Battlefield 3 Jets To Only Be In Conquest
Will be VERY interesting to see how this is pulled off in the Open Beta in September. Very excited about it!
BETA will most likely only have 1 game mode.. But this is interesting news, and is completely understandable and makes total sense. Looks like im gonna be playing conquest a lot more often now!
i just hope its balanced its nearly impossible to take a heli down in conquest now
^This, AA guns & machine gun turrets are the only useful way to take down choppers but I always get blown up by the pilot straight away. Any skilled pilot can avoid pretty much all the AA guns and machine guns and wreak havoc so I can't imagine what they'd do with jets...
Well im glad i know someone else feels the same about helicopters in Bad company 2. Someone skilled enough with a helicopter in battlefield can almost be an automatic win in conquest mode.
Mobile AA is needed not stationary!
In conquest mode all you need to do to maintain air superiority is secure the outpost with the VADS AA gun on maps that have it. That thing brings down helicopters in less than 2 seconds. That's why you need some coordination between ground troops and CAS.
@Saryk I believe Mobile AA vehicles are already confirmed. Or at least they had it on a confirmed vehicle list on some website, not sure if it was completely accurate though. It would make sense to have it though.
@lil Titan I agree, it's tough taking those guys out, and there's never an engineer who knows what he's doing. I think that they need to make it so that more than 1 spec can attack the heli's and jets. They can give them more armor and HP, but they have to let regular bullets hurt them, like in BC2: Vietnam.
@CaptCalvin what we need in BF3 is some sort of communication between the support. and maybe more than just people in a squad because it sucks i have to keep taking my friends tags just because im with 3 already lol
jets are more air fighters than ground attackers unless they have total air superiority. They can limit helicopters which could make sense having them in conquest. Im afraid they will overpower helis or attack ground troops too much though
Well, conquest is the de facto Battlefield game type (other than Bad Company, which was gold rush), so I don't see the problem here. It'll probably be the most played game type in BF3.
Tdm? Why the heck would there be tdm in battlefield?
There is actually TDM in battlefield 3.
there is team death match in BF3
TDM is focused on soldier combat. Conquest is the main game mode for vehicles.
Looks like I will be playing mainly TDM then. I don't like vehicles.
will the jets be on console versions?
they better be
Yes and there'll be a larger airspace in the console version of BF3 to compensate for the smaller maps.
No, the airspace will be as large as it is on the PC version, but the actual area in which the ground troops can fight is much smaller.
As much as it pains me, not likely unless they bump the player count up
Actually one of the devs was questioned about it at E3, he said jets on consoles and pc
Well that's good news, hopefully that means they found a way to increase the player count too
no it just means the infantry area is restricted while aircraft gets more access.
Here's my problem with having jets on the console (or even 12v12 games on the PC): with only 12 players on your team, lets say for a given map a team has at least 2 planes (typical for BF games), an attack helicopter, and a transport helicopter for your team. You've then potentially got 2 fighter pilots, 2 chopper pilots, 1 attack chopper gunner, and 2 transport gunners. That means 7 of the 12 people on your team could be screwing around up in the air, leaving only 5 to do the grunt-work on the ground. The problem is aircraft are supposed to be a support role, not the main focus of the battle, but this potentially moves the majority of the combatants to the sky. We've had aircraft in console BF games with few problems up until now, but we've never had this MANY aircraft on the console BF games. BFBC2 has choppers, but no planes. BF1943 has planes, but obviously no choppers. So in BF3, unless they limit the number of choppers on any 12v12 maps that have jets, I'm kind of concerned. I've heard others voice this same concern as well.
I doubt that many vehicles will be available when 12v12. 1 Jet, 2 heli (1 attack, 1 blackhawk) and an assortment of tanks, hummers, and atvs.
This is bad news to me as I'm not interested in multiplayer. Still gonna be a great game I guess. Just hope they are not hiding more bad news :)
Lol, they'll still be in the SP. This is saying that they'll only be in one Multiplayer mode.
Lol what a stupid comment. Everything that's in multiplayer will be in single player! XD
No need to be rude. lol
But will the jets be flyable by the player in single player? I doubt BF3 will have huge Arma2 size levels in single player, and even in that game they had to slow the jets down a lot.
Yes, they will be controlled by the player, the SP levels where you fly a jet will have to be huge. They will probably not allow you to get out on foot though until you are supposed to. No bailing out of your jet when the mission is to take out other jets. Unless you can get to some AA vehicles....
The BF series is all about multiplayer. Single player mode is just icing on the cake. BF1942, BF2142, BF2, and BF1943 didn't even offer single player campaigns.
Well, they did but it was kinda like Brink. MP modes with bots.
As exciting as jets and planes are I already know I will be more of a spotter! I love to blow up tanks or heal teammates! I love being the backbone of the fight & let the others get the most kills no problem for me! I'll get the most important kills like blowing up tanks, choppers & maybe jets! Team effort ftw!! Edit: But sometimes I just feel like killing it's in my gamer blood I guess.
I just wanna kill the engine in a jeep with a 50cal sniper rifle without blowing it up.
u can do that??? blowing up tires would be epic too o.o
They said you can "immobilize vehicles without blowing them up" but i'm guessing at this point.
I saw in the tank gameplay where a tank gets smoked and the crew just crawled out. I thought it looked scripted, but maybe it's hinting at the immobilize thing?
There's something i don't understand MOH was supposed to bring a beta key. Open meaning to everyone? Also I agree with them only being on conquest.
You just need the MOH disc. expect the Beta to be like the Gears of war 3 Bulletstorm beta where you start the beta from the the main menu of MOH.
Aw, I was hoping it to be on rush mode. Conquest on consoles isn't as fast paced as rush. If only I had the money to afford a gaming rig.
... then you'd have to deal with suicidal jet pilots flying around with C4 strapped to 'em.
Did everyone forget about the little bird or sumthin? Those things are way faster and annoying than the normal choppers
Good, this will minimize vehicle hoarding or whatever you want to call it, IE ten people trying to kill each other in order to fly a jet that they'll crash within ten seconds of getting airborne.
Oh well no jets for me... I only played rush in BFBC2, conquest is pretty boring compared to rush.
Conquest *IS* Battlefield. It's the original default mode. Rush is a nice change of pace, but for BF purists, Conquest is all that matters. Rush feels too predictable. Conquest provides a much more dynamic flow of battle.
I know conquest was the original Battlefield gamemode, it's just my opinion that rush is better. I am quite disappointed that it doesn't have jets.
I can't help but feel that jets would make little sense in a rush game and screw up the balance.
Jets only on Conquest mode is pretty standard. Conquest mode is what separates BF from all other games anyway. It's the super Huge maps and the actual tactics and feel of full scale war. Rush and TDM and other modes were tossed in as a way to provide an all around experience. Infintry Battles Light Armour Battles Full Scale War = Conquest Mode Come on ppl use your brains. Your not gonna have a jets flying a map designed for 8 vs 8. Where's the jet gonna take off and land? In the Burger Town Drive thru! Conquest is the huge maps that offer the air space for what makes Battlefield so great.
Conquest must have HUGE maps!
This is good news...Especially for that one guy that never gets in a Jet before other players.
Well, I am officially going to have to play some conquest. Barely have played it on BC2. Cool, some extra incentive to play all of the game. *silver lining*
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