted in the exact. same. sentence.
Takoulya  +   1325d ago
Except one is actually claiming to render "Modern Warfare."

Complete bullshit.
HeavenlySnipes  +   1326d ago
Basically
MW3 is more like a Michael Bay movie
BF3 is more like The Hurt Locker

One focuses one the explosions and gun fights that are always fast and one sided, one focuses on the tactical side of war, presenting real life situations for the audience to see and experience
STK026  +   1326d ago
And both have their fanbase, feature a different approach and they both are fun in different ways. Also, while one is likely to get critical acclaim, the other one is likely to make much more cash.
thugbob  +   1326d ago
I'm glad to own a game that is critically acclaimed as opposed to one that made a lot money, money that I'll never get to see....
Takoulya  +   1326d ago
Critically acclaimed doesn't necessarily mean good. A lot of critics only look for what's beneath the movie, failing to judge whether the movie was enjoyable as a whole or not.
user8397144  +   1326d ago
with all due respect mr kojima I dont care what you say
LarVanian  +   1326d ago
With all due respect I doubt Mr Kojima is even aware that you exist and will most definitely never hear of your opinion :).
caboose32  +   1326d ago
OHH SNAAAAAP!!!
Jack-Dangerously  +   1326d ago
What a dork.

OT: I love mgs. But I couldn't care less what he has to say about BF3 OR COD.
LarVanian  +   1326d ago
@ Jack
Great, thanks for your input. It makes perfect sense for you to state that you don't care about Kojima's opinion but still comment on a news article about it :D
Jack-Dangerously  +   1326d ago
Lol @ "Mr. Kojima" haha. Sorry I couldn't help it.

And I'm sure he has no idea of your sad worship of him. He has no idea YOU exist... Ironic much?

Lol you are a silly.
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LarVanian  +   1326d ago
There is no need to make fun of MrSancho simply because he referred to Kojima as 'Mr Kojima', is there Jack?
It doesn't really make a difference to me if Kojima doesn't know of my existence, as long as he still making awesome games for people like me, that is all that matters :).

Btw calling me names doesn't make you any more intelligent than me, Jack. It just clearly how much more of an ignoramus you are that gets easily aggravated over internet posts ;)
BeastlyRig  +   1326d ago
mw3 is more like mw2.
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waterboy  +   1326d ago
just like battlefield is just graphics the game is the same in every way to every previous battlefield
Hufandpuf  +   1326d ago
WRONG, BF 1942 was set in WW2, BF Vietnam was set in VIETNAM, BF2 WAS SET in MODERN DAY and had a commander mode that blended RTS type gameplay, and first person action and SQUADS. BF2142 was set in the FUTURE, BFBC introduced destruction, BFBC2 Improved destruction and gameplay physics, BF3 PERFECTED THE Battlefield FORMULA.

WHAT HAS COD DONE? Made an arcade shooter.
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Gamer_Z  +   1326d ago
@waterboy

What are you talking about i have been playing COD since 4 and there hasn't been any if at all any improvements to the game only add-ons like zombies, spec ops, killstreaks etc...
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F4sterTh4nFTL  +   1326d ago
More like COD4.2
.
orange-skittle  +   1325d ago
...and Uncharted 3 is more of the same when compared to Uncharted 2. So why do people hate Call of Duty? I dont see people calling Uncharted 3 v2.5 when it really is. So much biased opinions and children in these comment sections.
Takoulya  +   1325d ago
Uncharted actually creates technical breakthroughs and amazing Hollywood-style stunts without having to resort crappy gaming mechanics and no change in gameplay at all. Also, the single player is phenomenal and decently lengthy and replayable, unlike Call of Duty which only relies on its thoughtless (although mildly amusing) multiplayer.
Persistantthug  +   1325d ago
@orange-skittle..........Because Naughty Dog isn't trying to rip people off with stat tracking.
Also, Uncharted series isn't even close to being like Guitar Hero.

And like the guy right before me said, Uncharted pushes the boundaries of game tech.

You did ask.
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Hicken  +   1325d ago
Because Uncharted continues a story that is so obviously a story, and easy to follow. MW, on the other hand, loosely ties in a few characters in a world where the same things are going on.

Oh, but nobody cares about that, because they only play it for the multiplayer, anyway.
orange-skittle  +   1325d ago
Like I said...fanboyism. It's a matter of choice. Whether you play for story or multiplayer, its your choice. The sequels of both are the same iterations as the ones before it. MW doesn't look like MW3 just as Uncharted 3 doesn't look like Uncharted. Uncharted and Uncharted 2 are noticable differences, but 3 and 2 look the same. I dont play Uncharted for MP as I do for CoD....so it's a matter of choice. Like I said before, this site is made up of childish fanboys wanting to HATE on something they cant properly explain..hence the 3 disagrees.

@Persistentthug
No one mentioned Guitar Hero and for your information, that series has been since canceled. You're comparing a novelty game that relies on add-ons and DLC compared to adventure shooters. bad comparisons..try again
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mahfuz27  +   1326d ago
well if kojima says that, then I LOVE DOCUMENTARIES :)
FlashXIII  +   1326d ago
He seems to be showing quite a fair amount of interest in war fps games.. I wonder if he's planning on making one? I'd love to see what Kojima could come up with.
Mr Tretton  +   1326d ago
I believe he has mentioned having interest in making an FPS
Kee  +   1326d ago
Kojima is never wrong.
killerhog  +   1326d ago
Cod would be a B to Cish type Hollywood movie, with no name movie stars. it's just mindless/fancy explosions/gun fights. Besides only like 40% or less of the cod buyers play the single player.

Bf3 would be a blockbuster movie with top actors like in top military movies.
Fatal Blow  +   1326d ago
I think a while back he was thinking of making a fps game

Japanese developers tend to do more art in game then photo realistic that's what he said a while back to
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Chnswdchldrn  +   1326d ago
Cod is scripted scripted scripted out the ass, providing for a bit more over the top cinematic experience

Battlefield is far more dynamic, providing for a more realistic gameplay because the way you impact the things around you and such---however, this doesnt mean battlefield doesnt have its share of over the top cinematic experiences as well.
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Der_Kommandant  +   1326d ago
MW3 - Kids

Battlefield 3 - Adults
Pizza  +   1326d ago
I just about to say the same.
waterboy  +   1326d ago
is that so? most people i play on cod with or 20+ average, and black people actually play cod not nerd white people
FlashXIII  +   1326d ago
Racist much?
LukaX23  +   1326d ago
Wait, why does it matter which race plays what game? wtf?
silvacrest  +   1326d ago
where is your proof? can you see what race is playing what game through there gamer tag/PSN id??

wow....just wow

also, im black and play neither battlefield or modern warfare, killzone is a different story

is your mind blown yet?...
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Hufandpuf  +   1326d ago
SO, nerds play Battlefield and Minorities play COD? well I'm black and I'm smart, I don't play COD and I'm not a nerd nor white. Do you see how wrong you are yet?
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Hufandpuf  +   1326d ago
@waterboy
Did you just ask me if I was "hood"!? Do you know how you sound right now? Are you a 10 year old that just saw the movie Friday?
death2smoochie  +   1326d ago
You truly have set the standard for moron on this site. You have outdone yourself and that is saying something.

You should be proud of your ignorance and lack of reasonable thought and most likely education.

And of that retarded list you just posted, I happen to enjoy and participate in a few of those hobbies or activities...and I am black.

So once again...you have truly set yourself apart from the mass of people who suffer from full motion retardation.
You are king.

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Jeebus  +   1326d ago
Waterboy - I have a feeling you should have shut up 3 bubbles ago.
Jack-Dangerously  +   1326d ago
Wow. What a sad outlook you have. IMHO. Yeh, the white people are nerds and the black person spreading hate on the internets isn't? LOL VERY intelligent. *muah* Have a nice day.
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_Q_  +   1326d ago
And yet I hear the "n" word everytime I've ever played COD on live.
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orange-skittle  +   1325d ago
HAHAHAg
Waterboy, not only am I black, but there is no such thing as being hood. If you are referring to me coming from "the hood," then YES, when I was younger I grew up in a urban environment where we ran from the police because it was fun to be chased or we stretched guys waiting for the bus as a game to see who punched the hardest. I actually play both and the only reason most black people are present on CoD is because of popularity. Those same black guys you're speaking of play Madden and NBA2K, but before they started playing 2K...they played NBA Live. It took time for them to see which game was better and that's what you will eventually see when you play BF3. EA knows they will not get MW3 money, but they let the world see what they offer and eventually, you make the decision. Xbox did it playstation the same way 2K did it to EA, so they are all too familiar with this tactic.
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maniacmayhem  +   1326d ago
How does Der_Kommandant know B3 - Adults, it isn't even out yet.

I'm sure the same kids that will be on CoD will be on B3
_Q_  +   1326d ago
He obviously means who the games are geared toward. If you havent played both series enough you wouldnt quite know what he means. COD is accessible to anybody. Pick it up shoot,die,repeat. Battlefield is aimed at strategy and teamwork . Something younger folks don't always get down or give a damn about from the games i've played.. I'm 25 fyi

I wish more people did play more games like BF.
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HardCover  +   1325d ago
Well yeah DICE said themselves that the "twitch-kill '14 year olds'" will have a place.

And like I said: Their place is in my scope ;)
mcsm  +   1326d ago
who cares release mgs5 already.
HardCover  +   1325d ago
No screw that. Release ZOE 3. MGS fans have gotten enough treats as it is. I would know, I am one.
Drake_Seraphim  +   1326d ago
That's a compliment for Battlefield
gamingisnotacrime  +   1326d ago
and to each his own
i got BF 3 pre ordered and that is all i care about
sonicsidewinder  +   1326d ago
Hahaha. Hi5 Kojima. Gonna make a BF3 clan with him.
LightningSamus  +   1326d ago
@ATiElite

European devs are western devs, Battlefield 3 is made by Dice a swedish developer, GTA IV was made by Rockstar North a British developer located in Scotland. Were you just thinking USA and Canada deves were the western devs?
RyuCloudStrife  +   1326d ago
yup i love action :) i know kojima does also c u in MW3 ;)
GamersRulz  +   1326d ago
Cmon, Kojima
please dont bother yourself with this shit!!!
I don't want your next game to be a clone of those crappy shooters!!
Tripl3seis  +   1325d ago
I'm in love with battle field 3 getting it day 1 btw wen those the beta stars?
xtremegamerage  +   1325d ago
ChrisW

What the world didn't end.

ffs i'm still in my ww2 bunker.

BF3 all d way.
MARKUS_MAX1MUS  +   1325d ago
A more mature comparison, thanks kojima.

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